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revefsreleets
10-22-2007, 10:45 AM
I haven't seen anything posted about this anywhere, and it disturbs me deeply. I think I have a pretty good understanding of the game, but there were at least two plays by Hampton that defy logic. Can someone help me understand?

On two seperate occasions, I saw Casey Hampton line-up over center, then, as the ball was snapped, simply stand up and not move at all. The first time I saw this, I thought perhaps this was some kind of zone-blitz play where he occupies the short middle zone, but the rest of the play developing around him didn't seem to support that. Inexpicably, he did the same thing again a few plays later, and it was glaringly obvious because Cutler scrambled right past him and just made him look silly.

Does anyone have any kind of reasonable explanation as to why the NT in a 3-4 would not only NOT be occupying blockers, but just stand up in the middle of the field and do nothing?

Lord Stiller
10-22-2007, 10:52 AM
Im not sure what you are talking about.

how about on the goaline D. Did you notice CAsey busting through the line every time. That penetration stuffed all of their runs

Hampton played a good game

Godfather
10-22-2007, 10:53 AM
Possibly playing a read and react role similar to what MLBs do sometimes? That could be the idea--even if he didn't execute well on the Cutler play.

revefsreleets
10-22-2007, 10:55 AM
I can't believe I'm the only one who saw this. There were two plays where he stood up and just stood there in the middle of the field. I know everyone watching the game with me saw it, and none of us had any idea what was going on.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-22-2007, 10:57 AM
I had a bigger problem with Marvel Smith staring at the fumble like an alien had just crapped on the field..instead of falling on it.

revefsreleets
10-22-2007, 10:59 AM
And I'm not necessarily criticizing Hampton. I'm just trying to figure this out.

moedap
10-22-2007, 11:06 AM
Hampton was playing QB spy on that Cutler scramble. He was suppose to be shadowing Cutler but due to him being short and the O line being stood up Hampton couldnt see where Cutler was before it was too late Cutler was 6 yards to the right of Casey and proceeded to run up the field. Casey is a 300 LB nosetackle that just came off of the DL with hamstring problems. He was going to lose that footrace.

revefsreleets
10-22-2007, 11:10 AM
I'll buy that, but I have to question the personel move here. Hopefully LeBeau learns from the mistake and doesn't repeat it. There are 3 guys on the defense who's job is occupy multiple blockers, and it seems like taking one of them almost completely out of the play is very counterproductive, especially against zone blocking. And if this was Kent Graham he was spying the match-up would be better, but Cutler can move a little.

moedap
10-22-2007, 11:18 AM
I'll buy that, but I have to question the personel move here. Hopefully LeBeau learns from the mistake and doesn't repeat it. There are 3 guys on the defense who's job is occupy multiple blockers, and it seems like taking one of them almost completely out of the play is very counterproductive, especially against zone blocking. And if this was Kent Graham he was spying the match-up would be better, but Cutler can move a little.

If I am not mistaken that was a 3rd and long play. And the LB's had all dropped back into coverage to stop Denver from gauging the middle of the field. I think it was a good play call just a blown assignment on Hamptons part.

nicesteel4life
10-22-2007, 12:44 PM
I had a bigger problem with Marvel Smith staring at the fumble like an alien had just crapped on the field..instead of falling on it.

Well actually on that play if you would of looked at the replay, he was cut blocked from behind and very lucky he wasent hurt. Sorta hard to move when a guy just hit you in the back of your shins.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-22-2007, 01:00 PM
Well actually on that play if you would of looked at the replay, he was cut blocked from behind and very lucky he wasent hurt. Sorta hard to move when a guy just hit you in the back of your shins.

I actually taped the game and on the replay you can see him looking at the ball...the light bulb comes on...and just as he starts to react as he is hit from behind.

Dont get me wrong..I think that he is a very good lineman...but on that play he looked like a sloth.

HometownGal
10-22-2007, 01:15 PM
Hampton was playing QB spy on that Cutler scramble. He was suppose to be shadowing Cutler but due to him being short and the O line being stood up Hampton couldnt see where Cutler was before it was too late Cutler was 6 yards to the right of Casey and proceeded to run up the field. Casey is a 300 LB nosetackle that just came off of the DL with hamstring problems. He was going to lose that footrace.

You hit the nail right on the head moe. I think Lebeau must have overlooked Cutler's mobility somewhat and didn't game-plan accordingly until it was too late.

Haiku_Dirtt
10-22-2007, 02:17 PM
I can't believe I'm the only one who saw this. There were two plays where he stood up and just stood there in the middle of the field. I know everyone watching the game with me saw it, and none of us had any idea what was going on.

I did see the play but I missed part of and was distracted all game by a Bobcat. I'll leave my assumptions until after I hopefully get to watch the game again. I'm guessing NFL Network will replay this game.

Indy_Steelers
10-22-2007, 03:25 PM
I had a bigger problem with Marvel Smith staring at the fumble like an alien had just crapped on the field..instead of falling on it.

:sofunny::sofunny:

jjpro11
10-22-2007, 03:28 PM
You hit the nail right on the head moe. I think Lebeau must have overlooked Cutler's mobility somewhat and didn't game-plan accordingly until it was too late.

well i would have too since cutler's longest run as a pro was only 11 yards, before that stupid 30 yard run he did last night.

moedap
10-22-2007, 03:30 PM
well i would have too since cutler's longest run as a pro was only 11 yards, before that stupid 30 yard run he did last night.

Same here. I think Shanahan was expecting the Steelers to expect Cutler to stay in the pocket so he had him rolling out and throwing on the run.

klick81
10-22-2007, 04:31 PM
I actually taped the game and on the replay you can see him looking at the ball...the light bulb comes on...and just as he starts to react as he is hit from behind.

Dont get me wrong..I think that he is a very good lineman...but on that play he looked like a sloth.

Yep, I couldn't stop yelling when I saw his reaction time.

steelpride12
10-22-2007, 04:55 PM
I didn't really notice, but im sure it was not anything terrible he is a great NT and have no worry in him playing poorly!

MJ5150
10-22-2007, 07:07 PM
Offensive coordinators on NFL teams can not always figure out Coach LeBeau's schemes. I really, really doubt any of us can.

:smile:

-Mike

revefsreleets
10-22-2007, 07:21 PM
Really, this is something stranger then strange. I wish I had a youtube thing to post or something. It's hard to explain without the video, and it may have happened more than twice. The first time it looked like he dropped into coverage, which makes sense if it was zone blitz thing, although that's a little old school. The second time is the inexplicable one. I swear dude just got up out of his stance and stood there. The OL backed up into pass protection forming a pocket, which is what kind of isolated the move, since Hampton was pretty much standing alone in the middle of the field 5 yards from the nearest blocker, and I mean just standing there.

ytsan2q
10-22-2007, 10:32 PM
I saw that. How do you have the slowest man on the field spying the quarterback?

Galax Steeler
10-23-2007, 04:05 AM
I think hampton was doing what he was supposed to be doing I just think we need to take this week and patch up a few holes that we have.

moedap
10-23-2007, 04:58 PM
I saw that. How do you have the slowest man on the field spying the quarterback?

Hampton is capable of spying a slow quarterback. I just think he lost sight of Cutler.

revefsreleets
10-24-2007, 08:37 AM
I'm not so sure about that. He was standing out in the middle of the field (there were no Olineman within 5 yards of him), and Cutler basically just ran right past him for 30 yards. At least on this particular play where the WR's cleard out the entire middle of the field, Hampton was very exposed. I'm not questioning his ability to play NT, but when slow QB's pick up 30 yards by smoking the guy who's sole assignment was to prevent that very thing from happening, this was a bad match-up.

I also saw where Tomlin commented on the play and said "We weren't where we were supposed to be"

Either way, I don't expect to see Hampton in that role again.

Preacher
10-24-2007, 02:22 PM
I saw that. How do you have the slowest man on the field spying the quarterback?

I wonder... does a QB spy only haveresponsibility for a certain part of the field? By that I mean,

The LB or Ends will come around on contain and try to collapse the pocket. The inside blockers will push up, creating a seam for the QB to run out of if he chooses... the spy covers the seam.

My question is, did the seam create where it should have, or did one of the rushers get moved out of place creating a second seam and thus blowing up the play?

revefsreleets
10-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Only if the seam he was supposed to cover was 15 yards deep and 63 yards wide.

Something went wrong with that play. We'll probably never know anymore than Tomlin's "We weren't where we were supposed to be".