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Rush58
11-19-2007, 10:31 AM
sure, the o-line is not that great and we run the ball way too much on 1st and 2nd down; however, this team is not that talented. I see us as a 10-6 or maybe 11-5 ball club but nothing special this season. Does anyone know if there's going to be any big time receivers in FA? Roy Williams, Andre Johnson? I know the Rooney(s) don't normally sign players from other teams, but I think this is time to consider the option.

moedap
11-19-2007, 10:34 AM
There are some good tall WR's coming out that will be around in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

Rush58
11-19-2007, 10:37 AM
There are some good tall WR's coming out that will be around in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

please, no more projects that we cut after preseason. we need someone who is currently playing in the league right now that demands a double team. No team we play is scared of our wide receivers, thus they boldly play 8 in a box against our run.

X-Terminator
11-19-2007, 10:44 AM
The Steelers are NOT going to go out and blow big money on a FA WR, so please put that thought out of your head. Did you seem to forget that we have someone named Ben Roethlisberger that we need to re-sign, and that he is going to command big money? They will also (hopefully) spend some money to revamp the OL. On top of that, in a couple of years we will need to start thinking about re-signing Heath Miller and Santonio Holmes to extensions. Putting a lot of money into a FA WR isn't going to help that process.

ShutDown24
11-19-2007, 10:52 AM
Holmes is becoming top wide out in this league fast and Ward may be a tad overratted but he gets the job done on the other side. Jeez, this team falls into one trap game and people think it's the end of the world... Losing to the Jets doesn't suddenly make our need for a big wide out grow. Holmes was out a good portion of the game last night, maybe that is what you were missing.

Rush58
11-19-2007, 11:08 AM
Holmes is becoming top wide out in this league fast and Ward may be a tad overratted but he gets the job done on the other side. Jeez, this team falls into one trap game and people think it's the end of the world... Losing to the Jets doesn't suddenly make our need for a big wide out grow. Holmes was out a good portion of the game last night, maybe that is what you were missing.

I don't believe it was a trap game. We are not that good bottomline. Our philosophy of being a run team 1st is killing us against bad teams. I watched the game over this morning and I noticed how productive we were at passing the ball on 1st down. But once we got into the Jet territory, we went right back into run, run, and then pass. This resulted into multiple 3rd and longs, sacks, and fg(s). No time during the game did we consistenlty threw on 1st down. Once we picked up big yardage it was back to run, run, and then pass.

CantStop85
11-19-2007, 11:59 AM
sure, the o-line is not that great and we run the ball way too much on 1st and 2nd down; however, this team is not that talented. I see us as a 10-6 or maybe 11-5 ball club but nothing special this season. Does anyone know if there's going to be any big time receivers in FA? Roy Williams, Andre Johnson? I know the Rooney(s) don't normally sign players from other teams, but I think this is time to consider the option.
Here's a list of most of the 2008 free agent wide receivers. Not a whole lot there outside of Bernard Berrian...of course there's always Randy Moss if the Pats don't resign him. :flap:

Bernard Berrian, UFA, Chicago Bears
Patrick Crayton, UFA, Dallas Cowboys
Bryant Johnson, UFA, Arizona Cardinals
Drew Carter, UFA, Carolina Panthers
Antonio Chatman UFA Cincinnati Bengals
Keary Colbert UFA Carolina Panthers
Terrance Copper UFA New Orleans Saints
Devery Henderson UFA New Orleans Saints
Andre' Davis UFA Houston Texans
Malcom Floyd RFA San Diego Chargers
Doug Gabriel UFA Oakland Raiders
Justin Gage UFA Tennessee Titans
D.J. Hackett UFA Seattle Seahawks
Az-Zahir Hakim UFA Miami Dolphins
Taylor Jacobs UFA Washington Redskins
Jerome Mathis RFA Houston Texans
Samie Parker UFA Kansas City Chiefs
David Patten UFA New Orleans Saints
Marcus Robinson UFA Detroit Lions
Brandon Stokley UFA Denver Broncos

Counselor
11-19-2007, 12:05 PM
I don't believe it was a trap game. We are not that good bottomline. Our philosophy of being a run team 1st is killing us against bad teams. I watched the game over this morning and I noticed how productive we were at passing the ball on 1st down. But once we got into the Jet territory, we went right back into run, run, and then pass. This resulted into multiple 3rd and longs, sacks, and fg(s). No time during the game did we consistenlty threw on 1st down. Once we picked up big yardage it was back to run, run, and then pass.

Anyone consider that the Jets are better than 1-8? They've lost many close games, they have an intelligent coach (from the Belicheat school---not suggest there was actually any cheating). They had a great and "gutsy" game plan. They were a playoff team last year. Record is not always indicative of talent. When we were 2-6 last year, were we really a 2-6 team, then???

Also, I find ironic your comment that being a "run first" team is killing us. We were playing the worst rushing defense in the league ---and the last time we were playing the worst rushing defense team (Denver) the coaches got bombed by fans and media for passing too much. Can't please all the people all the time, I guess.

RoethlisBURGHer
11-19-2007, 12:13 PM
Santonio Holmes is quickly becoming a top wide reciever in this league. Heath Miller leads all TE's in TD catches. Ben Roethlisberger is Top 5 in TD passes, and just behind Brady in QB rating. Willie Parker is the leading rusher in the AFC.

Don't tell me that this team isn't very good. Hell, we may end up beating the Patriots. But if we lose to them, we will end up a 12-4 team and AFC North Champs. We can still end up with the #2 seed. Indy barley beat a mediocre Cheifs team, they can easily drop 2 more games. I think they still play the Titans and Jags, those are both losable games for the depleted Colts.

BlastFurnace
11-19-2007, 12:27 PM
We can win with what we have at WR.

What we need is help all over the OL. Our 1st two picks better be offensive lineman this next offseason and there better be some FA's come in for help...and I'm not talking about the Sean Mahan's of the world.

We also need someone who can run the ball effectively between the tackles. This is not a slam against Willie Parker. I like Willie, but I would like to have a RB that gets us 4...3...5....8...15...3...2....9 yards a pop. Willie is too much boom or bust and I think all of this work is completely wearing him down.

Our WR's are good enough. Let's get some more help elsewhere.

Haiku_Dirtt
11-19-2007, 12:28 PM
Holmes is becoming top wide out in this league fast and Ward may be a tad overratted but he gets the job done on the other side. Jeez, this team falls into one trap game and people think it's the end of the world... Losing to the Jets doesn't suddenly make our need for a big wide out grow. Holmes was out a good portion of the game last night, maybe that is what you were missing.

Completely agree. Good F---ING GRIEF. Whoever thinks adding a "beast" :banging:- whatever the F that means- catching the ball is the answer should just play fantasy football. You might want to rethink the financial repercussions of adding marginal production at this position.

Ward to me is underrated. I would speculate that Holmes is who he is right now because Hines has set the standard which means you freaking block and spend time off the field learning.

And isn't 6'5" 256lb not small. That would be Miller.

slippy
11-19-2007, 12:49 PM
miller is our beast. i think he's STILL under used.

we need O line help. doesn't anyone remember 2004 and previous when our line was able to take over a game?

Dodt
11-19-2007, 01:03 PM
the good players are built into the system not brought in.

RoethlisBURGHer
11-19-2007, 01:18 PM
the good players are built into the system not brought in.

AMEN!

We don't make splashy FA signings, the last time we made any kind of splash in the FA market was Duce Staley.

Rush58
11-19-2007, 01:32 PM
miller is our beast.

no wonder we're 7-3, lol

bu seriously, who are teams game planning to stop in the Steelers receiving core? Who is that guy that occupy that safety at all times? The guy who can easily give us a 150 yards receiving, 10 out of 16 games? The answer is no one. Santonio Holmes can be pretty good down the line, but there is no one Ben can throw to who can make the game easier for him. Hine Ward is on the downside of his career, and is no threat to scare opposing defense to gameplan against.