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lamberts-lost-tooth
01-07-2008, 09:37 AM
Excellent article in light of some of the officiating we have witnessed this year...Dont let the fact that Gosselin in from Dallas turn you off, he is one of the best writers covering sports and perhaps THE leading NFL draft expert in the country.


Rick Gosselin Dallas Morning News
NFL needs to challenge the rulings on the field
07:19 PM CST on Thursday, December 27, 2007


I’ve never been a fan of the concept of full-time officials in the NFL. I’ve long believed that human error is part of sports. If and when the NFL gets perfect players, then get perfect officials.

But I’m coming off that stance.

The inconsistency of the officiating each weekend needs to be addressed. There are 17 officiating crews and what one sees as offensive holding, another may not. What one sees as illegal contact, another may not.

The crews rotate each week. They rarely see the same team twice in a season. They may be assigned to a game in Miami one week, Buffalo the next and St. Louis the next. But the bottom line is they are all watching the same 32 teams in the same 31 buildings on the same weekends over the same four months.

Yet why do these crews see the games so differently?

The crew of referee Ron Winter has worked 14 of the 16 NFL weekends this season. His crew has doled out 204 penalties for 1,487 yards. The crew of Gerry Austin also has worked 14 of the 16 NFL weekends. His crew has doled 118 penalties for 1,045 yards. How is it possible that one crew can assess 86 more penalties for 442 more yards than another crew?

Of the 16 NFL weekends thus far, Winter’s crew has officiated the high-penalty game in five of them. No other crew has officiated more than two high-penalty games. There have been only nine 20-penalty games in 2007, and Winter’s crew has officiated three of them. Six times, Winter’s crew has assessed at least 10 penalties against one team on a given weekend. That’s a league-high.

Austin’s crew has assessed 10 penalties against a team only once in 2007. There have been only three games this season when a team was not assessed any penalties – and Austin’s crew worked two of them. His crew has officiated the low-penalty game in four of the 16 weekends. No other crew has officiated more than two of the low-penalty games.

Terry McAulay’s crew has worked 14 games, and the home team has won 11 of them. His crew has called 29 more penalties against the road teams for 239 more yards than the home teams. League-wide, there have been 170 more penalties called against the road teams for 1,411 more yards than home teams.

The NFL has 125 officials, and working football games is a weekend job for most of them. During the week they are teachers, administrators, bankers, CPAs and probation officers. On Saturdays, they head out for NFL games. On Monday, they return to their day jobs.

It may be time for the NFL to hire full-time officials. Have them live in a central location – Dallas, for instance. Or Kansas City. Or Omaha. The where doesn’t really matter.

They would work games on Sundays, then return to home base on Monday. Then I’d have them spend Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays in the classroom. Group all the back judges together, all the line judges, field judges, back judges, umpires and so on and have them study games tapes, just like NFL teams do.

Then instruct each group what a penalty is. This is offensive holding, this is not. This is pass interference, this is not. This is illegal contact, this is not. Maybe if every set of eyes can agree what a penalty is on Wednesday, they’ll call it the same way on Sunday.

NFL teams strive for consistency each week. The NFL ought to demand the same out of its officials.

Here’s a chart of penalties by each crew this season. Each crew is identified by its referee, listing the numbers of games, penalties and yards:


Crew.........Games.........Penalties........Yards
Winter........14.....................204.......... .....1,487
Corrente....14.....................188............ ...1,515
Hochuli......15.....................184........... ....1,399
Anderson ..14....................181...............1,388
Boger..........14....................178.......... .....1,352
Parry............14....................171........ .......1,421
McAulay.......14....................169........... ....1,345
Carey...........14....................167......... ......1,248
Leavy...........14....................162 ..............1,238
Coleman.....14....................154 .............1,142
Steratore.....14....................153........... ...1,159
Green...........14...................151.......... .....1,304
Nemmers....14...................149............... 1,271
Triplette........14...................145......... ......1,069
Morelli...........14..................137......... .......1,077
Carollo..........14..................135.......... ......1,002
Austin ...........14..................118................ 1,045


Winter’s crew, by the way, also called an NFL-high 208 penalties in 2006. And Corrente’s crew was selected to work the Super Bowl last February.

Mosca
01-07-2008, 02:41 PM
You know, with video and communication technology becoming cheaper and better almost week by week, what would prevent having a camera on each player, and an audio signal into the ear of the officials? Holding would definitely have to be redefined, of course, because there is holding on every play.... But, when a penalty is called, the film of the infraction can go onto the jumbotron, and everyone can say, "Oh, yeah. I see, he had his arm wrapped."

Getting it right would be easy, but the powers that be don't want to get it right. They like it messy, because controversy breeds interest.

MasterOfPuppets
01-07-2008, 04:48 PM
Terry McAulay?s crew has worked 14 games, and the home team has won 11 of them. His crew has called 29 more penalties against the road teams for 239 more yards than the home teams. League-wide, there have been 170 more penalties called against the road teams for 1,411 more yards than home teams. :wtf:......i guess they tried to "balance it out" on saturday night.....

steelers2685
01-07-2008, 05:13 PM
Calling penalties based on video would ultimately slow the game down because there is so much that goes on every play.

If nothing else, I have two suggestions:

1. why not simply allow coaches to challenge key penalties in addition to what they are already permitted to. In my mind, why is it not OK for officials to review such calls as the 'push out' of WInslow verses the Cardinals, or the 'holding' call called against the Steelers, or the MANY MANY MANY calls that were called against the Patriots involving opposing cornerbacks 'interfering with' the receiver, even though Moss can push off every play.

2. Allow an official, rotating each week amongst refereeing staffs, to be able to call plays. Do not allow on the field refs to make the calls from challenges, but rather allow the booth to handle it and permit the on the field refs to simply refer the message. Again, where refs have different opinions about holdings, who's to say that once a member of a ref'ing staff makes a call on the field the referee himself isn't going into the booth knowing he's going to keep the play anyways. In the instance of hte Ravens game, officials upstairs would have made the appropriate call had they been allowed to make the ruling. I just know it.

I love the idea of full-time refs, and i'm sure there would be many qualified applicants to be getting in that close to the action. Before I read this, I never knew they were just part-time!

Rhee Rhee
01-11-2008, 02:51 AM
LLT... this is some amazing stufff.... u may not have wrote it but still idk where u find this.. good read

stlrtruck
01-11-2008, 03:52 PM
I'd go for educating the individuals who perpetrate false penalties or completely forget to call one. I mean I can't imagine what type of game we would watch if the referees actually understood the rules to the game.

steelers2685
01-13-2008, 02:33 PM
Yet again, as evidence in the Colts game today, that rulings should be challenged.

That phenomenal return by Cromarte was erased due to a 'holding' call that was bogus. I cannot stand how that was holding in this game but in the game last night the same thing took place and it wasn't called time and time again. The differing opinions of referees sure are taking excitement away anymore. It just seems like on the play I've mentioned they're looking for something, ya know?

STEELtownHAVOX
01-13-2008, 02:35 PM
Yet again, as evidence in the Colts game today, that rulings should be challenged.

That phenomenal return by Cromarte was erased due to a 'holding' call that was bogus. I cannot stand how that was holding in this game but in the game last night the same thing took place and it wasn't called time and time again. The differing opinions of referees sure are taking excitement away anymore. It just seems like on the play I've mentioned they're looking for something, ya know?

that would definitely get overturned if this were the case. t-t-terrible call

BlastFurnace
01-13-2008, 02:39 PM
Yet again, as evidence in the Colts game today, that rulings should be challenged.

That phenomenal return by Cromarte was erased due to a 'holding' call that was bogus. I cannot stand how that was holding in this game but in the game last night the same thing took place and it wasn't called time and time again. The differing opinions of referees sure are taking excitement away anymore. It just seems like on the play I've mentioned they're looking for something, ya know?

It's calls like that...that make you wonder. The NFL wants NE/Indy in the worst way.

That was a terrible call.

steelers2685
01-13-2008, 09:51 PM
It's calls like that...that make you wonder. The NFL wants NE/Indy in the worst way.

That was a terrible call.

Same with the Hines catch recently and ESPECIALLY the Winslow catch at the end of the AZ game that was dubbed 'unreviewable'. Ridiculous. So many memorable plays anymore are being washed away.

steelers2685
01-13-2008, 10:57 PM
Interesting from ESPN on the rules and regulations, labeled as a must read under the 2007 NFL Playoffs section:

The football referee in the sandwich-shop commercial steps forward, turns on his microphone and delivers a comical admission to an imaginary crowd:

"I totally blew that call. In fact, it wasn't even close. But don't worry, I'll penalize the other team for no good reason in the second half, to even things up."


Suffice to say, that one did not come from Mike Pereira's office. Pereira, the NFL's officiating director, does have a sense of humor, however. He still chuckles over the elaborate presentations people sent to him following the famous Music City Miracle play during the Buffalo-Tennessee playoff game in January 2000.



Frank Wycheck's lateral to Titans teammate Kevin Dyson resulted in Dyson breaking free for the winning 75-yard touchdown on a kick return in the final seconds. The Bills challenged the ruling, raising the first big test for replay since its return to the NFL earlier that season.



The lines between "reviewable" and "nonreviewable" plays as instant replay applies remained murky this regular season, presenting the prospect of more historic controversy this postseason. A few plays from Cleveland Browns games alone drove home the point that the application -- or non-application -- of replay still can lead to surprises.


Few plays were as surprising as the Music City Miracle.



"Despite all of the engineers and everybody that sent me diagrams about how it was logistically impossible for that ball to be either parallel or backwards, it was a lateral," Pereira said this week.

"You should have seen the things I got, the videos people made to describe flight of ball combined with the velocity of the wind at that point and how the rotation of the ball that would have caused this degree of variation. That was a good one."


While the ruling stood as called, the league periodically revisits replay, looking for ways to improve an imperfect system. Avoiding a mistake during the playoffs is a top priority, but any sport with a 132-page rulebook, 22 players and an oblong ball is bound to produce unanticipated situations.


Non-reviewable calls
Here are nine types of plays the NFL lists as falling outside the scope of replay review.
1. Status of the clock
2. Proper down
3. Penalty administration
4. Runner ruled down by defensive contact (not involving fumbles)
5. Forward progress not relating to first down or goal line
6. Forceouts
7. Recovery of loose ball in the field of play
8. Field goals
9. Inadvertent whistle


Even correct rulings can confuse fans not fully versed in, say, the finer points of Rule 3, Section 21, Article 2. That would be the no-longer-obscure tuck rule that helped New England against Oakland in January 2002.



Referee Walt Coleman used replay to turn Tom Brady's apparent fumble into an incomplete pass, helping New England claim a hard-fought victory in the AFC divisional round. The Patriots won a Super Bowl for the first time a few weeks later.



Coleman got it right according to the letter of the rules, but the most memorable replay situation in NFL history generated controversy among those who thought they knew a fumble when they saw one.



"When a player is holding the ball to pass it forward," the tuck rule states, "any intentional movement forward of his hand starts a forward pass, even if the player loses possession of the ball as he is attempting to tuck it back toward his body."



Another unusual and perhaps unprecedented situation arose during the Cleveland-Cincinnati game two weeks ago. That one avoided widespread detection because the stakes were lower and the play's impact was negligible. But a similar situation in the playoffs conceivably could have an impact on the distance of a late field goal try.


The confusion unfolded when Bengals return man Glenn Holt fielded and returned a short kickoff after a teammate signaled for a fair catch. Cincinnati was not entitled to a return in that situation, but that was the easy part.



"It caught us so by surprise that by the time we got it shut down, we lost track of where the spot was, where the second guy actually caught it," Pereira said, "and as it turns out, we mis-spotted it by about three yards."




The Browns tried to challenge the spot, but when referee Gerald Austin went to look at the play, replay official James Wilson reminded him that the unusual sequence was not subject to review.



"Touching of the kick is reviewable," Pereira explained, "but the actual spot of the end of the kick is not reviewable."


Therein lies one of the more confounding and controversial aspects of replay. If the goal is to get calls right, why not try to get every call right? Why place limits on what is reviewable?

"That is the object of replay, to get the call right, not to decide whether you can review this or whether you can review that," former Green Bay Packers general manager Ron Wolf said. "You have a tool; use it."

As the rulebook states, nonreviewable plays include but are not limited to: status of the clock, proper down, penalty administration, runner ruled down by defensive contact (not involving fumbles), forward progress not relating to first down or goal line, forceouts, recovery of loose ball in the field of play, field goals and inadvertent whistles.

Such limitations do not prevent a referee from using replay to rule on situations outside the scope of what was challenged on the play in question. A coach might challenge the ruling on a fumble, for example, only to have the referee determine the pass was incomplete. Everything reviewable is fair game during every replay.

Referees also can use replay to assess penalties for 12 men on the field, the illegal touching of a pass, the illegal touching of a kick and passing the ball after crossing the line of scrimmage. But if a referee discovers during the course of replay that a cornerback illegally struck a defenseless receiver, he has no recourse because such plays are not reviewable.

"If you tried to get into a fix-all once you were in there, then you get into the area of pass interference, holding and all those other areas that you don't want to be," Pereira said.

"What you want to do is try to deal with plays that involve judgments on a set of facts. Did he get the second foot down inbounds? Did he break the plane? Those types of things."


Three situations could create controversy during the playoffs (coincidentally, all three had an impact on games involving the Browns this season):



1. Spotting the ball in relation to first downs.
Some coaches think replay officials have become too aggressive in challenging spots in relation to first downs. Seattle lost a Week 9 game in Cleveland after replay assistant Al Hynes challenged the spot following Matt Hasselbeck's 8-yard scramble on a third-and-8 play in overtime. Referee Gene Steratore ultimately ruled Hasselbeck down after a 7-yard gain, leading to a Seattle punt and the winning possession for Cleveland.


A similar situation affected the Indianapolis-San Diego game in Week 10.

Spotting the ball in relation to first downs is clearly reviewable, but the practice could draw additional scrutiny in the offseason.

"It seems like I'm beginning to see more challenges of the spot of the ball in relation to the first down, which is a difficult one to judge because you are not dealing with precise lines," Pereira said.


2. Determining whether defenders forced receivers out of bounds.


The forceout rule might be the toughest to enforce. Prevailing opinion has considered forceouts too subjective for review. The league doesn't want referees using replay to guess whether a defender pushed a receiver hard enough to carry him out of bounds. This rule is sure to draw additional scrutiny during the offseason.


Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren, a former member of the competition committee, is among those who have pushed to include forceouts on the list of reviewable plays.

"We were always able to challenge lines -- the sideline, the goal line, the end line -- and that play is very much dealing with a line and a foot," Holmgren said. "I always thought that would be a very reviewable-type replay play; in fact, much easier to call on film than in the heat of battle."

In Week 13, referee Jerome Boger's crew disallowed a potential Browns touchdown by ruling tight end Kellen Winslow out of bounds on a play that would have tied and probably won a game against Arizona. The Browns narrowly missed the playoffs despite a 10-6 record this season.

3. Determining whether a field goal should be allowed. Reviewing all field goals probably isn't realistic because definitive camera angles remain elusive, but another 2007 play involving the Browns could precipitate changes in how replay applies -- or, in the current situation, does not apply -- to the NFL's three-point plays.

Phil Dawson's tying field goal try against Baltimore in Week 11 struck the gooseneck atop the support post before bouncing back through the uprights. Referee Peter Morelli communicated with replay official Howard Slavin before announcing, correctly, that the field goal was good. Moreilli said replay was never used. An NFL spokesman later said the league would consider opening similar plays for review in future seasons.

steelers2685
01-13-2008, 10:58 PM
continued...


Memorable replay situations in playoff games

1. The Tuck Rule. Raiders at Patriots. Jan. 19, 2002. AFC Divisional Game
Foxborough Stadium
Oakland led, 13-10, in the final two minutes. Raiders cornerback Charles Woodson appeared to sack New England quarterback Tom Brady, forcing a fumble that teammate Greg Biekert recovered. Replay assistant Rex Stuart challenged the play. Referee Walt Coleman determined Brady's arm was moving forward when the ball came loose. Brady appeared to be attempting to pull back the ball, but the quarterback's perceived intent wasn't reviewable. Coleman, following the letter of the rule, changed the ruling to an incomplete pass. The Patriots drove toward the tying field goal before scoring on the first possession of overtime. The Raiders were livid.


2. The Music City Miracle. Bills at Titans. Jan. 8, 2000. AFC Wild-Card Game
Adelphia Coliseum
Bills kicker Steve Christie gave his team a one-point lead in the final 20 seconds by making a 41-yard field goal, but the game was far from over. Titans tight end Frank Wycheck lateraled the ensuing kickoff to receiver Kevin Dyson, who broke loose for the winning 75-yard touchdown return. Buffalo challenged the play, claiming Wycheck's lateral was actually an illegal forward pass. Upon review, the ruling stood as called. The Bills did not agree.

3. The Polamalu Interception. Steelers at Colts. Jan. 15, 2006. AFC Divisional Game
RCA Dome
Pittsburgh safety Troy Polamalu picked off Indianapolis' Peyton Manning with 5:33 remaining in the fourth quarter. The Steelers were protecting a 21-10 lead, but Indy was driving. Colts coach Tony Dungy challenged the ruling. Video evidence seemed to show Polamalu making a clean interception, but referee Peter Morelli reversed the call, ruling an incomplete pass. The Colts scored on the drive, but Pittsburgh prevailed, 21-18. Morelli had ruled in error, the league later admitted.

4. The Romo Play. Cowboys at Seahawks. Jan. 6, 2007. NFC Wild-Card Game
Qwest Field


The game made Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo famous for fumbling the snap on a chip-shot field goal, allowing the Seahawks to escape with an improbable victory. But that play might never have happened if replay official Dale Hamer hadn't challenged the spot on Jason Witten's reception one play earlier. Referee Walt Anderson changed a 7-yard gain on third-and-7 to a 6-yard gain, setting up fourth down with 1:19 remaining. This was the right call, Pereira said.


5. The Unhappy Return. Titans at Colts. Jan. 16, 2000. AFC Divisional Game, RCA Dome

One week after the Music City Miracle, another favorable replay ruling helped Tennessee advance. This one turned Terrence Wilkins' 87-yard punt return to the Tennessee 3 into a 24-yard return to the Indianapolis 34. Tennessee was protecting a 16-9 early in the fourth quarter when Wilkins broke free. Titans' kicker Al Del Greco helped to convince coach Jeff Fisher to challenge the play, maintaining Wilkins had stepped out of bounds. It was a decision that helped the Titans take another step in their improbable Super Bowl season. The reversal was the right call, the Colts agreed.

jjpro11
01-13-2008, 11:11 PM
i am personally getting sick of all the reviews.. especially this year when the refs have screwed those up as well.. holmes catch last week and the 2 replays in the browns-cardinals game off the top of my head.

Preacher
01-13-2008, 11:54 PM
You know...

I have no problem with the refs being hired on full time. I also like the idea of them all going into a room on Tuesday and Wednesday and watching tape of all the games. Then Thursday and Friday, they practice.... watching old tape, college tape, etc. and making calls on the spot, then talking about it.

Sure, there will be differences, however, I think it would really balance out the calls.