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lamberts-lost-tooth
01-04-2008, 07:00 AM
Steelers have options if Rossum sidelined
By Mike Prisuta
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, January 4, 2008


The Steelers haven't had many happy returns this season, but they have options available in the event Allen Rossum (hamstring) is unable to return kickoffs and punts Saturday night against Jacksonville in an AFC playoff game.
"We've got a couple candidates there, really," coach Mike Tomlin said. "(WR) Willie (Reid) has been involved, (RB) Najeh (Davenport) has been involved, and (WR) Cedrick Wilson's been involved. Santonio (Holmes) caught punts this week. We'll leave no stone unturned to make sure we have a quality man back there ready to play."

Rossum missed last Sunday's regular-season finale in Baltimore. He was replaced on kickoff returns by Reid and on punt returns by Wilson.

Tomlin said he'll have no reservations about using starters to return kickoffs and punts if it comes to that. "It's time to leave it all out there, bro," Tomlin said. "We're not going to save any nuts. We're not going to squirrel them. We're going to be ready to play. No job too small this week."

No practice on Thursday
Strong safety Troy Polamalu (knee), Rossum (hamstring) and Offensive tackle Marvel Smith (back) didn't practice for the Steelers on Thursday. Reid (shoulder) participated on a limited basis. Running back LaBrandon Toefield (ankle) didn't practice for Jacksonville.

Digits

• 4 teams in the playoffs this season that have yet to win an NFL championship (Jacksonville, San Diego, Seattle, Tennessee).

• 152 NFL-record postseason punt return yards for Rossum while playing for Atlanta against St. Louis in a 2004 NFC Divisional Game.

HometownGal
01-04-2008, 08:51 AM
"We've got a couple candidates there, really," coach Mike Tomlin said. "(WR) Willie (Reid) has been involved, (RB) Najeh (Davenport) has been involved, and (WR) Cedrick Wilson's been involved. Santonio (Holmes) caught punts this week. We'll leave no stone unturned to make sure we have a quality man back there ready to play."

Please leave Willie Reid's stone turned.

Out of those 4, I'd probably go with Wilson. The Jags are physical all the way around and I don't want to chance Dookie or Santo getting injured on a P/K return. Plus - I don't know that Santo's ankle is 100% - why take the risk?

Counselor
01-04-2008, 09:04 AM
Please leave Willie Reid's stone turned.

Out of those 4, I'd probably go with Wilson. The Jags are physical all the way around and I don't want to chance Dookie or Santo getting injured on a P/K return. Plus - I don't know that Santo's ankle is 100% - why take the risk?

Agreed. In fact, lets place a few more stones on top of his stone, so they can't dig him up.

Steel Pit
01-04-2008, 09:26 AM
Lets just call an all out block on punts and let the ball come to rest.

CanadianSteel
01-04-2008, 09:44 AM
Always wonder why Najeh is considered a good return man ?? To me he's just too big and not enough speed. Always seems to get to around the 30 or so.
I guess because he holds onto the ball, and maybe our standards have dropped the past few years, but man we need an explosive player back there.
If I am the Jags I would kick it to Najeh all day knowing the chance for an explosive return is pretty minimal.

Jeremy
01-04-2008, 09:46 AM
Always wonder why Najeh is considered a good return man ?? To me he's just too big and not enough speed. Always seems to get to around the 30 or so.
I guess because he holds onto the ball, and maybe our standards have dropped the past few years, but man we need an explosive player back there.
If I am the Jags I would kick it to Najeh all day knowing the chance for an explosive return is pretty minimal.

Dude was a sprinter for The U in college. What more do you want?

CanadianSteel
01-04-2008, 09:57 AM
Ya but he's in the NFL now, and maybe he has added bulk because he is definately not quick. At leasy by retunr man standards.
Name me another team that put someone his size back as the main return man on kick offs. Most teams have an exposive return guy, which is often a DB who has plenty of jets....

Jeremy
01-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Ya but he's in the NFL now, and maybe he has added bulk because he is definately not quick. At leasy by retunr man standards.
Name me another team that put someone his size back as the main return man on kick offs. Most teams have an exposive return guy, which is often a DB who has plenty of jets....

Outside of Devin Hester, In can't think of any team in the NFL that has a really dynamic guy back there bringing back kicks these days.

Besides, most return guys are only as good as the dudes blocking for them and our blockers haven't been all that great this season.

touchdownward
01-04-2008, 10:59 AM
With all of our injuries, what about Bryant McFadden, if he isn't injured too.

lilyoder6
01-04-2008, 11:09 AM
leon washington and josh cribbs is good.. maybe we should put the white boy jeremy bloom back there and see how he does....

Atlanta Dan
01-04-2008, 11:37 AM
Since we are bringing in anyone who can fog up a mirror to play left tackle, I suppose the next disaster will be when I hear Coclough has reported for duty this afternoon to resume his brilliant career as a return specialist.

The way this week has been going I suppose that would not even shock me.:dang:

19ward86
01-04-2008, 12:24 PM
i think we just have bad special teams. if you notice there are teams that are great on kick coverage and returning kicks, then teams that do horrible on both, there are no teams that have a consistent 1 or the other in this league, notice that josh cribbs plays for the browns, andre davis....cedrick wilson(or was he all with 49ers)...quincy morgan, all of their returners in the last few years have done great. i think it is because they just have good blockers, not good returners but good blockers, maybe if their linebackers tackled better than blocked they would be in the playoffs. my point is that josh cribbs has great skill but is overrated because he is on a team who always has great succes. the steelers on the other hand averaged around 3or 4 yds per return on punt last season and averaged lik 5 or 6 this year, we are always near the bottom, randle el way great on kickreturn but even then we didnt have a consistent return game. i think we are cursed, we are always near the bottom of the list on punt average even though we have a 2 time ray guy award winning punter we still only average around 43 a punt which is exactly that...average.

CanadianSteel
01-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Outside of Devin Hester, In can't think of any team in the NFL that has a really dynamic guy back there bringing back kicks these days.

Besides, most return guys are only as good as the dudes blocking for them and our blockers haven't been all that great this season.

Totally agree about our blocking being a major part of the issue with returns.
On both punt and kick off returns there always seems to be waves of players make it through blocks very easily...

stillers4me
01-04-2008, 06:31 PM
We can work on explosive in TC.......for right now, I'll be happy just to have someone that can hold on to the frikkin' ball.

Man..........I'd hate to be those special teams guys come August........................

jjpro11
01-04-2008, 06:37 PM
i think we just have bad special teams. if you notice there are teams that are great on kick coverage and returning kicks, then teams that do horrible on both, there are no teams that have a consistent 1 or the other in this league, notice that josh cribbs plays for the browns, andre davis....cedrick wilson(or was he all with 49ers)...quincy morgan, all of their returners in the last few years have done great. i think it is because they just have good blockers, not good returners but good blockers, maybe if their linebackers tackled better than blocked they would be in the playoffs. my point is that josh cribbs has great skill but is overrated because he is on a team who always has great succes. the steelers on the other hand averaged around 3or 4 yds per return on punt last season and averaged lik 5 or 6 this year, we are always near the bottom, randle el way great on kickreturn but even then we didnt have a consistent return game. i think we are cursed, we are always near the bottom of the list on punt average even though we have a 2 time ray guy award winning punter we still only average around 43 a punt which is exactly that...average.

morgan was a good returner for us too during his time here.. i wish we would have brought back him instead of bloom. all i want are reliable guys back there. holmes isnt reliable and it looks like reid isnt either.. just put wilson and davenport back there. i trust wilson on punt returns too.

steelpride12
01-04-2008, 06:45 PM
On KDKA today they said Rossum is questionable, but he had a great day of practice and should be probable come game time so great news!

Atlanta Dan
01-04-2008, 06:49 PM
On KDKA today they said Rossum is questionable, but he had a great day of practice and should be probable come game time so great news!

Rossum was returning kicks against the Steelers coverage teams in practice - of course he had a great day; he probably looked like Devin Hester out there

cubanstogie
01-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Rossum was returning kicks against the Steelers coverage teams in practice - of course he had a great day; he probably looked like Devin Hester out there

:sofunny:

cubanstogie
01-04-2008, 07:42 PM
With Wilson back there I am confident in a fair catch and no turnover, but not expecting any kind of return. Reid needs a tent around him, the guy is a circus. We need Rossum big time.

section514
01-04-2008, 09:37 PM
if this was a few weeks earlier, i would not have a problem giving Jeremy bloom a try at returning, but since it is the playoffs, i don't think he has a chance this season rossum just pisses me off so much, i mean sure he catches everything, but he might as well fair catch every time, if it were up to me, Anthony Smith and rossum can go to the Browns

Galax Steeler
01-05-2008, 05:24 AM
I don't care who we have back there as long as we don't turn the ball over.

Elvis
01-05-2008, 09:46 AM
It just scares me to death to the see Willie Reid back there attempting to catch the ball little less run with it...
:banana:

desertsteel
01-05-2008, 11:38 AM
Yeah ... well let's not play it too safe worrrying about injuries. Wasn't it the Jags last week who gave up back to back KO returns for TDs? Against the Jags 1st team Special teams! I say give it to your best guy who has a chance to take it to the house.

Defense43
01-05-2008, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Jeremy

"Always wonder why Najeh is considered a good return man ?? To me he's just too big and not enough speed. Always seems to get to around the 30 or so."

Put Casey Hampton back there for all I care JUST HOLD ON TO THE BALL. If it's late in the game and we need a huge turn around to have any chance, put Holmes back there. Otherwise, just hold on to the ball to retain posession. Its very frustrating when our D comes up huge on a 3 and out or big defensive stand and then they have to go back out there after a fumbled punt return. Its much easier to score when we have the ball.

.24lockdown
01-05-2008, 12:40 PM
Outside of Devin Hester, In can't think of any team in the NFL that has a really dynamic guy back there bringing back kicks these days.

Besides, most return guys are only as good as the dudes blocking for them and our blockers haven't been all that great this season.

what nfl are you watching??
this year there have been more returns for td's than any other season in history...


as for the topic, if rossum is out then definitely go with cedric wilson on punt returns. i remember watching him in preseason...he does know what hes doing and hes also very patient with finding wholes and exploding when they are there

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-05-2008, 12:55 PM
what nfl are you watching??
this year there have been more returns for td's than any other season in history...




You are right on the money....

Week 1
Ellis Hobbs (108 yards), New England at New York Jets

Week 3
Jerome Mathis (84 yards), Houston vs. Indianapolis
Leon Washington (98 yards), New York Jets vs. Miami
Allen Rossum (98 yards), Pittsburgh vs. San Francisco
Josh Cribbs (99 yards), Cleveland at Oakland

Week 4
Casey Fitzsimmons (41 yards), Detroit vs. Chicago
Devin Hester (97 yards), Chicago at Detroit

Week 5
Leon Washington (98 yards), New York Jets at New York Giants
Terrence McGee (103 yards), Buffalo vs. Dallas

Week 7
Willie Andrews (77 yards), New England at Miami
Nate Burleson (91 yards), Seattle vs. St. Louis

Week 9
Glenn Holt (100 yards), Cincinnati at Buffalo
Maurice Jones-Drew (100 yards), Jacksonville at New Orleans
Leon Washington (86 yards), New York Jets vs. Washington

Week 10
Josh Cribbs (100 yards), Cleveland at Pittsburgh
Darren Sproles (89 yards), San Diego vs. Indianapolis

Week 12
Devin Hester (88 yards), Chicago vs. Denver
Josh Wilson (89 yards), Seattle at St. Louis

Week 13
Aundrae Allison (103 yards), Minnesota vs. Detroit

Week 14
Andre' Davis (97 yards), Houston vs. Tampa Bay
Yamon Figurs (94 yards), Baltimore vs. Indianapolis

Week 15
Micheal Spurlock (90 yards), Tampa Bay vs. Atlanta

Week 16
Devin Hester (64 yards), Chicago vs. New Orleans

.24lockdown
01-05-2008, 01:25 PM
^^thank you lambert.
that only includes kickoffs right?
it doesnt look like that list includes all of them

lilyoder6
01-05-2008, 01:54 PM
wow.. a 41 yrd return for a TD...

.24lockdown
01-05-2008, 02:30 PM
yeah that was on an onside kick.........LOL
how bad do you have to be to allow a td on an onside kick......hahahahahaha

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-05-2008, 03:47 PM
^^thank you lambert.
that only includes kickoffs right?
it doesnt look like that list includes all of them

The record up till this year was 18 in 1998...this year we beat that in week 12. The list I found didnt include all of them because I see where there have been 25 kickoff returns for touchdowns and a combined 42 kickoff and punt returns for scores around the league this season. Both numbers are NFL records.