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Atlanta Dan
11-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Peter King has changed his tune on Ben::

When I watched Roethlisberger last year, I thought, "Flawed quarterback.'' When I watched Roethlisberger on Sunday, I thought, "Franchise quarterback.''

I didn't like his lackadaisical decision-making last year, or his declining accuracy, or what I'd heard his teammates say about his work ethic. Maybe it was right, and maybe it wasn't. But Roethlisberger wasn't the most popular guy in his own locker room last year, and he needed a change. He got it. ...

I thought Roethlisberger was frosty this summer when I questioned him about his poor play last year, but he made no excuses, saying only he was sure he'd play better this year because, "Naysayers,'' he said. "I thrive on them. If it's my fault, I'll take the responsibility, and I didn't play well last year. But I'm devoting more time than anyone knows to getting back to being a great player.''

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/11/11/week10/index.html

Maybe Ben was a little frosty after he read King's QB rankings last summer:smile:

Ben Roethlisberger 17th? What gives? From Year 1 to Year 2 of his career, his completion percentage dropped 3.7 points; from year two to three it fell 3.0 points. His TD-to-interception ratio, plus-eight in 2005, dropped to minus-five last season. He is profoundly inconsistent. I say he's a C-plus player until I see six or eight straight weeks of the same guy. (King ranked Ben behind, among others, the sainted Carson Palmer (#4), Vince Young (#7), Jay Cutler (#10), and Chad "Rag Arm" Pennington (#14))

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/06/17/qbs/index.html

Let's hope part of Ben and this team maturing includes not getting caught up in all the kind words - yesterday's first half was a repeat of the team not being mentally ready for the Denver game and would have been a loss if that performance would have been on the road.

GeneralRobinson
11-12-2007, 09:53 AM
Young players go through rough patches where the league adjusts to them. Seeing how Ben has improved his game shows that he has made similar adjustments. The coaches put a lot of faith in Ben to take more ownership of the offense, and he has repaid their trust with interest.

steel striker
11-12-2007, 10:04 AM
I think Mike golic on Mike & Mike show today said that Ben last year really did not have a chance to prepare for the 06 season. Now take a look this year he is having a great year and, like I've said many times is a winner. Now let's just keep it going.

Michael Keller
11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Why does Peter KIng's name keep coming up.. I could care less. This guy is the STUPIDEST sportswriter . analyst or whatever he claims to be. He now think Ben is a good QB. He probably NOW thinks Mt. Everest is a tall mountain. I am not even sure why I am writing about this clown.

Ok here is one. Tell me who you know (some pretender that is in the profession) that is paid to know but in fact knows less about football than Peter King. King should be writing for People Magazine.

I like Ben even more if he treated King in a Frosty way. Ben is a good judge of characetr or lack of if he did treat this A hole In a frosty manner.

MIchael Keller

Atlanta Dan
11-12-2007, 10:58 AM
Why does Peter KIng's name keep coming up.. I could care less. This guy is the STUPIDEST sportswriter . analyst or whatever he claims to be. He now think Ben is a good QB. He probably NOW thinks Mt. Everest is a tall mountain. I am not even sure why I am writing about this clown.

Ok here is one. Tell me who you know (some pretender that is in the profession) that is paid to know but in fact knows less about football than Peter King. King should be writing for People Magazine.

I like Ben even more if he treated King in a Frosty way. Ben is a good judge of characetr or lack of if he did treat this A hole In a frosty manner.

MIchael Keller

I could go on but here is a starter set

Tony Kornheiser
Chris Berman
Skip Bayless

Michael Keller
11-12-2007, 11:22 AM
Atlanta Dan:

You present some good choices but my problem with Peter King and Korny they both think they know what they are talkin about.

Berman 's got his own style and i never felt like he acted as an authority. he can be entertaining. Bayless fortunately I do not see enough of him. / I think he is weak.

Thanks for the response.

Rhee Rhee
11-12-2007, 01:13 PM
peter king is a D-head jay cutler started what 6 games last year? and chad pennington mite as wellbe throwing with his left arm god look at carson what has he done this year? who's second in the nfl in passing TDs surely not carson palmer....

OneForTheToe
11-12-2007, 01:45 PM
IMO, Kornheiser, and to a lesser extent King, do acknowledge frequently that they are not experts on football. Of course, you could argue that this is their out - state from time-to-time that you are not an expert an then proceed to act like one. Still, if there is one person on that list who is full of himself it is Skip Bayless.

Lord Stiller
11-12-2007, 02:00 PM
I could go on but here is a starter set

Tony Kornheiser
Chris Berman
Skip Bayless

Skip Bayless is the worst so-called expert on TV

TackleMeBen
11-12-2007, 02:14 PM
Skip Bayless is the worst so-called expert on TV

:iagree: bayless is awful. and if ben wanted to be frosty to this dude then he has all right to be. he probably knew that king was an idiot..lol

Crushzilla
11-12-2007, 02:21 PM
Skip Bayless is the worst so-called expert on TV

Or... a genius? Those Cold Pizza segments were a lot better when it was Woody Paige and Bayless. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think it was just good television to watch two middle-aged men with no athletic prowess struggle through life every morning...

I have to agree with Keller's stance on Berman. I don't feel like Berman puts himself out there so much as an "analyst." Usually you just see Berman spew out some silly stats or something and base his justifications on that. I think if you asked him, if he thought he was a great analyst, he would say no. Also if we are putting Berman out there, we have to put Stu "Keep That Juggs Machine Away From Me" Scott, as well.

alittlejazzbird
11-12-2007, 02:46 PM
Of all the so-called print media "experts," other than Mark Madden, who I don't consider to be an expert in anything except possibly overeating, the one guy who irritates me more than anyone is that whiner Bill Williamson (speaking of overeating...) in Denver. And once again, he weighs in on Ben in exactly the way I'd expect him to - grudging respect plus one little dig ("Roethlisberger doesn't fit..."), just so we know that he'll never forgive the Steelers for beating Seattle in XL:

From the "Going Overtime" column on MSNBC
Should Ben Roethlisberger be considered an MVP candidate?

No, this is Tom Brady’s baby.

If Brady inexplicably doesn't win, perhaps his New England teammate Randy Moss or Dallas’ Tony Romo would win. Roethlisberger doesn’t fit in that group. He’s a Pro Bowl quarterback and is a player to watch during the next several years.

What Roethlisberger has proven is that his disastrous 2006 season was simply a product of his health issues. Big Ben isn't the MVP — though it's tough to ignore his 20 touchdown passes and a passer rating that's second best in the league — but he’s the real deal, which is far more important to the Steelers right now.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21741957/

onthebus36
11-12-2007, 03:14 PM
Peter King is the same guy who rated Brett Favre the tenth best and Ben the 11th best QB at the beginning of the year.

And remember the article where he said he need to see something, Ben was inconsistent, blah, blah, blah.

When these guys can't predict games better than 60%, I'm not sure how anyone considers them experts.