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83-Steelers-43
02-11-2008, 09:21 AM
Very scary incident last night in the NHL. Richard Rednik took a skate to the neck. Oddly enough, it was against Buffalo, the same team Malarchuk played for when his throat was cut by a skate back in 1989.

Last reported, he is in stable condition....

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Link to story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3240117

Borski
02-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Very scary incident last night in the NHL. Richard Rednik took a skate to the neck. Oddly enough, it was against Buffalo, the same team Malarchuk played for when his throat was cut by a skate back in 1989.

Last reported, he is in stable condition....

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Link to story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3240117

all I can say is, wow.

I am glad he is ok, that is the worst thing I have ever seen in sports.

83-Steelers-43
02-11-2008, 04:48 PM
all I can say is, wow.

I am glad he is ok, that is the worst thing I have ever seen in sports.

This is the worst thing I have ever seen in sports....

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The Duke
02-11-2008, 04:55 PM
man, that's just terrible

people in buffalo must've been really scared after the whole kevin everet thing

I had hear about the Malarchuk one but had never seen it, thanks for posting it

SteelCityMan786
02-11-2008, 05:04 PM
I'm stunned to hear about the whole thing with Zidnik. He's a helluva hockey player. All the best to him in his recovery.

TroysBadDawg
02-11-2008, 09:58 PM
here is the link (http://publicbroadcasting.net/wned/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1226388&sectionID=1)

BUFFALO (2008-02-11) A member of the Florida Panthers is resting comfortably at Buffalo General Hospital after suffering a serious injury during Sunday night's game against the Sabres at HSBC Arena.

Richard Zednik suffered a severe cut to the neck when a teammate's skate struck him. The injury caused blood to spurt from his neck, covering the ice.

Zednik made it to the bench on his own before being helped off the ice.

Trainers and doctors treated Zednik before he was taken by ambulance to the hospital.

The incident stunned both teams and spectators. The crowd was mostly silent during a 15 minute delay in the game. Fans cheered when it was announced that Zednik was in stable condition and was being transported to the hospital.

The Sabres won the game 5-3.

Even as a trainer for a hockey team I never saw anything like that. I know the skates are like as sharp as knives, but that is seriously scary.

Gruesome Zednik injury sparks talk of neck protection for NHLers

4 hours ago

Richard Zednik's blood-dripping trek to the bench Sunday night certainly hit home for Trent McCleary.

The former Montreal Canadiens player saw the images on his TV screen and couldn't help but think of his own experience, when he was left battling for his life after taking a slapshot in the throat.

"All of sudden I was flooded with memories," McLeary told The Canadian Press on Monday. "It's frightening."

McLeary, now an investment adviser in Swift Current, Sask., still has trouble breathing and some of his vocal cords are permanently damaged.

But he's happy just to be alive after the January 2000 incident in Montreal. For that he has repeatedly thanked the Canadiens' medical and training staff on hand that day at the Bell Centre.

"And yet again it was the case with Richard last night, and it was the same with Clint Malarchuk's incident (in 1989) and my incident, the medical staff and the people that work in the buildings are just phenomenal," said the 35-year-old McLeary, whose career ended on the play. "They're amazing and they potentially saved his life."

Zednik was listed in stable condition in the intensive care unit at Buffalo General Hospital on Monday. The Florida Panthers forward required life-saving surgery after severing his carotid artery when the skate of teammate Olli Jokinen came up and cut him in the throat.

The incident, replayed on TV screens around North America, could possibly have been less serious had Zednik been wearing a neck protector - a must for players in minor hockey in Canada but a rarity for NHLers.

"There was an incident in Sweden over 10 years ago where the guy passed away with kind of the same type of injury and neck guards were made mandatory in the Swedish league for a while," Toronto Maple Leafs captain Mats Sundin recalled Monday.

"We're out there and the skates are certainly like knives on our feet and you've got to be aware out there. ... There's always freak accidents like that. You have to be aware that the skates are very dangerous."

Just as visors aren't mandated in the NHL, neither are neck protectors. That's the jurisdiction of the NHL Players' Association and the union has always respected its members' desire for individual choice when it comes to protection.

"We are pleased by the positive medical reports on Richard and are hopeful for his quick recovery," NHLPA executive director Paul Kelly said in a statement Monday. "The NHLPA will review this matter in detail and will continue to ensure that our members are fully educated about all aspects of on-ice safety."

Despite the gruesome nature of Zednik's incident, one would be hard-pressed to find many NHLers wanting to mandate neck protectors, wanting instead to reserve the right to decide how much protection they want to wear.

Veteran goalie Olaf Kolzig of the Washington Capitals, while very concerned for his former teammate Zednik, echoed that sentiment.

"You know what, it's hockey," Kolzig told The Canadian Press. "When was the last time this happened? Freak things happen, whether it's sports or whether you're walking across the street and you get hit by a car. That's life. You can't protect against everything. That was just such a freakish play.

"It should be left up to the players. It's a dangerous sport, you can't protect them from everything. It's just fortunate that he's OK."

Veteran centre Jeremy Roenick of the San Jose Sharks agreed with Kolzig and said you can't totally protect players in such a violent sport.

"We play this game for the love of it and we play it knowing the dangers are there," said Roenick. "It's like a race car driver. You try to make everything safer but somebody's going to get injured in an accident no matter what and they still do it anyway."

Leafs head coach Paul Maurice wonders where the line would be drawn if players were forced to wear neck protectors.

"It's neck guards, then it's going to be full face shields and those all make sense," he said. "Bigger shin pads, bigger shoulder pads, wrap yourself in a mattress and away you go. I mean, I don't know what the end point is. ...

"It's a fast sport with sticks, blades and frozen pucks. There's going to be some bumps and bruises, that's for sure."

McCleary also respects a player's individual choice to decide what kind of protection he wants to wear but wonders if the real change won't come from a third party rather than the NHL and NHLPA.

"The one thing that surprises me is not the NHL or the NHLPA, but insurance companies," said McLeary. "Why wouldn't Lloyd's of London say, 'I will lawyer your personal insurance policy if you wear a visor'? Then see how many guys put visors on."

Zednik's injury was similar to the one Malarchuk suffered in March 1989. The Buffalo Sabres goalie had his jugular vein severed when St. Louis Blues forward Steve Tuttle was upended while skating toward the crease and caught him with a skate. Malarchuk required over 300 stitches but spent only one night in the hospital, playing in a game less than two weeks later.

McCleary nearly died after taking a slapshot from Philadelphia's Chris Therien in the throat in a January 2000 game. He underwent surgery twice to repair a complex fracture of the larynx. Doctors said he would have died had he not had a tracheotomy.

Just like Zednik, McCleary amazingly raced to the bench on the play, which saved valuable seconds.

"Richard had the wherewithal to get to the bench as well," said McCleary. "You think, 'Well, laying on the ice isn't going to do any good.' Once I realized I couldn't breathe, I said, 'I got to get out of here.' You go where the help is. Richard skated 80 feet almost - it's just instinct."

Zednik was skating into the right corner of the Sabres' zone when Jokinen was dumped by Sabres forward Clarke MacArthur. Jokinen fell head-first to the ice, and his right leg flew up and struck Zednik directly on the side of the neck. He clutched his neck while racing to the bench.

"It's one of those things that happens from time to time in the game," said Maple Leafs forward Darcy Tucker. "It's a freak thing. It was nice to see he was able to get off the ice and get the necessary medical stuff looked after and that it didn't cause too much harm."

Said Leafs teammate Matt Stajan, the team's NHLPA player rep: "It took a guy to get flipped upside down and his skates to come flying up into the air for that to happen so to say you've got to make changes and stuff to make it more safe it would be a lot of work. I'm sure people are going to talk about it now.

"The main thing is he's OK. I think it's important for the league to move forward and I think they're going to look into stuff."

Okay I know this is Football, but come on, this could be life threatening injury, who would have thought????

Polamalu Princess
02-11-2008, 10:12 PM
Yes, I did see it - how terrible.

Preacher
02-11-2008, 10:46 PM
This is the worst thing I have ever seen in sports....

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That is EXACTLY what I was thinking about.

The trainer came out... running on the ice while play was still going. That man saved his life.

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We used to have to wear neck guards when we played, the problem is, they simply can not make a guard that properly protects the next. It cannot go up high enough with enough protection yet afford the player enough flexibility in his neck to look around and not get blindsided.


what a shame, I hope Zednik is ok. What a freak accident as well. I can understand rushing the neck, or a tangle in the corner and someone falls, but to just run into a skate like that.... wow.

tony hipchest
02-11-2008, 10:58 PM
1) props to Sportscenter for finding this story worthy of mention (cashing in on the gruesomeness of a story, notwithstanding) within the 1st 58 minutes of the show.

2) props to zednic for immediately recognizing the severity, applying pressure, and skating off the ice.

3) props to the buffalo medical staff (again)

4) props to the florida org. for thanking the buffalo medical team for potentially saving an atheletes life.

its nice to see sportsmanship and concern for your competitor isnt dead.

some people in sports (belichick) would rather see their opposition bleed out on the ice if it meant gaining an advantage w/o actually breaking any written rules.

Borski
02-12-2008, 12:15 AM
We used to have to wear neck guards when we played, the problem is, they simply can not make a guard that properly protects the next. It cannot go up high enough with enough protection yet afford the player enough flexibility in his neck to look around and not get blindsided.
I have two possibilities:

1) Kevlar, if they can make bullet proof vests out of it then they should be able to make a thinner version that still stops hockey blades.

2) Chainmail, yes, it sounds primitive but its exactly what chainmail was designed for and they can put a layer of cushion to it doesn't fell uncomfortable to a players neck.

83-Steelers-43
02-12-2008, 07:02 AM
No idea where the NHL thread went where this was originally discussed, but an update and info on Zednik...

Zednik stable after carotid artery severed in Panthers-Sabres game
Associated Press
Updated: February 11, 2008, 10:33 PM ET

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Florida Panthers forward Richard Zednik lost five units of blood, but doctors never considered his life in jeopardy after the player had his carotid artery nearly severed by a teammate's skate in a freak and frightening accident.

Zednik underwent an hour of surgery to reconnect the artery Sunday night and was listed in stable condition in the intensive care unit at Buffalo General Hospital on Monday. He was awake and cooperative with the medical staff, doctors said.

Attending surgeon Sonya Noor said there were no initial signs of brain damage, which is a fear whenever the coratid artery is clamped. She said clamps were in place for about 15 to 20 minutes during surgery, which she considers a short time.

"So far, he looks very good. He's awake, oriented," said Noor. "He remembers what happened last night."

Zednik was sliced across the right side of the throat by teammate Olli Jokinen's skate midway through the third period of Buffalo's 5-3 victory. Doctors said the skate blade just missed cutting the jugular vein.

The carotid artery supplies blood to the brain, while the jugular vein takes blood from the brain. Blood pressure is much higher in the carotid artery.

Sabres orthopedic surgeon Les Bisson, who attended to Zednik shortly after he got off the ice, said losing five units -- about five pints -- of blood was significant, but "not a lot" for this type of injury.

According to Noor, the slashed artery was "hanging by a thread." She stressed if the artery had been completely severed it would have recessed into the neck, requiring even more extensive surgery.

Prior to surgery, doctors noted that Zednik's blood pressure was dropping, and there was also swelling around the cut making it difficult to breath. Doctors put a tube in his neck to open an airway.

Robert McCormack, the hospital's clinical chief of emergency medicine, said: "We became concerned. He was clearly in shock from blood loss. His heart rate was high, his blood pressure was a bit low."

Vascular surgeon Richard Curl, who assisted Noor, said the cut was about an inch-and-a-half deep and also as wide. Doctors were astonished the skate blade did not hit any other arteries or veins or cause any further damage.

"Luck," was a factor, according to Noor.


Difficult Call

Deciding whether or not to continue to play after Richard Zednik's gruesome injury certainly was not easy. ESPN.com's E.J. Hradek writes that while there may be a little precedent here, it might not apply. Blog

"He might have some hoarseness and that's about it at this point," said Noor, who said Zednik had a "normal, beautiful artery."

The Panthers returned home to South Florida following the game, a flight coach Jacques Martin said was "pretty quiet."

However, Zednik was joined at the hospital by his wife, Jessica, and Karen Cohen, wife of Alan Cohen, who is the Panthers' general partner, chairman of the board and CEO, hospital spokesman Mike Hughes said in a release. The two arrived by charter flight late Sunday night.

Zednik will remain in the ICU at least one more day, but it is uncertain when he will be discharged and allowed to return to Florida, Noor said. It will be six to eight weeks before he can return to normal activity.

"The entire Panthers organization wish to extend their sincere gratitude and appreciation to the medical staff at Buffalo General Hospital, the Buffalo Sabres organization, the HSBC Arena staff and to the Panthers and Sabres fans who have expressed their thoughts and concerns," Panthers assistant general manager Randy Sexton said.

Sexton and Panthers assistant trainer Dave Zenobi stayed overnight with Zednik at the hospital.

Zednik was circling the net behind the play and skating into the corner when Jokinen was upended by Sabres forward Clarke MacArthur. Jokinen fell headfirst to the ice, and his right leg and skate flew up and struck Zednik directly on the side of the neck.

Clutching his neck, Zednik left a trail of blood as he somehow raced three-quarters the length of the ice to the Panthers bench. He nearly fell into the arms of Zenobi, who immediately placed a towel on the player's throat. With the help of defenseman Jassen Cullimore, Zednik was escorted up the tunnel behind the bench and loaded into an ambulance.

Bisson, the Sabres' doctor, said injuries to the carotid artery are potentially fatal, but stressed that was not a concern because Zednik was conscious and responding to commands.

"That could be fatal, but I wouldn't say he was close to death," Bisson said. "If you can stop the bleeding, then you have some time ... I wouldn't say at any point, we're thinking: 'He's going to die now.'"

A 12-year veteran, Zednik is in his first season with the Panthers.

When Zednik was with Montreal he sustained a severe concussion, broken nose, bruised throat and cut eyelid following a vicious blow to the face by Boston's Kyle McLaren during the 2002 playoffs. Zednik was knocked cold, had to be taken off the ice on a stretcher and spent the night in intensive care.

McLaren was suspended by the NHL for the rest of the Eastern Conference quarterfinals, missing the final two games of the series, which Montreal won in six games.

Zednik returned the following season to score a career-high 31 goals and match a career high with 50 points.

He signed with the Panthers as a free agent last summer. After a two-month slump, he has been playing well. He entered the game on a four-game point streak, in which he had six goals and three assists, giving him 26 points (15 goals, 11 assists) in 54 games this season.

"I think he'll be able to continue his career," Martin said. "I think it's too soon to establish a time of his return."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3240651

83-Steelers-43
02-12-2008, 07:02 AM
I find it amazing that this type of injury does not occur more often in the NHL. Scary stuff, great to hear he's doing fine. Hats off to the doctor's involved with the surgery.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0210/nhl_a_spacek_600.jpg

Buffalo defenseman Jaroslav Spacek skates past a trail of blood left when Florida's Richard Zednik hurried off the ice Sunday in Buffalo, N.Y.

HometownGal
02-12-2008, 08:33 AM
No idea where the NHL thread went where this was originally discussed, but an update and info on Zednik...

Don't know why the original thread was in the Locker Room, but I merged the threads.

Thanks for all of the updates. Thank God Zednik is going to be OK. He showed a tremendous amount of fortitude to immediately apply pressure to the laceration and skate to the bench. Thoughts and prayers go out to Richard and his family for a complete recovery.

83-Steelers-43
02-12-2008, 08:48 AM
We used to have to wear neck guards when we played, the problem is, they simply can not make a guard that properly protects the next. It cannot go up high enough with enough protection yet afford the player enough flexibility in his neck to look around and not get blindsided.

Same here. Neck guards and mouth guards were mandatory. Neck guards were a pain in the butt. They were particulary annoying when the second period rolled around and they were soaked by cold water.

No matter the material, comfortability will always be an issue and so will hindering your ability to check behind you. Out of any piece of equipment I had to wear, that thing was the worst.

IMO, at the end of the day, if a player wants to wear a neck guard, that's his choice. It should remain optional and not mandatory, much like a visor or the throat guard Brodeur puts on his goalie helmet....

http://www.nhlhockeyblog.com/pics/martin_brodeur.jpg

This was a freak accident. The last time something like this occured in the NHL was back in 1989. It's not like it occurs once a year or once every five years.

Just my two cents.

83-Steelers-43
02-21-2008, 10:01 PM
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tony hipchest
02-21-2008, 11:06 PM
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i saw him today on sportscenter. he knew how bad it was as soon as it happened. as he skated off the ice he wondered if he would ever see his child again. as the trainers immediately began working on him he knew life could be slipping away and he could be taking his last breath.

from a little cut on his neck that didnt even knock him down, to be looking death in the eye with 100% lucidity. wow.

i got a little woozy just trying to imagine myself in his shoes (skates).

SteelCityMan786
02-21-2008, 11:09 PM
Don't know why the original thread was in the Locker Room, but I merged the threads.

Thanks for all of the updates. Thank God Zednik is going to be OK. He showed a tremendous amount of fortitude to immediately apply pressure to the laceration and skate to the bench. Thoughts and prayers go out to Richard and his family for a complete recovery.

That Buffalo hospital must have been the same one Everett had for his spine. That's 2 lives they have saved.