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steelkills
10-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Ben did a great job to pull it together. Tied the game after beong down on the road under enormous pressure. threw a couple pics that were questionably his fault and a fuble that wasnt. I remeber a couple a weeks ago a guy by the name of ROMO threw 5 picks in a game and guess what, the Cowboys STILL ONE!!! No boys and girls this one was clearlt on the D, they showed absolutly nothing all game, no pass rush or pass coverage. Once again we look like the team of the days with chard scott and toast washinton.

Davison_K
10-23-2007, 11:26 AM
The Steelers weren't playing the Buffalo Bills. The Broncos are actually a decent team. The Bills have 2 wins yes, but the Broncos didn't lose to teams that we won't lose too if we continue to play the way we did. Our defense was poor yes, but turnovers and penalties kill a team. Especially if they are scoring points off of the turnovers, and I don't know if you were watching, ut they were. It was an awful game all around.

SteelerFanInCA
10-23-2007, 11:35 AM
If the D cuts down half those points we win.

delhess
10-23-2007, 11:43 AM
yes the offense made some mistakes , but i agree, it was the defense who dropped the ball

TackleMeBen
10-23-2007, 11:46 AM
the defense gave up too many big plays which caused the offense to have to play from behind.

RoethlisBURGHer
10-23-2007, 11:53 AM
Two interceptions, a fumble, and penalties are why we lost this game. If we turn it over one less time and score on that drive, then the game goes at least into OT.

Offensive penalties killed us, put is in third and longs that killed drives.

Yeah, the defense didn't play it's best football. But it played, IMHO, the most talented team that we've played so far.

You can't give a team like Denver free chances a la turnovers.

You can turn it over 5 times against the sorry ass Buffalo Bills, but not the Denver Broncos.

steelkills
10-23-2007, 12:09 PM
Bottom line is, if the so-called best D in the league can make one stop we win, Ben got us where we needed to be at the end and the D did not deliver, and only one pick was his fault, and what makes the 2 win broncos any better than the bills, i dont see it sry.

HometownGal
10-23-2007, 01:20 PM
I don't necessarily put the blame for the Steelers loss solely on the D's shoulders. The entire team, as well as the coaching staff, shares in the defeat, imho.

Yes- the D didn't play up to the standard of the first 4 games this season, but the nail in our coffin came shy of the end of the first half when Mahan screwed up the snap to Ben and the fumble resulted in a Broncs' TD. From that point on, the D only gave up 1 more TD until the game winning FG.

Preacher
10-23-2007, 01:28 PM
I don't necessarily put the blame for the Steelers loss solely on the D's shoulders. The entire team, as well as the coaching staff, shares in the defeat, imho.

Yes- the D didn't play up to the standard of the first 4 games this season, but the nail in our coffin came shy of the end of the first half when Mahan screwed up the snap to Ben and the fumble resulted in a Broncs' TD. From that point on, the D only gave up 1 more TD.

I agree with you HTG...but I also think that if this were on a scale... the scale would tilt to the defense in this game.

However, that DOES bring up another point.

The difference between us and the best teams right now, is that when the offense or defense is lacking in a game, the other side is able to pick them up. Now, we were almost able to do that this game... but really. If we were as good as we all thought, wouldn't we have been able to put the ball in the endzone a couple more times?

Virginia Steeler
10-23-2007, 01:52 PM
O -Line didn't help , not sure I'd put this one all on the D....The D gave up 24 points, Pittsburgh's O scored 28 and gave up 7.

Virginia Steeler
10-23-2007, 01:54 PM
I don't necessarily put the blame for the Steelers loss solely on the D's shoulders. The entire team, as well as the coaching staff, shares in the defeat, imho.

Yes- the D didn't play up to the standard of the first 4 games this season, but the nail in our coffin came shy of the end of the first half when Mahan screwed up the snap to Ben and the fumble resulted in a Broncs' TD. From that point on, the D only gave up 1 more TD until the game winning FG.

The fumble was not caused by the bad snap...the ball got knocked out of Ben's hands....I put the blame on the O Line for poor blocking and Ben for not hanging on to the ball.

VolatileMan
10-23-2007, 02:08 PM
Honestly there is enough blame to go around between the defensive play and the offensive turnovers, but what really sticks in my craw is that last TD drive by Denver. We had them at 3rd and long three times and they got a first down each friggin time!!

Just one stop on one of those 3rd and longs and we win the game!

Just my $.02
VolatileMan

TapOut64
10-23-2007, 02:40 PM
Their secondary does make average QB's look good.

Davison_K
10-23-2007, 03:07 PM
Bottom line is, if the so-called best D in the league can make one stop we win, Ben got us where we needed to be at the end and the D did not deliver, and only one pick was his fault, and what makes the 2 win broncos any better than the bills, i dont see it sry.

The defense didn't have a chance to make a stop on that fumble, had we driven down the field and scored it would have been the difference. Or even punted. Christ, he ran 3/4 the f***ing field.

SteelDogFan
10-23-2007, 09:00 PM
I have to agree with this one also. I f your offense in the NFL puts up 28 points you should win the game. To me Dick was not aggressive enough in his blitzes. Most of the night we rushed only five maybe six. Cutler had to much time to through the ball.

We shut down their run and they did not have Walker. He should of had the linebackers pin their ears back go rush. That was the only problem i saw. lack of a pass rush. The Steelers need to draft a pass rushing defensive end and not just a whole stuffer. When they are in the cover-two Harrison should go to the bench and and there should be four D-linemen on the field.

Haiku_Dirtt
10-24-2007, 12:34 AM
If the D cuts down half those points we win.

Well. Technically only four points.

Atlanta Dan
10-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Gene Collier of the P-G agrees in today's column:

"It was several individuals, but we don't stand as individuals, we stand as a team," Tomlin said at the weekly media mingle. "As a team, we fell short, assignment-wise. We'll make corrections and move on."

Wonder which individuals?

One in particular, coming late in the third quarter on Denver's fourth touchdown drive, sent three receivers to the left of the formation, somehow confronting only one Pittsburgh defender. Technically, Troy Polamalu was lined up on that side as well, but in more of a blitzing attitude, seeming to change his mind at the snap and chase one-to-three wideouts toward the boundary.

Too late.

Jay Cutler zipped a flat pass to Brandon Marshall, who pedaled 22-yards through the sideline traffic all the way to the 1, where safety Ryan Clark managed to keep him out of the end zone...

"Troy was not supposed to blitz on that play," Tomlin corrected. "We got misaligned and they out-leveraged us and got a significant gain. A lot of times when you give up plays defensively, don't get me wrong, you want to give credit to your opponent for executing, but their success is usually your failure, and there were instances in this football game where we were not where we were supposed to be. That is just the reality of it.

Sounds like Troy may have been one of the suspects

Collier seems to be ready to push the panic button if teh Steelers lose again this Sunday

A week from Monday, this season will be half over. If some of these defensive issues aren't resolved, maybe more than half.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07297/827911-150.stm

Steeldude
10-24-2007, 10:15 AM
Ben did a great job to pull it together. Tied the game after beong down on the road under enormous pressure. threw a couple pics that were questionably his fault and a fuble that wasnt. I remeber a couple a weeks ago a guy by the name of ROMO threw 5 picks in a game and guess what, the Cowboys STILL ONE!!! No boys and girls this one was clearlt on the D, they showed absolutly nothing all game, no pass rush or pass coverage. Once again we look like the team of the days with chard scott and toast washinton.

steelkill, you must have missed the steelers' O-line in action. this was clearly lost on both sides of the ball, BR included.

Steeldude
10-24-2007, 10:17 AM
Their secondary does make average QB's look good.

i would blame lebeau's odd schemes. like his 2-3-6 formation for example.

if the steelers fail to generate a pass rush then the secondary is going to struggle.

steelkills
10-24-2007, 02:42 PM
steelkill, you must have missed the steelers' O-line in action. this was clearly lost on both sides of the ball, BR included.

No I didnt miss the O-line, It was putrid. Reguardless, even with the poor start,and SHITE O line play, ben still put us in the positon on the road under geat pressure to go into OT, but the D blew it, they sucked at everything but stoppin the run all night.

Dynasty
10-24-2007, 04:37 PM
Im not going to put it on the defense... they didnt play well, but they let up less points than the offense scored... i think the real problem is that our offensive line sucks. horribly.

Lord Stiller
10-24-2007, 08:58 PM
Im not going to put it on the defense... they didnt play well, but they let up less points than the offense scored... i think the real problem is that our offensive line sucks. horribly.

Check your math

ytsan2q
10-24-2007, 11:24 PM
The offense gave up one of those touchdowns. Also, turnovers put the defense on the field for extra snaps and forced them to play on a shorter field at times . I can't see how you can put it all on the D.

BurghZ0n3
10-25-2007, 11:34 AM
....RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSEEEE, STEELERS......RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSE EEEE!!!!!!......

rbryan
10-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Its Thursday so the inital pain of losing to the Broncs is starting to ease. The defense is catching grief and deservedly so, but I still put a lot of it on the offensive game plan. We never gave the running game a chance. When playing at that altitude the time of possession is even more crucial than normal. We needed to run the damn ball and keep the defense off the field. It was by far the worst game we played all year on D, but we would have still won (ugly) with one less turnover.

It's a fine line. Had we managed to pull out an ugly win everyone would still be talking about how we are right up there with NE, Indy.