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warddj86
12-08-2007, 09:47 PM
I saw something on Sportscenter this morning that I found very disturbing, the way the NFL Draft looks right now, the 49ers get the 2nd overall pick, and if that happens, the Patriots will get that pick via a trade. Assuming the Dolphins don't pick him, the Pats could possibly pick Darren McFadden in the draft. I don't know about you, but I am cheering for San Fran to win a few more games this year.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-08-2007, 09:58 PM
The 49ers thought they were on the verge of really doing big things in the NFC this year and thats why they traded with the Pats to get back in the first round in this past draft to draft OT Joe Staley........So they gave the Pats their 08 first round draft pick.....Which with the 49ers totally sucking this year gave the Pats a top pick in the draft....What a dumb move now....lol The 49ers really over-rated their own team.....Putting to much faith in Alex Smith and Frank Gore...Both havn't lived up to the expectations....Smith especially....He looks more and more a product of Urban Meyer's system.......

tony hipchest
12-08-2007, 10:30 PM
i would love to see them have to pay a rookie more than anybody else on their team.

plus moss, samuel, and stallworth could all be gone with key young players looking for a new big $$$ contract.

this is as good as it gets for the patriots.

especially with old age and salary cap hell right around the corner. i think they would trade out of the pick. i hope all 31 teams severly lowball them and force them to either take way less than market value for the pick or be forced to use it on themseves (best case scenario in my eyes).

Danny Boy?
12-08-2007, 10:45 PM
The Pats basically traded their 1st rounder last year for Randy Moss and the #2 pick this year....Nice!

tony hipchest
12-08-2007, 11:14 PM
The Pats basically traded their 1st rounder last year for Randy Moss and the #2 pick this year....Nice!they have basically raped alot of teams with trades in their sb era.

bills
ravens
seahawks
raiders
49ers
and to some extent the dolphins.

they stole dillon from the bungles but a 2nd rounder was probably higher than market value just like the deal for welker.

about the only thing i respect and can appreciate about the pats is the way they were and are still able to bend teams over when it comes to pulling off trades.

SteelCityMan786
12-08-2007, 11:21 PM
How about we worry about what is now today's game not the future?

ShutDown24
12-08-2007, 11:42 PM
I don't think they would go for McFadden. If they did, I would believe he would only be trade fodder (Unless they want to trade Maroney already). Since they just drafted a runningback in the first round with Maroney, I think trading down would be an obvious solution for this team. They don't want to deal with many more primetime contracts and if they expect the offense to maintain this level of play throughout the next few seasons (Yeah right) another back isn't necessary. I would expect them to go defense, whether it be an inside linebacker or if they let Asante Samuels go a corner.... Harrison isn't getting any younger but they're aware he is on the roids so he has some years left in him lol... I would expect a trade down though and if Belichick really wanted to stick it to the league, I could even see them doing a flat first round for first round (09) trade... (Of course a little more would be included with the 09 pick)... Anyway, lol - I think McFadden is the last thing we need to worry about with the Pats.

Steeler in Carolina
12-09-2007, 12:13 AM
Screw em

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-09-2007, 04:33 AM
They could potentially owe 80 million for 5 players next year....They will probably trade out of the first round since their biggest need is LB...and the LB class is deep.
They could easliy get a future starter to replace their aging LBers in the second and third round.
Simply put...therre has to be some anxiety in the Patriots camp about getting a Lombardi this year, because they have probably priced themeselves out of contention next year.

Big D
12-09-2007, 08:40 AM
Unless Moss resigns with the patriots for far less money, Moss wont be back. And fact of the matter is that defense isnt getting any younger. And asante samuel could easily not be back as well. Hell even Mr. belicheat could retire. There are alot of questions about this team...

Mosca
12-09-2007, 08:52 AM
Yawn.

Next year is next year. Last year they were supposed to be worse this year, even with the additions.

Whenever you hear sportswriters and sportscasters speculating, remember that the Miami Dolphins are 8-19 since Sports Illustrated picked them to win the Super Bowl. Then go back to your cornflakes and daydreaming about pretty girls.

patsdynasty
12-09-2007, 09:26 AM
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking going on here. Moss and Samuel will resign. Stallworth will either take a huge pay cut or be replaced with Chad Jackson. Stallworth is a nice receiver but we probably wont see much of a drop off. And the Pats will almost certainly get better in the draft.

The Patriot
12-09-2007, 09:35 AM
Moss will stay because he wants to share Brady's fame. But don't worry about the draftpick. We're terrible at drafting. I heard that Merriweather is the last remaining on the Pats roster of our previous eight picks and he doesn't even start. I bet we'll trade the pick for a really good safety who has already established himself on a lousy team.

ShutDown24
12-09-2007, 09:43 AM
I think there is a lot of wishful thinking going on here. Moss and Samuel will resign. Stallworth will either take a huge pay cut or be replaced with Chad Jackson. Stallworth is a nice receiver but we probably wont see much of a drop off. And the Pats will almost certainly get better in the draft.

If Moss and Samuel both resign to long term deals (Which they will have to be, neither player would go for a short deal) you pretty much have to trade out of the first round... The common misconception that the Patriots are still way under the salary cap is laughable. If this was the MLB you're team could and probably would get better, you should know all about the fact that money wins (Red Socks) but it isn't. It is the NFL... This is as good as a team can possibly get during the regular season in these times. The only one having wishful thinking is you.

Atlanta Dan
12-09-2007, 02:28 PM
Pats remind me in some ways of the 78 Steelers - playing at a peak after years of success but several non-SB years. At the time it looked like the Steelers would roll forever - it was over after the next season.

Let's just worry about the Steelers building on this season and rebuilding the OL.

RoethlisBURGHer
12-09-2007, 11:39 PM
A lot of Patriot fans have grown sick of Maroney. He's okay catching the ball out of the backfield, but he doesn't hit the hole with any conviction and just gets jacked the second he steps into a hole.

I can see the Patriots drafting McFadden, It would give them a run game plus they could run some trick stuff with McFadden's ability to throw the football.

rbryan
12-10-2007, 01:39 PM
Pats will trade out of that #2 pick, Top 5 draft choices are more risky than ever with the kind of $ they command for an unproven player. I'd be more worried about the 2 or 3 value picks they get if they trade down moreso than if they take a gamble on McFadden

Atlanta Dan
12-10-2007, 05:04 PM
I bet we'll trade the pick for a really good safety who has already established himself on a lousy team.

Anthony Smith is unavailable

GBMelBlount
12-10-2007, 05:16 PM
Yawn.

Next year is next year. Last year they were supposed to be worse this year, even with the additions.

Whenever you hear sportswriters and sportscasters speculating, remember that the Miami Dolphins are 8-19 since Sports Illustrated picked them to win the Super Bowl. Then go back to your cornflakes and daydreaming about pretty girls.

Not only true, but LMAO funny! :toofunny:

Dynasty
12-10-2007, 05:22 PM
A lot of Patriot fans have grown sick of Maroney. He's okay catching the ball out of the backfield, but he doesn't hit the hole with any conviction and just gets jacked the second he steps into a hole.

I can see the Patriots drafting McFadden, It would give them a run game plus they could run some trick stuff with McFadden's ability to throw the football.

Hey there's a reason he was behind Gary Russel in college! :dang:

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-11-2007, 08:10 AM
Unless Moss resigns with the patriots for far less money, Moss wont be back. And fact of the matter is that defense isnt getting any younger. And asante samuel could easily not be back as well. Hell even Mr. belicheat could retire. There are alot of questions about this team...

Your right...Stallworth is guaranteed about 11 million next year due to meeting incintives....No way Moss will sign for less than Stallworth.

warddj86
12-11-2007, 02:38 PM
good point, if we got him i would absolutely love that, but thats extremely unlikely

patsdynasty
12-12-2007, 01:25 AM
Your right...Stallworth is guaranteed about 11 million next year due to meeting incintives....No way Moss will sign for less than Stallworth.

There is little chance Stallworth will even be back year. But he certainly will not be getting 11 million from the Pats.

verks36
12-12-2007, 07:43 AM
In the next 3 years hopefully the patriots team gets dicmantaled due to the fact that cant pay any1 compared to the way other teams will pay for them.

leaving next year
stallworth
Samuels
the list goes on this is just from the top of my head

if they draft darren mcfadden then the rest of the NFL is screwed

Jman
12-12-2007, 08:22 AM
Moss will stay because he wants to share Brady's fame. But don't worry about the draftpick. We're terrible at drafting. I heard that Merriweather is the last remaining on the Pats roster of our previous eight picks and he doesn't even start. I bet we'll trade the pick for a really good safety who has already established himself on a lousy team.

Hopeful Pats fans. :blah:

steelpride12
12-12-2007, 03:26 PM
Sorry this is a one year show so anything less than a superbowl win for them would be bad.
They def. can't keep alot of these high powered starters around next year so look for them to be gone and traded just so they have some money!

Rhee Rhee
12-13-2007, 05:39 PM
the rich get richer... and the poor get poorer.. i feel for mike nolan and all those guys...