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Big D
11-28-2007, 02:48 PM
in light of the sean taylor situation and other nfl shootings, I really think the steelers should add security. I think professional athletes are quickly becoming targets.

jjpro11
11-28-2007, 02:56 PM
well we did have porter get shot a couple years ago. that sucked.. but theres really nothing else you can do other than have a gun by your bed and not go to places with drunks high in testosterone such as clubs. but that will never end, so theres not much else you can do.

TackleMeBen
11-28-2007, 03:00 PM
how do you propose they add security??? unless they are at the stadium, its up to the individual athlete to protect themselves. you cant blame them for trying to live a some what normal life. that is why alot of athletes try to keep their private life private, b/c that is about the only thing they have. i mean seriously, as fans do we really need to know who they are sleeping with and that sort of thing? but maybe some should keep better company.

Big D
11-28-2007, 03:24 PM
how do you propose they add security??? unless they are at the stadium, its up to the individual athlete to protect themselves. you cant blame them for trying to live a some what normal life. that is why alot of athletes try to keep their private life private, b/c that is about the only thing they have. i mean seriously, as fans do we really need to know who they are sleeping with and that sort of thing? but maybe some should keep better company.

I'm not talking about security guards holding bens hand 24/7. I'm talking about added security at the facilitys as well as the stadium

stlrtruck
11-28-2007, 05:13 PM
Why? Taylor's shooting was at his home in Miami!

This sounds like a targeted attack either on the house or possibly on Taylor. Remember, there have been previous break-ins at his house and although he was turning his life around he also ran with a questionable crowd from time to time.

So whether this stems from his previous life or just a mere coinicdence that it was his place, doesn't mean that by adding security to the stadium facilities is going to protect the athletes or the other fans for that matter.

fansince'76
11-28-2007, 05:21 PM
This sounds like a targeted attack either on the house or possibly on Taylor. Remember, there have been previous break-ins at his house and although he was turning his life around he also ran with a questionable crowd from time to time.

I agree - it's being classified as either a "robbery" or "burglary," yet no items were missing from the house itself? Doesn't add up.

HometownGal
11-28-2007, 05:22 PM
in light of the sean taylor situation and other nfl shootings, I really think the steelers should add security. I think professional athletes are quickly becoming targets.

There is enough security at HF and over at the South Side practice facility, so I wouldn't worry about the safety of the players at either of those places. From what I've read today, Taylor had a security system installed in his home, but his g'f's sister was staying with them and had gone out and the alarm was not turned back on. I'm sure 99% of pro athletes have security systems - it is up to them individually to protect their own a$$es when they leave the Steelers facilities, imho.

FastWillieParker39
11-28-2007, 05:35 PM
Well at Heinz Field they pat everyone down before you go in. I remember they did that when I went to my first game last year. Trust me, not that many other stadiums pat you down, I've been to many. So I'll give the Steelers that.

revefsreleets
11-28-2007, 07:18 PM
The Steelers already have this base covered. They don't draft gangstas, and if they slip up and find out that they were wrong, they cut 'em.

I'll give you an example.

Ricky Williams is currently in the Dolphins tough "10 strikes and you're still back" probation program.

Bam Morris was caught with a trunk full of pot and the Steelers cut him the day after he was convicted. By the way, is anyone surprised that the Ravens were the team that picked him up?

TackleMeBen
11-28-2007, 07:34 PM
The Steelers already have this base covered. They don't draft gangstas, and if they slip up and find out that they were wrong, they cut 'em.

I'll give you an example.

Ricky Williams is currently in the Dolphins tough "10 strikes and you're still back" probation program.

Bam Morris was caught with a trunk full of pot and the Steelers cut him the day after he was convicted. By the way, is anyone surprised that the Ravens were the team that picked him up?

he and ray lewis are probably BFF...lol...:wink02:

nojobny
11-28-2007, 08:01 PM
I agree - it's being classified as either a "robbery" or "burglary," yet no items were missing from the house itself? Doesn't add up.

Childhood friend Rolle doubts burglary

Associated Press
Updated: November 28, 2007, 7:27 PM ET

TEMPE, Ariz. -- Still in disbelief of his childhood friend's shooting death, Arizona Cardinals cornerback Antrel Rolle vowed Wednesday to make sure Sean Taylor is remembered.

He added he did not believe the killing was part of a burglary gone sour, and that Taylor had many enemies on the streets of Miami.


"This was not the first incident," Rolle said. "They've been targeting him for three years now."

Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor, who was trying to build a more stable life.

"He really didn't say too much," Rolle said, "but I know he lived his life pretty much scared every day of his life when he was down in Miami because those people were targeting him. At least, he's got peace now."

Rolle and Taylor, whose fathers were policemen in Homestead, Fla., started playing football together when they were 6 years old. They went on to become University of Miami teammates and NFL first-round draft picks. Both wore No. 21, Rolle for the Cardinals, Taylor for the Washington Redskins.

Rolle said he hadn't talked to Taylor in a while, and that the Redskin had withdrawn from the crowd he hung around with to build a new life with his girlfriend and young daughter.

"There was so much surrounding him," Rolle said. "Everyone was talking about him bad, so he just had to distance himself from everyone and live a life of his own. ... Within the last year, I've never seen anyone make such a dramatic change,"

Withdrawing from a bad crowd isn't easy, though, Rolle said.

"They say it was a burglary. It absolutely was not a burglary," he said. "Down South, where we're from, there were many people talking to Sean, a lot of jealousy, a lot of angry people.

"Sean, he had a large group of friends, and he no longer hung out with those friends, so you never know where this came from."

Rolle said his family rushed to the hospital to be with Taylor's family following the shooting.

"It really hasn't hit me yet," Rolle said, "the fact that I'm never going to see his face again, his ways, him performing on the field. My heart goes out to his girlfriend, his family, his little kid."

Rolle will leave immediately after Sunday's game against Cleveland on a flight to Miami, where he will attend Monday's memorial service. But Rolle wants fans to keep remembering Taylor as the player he was and the man he was becoming after some rough years.

"I'm going to keep his name alive," Rolle said. "Every time I make a play, I'm definitely going to mention him. I'm going to represent my 21 as his 21."

Rolle said he and Taylor became friends as 6-year-old teammates for the Homestead Hurricanes. Later, when they played against each other, Rolle was a running back and Taylor a linebacker.

"They'd call a sweep one way," Rolle said. "I would look at him on that side, and I would change the play myself and go the other way because I knew he would try to knock my head off."

Rolle was an All-American as a senior in 2004 and was picked eighth overall by the Cardinals. A year before, Taylor earned similar honors at Miami, then went to Washington as the fifth overall choice.

"I definitely will go out there and play and do everything I can do because I know how much he loved the game," Rolle said. "I don't think there was anyone who lived it or took it as seriously as he did. I just told myself I'm not going to let his name die. We started when we were 6 years old, and we're going to finish it together."

revefsreleets
11-28-2007, 08:17 PM
This is the first time I've ever heard anybody say that a gangster was killed BECAUSE he "changed" and turned away from his former ways.

Sorry. I don't buy it. When this all sorts out, it'll be ugly. Here's a start: If a person breaks into my house, my FIRST action is calling 911, not grabbing a machete from under my bad.

stlrtruck
11-28-2007, 08:59 PM
Sorry. I don't buy it. When this all sorts out, it'll be ugly. Here's a start: If a person breaks into my house, my FIRST action is calling 911, not grabbing a machete from under my bad.

Different instincts for different people. I've known country folks that grab the 12 gauge or hunting rifle before they ask questions or grab a phone.

I'm not saying it's right, it's just a shame that people have to get that angry that they target others.

Rhee Rhee
11-29-2007, 01:53 AM
i just think that these events are unpreventable and we should just hope and pray no steeler faces the same fate as sean taylor... RIP

revefsreleets
11-29-2007, 09:03 AM
As far as Heinz Field security (getting back on track here), I think the whole "NFL pat down" thing should be eliminated. It's a waste of time and money and isn't going to stop anybody from doing anything. Most of the guys do such a bad job at the pat down that it would be easy to have a giant bomb strapped to your chest and make it through. If somebody is deadset on attacking an NFL football field, they'll do it. The current situation just makes it take forever to get in the stadium.

83-Steelers-43
11-29-2007, 09:09 AM
Going to every home game, they make you take everything out of your pockets, feel both arms, both legs and all around your waist line. For women, they go through your whole purse. Hell, you can't even get in there with a bottled water. They are pretty good when it comes to pat downs. Do they give you a cavity search and make you take off all of your cloths? No. Personally, I have no problem with it. Makes me feel secure when I go to the games.

In a day and age where you have students killing 30 at a time and people snapping in general, I'll take the security. What better place to kill as many people as you possibly can than at a sporting event? 67,000 + people packed into a stadium? Turkey shoot anybody? Yeah, I'll take the security. The wait to get in is not all that bad. You always have the option of getting there a little earlier if you do not want to wait 10-15 mins in line for your own safety.

As for the athletes themselves. When they are outside of the stadium it's up to them. Bodyguards, security systems, etc. etc. It also helps if you choose not to run with the wrong crowd and stay out of trouble yourself. Karma.

TackleMeBen
11-29-2007, 09:11 AM
i agree that the pat down makes it harder or longer to get into a stadium. i guess the stadium security wants to make it look like they are doing everything they can to prevent something from happening, now whether they do a good job or not that is another story. lol

revefsreleets
11-29-2007, 09:14 AM
I'd say the last 5X I was there, they lightly touched my sides from around my armpits to my waist and felt my pockets. I could have had a bazooka strapped on my back and a grenade launcher down my leg and they'd have never spotted it.

But that is exactly why they do it. It makes people feel better.

BlastFurnace
11-29-2007, 09:39 AM
I worry more about terrorist plots at stadiums holding 50,000+ people than I do about gunfire at games.

83-Steelers-43
11-29-2007, 09:42 AM
I worry more about terrorist plots at stadiums holding 50,000+ people than I do about gunfire at games.

Well, somebody was doing their job when it comes to that......

Heinz Field security officers spotted the men on a security camera trying to enter the stadium, a Steelers spokesman said. They first opened an exterior door at Gate B without going inside, police said. They then took a folding chair to the fence at Gate 5 on Art Rooney Drive, and Mr. Durvasula allegedly stepped up on the chair to scale the fence.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06310/736047-66.stm

Counselor
11-29-2007, 10:04 AM
This is the first time I've ever heard anybody say that a gangster was killed BECAUSE he "changed" and turned away from his former ways.

Really? I've heard of that quite often---in the case of mob informants, for example.

Taylor had what I'm sure his former "friends" all wanted---money, fame, success. He was shot in the leg, not with "kill" shots the head or heart----sounds to me like someone wanted to give him a warning or put him out for the season---they just happened to hit the femeral artery.

And just because you would call 911---doesn't mean that's everyone's first instinct. Please don't blame this guy for his own murder---it reminds me of blaming a woman for her assault because she wore the wrong clothes.

jjpro11
11-29-2007, 10:23 AM
i dont think it could have been an assassination of some sort, because he was only shot twice.. and in the leg. there could have been some sort of struggle or taylor could have startled the intruder, causing him to quick fire out of fear. its all just speculation as of now.

MJ5150
11-29-2007, 01:16 PM
The death of Taylor is not related to the NFL. He ran with the wrong crowd, and waited too long to get out. It caught up with him finally. So sad indeed, but it would have happened to him if he worked at Best Buy too.

-Mike

revefsreleets
11-30-2007, 04:38 PM
Really? I've heard of that quite often---in the case of mob informants, for example.

Taylor had what I'm sure his former "friends" all wanted---money, fame, success. He was shot in the leg, not with "kill" shots the head or heart----sounds to me like someone wanted to give him a warning or put him out for the season---they just happened to hit the femeral artery.

And just because you would call 911---doesn't mean that's everyone's first instinct. Please don't blame this guy for his own murder---it reminds me of blaming a woman for her assault because she wore the wrong clothes.

Since when are common thugs sharp shots? It's a bit of a reach to assume that this was a warning shot across the bow. It's Occam's Razor: This was a troubled kid from Thug U with a violent history who ran with (and by many reports, still was running with) a bad crowd.

If I like to play with games running across train tracks just before the train passes moving at full speed on slippery tracks for fun, and one day a train hits me, is it really the trains fault?