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PisnNapalm
01-25-2008, 08:36 PM
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=680

Forgive me, for I have sinned.

An About Face After Being Saved by a Gun Owner

Sent in by Brian Clifford, from his Dear Friend

I am one of those people who you loathe. One of those invisible people who come into your living room without asking your permission. One of those people who follow you while you shop, and make it harder for you to make legal purchases. One of those people who try and tell you how to raise your children, as if you don't know how. One of those who gives ratings to stations that promote our demise as a free nation. I am your enemy. Or at least I was.

I followed it all, all of the propaganda, all of the hoopla. Believed it too. Believed that leaving my house was more dangerous than being in a war. At any given moment one of you evil gun owners would open fire on me. I saw the NRA stickers, the Gun owners of America stickers on the cars that passed, and I thought you were all fools. I did everything in my power financially to try and help more laws pass that would prevent you from owning guns. I wholeheartedly believed that only the Police, and Military should have guns. Every time I heard of a gang shooting, or other criminal act committed with a gun, I honestly believed that if we could curtail the legal sale of guns, we could make a difference.

Boy was I wrong.

I have children, three actually, and to me the only thing more important than raising them properly, was seeing that they aren't hurt in anyway. I wanted to ban guns, save my children, save all children. No child should have to be part of any kind of death, especially the kind that involves being shot. I gave money to all of the anti gun organizations I could think of, went to the "Million" Mom March, even looked at Rosie when she spoke, and actually admire her. Brought the kids as well, and even yelled some not so nice things to those other marchers. I'm sure some of you know who I refer to.

I was on my way back from the march, on my way back to Connecticut, when I stopped off of the highway at a rest stop by one of those McDonalds they have off I-95. By this time I had dropped off two of my kids with their father, and only had my little one with me. I went into the restroom with her, and on my way out noticed two men hanging out by my car. There were only two other cars in the lot at the time that were anywhere near my vehicle. I immediately felt threatened by their demeanor, but continued on to my car. The smaller of the two approached me with a knife as I was about to open the door to put my child in her car seat. He yelled at me to get in the back of the car, they were taking me for a little ride. I obviously told them to just take my keys, they could have the car, but they insisted I get in the back. I then heard a man yelling something I don't quite recall, and saw him running towards me with a gun in his hand. The two men vanished into their car, and sped away. I stood there frozen in time, and by the time the gentleman with the gun got to me I just broke down and cried.

To make a long story short, you were all right, and I'm sorry. This man with a gun saved me, and I just keep thinking if I had gotten my wish and guns were banned, there is no telling where I'd be, and what would've happened to my daughter. The only regret I have is not getting the man's phone number who saved my life. I thanked him over and over again, and told him that he saved me, but he calmly said to me something I'd never forget. He said "That's what people like me are here for Ms., and I'm happy to have been able to help."

"That's what people like me are here for," those words keep on running through my head everyday. Maybe this gentleman by some chance is part of your group, and will read my message. If he does I would just like to say something to him, and to everyone else reading this note.

Thank you for saving my life, and to the rest of you thank you for fighting for this man's right to protect me and my child. Tell him for me that I will no longer be part of the group who invades his home, and tries to tell him how to store his guns. Tell him I will never be part of any group who tries to make it impossible for him to buy his tool he used to save me. And tell him I will never again tell him how to raise his children properly, because obviously I was oblivious to the fact that responsible people such as him know how to raise their children better than I do. I did rectify that situation the other day; I bought a shotgun for home protection, and am in the process of getting my concealed permit. Next time I will be ready to defend myself, or others for that matter. Some of my friends think I'm crazy, but they try their best to understand. I just tell them that as soon as their child's life is put in jeopardy by some criminal with a weapon that they will understand, but until then don't tell me how to live my life. I've lost some friends, but surprisingly most of them understand. If not for this man I could very easily have been killed or raped, and my child could've been taken from me, so once more I need to say thanks for saving me, and with all sincerity to the rest of you, forgive me, for I have sinned.

Jeremy
01-25-2008, 08:39 PM
Awesome story...thanks for the find.

GBMelBlount
01-25-2008, 08:42 PM
Wow! Great story. Thanks PN.

steelergirl07
01-25-2008, 08:43 PM
Great story.

PisnNapalm
01-25-2008, 08:44 PM
Call me soft but it brought a tear to my eye. The thought of anything bad happening to my kids just gets to me.

What else is kind of sad is that something so bad had to happen to her in order for her to understand why some people choose to carry a gun for protection.

GBMelBlount
01-25-2008, 09:00 PM
Call me soft but it brought a tear to my eye. The thought of anything bad happening to my kids just gets to me.

What else is kind of sad is that something so bad had to happen to her in order for her to understand why some people choose to carry a gun for protection.

When guns are outlawed crime and murder almost always increases.

Jeremy
01-25-2008, 09:02 PM
When guns are outlawed crime and murder usualy increases.

Not true. Murder in New York City is at it's lowest level since the 1960s. But they also have a strong police presence which helps keep people from getting stupid.

GBMelBlount
01-25-2008, 09:10 PM
Not true. Murder in New York City is at it's lowest level since the 1960s. But they also have a strong police presence which helps keep people from getting stupid.

It is definitely true. Please read EXACTLY what I said.

Increasing police and payroll by over 7,000 X $40,000 = hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars thankfully decreased crime in NY. I think gun ownership and honoring the 2nd amendment is cheaper and would have positive results as well. Also that is the rare exception and it is not the norm when ceteris paribus.

Jeremy
01-25-2008, 09:29 PM
It is definitely true. Please read EXACTLY what I said.

Increasing police and payroll by over 7,000 X $40,000 = $28 MILLION dollars should obviously decrease crime in NY. I think gun ownership and honoring the 2nd amendment is cheaper and would have positive results as well. Also that is the rare exception and it is not the norm when ceteris paribus.

When guns are outlawed crime and murder almost always increases.

New York proved you statement wrong.

If you had said almost always, then you would have been 100% correct.

GBMelBlount
01-25-2008, 09:39 PM
New York proved you statement wrong.

If you had said almost always, then you would have been 100% correct.


Thank you for proving that what I said is 100% correct. By the way, it is obvious you are nit picking and trying to make this personal.

Jeremy
01-25-2008, 09:40 PM
Thank you for proving that what I said is 100% correct. By the way, it is obvious you are nit picking and trying to make this personal.

My bad, I misread your first post.

GBMelBlount
01-25-2008, 09:45 PM
My bad, I misread your first post.

Actually it is not your bad. You probably read my first post in the 30 seconds before I edited it. I said it as an absolute & realized that it was wrong & edited it.

Jeremy
01-25-2008, 09:57 PM
Actually it is not your bad. You probably read my first post in the 30 seconds before I edited it. I said it as an absolute & realized that it was wrong & edited it.

OK...well then no harm and no foul.

tony hipchest
01-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Actually it is not your bad. You probably read my first post in the 30 seconds before I edited it. I said it as an absolute & realized that it was wrong & edited it.
:busted: :wink02: :chuckle:

im glad to live in a state where you can still wear a gun on your hip. odd that you need a lisence to conceal it.

Preacher
01-26-2008, 03:31 AM
:busted: :wink02: :chuckle:

im glad to live in a state where you can still wear a gun on your hip. odd that you need a lisence to conceal it.

Yeah...

and I live in California.

So sad.

TroysBadDawg
01-26-2008, 07:41 AM
If anyone lives in Ohio, I am willing to give the CCW course for free, you cover the costs of the books. I think all should be able to carry. If you live outside of Ohio and they will recognize the NRA Personal Protection Course for a CCW where you live the same applies if you come here, otherwise pay my travel expenses and for the books and the course is still free.

And yes I carry most of the time.

IF there is a gun in your house, teach your wife how to use it, or your husband as case may be.

GBMelBlount
01-26-2008, 08:11 AM
Troys Bad Dawg + Gun = Run for your ******* Life!!!!!!!

Polamalu Princess
01-26-2008, 11:51 AM
I am a woman and I have carried a 38 or 9mm since I was 21. I feel blessed that I am able to protect my family and myself carrying my gun 24/7. Great post!

steelergirl07
01-26-2008, 05:13 PM
My husband wants to get one for me. Does anyone know the WA rules on owning a gun? Or carrying it?

Preacher
01-26-2008, 05:17 PM
My husband wants to get one for me. Does anyone know the WA rules on owning a gun? Or carrying it?

If you are going to get a gun for protection... you might as well get a CWP (concealed weapons permit) as well. Washington is pretty good with those. I think it takes a background check, a gun class, and one or two other things. However, make sure the rules are not changed when it comes to your county or city.

However, you have to ask yourself a couple other questions.

1. Can I seriously pull a gun and use to kill someone? If you think you would hesitate... dont get one. The perp. will reach up, take it away from you and use it on you.

2. Are you wiling to carry it in a FAG bag? (Fast Action Gun bag) You do NOT want to carry it in your purse, as by the time you reach in to get it, the perp again will take it away from you and use it. FAGbags sit around your waste like fanny packs.

steelergirl07
01-26-2008, 05:26 PM
If you are going to get a gun for protection... you might as well get a CWP (concealed weapons permit) as well. Washington is pretty good with those. I think it takes a background check, a gun class, and one or two other things. However, make sure the rules are not changed when it comes to your county or city.

However, you have to ask yourself a couple other questions.

1. Can I seriously pull a gun and use to kill someone? If you think you would hesitate... dont get one. The perp. will reach up, take it away from you and use it on you.

2. Are you wiling to carry it in a FAG bag? (Fast Action Gun bag) You do NOT want to carry it in your purse, as by the time you reach in to get it, the perp again will take it away from you and use it. FAGbags sit around your waste like fanny packs.


Thanks for the info. I wouldn't hesitate. If it came down to him versus me, I will do everything I can to come out on top. And I hate purses, so I would use a FAGbag.

Preacher
01-26-2008, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the info. I wouldn't hesitate. If it came down to him versus me, I will do everything I can to come out on top. And I hate purses, so I would use a FAGbag.

I think there are a couple cops on this board...

ask them what the best FAGbag is.

Man, sometimes I wish I lived in Washington again. I refuse to own a gun in California, because I don't want to be put on a gun list.... and then move to another state and have it follow me in the future (yeah, I grew up in Eastern Washington... Ruby Ridge was murder and is STILL on my mind).

PisnNapalm
01-26-2008, 07:39 PM
Forget the FAGbag.... Get yourself a nice holster and wear the gun on your hip.

GBMelBlount
01-26-2008, 07:50 PM
I think there are a couple cops on this board...

ask them what the best FAGbag is.



I know Tom Brady swears by his FAGbag. I think I read where he has a closet full of them to match his different outfits. In that same article it mentioned he preferred the FAGbag over his man purses because in his man purses his gun frequently became entangled in his spare man thongs.

Preacher
01-26-2008, 11:37 PM
Forget the FAGbag.... Get yourself a nice holster and wear the gun on your hip.

Nice thing about a FAGbag, is your not inviting problems by broadcasting you have a gun.

Most people who know what a FAGbag is and can recognize it, also recognize that by having one, you are not "broadcasting." You just want to protect yourself.