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19ward86
12-04-2007, 10:03 PM
has anyone else noticed that the steelers have thrown less and less HB screens as the year has gone by. the steelres threw one screen on sunday and it went for 17. parker ran a 4.17 in college at one point in time. he has been getting slaughtered throughout the year and i think getting him in open space will make big plays and relieve parker from some of the beatdown a runningback takes.

Hines0wnz
12-04-2007, 10:13 PM
Hopefully Arians runs a couple of them when NE is trying to get to Ben. Willie will burn them for a big gain and take the bite out of the pass rush. After getting burned by McGahee, I'm sure they will be out to beat the hell out of Willie. Its up to the play calling to keep him fresh and get him plenty of touches.

The Duke
12-04-2007, 10:15 PM
yep, definitely. we discussed it before that he should be used more like brian westbrook. I think Arians is a little obsessed with just pounding willie at the line for litle gains most of the time. maybe they change it for this sunday though....

Hines0wnz
12-04-2007, 10:16 PM
yep, definitely. we discussed it before that he should be used more like brian westbrook. I think Arians is a little obsessed with just pounding willie at the line for litle gains most of the time. maybe they change it for this sunday though....


I hope so too. Westbrook was the only marquee player in that game against NE and he killed them!

steelpride12
12-04-2007, 10:24 PM
Big time!
I remember in training camp as part of the new offense we would screen more and pass more to our HB's, but i have no seen it much at all.
Like Hines0wnz said Parker has the potential to be a Westbrook on screens and when we have run a screen or short pass to the RB they have all been successful!

geo123
12-04-2007, 11:06 PM
Willie's been having trouble getting past the line; when he does he's affective.
Maybe the screen pass is a good way to get him the ball past the line.

tony hipchest
12-04-2007, 11:18 PM
willie hasnt yet shown he has the hands to be used as westbrook. he seems to drop as many (looking upfield) as he catches. i dont think willie spends too much time in practice on the "hands" unit, especially while he is trying to assume the "jerome bettis" role.

then again, i want willie to be as good as jim brown and marshall faulk all roled up into one. its not gonna happen though.

Galax Steeler
12-05-2007, 05:00 AM
willie hasnt yet shown he has the hands to be used as westbrook. he seems to drop as many (looking upfield) as he catches. i dont think willie spends too much time in practice on the "hands" unit, especially while he is trying to assume the "jerome bettis" role.

then again, i want willie to be as good as jim brown and marshall faulk all roled up into one. its not gonna happen though.

Agreed I like willie but I don't think he will be that caliber.

Galax Steeler
12-05-2007, 05:01 AM
[QUOTE=galax steeler;334055]Agreed I like willie but I don't think he will be that caliber of a player.

srk173
12-05-2007, 06:53 AM
Ya all they run is that mother fng wr screen that never works for more than 3 yards.

moedap
12-05-2007, 07:58 AM
Ya all they run is that mother fng wr screen that never works for more than 3 yards.

I dont think its used with touchdown in mind. As far as FWP I think the negative side to his non-playing days at N.C. is that he never developed a running style that was all his. When I see him play now it isnt just that Arians is trying to pound him in there like Jerome Bettis but he trys to run like Bettis. He needs to listen to his own style.

The Greatest Game series on the NFL Network did the 77 Dallas Cowboys. The first segment talked about how Tom Landry tried to make Tony Dorset a pound them in the hole type of runner. Tony tried to do it Landrys' way but eventually won Tom over to his style of running where he used his speed to find the holes.

revefsreleets
12-05-2007, 09:40 AM
I've said this many times: It's like they ripped the HB screen out of the play book. They ran one screen to Parker in the Bengals game, though, and we all stood up and cheered.

The whole point of having a fast back is to give him opportunities out in space. We need to run more RB screens.

19ward86
12-05-2007, 10:13 AM
he can make screen pattern catches in my eyes but i also cant see him running a fly rout or a corner pattern and catching one but screens are doable.

Rotorhead
12-05-2007, 11:29 AM
I think the lack of screens has more to do with the def packages than anything, ever since the QB spy came to light, that brings an extra guy into to stop the RB screen. The spy will read that screen from the start IMHO

tony hipchest
12-05-2007, 11:40 AM
its hard to see all the defensive alaignment on tv when the steelers offense is on the field, but so many times when willie is a lone set back, it seems to be wide open on the edges for a pitch out. everytime i see it and think it would be a perfect call, it is willie up the middle for 2 yds.

MACH1
12-05-2007, 11:55 AM
its hard to see all the defensive alaignment on tv when the steelers offense is on the field, but so many times when willie is a lone set back, it seems to be wide open on the edges for a pitch out. everytime i see it and think it would be a perfect call, it is willie up the middle for 2 yds.

Yep.... It looks like he could break some big ones if they ran a toss every once in a while.
As far as the HB screen I think I can count the number of those we ran this year on one hand. :shake02:

aries4972
12-05-2007, 12:42 PM
Ya all they run is that mother fng wr screen that never works for more than 3 yards.
That WR Screen is used to bring the corners up closer to the LOS hence setting them up to get beat deep. all teams have some version of this screen and you'll see it used at least once or twice almost every game.