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SCSTILLER
12-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Ok, I know the game was against the Bungles, but I was really impressed with Max Starks play at left tackle. There was not much pressure on Ben from the left side and Starks also seemed to be quicker in his motions than Smith is when he is in there. I know that he was hot and cold at right tackle, but hear me out on this (and let the sarcasm begin :wink02:). Next year, move Smtih to right tackle, Starks to left tackle, Willie Colon to left gaurd. This is all depending on Faneca leaving, which all indications are pointing to yes unfortunately. This would put our o-line from left to right as: Starks, Colon, Mahan, Simmons, Smith. I don't know, if Max's play continues the way it was yesterday (I know, he is streaky) it could benefit us since Marvel was originally a rt tackle and I beleive that Colon played gaurd in college. What do you all think? Come on, hit me!

Preacher
12-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Then we take two players in the draft on the first day...

If it works, that would be great. However, I would like to see the line up in one or two throw a way games at the end of this year first.

OneForTheToe
12-03-2007, 02:09 PM
I agree Max played pretty well. however, I am not willing to conceed that he should start until I see how he plays against a fast DE on a fast surface.

19ward86
12-03-2007, 02:11 PM
i still dont know why he doesnt start over colon, what did he do besides help will gain around 1750 rushing yards in 2 seasons and win a super bowl. he is really good and i can see him playing LG for us next year, he is so big and strong he could take on casey hampton and not lose......badly, like everyone else.

BlastFurnace
12-03-2007, 02:13 PM
Give Max credit. He held Jason Taylor and Smith of the Bengals at bay. Taylor was neutralized by a terrible field...and maybe Smith was neutralized by a wet field as well. Either way, this was a couple of solid outings for Max.

Being that both games were nationally televised, it will probably get Max some much needed publicity before his Free Agency campaign begins after the season ends.

Teams know he was a former starter...and they know now that he can play both Right and Left tackle. Max might have just made himself alot of money next season from the two previous games. I'm not sure what the Steelers will do here, but I'm not convinced that Max is going to be worth what some crazy team out there will offer him...even based upon 2 games.

He will probably get the start next week in place of Smith as well. I don't know how Max will do against Seymour, but that would further his meal ticket for next season if he does well. Not to mention, I am not sure I want a rusty Smith in that game anyway.

ShutDown24
12-03-2007, 02:15 PM
Max played great but two games don't make up for horrible play in the past...

I like you're solution but I like what I have been saying a bit more... When Faneca leaves put Starks inside at left guard, leave everything else as is and draft some versatile o-linemen in the first second and yes maybe even third rounds... Then you make open competition at every position for every player (Except possibly Simmons at right guard) and see what happens

SCSTILLER
12-03-2007, 02:19 PM
I forgot about him being a free agent next year, that could definitely change things. Maybe he is on top of his game to get a meal ticket next year, but just maybe him losing his starting position has lit a fire under his arse!

Counselor
12-03-2007, 02:40 PM
Question for you all---was Max's college position left tackle? I swear I heard that somewhere.

Max said in an interview last week that he is left-handed. I would imagine (as a lefty myself) that it would be naturally easier for a lefty to block on the left side of the line. Certainly your reaction to & strength against end rushes would be better.
Maybe left tackle is his more natual position. Just a thought.

He and the rest of the line did a good job last night. kudos---now keep it up!

HometownGal
12-03-2007, 02:42 PM
Max did play very well in the games against the Dolfs and Bungles, but I'm with the others here who would like to see his performance against a quick DE on a normal field before I commit to wanting the Steelers to re-sign him.

Rhee Rhee
12-03-2007, 03:36 PM
i want to see him suceed agains richard seymour... if he does that and contains the OLB's for the pats at least somewhat.. im sold on him being a LT for years

Black@Gold Forever32
12-03-2007, 05:16 PM
I think Max has showed enough the last two weeks to be back in the starting lineup at RT......He has done a solid job at LT...I'm not a Max Starks fan either but he has impressed the last two weeks....Were I think Willie Colon has looked average to poor all season....So I hope Tomlin thinks about putting Starks back at RT....

zoneblitz43
12-03-2007, 08:15 PM
I think Starks may have a future at LT. He mentioned he is left-handed, played LT and college, and I heard he lost about 20 pounds making him lighter and faster. I won't be completely sold until next week but if he plays well against New England I'd keep him at LT and move Smith to RT.

steelpride12
12-03-2007, 09:20 PM
Well lets see how he performs against the Pats and Ravens to prove if he can be our starter because i don't think it will be easy for him to win it over Smith who is pretty solid at that position!

jjpro11
12-04-2007, 01:42 AM
Question for you all---was Max's college position left tackle? I swear I heard that somewhere.

Max said in an interview last week that he is left-handed. I would imagine (as a lefty myself) that it would be naturally easier for a lefty to block on the left side of the line. Certainly your reaction to & strength against end rushes would be better.
Maybe left tackle is his more natual position. Just a thought.

He and the rest of the line did a good job last night. kudos---now keep it up!

your right.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07338/838963-66.stm

Starks helps sack-free effort


Ben Roethlisberger, sacked 35 times this season, was not sacked in a game for the first time this season. The previous game he played without being sacked came Dec. 7, 2006, against Cleveland.

It came with Max Starks playing another good game at left tackle, where he made his second consecutive start for injured Marvel Smith.

"It's fun, a fun position, something I'm comfortable with," said Starks, who lost his two-year hold on the right tackle spot to Willie Colon in training camp. "I played it before in college and high school. It's a comfortable fit for me."

Preacher
12-04-2007, 01:47 AM
your right.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07338/838963-66.stm

Starks helps sack-free effort


Ben Roethlisberger, sacked 35 times this season, was not sacked in a game for the first time this season. The previous game he played without being sacked came Dec. 7, 2006, against Cleveland.

It came with Max Starks playing another good game at left tackle, where he made his second consecutive start for injured Marvel Smith.

"It's fun, a fun position, something I'm comfortable with," said Starks, who lost his two-year hold on the right tackle spot to Willie Colon in training camp. "I played it before in college and high school. It's a comfortable fit for me."


Hey.. I want to see him there for a while. But if we can recycle to that position... That will take even less pressure off of us.

Steeldude
12-04-2007, 06:21 AM
i still dont know why he doesnt start over colon, what did he do besides help will gain around 1750 rushing yards in 2 seasons and win a super bowl. he is really good and i can see him playing LG for us next year, he is so big and strong he could take on casey hampton and not lose......badly, like everyone else.


19ward86, looking at most of your posts it seems like you just became a steelers' fan.:smile:

to answer your question about starks, just look at last year.

GBMelBlount
12-04-2007, 08:26 AM
your right.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07338/838963-66.stm

"It's fun, a fun position, something I'm comfortable with," said Starks..."[/B]

Sometimes I think Starks is a little too complacent. I wish he had a little more of a mean streak, like Colon.

Counselor
12-04-2007, 08:45 AM
19ward86, looking at most of your posts it seems like you just became a steelers' fan.:smile:

to answer your question about starks, just look at last year.

You know---we could say that about everyone, including Ben.

OneForTheToe
12-04-2007, 01:55 PM
Sometimes I think Starks is a little too complacent. I wish he had a little more of a mean streak, like Colon.

Speaking of mean streaks, was anyone else shocked as I by Kendall Simmons getting into a shoving match on Sunday? It reminded me of an episode of the Simpson's where Lisa is driving away on a riding mower with Homer's roasted pig, and Marge is yelling, "Bart, Nooooo," at which point Bart responds, "Mom, I'm right here," and Marge says, "sorry ... force of habit."

Anyhow, when I saw the pushing I'm yelling at the TV, "Willie, Noooo," 'cause I figured it was Willie Colon. I don't like the penalty, but it is nice to seesome fire from Kendall.

lilyoder6
12-04-2007, 04:10 PM
i think starks is good b/c he's arms are long and huge.. so he can keep the seperation between his body and the defender... thats y i think he is good..

OneForTheToe
12-04-2007, 05:02 PM
i think starks is good b/c he's arms are long and huge.. so he can keep the seperation between his body and the defender... thats y i think he is good..

Maybe it is the Chuky Cambell's soup?