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HometownGal
12-10-2007, 09:16 AM
I pretty much agree with Diana's grades here, other than the C+ given to Ben. I would have given him a B+ - I really had no problem with Ben's performance yesterday.

Report Card / Game 13 -- Steelers vs. Patriots
Monday, December 10, 2007Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Peter Diana/Post-Gazette

Patriots receiver Randy Moss hauls in pass as he's defended by Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor. (at Patriots 12/10/2007)GERRY DULAC grades the Steelers' effort in a 34-13 loss to the Patriots yesterday. The report is broken down into offensive and defensive positions, special teams and coaching. Quarterback: C+

Ben Roethlisberger did a good job executing the offense, especially the no-huddle, and made several big plays out of the pocket. But the offense didn't convert enough of its opportunities in the red zone -- not a good recipe against the high-scoring Patriots. Roethlisberger did not throw an interception and nicely eluded pressure to find Najeh Davenport on a 32-yard touchdown pass.

Running backs: B+
Willie Parker had 68 of his 124 yards in the first half, including a 30-yarder to jump-start the first touchdown drive. He also caught four passes for 23 yards. Najeh Davenport made two big plays in the first half, especially when he broke off a route to make a nice 32-yard touchdown catch. He also converted a fourth-and-1, which led to a field goal.

Receivers: D+
Not enough big plays from the receivers, particularly Santonio Holmes, who had only one catch for 13 yards. The longest reception by a receiver was 21 yards by Nate Washington near the end of the third quarter. Cedrick Wilson made several key catches after Holmes left the game in the second quarter, including an 8-yard catch on fourth-and-1 to keep alive a field-goal drive.

Offensive line: B-
Overall, it wasn't a bad performance. The Steelers had their most rushing yards (187) since Week 3 against the San Francisco 49ers and Roethlisberger was sacked only once into the fourth quarter, when the game was out of hand. The linemen nicely adjusted to protection changes when the Steelers ran their no-huddle offense. But they missed a good scoring chance when right tackle Willie Colon got pushed back into Hines Ward on a fourth-down handoff at the Patriots' 1.

Defensive line: C-
The Steelers did not have to worry about the run because the Patriots rushed only nine times for 22 yards. Still, QB Tom Brady was not sacked and was under very little pressure. About the only highlight was DE Brett Keisel deflecting a third-down pass from the Steelers' 24, forcing the Patriots to settle for a field goal.

Linebackers: D
The Steelers tried to pressure Brady with ILB James Farrior, who got close with a lot of inside blitzes. Nothing seemed to work, not even dropping backers into coverage to help stop the Patriots' underneath routes. Farrior helped on the first touchdown pass to Randy Moss, but couldn't make the play.

Secondary: F
The only guarantee was that Brady repeatedly victimized safety Anthony Smith, sucking him in for two long touchdowns -- one with a play-fake, the other on a flea-flicker. CB Ike Taylor followed Randy Moss all over the field and gave up seven catches for 135 yards and two touchdowns. But he was supposed to get inside help on the first TD and deep help when Smith bit on play-fake on a 63-yard TD.

Special teams: D
Jeff Reed was solid again, kicking field goals of 23 and 44 yards, but there were enough gaffes to make a difference. One was allowing a 39-yard kick return to set up the Patriots' first TD. The other was William Gay not knowing where the ball was and getting hit on a punt, allowing the Patriots to recover. Lawrence Timmons even had a block-in-the-back penalty that negated a nice return by Allen Rossum.

Coaching: C-
Mike Tomlin showed some guile on the road when he twice went for it on fourth down in the first half, converting both. The offense did a good job with time of possession (34:43), running the ball and not turning over the ball. But the league's No. 1 defense just couldn't stop Brady, who threw four TD passes, and had the first 300-yard passing game of the season against them.

Report Card / Game 13 -- Steelers vs. Patriots
Monday, December 10, 2007
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Peter Diana/Post-Gazette
Patriots receiver Randy Moss hauls in pass as he's defended by Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor. (at Patriots 12/10/2007)GERRY DULAC grades the Steelers' effort in a 34-13 loss to the Patriots yesterday. The report is broken down into offensive and defensive positions, special teams and coaching. Quarterback: C+

Ben Roethlisberger did a good job executing the offense, especially the no-huddle, and made several big plays out of the pocket. But the offense didn't convert enough of its opportunities in the red zone -- not a good recipe against the high-scoring Patriots. Roethlisberger did not throw an interception and nicely eluded pressure to find Najeh Davenport on a 32-yard touchdown pass.

Running backs: B+
Willie Parker had 68 of his 124 yards in the first half, including a 30-yarder to jump-start the first touchdown drive. He also caught four passes for 23 yards. Najeh Davenport made two big plays in the first half, especially when he broke off a route to make a nice 32-yard touchdown catch. He also converted a fourth-and-1, which led to a field goal.

Receivers: D+
Not enough big plays from the receivers, particularly Santonio Holmes, who had only one catch for 13 yards. The longest reception by a receiver was 21 yards by Nate Washington near the end of the third quarter. Cedrick Wilson made several key catches after Holmes left the game in the second quarter, including an 8-yard catch on fourth-and-1 to keep alive a field-goal drive.

Offensive line: B-
Overall, it wasn't a bad performance. The Steelers had their most rushing yards (187) since Week 3 against the San Francisco 49ers and Roethlisberger was sacked only once into the fourth quarter, when the game was out of hand. The linemen nicely adjusted to protection changes when the Steelers ran their no-huddle offense. But they missed a good scoring chance when right tackle Willie Colon got pushed back into Hines Ward on a fourth-down handoff at the Patriots' 1.

Defensive line: C-
The Steelers did not have to worry about the run because the Patriots rushed only nine times for 22 yards. Still, QB Tom Brady was not sacked and was under very little pressure. About the only highlight was DE Brett Keisel deflecting a third-down pass from the Steelers' 24, forcing the Patriots to settle for a field goal.

Linebackers: D
The Steelers tried to pressure Brady with ILB James Farrior, who got close with a lot of inside blitzes. Nothing seemed to work, not even dropping backers into coverage to help stop the Patriots' underneath routes. Farrior helped on the first touchdown pass to Randy Moss, but couldn't make the play.

Secondary: F
The only guarantee was that Brady repeatedly victimized safety Anthony Smith, sucking him in for two long touchdowns -- one with a play-fake, the other on a flea-flicker. CB Ike Taylor followed Randy Moss all over the field and gave up seven catches for 135 yards and two touchdowns. But he was supposed to get inside help on the first TD and deep help when Smith bit on play-fake on a 63-yard TD.

Special teams: D
Jeff Reed was solid again, kicking field goals of 23 and 44 yards, but there were enough gaffes to make a difference. One was allowing a 39-yard kick return to set up the Patriots' first TD. The other was William Gay not knowing where the ball was and getting hit on a punt, allowing the Patriots to recover. Lawrence Timmons even had a block-in-the-back penalty that negated a nice return by Allen Rossum.

Coaching: C-
Mike Tomlin showed some guile on the road when he twice went for it on fourth down in the first half, converting both. The offense did a good job with time of possession (34:43), running the ball and not turning over the ball. But the league's No. 1 defense just couldn't stop Brady, who threw four TD passes, and had the first 300-yard passing game of the season against them.

http://postgazette.com/pg/07344/840548-66.stm

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 09:20 AM
I pretty much agree with Diana's grades here, other than the C+ given to Ben. I would have given him a B+ - I really had no problem with Ben's performance yesterday.

Roethlisberger gets an F for that pathetic effort in the second half. He looked like a ****ing rookie again against a mediocre Pats defense. The game was there for the taking and once again, Roethlisberger wiffed.

Stillers43
12-10-2007, 09:28 AM
Arians gets a F- He sucks! He called a reverse on the goaline when he was with the Browns with Nothcutt running it. AWFUL CALL! He should be fired for that play alone.

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 09:31 AM
I defended Arians to my coworkers at the begining of the season, but enough is enough. This playcalling is just dumb. You have Davenport on the roster and you run a handoff to a wide receiver in motion on the 2. That's just flat out stupid.

Atlanta Dan
12-10-2007, 09:32 AM
The party line is they audibled out of a run on 3rd & goal to call the fade pattern to Holmes becuase the Pats were bunching the line - my view is good power running teams say so what, here we come in that situation.

Of course calling a flanker run on 4th and goal at the 1 confirms the Steelers are not a good power running game. Arians dissed his own OL with those calls.

BallsofSteel
12-10-2007, 09:34 AM
LeBeau apparently stayed in the locker room at halftime. He wasn't interested in stopping that offense. Maybe he thought the first half was good enough.

HometownGal
12-10-2007, 09:36 AM
LeBeau apparently stayed in the locker room at halftime. He wasn't interested in stopping that offense. Maybe he thought the first half was good enough.

The Steelers D looked lackluster in the second half, especially after that Moss/Brady fleaflicker. That took the wind totally out of their sails.

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 09:37 AM
The party line is they audibled out of a run on 3rd & goal to call the fade pattern to Holmes becuase the Pats were bunching the line - my view is good power running teams say so what, here we come in that situation.

Of course calling a flanker run on 4th and goal at the 1 confirms the Steelers are not a good power running game. Arians dissed his own OL with those calls.

You can't be a power running team with a scat back as your starting running back.

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 09:37 AM
The Steelers D looked lackluster in the second half, especially after that Moss/Brady fleaflicker. That took the wind totally out of their sails.

Yeah well Anthony Smith being out of position all game didn't help either.

Jman
12-10-2007, 09:40 AM
Yeah well Anthony Smith being out of position all game didn't help either.

Are you a fan of the Steelers or...? Just trying to understand, not be offensive...

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 09:41 AM
Are you a fan of the Steelers or...? Just trying to understand, not be offensive...

I'm upset because I'm a fan. A real fan doesn't sit back and make excuses when his team sucked ass. When they suck ass, I'll say they sucked ass and they sucked ass yesterday.

Jman
12-10-2007, 09:43 AM
I'm upset because I'm a fan. A real fan doesn't sit back and make excuses when his team sucked ass. When they suck ass, I'll say they sucked ass and they sucked ass yesterday.

Just trying to understand... I have my own opinion, but yea...

BallsofSteel
12-10-2007, 09:45 AM
Smith got owned. He's probably limping today because his ******* got a football shoved up it.

stillers4me
12-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Just trying to understand... I have my own opinion, but yea...

Good call.

The_WARDen
12-10-2007, 09:47 AM
The party line is they audibled out of a run on 3rd & goal to call the fade pattern to Holmes becuase the Pats were bunching the line - my view is good power running teams say so what, here we come in that situation.

Of course calling a flanker run on 4th and goal at the 1 confirms the Steelers are not a good power running game. Arians dissed his own OL with those calls.

Well, in his defense, the O-line has sucked all year...

Crushzilla
12-10-2007, 09:48 AM
I'm upset because I'm a fan. A real fan doesn't sit back and make excuses when his team sucked ass. When they suck ass, I'll say they sucked ass and they sucked ass yesterday.

What to show me where it says that?

TackleMeBen
12-10-2007, 09:49 AM
the team cant win just depending on ben. there are other players on this team that need to help win a game. the defense looked like it was confused with the pats offense. and the offense cant settle for FGs everytime it gets in the redzone. the running backs need to get better and run the ball harder. they should have known that the pats were going to make us win the game on ben's arm, especially after they had been run on the way they were by the eagles and ravens.

mastermind1967
12-10-2007, 09:50 AM
All I have to say is this. BECAUSE OF THE STEELER'S LACKLUSTER PERFORMANCE, I LOST A BET AND HAVE TO WEAR A PAT'S BASEBALL CAP ALL DAY TODAY!!!!!!

:banging:

:pissed:

wiz1120
12-10-2007, 09:50 AM
arians an F???????? this is the same offense that moved it up and down the field on the Pats.

SECOND, TOMLIN AND LEBEAU BOTH GET F's!! have u ever heard the term, half-time adjustments? we made none, and it just shows how versatile the Pats are, throwing the ball 34 straight times. The Pats prove once again that they can outsmart us, outcoach us, and even outclass us. I was not happy about all the scuffling when we were down 20 points. I feel ashamed of our coaching staff, and the garuntees we made. For shame

BallsofSteel
12-10-2007, 09:51 AM
Why didn't the defense play tighter coverage on the line of scrimmage in the second half? Especially when Welker was plundering them to death?

Someone please, entertain me.

mastermind1967
12-10-2007, 09:52 AM
I don't like Arians offense. Willie Parker needs a fullback.

HometownGal
12-10-2007, 09:56 AM
I don't like Arians offense. Willie Parker needs a fullback.

They had a damned good one until Tomlin/Arians decided to replace him. Doesn't matter, I suppose, as Kreider is on IR, but sitting Kreider in favor of Davis was a boneheaded move, imho. btw - where the hell was Davis yesterday???

Jman
12-10-2007, 09:58 AM
btw - where the hell was Davis yesterday???

He was on special teams...being special! :sofunny::sofunny:

Edman
12-10-2007, 01:00 PM
This sums up the game best...

Pittsburgh played 30 minutes, New England played 60. Pittsburgh settled for FG's, New England had TD's

Thus, it was a blowout, and the Steelers become the Pats' 13th victim.

WisconsinSteelerMan
12-10-2007, 01:08 PM
The receivers just sucked goat balls this game. I saw at least three passes in this game that would have been difference makers had they not been dropped? You gotta step up and catch the balls that are thrown right to you and also catch some of the ones that are "almost out of reach"...

I am disappointed by the loss, but this game, more than the other losses exposed some of our weaknesses in a big way. I just hope the our Men in Black (and Gold) can get out of a funk for next week's game. I am almost as scared for that game as I was about the Patriots. The Jag(offs) always play us tough...

Mike in La Crosse, WI

Steeldude
12-10-2007, 01:10 PM
QB - B

RB - B+

OL - D+

WR - C-

DL - C-

LB - D+ the only LB i saw running on "every" play was harrison.

DB - F

ST - C

COACHING/DEF/OFF - D

Steeldude
12-10-2007, 01:20 PM
Why didn't the defense play tighter coverage on the line of scrimmage in the second half? Especially when Welker was plundering them to death?

Someone please, entertain me.

simple, the steelers were playing it safe...again. it's been that way since lebeau has been here. he consistently has the DBs line up too deep when the QB is using a 3-step drop. there will be more of it next week too.

hellbread
12-10-2007, 05:58 PM
we have had the same defense for years. so i think the the head coach and the defensive coordinator both get F's for Failure to do their job. i dont know if Dick L. has some sort of ego or w/e but did he actually think he could run the same defense the patriots have been exploiting for years? it really has to kill tomlin to see db play like this. this guy prides himself on good db play ever since he was in tampa. tomlin is the head coach and has experience with good defense yet he doesnt help with adjustments and if he did then he did a piss poor job.

SteelCityMan786
12-10-2007, 06:32 PM
I pretty much agree with Diana's grades here, other than the C+ given to Ben. I would have given him a B+ - I really had no problem with Ben's performance yesterday.

Minus his play in the 2nd half, he did have a heck of a game. Otherwise, I have to agree with all of them. They just didn't keep things going in the 2nd half.

HometownGal
12-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Minus his play in the 2nd half, he did have a heck of a game. Otherwise, I have to agree with all of them. They just didn't keep things going in the 2nd half.

I don't believe he played all that badly in the second half, either. He did not throw a pick the entire game and he had some passes dropped that should have been caught. He tried to make a few plays with his legs and was successful for the most part. I just thought the C+ was a little unfair, as out of the entire offense, he and Willie were the most consistent of the whole bunch yesterday imho.

steel striker
12-10-2007, 08:02 PM
You can't put this game Ben and, he did not turn it over. We were able to move the ball but, we just could not punch it in. Bonehead play call on the fourth and goal in the second half. Our wr's did not the cause yesterday like it was mentioned above. I though what hurt some was the first drive when we did not get the td. That was a win for the cheaters right off the bat. Blown coverage killed us yesterday plus with troy & Clark out the last thing we needed was Smith's stupid prediction. Write it off as a bad game let's move on.