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TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 04:58 PM
Whats your state of mind today following this gut-wrenching defeat in the face of legendary victory? Over at my former forum people talk openly of taking Monday off work and of how the window is clearly closing on our team.

Its ironic because I always expected die hards to have a bit more sa** than that but perhaps this defeat really WAS crushing.

While my opinion might not be popular, I think we gave a great showing in light of our early mistakes and this team showed something we clearly lacked in December: HEART. I for one thing we have a strong core, obvious weaknesses that can be repaired in a straightforward manner, and a great foundation in our all-star QB to build around for next year.

Yes this loss sucks, but to paraphrase the words of General MacArthur: We shall return!

:tt02:

stillers4me
01-06-2008, 05:03 PM
Whats your state of mind today following this gut-wrenching defeat in the face of legendary victory? Over at my former forum people talk openly of taking Monday off work and of how the window is clearly closing on our team.

Its ironic because I always expected die hards to have a bit more sa** than that but perhaps this defeat really WAS crushing.

While my opinion might not be popular, I think we gave a great showing in light of our early mistakes and this team showed something we clearly lacked in December: HEART. I for one thing we have a strong core, obvious weaknesses that can be repaired in a straightforward manner, and a great foundation in our all-star QB to build around for next year.

Yes this loss sucks, but to paraphrase the words of General MacArthur: We shall return!

:tt02:

Sounds like you might have found a new home at SF!

Anybody that thinks this team is finished had better go shopping for Brady* jerseys in the off season.........coz the Tomlin era has only just begun! :tt02:

fansince'76
01-06-2008, 05:04 PM
I think that anybody that's so "devastated" that they need to take tomorrow off from work really needs to reexamine their priorities in life. "Window is closing" on this team? The window slammed shut on the Ravens last year, but the Steelers' best players are all, for the most part, under 30.

SteelAssassin
01-06-2008, 05:18 PM
If Tomlin fires Bruce Arians on Monday morning and makes an example of him to the rest of the team that we wont tolerate spineless cowards destroying a great franchise like the Steelers, then I think we got some hope for the 2008 season.

If Tomlin decides to go "Cowher-Ball" on us and keep Arians around a few more seasons and do permanent damage to Ben's career.......WE ARE DOOMED.

:banging::banging::banging:

TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 05:21 PM
If Tomlin fires Bruce Arians on Monday morning and makes an example of him to the rest of the team that we wont tolerate spineless cowards destroying a great franchise like the Steelers, then I think we got some hope for the 2008 season.

If Tomlin decides to go "Cowher-Ball" on us and keep Arians around a few more seasons and do permanent damage to Ben's career.......WE ARE DOOMED.

:banging::banging::banging:


You think the dropoff from Wiz to Arians was worse than the dropoff due to Grimm's absence or the "contribution" of our still-and-always-awful-STs? I thought Arians did a serviceable job this year, he just picked the absolutely worst time to have a brainfart. I am a little cheesed off by our ability to blow close leads under Arians...

DP_Steeler
01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm less concerned at Arians, and more concerned with establishing a good OL to protect Ben - he was the most sacked QB this year - how far can you go and can we have thought they would go with that?

However, I do want the team to play to win, and those decisions reside with the HC and the OC.

slippy
01-06-2008, 06:10 PM
i'm not devastated today. completeing the comeback would have been great, but it's not like we had superior talent and blew it (like '94 and '01 champ games).

the qb sweep on 4th and 6 pissed me off, but i think arians gets another year and some o-line help; hard to call plays if you can't protect the qb/rb.

my biggest concern is i find myself jealous of the "physical" teams in the league. wow.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 06:22 PM
they actually do cancel classes at duke when duke loses in the ncaa tourney. or if they lose to carolina.

steelerfan29_99
01-06-2008, 06:23 PM
I'm some what satisfied with the season, Tomlin took us to a 10-6 record and a division title in his first year, Ben really developed into a STAR QB, my concerns are with the O-Line and the Defense. we need to find a way to get Woodley in the starting lineup next year and our D-Line needs to get consistent pressure on the QB. The O-Line needs major help though Essex impressed me last night because he actually for the most part played better than the injured starters did this year. The future is bright for the Steelers and next season is just 7 months away!!!!!

fansince'76
01-06-2008, 06:28 PM
If we stay with a 3-4, don't hold your breath for increased pressure from the DL, because pressure on the QB is not the DL's role in a 3-4, it's the LBs' job.

TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm some what satisfied with the season, Tomlin took us to a 10-6 record and a division title in his first year, Ben really developed into a STAR QB, my concerns are with the O-Line and the Defense. we need to find a way to get Woodley in the starting lineup next year and our D-Line needs to get consistent pressure on the QB. The O-Line needs major help though Essex impressed me last night because he actually for the most part played better than the injured starters did this year. The future is bright for the Steelers and next season is just 7 months away!!!!!

Haggans is UFA in February so I would expect Woodley to take over for him. Timmons needs to push the ILBs. Farrior is fast falling off as he gets older.

Our biggest needs are by far on the OL. Sean Mahan is perhaps the worst FA signing since we tried to replace Rod Woodson and Willie Williams with Donnell Wolford and J.B. Brown.

louisvillecards
01-06-2008, 06:41 PM
If Tomlin fires Bruce Arians on Monday morning and makes an example of him to the rest of the team that we wont tolerate spineless cowards destroying a great franchise like the Steelers, then I think we got some hope for the 2008 season.

If Tomlin decides to go "Cowher-Ball" on us and keep Arians around a few more seasons and do permanent damage to Ben's career.......WE ARE DOOMED.

:banging::banging::banging:

Watch what you say or they will delete your post. I was critical of Arians last night and they locked my thread.:shake01

I.C. Lights
01-06-2008, 06:42 PM
It sucks, but I'm surprisingly ok with it. I guess the big difference is this year, the team that beat us actually did it without cheating or any other b.s. We just ran up against a better team, and a team I can respect. Best of luck to the jags.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 06:45 PM
i went into the game expecting a blowout b/c of how beat up we were. yes, i was upset that we lost and it sucked because i was getting excited about our 4th quarter comeback, but like putting a needle in a balloon all the air was let out.

i am impressed with tomlin's first season as a rookie HC. now next season he needs to take that next step.

TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 06:49 PM
i went into the game expecting a blowout b/c of how beat up we were. yes, i was upset that we lost and it sucked because i was getting excited about our 4th quarter comeback, but like putting a needle in a balloon all the air was let out.

i am impressed with tomlin's first season as a rookie HC. now next season he needs to take that next step.

Barring a catastrophic injury next year I think AFC North champions and a playoff win are realistic goals, maybe more depending on what the Colts, Jags, Browns and Pats do.

jjpro11
01-06-2008, 06:52 PM
i almost wish it would have just stayed a blow out you hate to mount an emotional comeback like that, and it be all for nothing. i hate losing like that.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 06:53 PM
Barring a catastrophic injury next year I think AFC North champions and a playoff win are realistic goals, maybe more depending on what the Colts, Jags, Browns and Pats do

i think if the browns get their defense right they will be a tough team next season. and is if they keep anderson at qb.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 06:54 PM
i almost wish it would have just stayed a blow out you hate to mount an emotional comeback like that, and it be all for nothing. i hate losing like that.
:iagree: i think that is what hurts the most about this lost.

BlastFurnace
01-06-2008, 06:54 PM
Sad. That's how I feel today.

I wasn't ready for the season to end. I know we are a better team than Jacksonville and we didn't show it. Nothing anyone says to me will make me feel better about losing to a David Garrard quarterbacked team. I don't care what his TD/Int ratio is....he is a safe QB that no team will ever win a SB with...and you can put that in bold print.

I would have handled a loss next week much better because I do believe that New England is the best team in the league this season...and by a large margin...but Jacksonville is not near that category.

I don't blame any one player, ref, coach, etc. It just didn't work out and I'm pretty bummed out about it.

TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 06:57 PM
i think if the browns get their defense right they will be a tough team next season. and is if they keep anderson at qb.


Meh. First it was the Ravens, then the Bengals, now we're back to the Browns.


Like the last 10 years in this division the Browns next year will be just another victim!

I.C. Lights
01-06-2008, 07:00 PM
Meh. First it was the Ravens, then the Bengals, now we're back to the Browns.

Like the last 10 years in this division the Browns next year will be just another victim!

Ha ha! It's like a revolving door that we just keep pushing out of the way.

jjpro11
01-06-2008, 07:03 PM
i think if the browns get their defense right they will be a tough team next season. and is if they keep anderson at qb.

ehh.. i think they benefited from an easy schedule more than we did. 7 of their 10 wins were decided by 10 points or less.. if they didnt get a couple bounces go their way, they'd be below .500. and they had their share of bounces along with the benefit of staying healthy. we didnt have those bounces go our way and were decimated by injuries this season and we still won 10 games.

BlastFurnace
01-06-2008, 07:09 PM
ehh.. i think they benefited from an easy schedule more than we did. 7 of their 10 wins were decided by 10 points or less.. if they didnt get a couple bounces go their way, they'd be below .500. and they had their share of bounces along with the benefit of staying healthy. we didnt have those bounces go our way and were decimated by injuries this season and we still won 10 games.

Cleveland is better than you think. Their offense is top notch.

The original poster was correct. If they get a good defense, they will be trouble.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Cleveland is better than you think. Their offense is top notch.

The original poster was correct. If they get a good defense, they will be trouble.

if i am not mistaking i think they would have won the game in pittsburgh if they hadnt missed the field goal or at least tie it and send it into overtime. i would seriously be worried about the browns next season if they get their defense going. they are already good on the offensive side of the ball with edwards and the other guy i cant think of right at this moment. and cribbs on special teams... anyone knows when he or hester's contract is up..lol... :wink02:

BlastFurnace
01-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Just when I thought things could not get worse....here I am watching the SD/Tenn game and what do they show....The highlights of the San Diego 1994 CC game victory against us. UGHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I guess it is the last time San Diego won a playoff game.

stillers4me
01-06-2008, 07:29 PM
Just when I thought things could not get worse....here I am watching the SD/Tenn game and what do they show....The highlights of the San Diego 1994 CC game victory against us. UGHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I guess it is the last time San Diego won a playoff game.

I saw that, too.

I'm just getting myself more aggrevated watching both Eli Manning and Philip Rivers win playoff games when neither of them are half the quarterback Ben is. :dang:

BlastFurnace
01-06-2008, 07:31 PM
I saw that, too.

I'm just getting myself more aggrevated watching both Eli Manning and Philip Rivers win playoff games when neither of them are half the quarterback Ben is. :dang:

For that matter, neither is David Garrard.

TackleMeBen
01-06-2008, 07:40 PM
I saw that, too.

I'm just getting myself more aggrevated watching both Eli Manning and Philip Rivers win playoff games when neither of them are half the quarterback Ben is.

i hear you.. but at least ben has already won a superbowl and neither of them will..and dont worry eli will self destruct soon.

jjpro11
01-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Cleveland is better than you think. Their offense is top notch.

The original poster was correct. If they get a good defense, they will be trouble.

they have some improving to do.. they would not have broken .500 this year with the schedule they have next year.

BlastFurnace
01-06-2008, 08:07 PM
they have some improving to do.. they would not have broken .500 this year with the schedule they have next year.

To be fair then, based upon our schedule next year, would we have been over 0.500 with our current roster?

vader29
01-06-2008, 08:15 PM
i almost wish it would have just stayed a blow out you hate to mount an emotional comeback like that, and it be all for nothing. i hate losing like that.

That's what got me so depressed today also, after the way they battled the whole way back and then to lose in the last minute. :crying01:

I really wanted them to at least win their home playoff game and whatever happened next week I would have been satisfied, last time I felt this bad after a loss of any kind was when the Pirates lost to the Braves in the playoffs. Felt so bad today that I couldn't even watch today's games.

Even though I know we will be back stronger next year it is just going to be a long work week for me dealing with this loss.

fyrfyter48
01-06-2008, 08:30 PM
OK...no thoughts of self destruction or sick day tomorrow. However, as far as the sacks are concerned(at least last night), you can not blame the line for all those. 6seconds of protection should be more than enough. Ben can not continue to run around and look. If it is not there, you have 2 choices: tuck and run or throw it away. At least 3 times, Ben should have thrown the ball away. Hell, he threw 2 into DOUBLE coverage. Dont take my words wrong, I believe Ben is an elite QB, he just has to make quicker and better decisions. Also, I want to give total props to 99% of the crowd. We tailgated for the 1st time @ the stadium gold lot. We knew no one and by the time it was over we had made a lot of new friends. But the other 1% of the crowd: Obnoxius to everyone around them, young drunks and old drunks alike. I had 2 or 3 20 somethings grab my wife, pour beer on her(which I hate wasted beer) and they were just a bunch of dumbasses. Being a cop from another city(and drinking at the tailgate) I was not going to do anything stupid, so I just had the PPD escort these asses out of the stadium. A lady in front of us thanked us for actually having something done. It is one thing to be drunk and controled, but when the drubks start hitting on 13 year old girls, grabbing other ladies as well, you have no choice but to either be a human being and say something, or act like it is just funny. Enough was enough. But again, 99% were great!!!!!!!

TheMightyEx
01-06-2008, 09:02 PM
However, as far as the sacks are concerned(at least last night), you can not blame the line for all those. 6seconds of protection should be more than enough. Ben can not continue to run around and look. If it is not there, you have 2 choices: tuck and run or throw it away. At least 3 times, Ben should have thrown the ball away. Hell, he threw 2 into DOUBLE coverage.


I don't think Ben had 6 seconds of protection combined all night. The O-Line has been a glaring weakness all season. Ben has literally taken dung filled straw and spun it into gold with the little time hes had

The Duke
01-06-2008, 09:09 PM
OK...no thoughts of self destruction or sick day tomorrow. However, as far as the sacks are concerned(at least last night), you can not blame the line for all those. 6seconds of protection should be more than enough. Ben can not continue to run around and look. If it is not there, you have 2 choices: tuck and run or throw it away. At least 3 times, Ben should have thrown the ball away. Hell, he threw 2 into DOUBLE coverage. Dont take my words wrong, I believe Ben is an elite QB, he just has to make quicker and better decisions. Also, I want to give total props to 99% of the crowd. We tailgated for the 1st time @ the stadium gold lot. We knew no one and by the time it was over we had made a lot of new friends. But the other 1% of the crowd: Obnoxius to everyone around them, young drunks and old drunks alike. I had 2 or 3 20 somethings grab my wife, pour beer on her(which I hate wasted beer) and they were just a bunch of dumbasses. Being a cop from another city(and drinking at the tailgate) I was not going to do anything stupid, so I just had the PPD escort these asses out of the stadium. A lady in front of us thanked us for actually having something done. It is one thing to be drunk and controled, but when the drubks start hitting on 13 year old girls, grabbing other ladies as well, you have no choice but to either be a human being and say something, or act like it is just funny. Enough was enough. But again, 99% were great!!!!!!!

that's true, and that's something he did too much in 2006. there was someone on espn that said maybe he did it to show he wasn't affected by the previous interception. it was a risky throw and he hopefully learned his lesson

DP_Steeler
01-06-2008, 09:34 PM
i almost wish it would have just stayed a blow out you hate to mount an emotional comeback like that, and it be all for nothing. i hate losing like that.

That is probably the main reason why many of us were very frustrated. To tell you the truth, I was quite relaxed during the third quarter ... I had not expected them to win, afterall, they had not shown us anything great in the past ga,es since the home win against the Ravens at home. So I guess I went into it not expecting much. All of that was proven true until they mounted the comeback ... then you find yourself right back in it, breathing heavier as you fill with emotion ... then the air is let out of the balloon leaving us with a "ripped-off" fealing ... as though we had been led astray ... I guess those are the highs and lows of sport.

DP_Steeler
01-06-2008, 09:36 PM
I saw that, too.

I'm just getting myself more aggrevated watching both Eli Manning and Philip Rivers win playoff games when neither of them are half the quarterback Ben is. :dang:

Both Manning and Rivers are getting time to throw, something which Ben did not get this year.

Mosca
01-06-2008, 09:37 PM
My state of mind? That I have other, pressing, real life problems, and the Steelers are a nice diversion.

It's a sport, I'm a fan, most seasons end this way. Next.

fansince'76
01-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Watch what you say or they will delete your post. I was critical of Arians last night and they locked my thread.:shake01

Yeah, only because another thread, not to mention 2 others on the SAME TOPIC was opened besides yours, and before yours as well.

Please take the time to READ: http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=18071

DP_Steeler
01-06-2008, 09:43 PM
My state of mind? That I have other, pressing, real life problems, and the Steelers are a nice diversion.

It's a sport, I'm a fan, most seasons end this way. Next.

Sorry, I can't feel the same, but then again I have always gotten too emotionally involved in sports over the years ... maybe that is a weakness of mine, I shouldn't take it so seriously, but whether it be hockey or football, it takes me a few days to decompress, particularly when it comes down to a play like last night's.

However, everyone gets into sports at different levels.

Rhee Rhee
01-06-2008, 10:02 PM
they actually do cancel classes at duke when duke loses in the ncaa tourney. or if they lose to carolina.

what are u kidding? imagine if they went 0-30... no school for the entire semester!

klick81
01-07-2008, 12:39 AM
This loss hurts like a mofo, but I'm more than satisfied with the players. They played their hearts out. Left nothing on the field.

X-Terminator
01-07-2008, 12:44 AM
If it took you longer than 5 minutes to get over this loss, you might want to get on the phone Monday morning and call your nearest psychologist.

It's a game. Treat it like one.

jjpro11
01-07-2008, 12:48 AM
If it took you longer than 5 minutes to get over this loss, you might want to get on the phone Monday morning and call your nearest psychologist.

It's a game. Treat it like one.

lol.. nobody is jumping off buildings because of the loss.. it does take a little while to calm down after that emotional roller coaster we went through watching it.