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HometownGal
01-01-2008, 09:01 AM
Any of you as shocked as I am? I think it's pretty obvious that the D's stellar play in the first half of the season played a HUGE part in the Steelers retaining that #1 spot.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08001/845806-66.stm

Shocker: Steelers finish with top defense

Tuesday, January 01, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Jaguars running back Fred Taylor ran for 147 yards and a touchdown against the Steelers Dec. 16 at Heinz Field.The final numbers have been tallied and a new champion has been crowned -- the Steelers defense finished atop the National Football League for 2007.

Now that defense has a more difficult job -- go out and prove they're not mere paper champions Saturday night against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Because anyone who saw the Jaguars shred that defense on the ground Dec. 16 would not dare declare it the best in the NFL.

The Jaguars ran for 224 yards with Fred Taylor piling up 147, both Heinz Field records for an opponent, in a 29-22 Jacksonville victory.

"They got us pretty good," linebacker James Farrior said. "But we're going to be ready this time. Hopefully, it won't go the same way. They should be coming here with a lot of confidence. They beat us and they beat us convincingly."

That's happened a lot lately. The Steelers have lost three of their past four games and surrendered an average of 28.5 points in those final four.

The No. 1 defense in the NFL has been leaking yards and points lately, and making people wonder if their stats weren't built against early creampuffs and before defensive end Aaron Smith was knocked out for the season Dec. 9 during a 34-13 thumping in New England.

"We need to get back to smashing the run," defensive end Brett Keisel said. "That's what we do best. We haven't shut down an opponent's running game in the past few weeks, but we have to start again on Saturday."

The Steelers defense ranked third against the run in the NFL by allowing an average of 89.9 yards per game and was third in pass defense, allowing 176.5 per game.

That shows balance and domination ... on paper.

"That's what we do, stop the run, and we haven't been doing that the last couple of weeks," safety Tyrone Carter said Sunday in the Steelers locker room after a couple of no-name Baltimore backs ran over them again. "Right now, it's over, it's new.

"If you ain't ready to play in the playoffs, you don't belong in here. We have great character on this team. I know we're going to be ready for Jacksonville."

The Jaguars are an early 2-point favorite to win. One thing the Steelers do have going for them is history. No opponent has beaten the Steelers twice in Pittsburgh in the same year in the club's 74 previous seasons.

Jacksonville will try to become the first, and no Steelers player thought the Jaguars would try anything different than they did Dec. 16 in Heinz Field.

"No, no, why would they do that?" linebacker Larry Foote responded, confused at the question. "They ran successfully on us -- why change?"

Some teams have been known to do it as a surprise tactic. The Steelers, for example, went into Indianapolis two years ago for a playoff game with virtually everyone, including the Colts, expecting them to run and keep the ball away from Peyton Manning. Instead, Ben Roethlisberger threw often in the first half, they jumped out to a lead and went on to an upset victory.

So what if Taylor ran for 147 and Maurice Jones-Drew tossed in another 69. No?

"What's the saying?" Carter asked. "If it works, keep going. They don't have anything to fix. They killed us with it.

"It's a copycat league. They're going to go back and see the things they had success with and see if we correct them. If we don't correct them, they're going to kill us and that's the bottom line."

The Steelers have lost two starting defensive players since they were stuffing running backs -- Smith and free safety Ryan Clark. Strong safety Troy Polamalu has missed a handful of games and also played through rib and knee injuries. Otherwise, the starters on defense have remained relatively healthy.

"I have a lot of confidence in this defense," said Farrior, its captain. "I know these guys, we know how to play and we know how to play well."

Saturday, they get another chance to show they can do it, particularly against the run.

"That's the key to victory," Foote said. "That's what they do and as a linebacker, I'm geeked up for that -- a playoff game, Saturday night in Heinz Field.

"Knowing they're going to come here and run it, what more could you wish for?"

NFL total defense

Final regular season statistics - Top 5

Rank/Team
Yards per game

1. Steelers
266.4

2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
278.4

3. Indianapolis Colts
279.7

4. New England Patriots
288.3

5. Tennessee Titans
291.6

bw87a
01-01-2008, 09:11 AM
i'm very surprised. and yes, i would agree it's evident that our play at the beginning of the season kept us afloat with this statistic. now let's stop the jax run and win this next game.

Atlanta Dan
01-01-2008, 09:13 AM
A real life example of the adage that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Would be interesting to read where this defense ranked statistically for the period of week 10 through 16 - my bet is it might not crack the top 10.

Jeremy
01-01-2008, 09:15 AM
#1............on paper.

HometownGal
01-01-2008, 09:22 AM
A real life example of the adage that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Would be interesting to read where this defense ranked statistically for the period of week 10 through 16 - my bet is it might not crack the top 10.

I'd have to agree with you there, Dan.

Jeremy
01-01-2008, 09:26 AM
What's really interested is that the defense got a lot worse when Troy went down with his various injuries. Yes he's a Pro Bowler, but the Steelers missed his presence big time the last part of the season. If anything gives me hope for Jacksonville, it's that Troy will be playing. It might hide how bad the corners have been playing recently.

fansince'76
01-01-2008, 10:01 AM
What's really interested is that the defense got a lot worse when Troy went down with his various injuries. Yes he's a Pro Bowler, but the Steelers missed his presence big time the last part of the season.

Agreed - I think the losses of Ryan Clark and Aaron Smith have hurt very badly as well.

Edman
01-01-2008, 10:22 AM
Number 1 Defense my foot. I find it hard to believe. No Defense has been playing worse than ours in the past month. NONE.

HometownGal
01-01-2008, 11:12 AM
Number 1 Defense my foot. I find it hard to believe. No Defense has been playing worse than ours in the past month. NONE.

Statistically (on paper), they are ranked #1 overall, but I agree - they sure haven't played like a #1 D in the past 5 weeks or so. I attribute some of their decline to the injuries that unit has suffered, particularly the HUGE loss of Aaron Smith, but I can't deny that their poor execution and gap coverage has hurt them as well. Their outstanding performance in the first half of the season is what kept them at #1, no doubt about it.

stillers4me
01-01-2008, 11:26 AM
Hopefully, we'll build on this in the offseason......and whoa baby....lookout!

jjpro11
01-01-2008, 02:24 PM
hopefully it will return to its early season form next season with the return of clark and smith, and the progression of woodley and timmons.

Atlanta Dan
01-01-2008, 02:27 PM
hopefully it will return to its early season form next season with the return of clark and smith, and the progression of woodley and timmons.

Hoping for the best for Clark, but he apparently has lost a lot of weight and has bigger issues than returning to the NFL

Atlanta Dan
01-01-2008, 07:23 PM
ESPN has the Steelers ranked 7 out of 12 playoff defenses - LBs are 3 out of 12 but DL is 9 out of 12 and DBs are 8 out of 12 - what a loss of respect over the last month

(FWIW the Jags are ranked 11th)

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/insider/news/story?id=3175066&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl %2fplayoffs07%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d3175 066

geo123
01-01-2008, 10:33 PM
The numbers don't always tell the whole story. The D needs to play better if they want to win in the play-offs.

The_WARDen
01-02-2008, 09:13 AM
that's the silly stat..yards per game.

Scoring per game is what matters. I don't care if the D gives up 400 yards but only 10 points.

What good is giving up 250 yards if you let them score 24?

plenewken
01-02-2008, 10:23 AM
that's the silly stat..yards per game.

Scoring per game is what matters. I don't care if the D gives up 400 yards but only 10 points.

What good is giving up 250 yards if you let them score 24?

Using Points Against vs Yards Against wouldn't change much the ranking of our defense. They would be #2 instead of #1. Only the Colts allowed less points than the Steelers, 262 vs 269.

Edited to add: And Points Against are not all imputable to the D. A kick-off/punt/interception or fumble returned for TD happen when the D is not on the field.

Dino 6 Rings
01-02-2008, 03:46 PM
Crunch time this weekend. Lets bring it.

SteelersJW
01-02-2008, 04:47 PM
In almost every game at home (excluding the Jacksonville game), we dominated the other team on defense. We've gotta step it up in the playoffs by stopping the run and not allowing deep passes.

Stlrs4Life
01-02-2008, 04:48 PM
Big deal. Likesaid before. #1 on paper, #32 in reality.

jjpro11
01-02-2008, 04:55 PM
we actually did have the legit #1 overall defense in the first half of the season. the 2nd half season defense is just a shell of its former self for whatever reasons.

fansince'76
01-02-2008, 05:00 PM
Big deal. Likesaid before. #1 on paper, #32 in reality.

Worse than the Bungles? We've sucked on D for about the last month - they've sucked on D all year; and last year, and the year before that, and....

plenewken
01-02-2008, 05:36 PM
Big deal. Like said before. #1 on paper, #32 in reality.

Granted, the defense hasn't been stellar since beating Baltimore early November but it's far from being as bad as you see it.
I'm not too thrilled by what they've shown over the last 6 games either but they won their Division, made the playoffs and they have a great opportunity to redeem themselves against Jacksonville Saturday.
I'm not certain it will happen but this team has the talent and the experience to beat anyone, Pats included.

Dino 6 Rings
01-02-2008, 05:54 PM
Kind of reminds me of the Colts last year, everyone was harping on their defense not being good enough, or playing bad down the stretch, then they came out and got it done. I like our talent, our coaches and our experience. There won't be any deer in the headlight moments from our defense in the playoffs, it'll be balls to the wall hart hitting attacking double teams over the top and constent pressure from snap 1.

No doubt Dick L is going to be considering retiring after this season, so I won't be suprised to see corners coming in hard on blitzes, Troy playing man to man on Tight Ends, the linebackers overloading sides and crushing the "rookie" QB early and often.

SteelSurf
01-03-2008, 01:53 AM
We lost to the Jets,beat the dolphins by only 3, lost to the bronkeys and the redbirds.
We didnt beat anybody Good. Browns? Come on.They're our perrenial kick dogs.Weephawks? The only team with an easier schedule then we had this year. Looking at it this way, we should be 14 and 2.

Just a reality check.

That being said, the Playoffs are the deciding factor. I'm an optimist. Only the cheatriots slapped us around the field. Even though the jags dominated the Steelers, We lost by only 1 TD.The rest of the losses were by a TD or less, so the Steelers were in every game. What is one TouchDown? What does that equate to? 1 fumble,1 interception,1 KO return....etc.

steeltheone
01-03-2008, 10:36 PM
[QUOTE=Jeremy;348921]What's really interested is that the defense got a lot worse when Troy went down with his various injuries. Yes he's a Pro Bowler, but the Steelers missed his presence big time the last part of the season. If anything gives me hope for Jacksonville, it's that Troy will be playing. It might hide how bad the corners have been playing recently.[/QUOT


Do you think the coverage might not be near as bad , if we had any kind of consistant pass rush.