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lamberts-lost-tooth
02-18-2008, 04:58 AM
Belichick breaks silence on taping

BOSTON (AP) -- Patriots coach Bill Belichick broke his silence on New England's twin taping controversies, denying he told anyone to tape the St. Louis Rams' walkthrough before the 2002 Super Bowl and apologizing for all the attention generated by Spygate.

Belichick also told the Boston Globe he "couldn't pick Matt Walsh out of a lineup." Walsh, a former Patriots employee, reportedly taped St. Louis' walkthrough practice the day before the Patriots beat the Rams 20-17 in the championship.

"In my entire coaching career, I've never seen another team's practice film prior to playing that team," Belichick said in a story posted on the Globe's Web site Sunday night. "I have never authorized, or heard of, or even seen in any way, shape, or form any other team's walkthrough. We don't even film our own."

Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli also told the newspaper that part of the reason Walsh was fired in January 2003 was because he secretly recorded conversations between himself and Pioli.

Michael Levy, Walsh's attorney, said Pioli's account was a "complete fabrication."

"This is a predictable and pathetic effort to smear Mr. Walsh's character rather than confront the truth about the Patriots' conduct," Levy said in the Globe story.

Levy has said his client is willing to turn over videotapes he made for the team if the NFL guarantees Walsh protection from lawsuits or other legal action.

Commissioner Roger Goodell has said he offered Walsh a deal requiring him "to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity, but Levy has said the deal doesn't go far enough.

Goodell fined Belichick $500,000, the Patriots $250,000 and took away a first-round draft choice after the Patriots were caught taping New York Jets' coaches in last year's season opener, a 38-14 New England victory.

Belichick said he misinterpreted the rule, which he felt only prohibited taping that could be used during the same game.

He also apologized for the controversy the taping caused.

"I respect the integrity of the game and always have and always will," he said in the Globe story. "I regret that any of this, or to whatever extent, it has in any way brought that into question or discussion or debate. The decision was made by the commissioner, the practice was immediately stopped, and we're not doing it.

"Just going back over the whole taping incident, if I contacted the league and asked them about the practice, I'm sure they would have told me - as they have done - that it is not permissible. Then I could have avoided all of this.

"I take responsibility for it," he said. "Even though I felt there was a gray area in the rule and I misinterpreted the rule, that was my mistake and we've been penalized for it. I apologize to everybody that is involved - the league, the other teams, the fans, our team, for the amount of conversation and dialogue that it's caused."

The day before the Patriots' 17-14 loss to the New York Giants in this year's Super Bowl, the Boston Herald reported New England taped St. Louis' walkthrough before the first of the Patriots' three Super Bowl victories. In a walkthrough, teams practice plays at a slower pace than normal without pads or helmets.

Patriots spokesman Stacey James did not return phone calls or an e-mail seeking comment Sunday night.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-18-2008, 07:06 AM
He apologizes to everybody involved.... for the amount of conversation and dialogue that it's caused???? WTF?? :dang:

How about apologizing for being a low-down, dirty, ball sucking, scumbag cheater??? (and a poor liar to boot!)

I wonder if this is how this buttclown apologized to his wife for cheating on her....

"I take responsibility for it. Even though I felt there was a gray area in the 'forsaking all others' rule and I misinterpreted the rule, that was my mistake and I have been penalized for it. I apologize to everybody that is involved - my family, my girlfriends family, my wife,and for the amount of conversation and dialogue that it's caused."

"As for the naked married woman that I was seeing...."I couldn't pick her out of a lineup."

Atlanta Dan
02-18-2008, 08:01 AM
Too little too late - even League apologists like Peter King are, in a backhanded way, saying if it takes grandstanding by Specter to get to the bottom of this then so be it - there is enough out there that Belicheat 's conduct must continue to be investigated:

I think if the silly lawsuit filed by the former Rams player we've never heard of, or the rantings of Arlen Specter can get us closer to the bottom of how much the Patriots taped and whether those tapes ever influenced the outcome of a Super Bowl, I'm all for it.

The most significant thing I've read in the last few days came from Dave Goldberg of the Associated Press, who got the attorney of former Patriot video aide Matt Walsh to reveal that Walsh has tapes from his employment with the Patriots. Tapes, plural. This thing will not go to bed until we know what is on those tapes. Which leads us to ...
I think it's inevitable. We've got to hear what Walsh has to say. If we don't, the world will root against Bill Belichick even harder next year (that's hard to imagine) because they'll be sure he's been cheating since 2000, and probably before, and wasn't punished enough by the commissioner.

If we do hear from Walsh, then the book should be closed either way. Either Belichick will get whacked more by Roger Goodell, or the Patriots will be able to say: "See? We really didn't gain an edge taping Super Bowl foes illegally.'' And we can be done with it.

I've said this from the beginning: If an edge was gained in any of the three three-point New England Super Bowl wins, that puts this story on a different level. That's why we must chase every lead to discover if any evidence exists that any of those Super Bowls were compromised. And I don't care what any pooh-poohing coach will say. In my opinion, if a team tapes a walkthrough the day before a Super Bowl, and knows which plays the opposition runs at that walkthrough, it's an advantage. Potentially a big advantage.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/02/17/long/2.html

HometownGal
02-18-2008, 08:29 AM
Well lookie who I found. It's Beliprick* and Goodell.

http://dallapartedichiguida.blogosfere.it/images/pinocchio.png

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-18-2008, 08:30 AM
Well lookie who I found. It's Beliprick* and Goodell.

http://dallapartedichiguida.blogosfere.it/images/pinocchio.png

LMAO!!!

TackleMeBen
02-18-2008, 08:34 AM
HTG,

you come up with some of the most craziest pictures... that is just too funny.

stillers4me
02-18-2008, 08:53 AM
I don't see anything.........................

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-18-2008, 10:05 AM
I love how the Patriots* organization show how crooked they are...from top to bottom... by trying to smear Walsh's name in a preemptory strike.

Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli also told the newspaper that part of the reason Walsh was fired in January 2003 was because he secretly recorded conversations between himself and Pioli.

OHHHHHH...I see. He already HAD a history of secretly taping things...outside of the Patriot * organizations knowledge.

How transparant is that....what a bunch of crooked...slimy...lying...pieces of crap.

rbryan
02-18-2008, 10:30 AM
This story just keeps getting better. Regardless of the final outcome the patsies have been exposed and no one will ever look at them the same again.

Behind closed doors, even the most loyal patsie fans know this.

HometownGal
02-18-2008, 12:03 PM
I don't see anything.........................

It's a picture of Pinocchio with Jiminy Cricket on the end of his nose scolding him. :toofunny:

HometownGal
02-18-2008, 12:16 PM
Ban the guy from the league. I don't know why they even need to keep talking about this.

I mean, if they can ban the 49ers owner over some casino scandal and subsequently destroy the franchise, surely they can throw this idiot out over cheating that, you know, actually affects the game.

It will never happen - Goodell is too comfortable on his knees with Kraft patting him on the head telling him what a good boy he is.

Glace
02-18-2008, 12:44 PM
It will never happen - Goodell is too comfortable on his knees with Kraft patting him on the head telling him what a good boy he is.

Almost makes me wonder how Tagliabue would have handled this situation...

Goodell sure isn't doing much for his image...

TackleMeBen
02-18-2008, 01:00 PM
Originally Posted by HometownGal
It will never happen - Goodell is too comfortable on his knees with Kraft patting him on the head telling him what a good boy he is.

i was going to say something but i am being good..lol

fansince'76
02-18-2008, 01:03 PM
Almost makes me wonder how Tagliabue would have handled this situation...

Goodell sure isn't doing much for his image...

I imagine he'd be handling it much the same way. I don't understand why people think that Tagliabue was such a great commissioner. He wasn't. The thuggery by individual players that Goodell has finally started to crack down on was completely ignored during Tagliabue's tenure, which is a big reason why it has gotten as bad as it has.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-18-2008, 01:06 PM
I imagine he'd be handling it much the same way. I don't understand why people think that Tagliabue was such a great commissioner. He wasn't. The thuggery by individual players that Goodell has finally started to crack down on was completely ignored during Tagliabue's tenure, which is a big reason why it has gotten as bad as it has.

...we need Ditka as commish.

I think it was Collinsworth who asked him what did he like better...being a Football Coach or a Football Analyst....

Ditka said..."You're the Football Analyst...I'm a Football Expert."

polamalu82
02-18-2008, 01:43 PM
I love how the Patriots* organization show how crooked they are...from top to bottom... by trying to smear Walsh's name in a preemptory strike.

How transparant is that....what a bunch of crooked...slimy...lying...pieces of crap.


I thought the exact same thing when I read that article. Just trying to make Walsh look weird and sneaky to discredit him. I hope the Mass-holes get whats coming to them.:tt02:

rbryan
02-18-2008, 02:43 PM
I'll 2nd Ditka for the commish, Goodell was Tagliabue's lackey for years and most of the patsies cheating took place on his watch. If you notice theres not too many people complaining about him not making in the HOF.

rabidsteelerfan
02-18-2008, 02:50 PM
1. Saying "never authorized" and 2. Saying "Walsh secretly taped conversations" clearly sets themselves up for the loyalists to say, "see, Walsh did this all on his own, he's the lone shooter!" or "this Walsh guy was setting up the organization the whole time!"

Let the smearing begin!

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 04:16 PM
1. Saying "never authorized" and 2. Saying "Walsh secretly taped conversations" clearly sets themselves up for the loyalists to say, "see, Walsh did this all on his own, he's the lone shooter!" or "this Walsh guy was setting up the organization the whole time!"

Let the smearing begin!

What do we have to smear? There is no official evidence yet. You guys are the ones living on promises.

fansince'76
02-18-2008, 04:45 PM
There is no official evidence yet. You guys are the ones living on promises.

And what "promises" would those be, exactly? :coffee:

Atlanta Dan
02-18-2008, 04:55 PM
1. Saying "never authorized" and 2. Saying "Walsh secretly taped conversations" clearly sets themselves up for the loyalists to say, "see, Walsh did this all on his own, he's the lone shooter!" or "this Walsh guy was setting up the organization the whole time!"

Let the smearing begin!

It is like McNamee saving syringes with which he injected Clemens - takes a rat to catch a rat - you take your confidential informants as you find them

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 05:01 PM
And what "promises" would those be, exactly? :coffee:

Walsh's word. :coffee::coffee:

Atlanta Dan
02-18-2008, 05:02 PM
What do we have to smear? There is no official evidence yet. You guys are the ones living on promises.

Please walk me through that statement

1. The Pats are smearing Walsh - if he can't hurt them why bother?

2. What is "official evidence"? If it is a sworn statement, that will be coming soon enough. Let's see if Belichick is quite so smug when he makes statements after raising his right hand.

3. What promises are we living on? Goodell apparently was "promised" by the Pats the tapes only went back to 2006 and now tells Specter the tapes went back to 2000 - sounds like Goodell was living on the promises made by the Pats, which were about as flimsy as Mr. Wonderful's pass protection 2 weeks ago.

Denial is a powerful defense mechanism - keep on denying if it helps you endure the shame of being a Pats fan.:smile:

fansince'76
02-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Walsh's word. :coffee::coffee:

Nice try, but I'm among those who think absolutely nothing will come of this outside of another coverup by the lapdog to NFL ownership named Goodell. I'm just enjoying watching the bandwagon squirm and continue to defend the indefensible. :yawn:

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 05:10 PM
Please walk me through that statement

1. The Pats are smearing Walsh - if he can't hurt them why bother?

2. What is "official evidence"? If it is a sworn statement, that will be coming soon enough. Let's see if Belichick is quite so smug when he makes statements after raising his right hand.

3. What promises are we living on? Goodell apparently was "promised" by the Pats the tapes only went back to 2006 and now tells Specter the tapes went back to 2000 - sounds like Goodell was living on the promises made by the Pats, which were about as flimsy as Mr. Wonderful's pass protection 2 weeks ago.

Denial is a powerful defense mechanism - keep on denying if it helps you endure the shame of being a Pats fan.:smile:

No shame in being a Pats fan. I didn't cheat. Right now everything is just speculation. Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

Atlanta Dan
02-18-2008, 05:13 PM
Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

Kind of like living in Berlin in April 1945, eh?:smile:

rbryan
02-18-2008, 05:19 PM
Hammer time.

rbryan
02-18-2008, 05:20 PM
Can't touch this

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 05:22 PM
Hammer time.

http://www.boinaslava.net/mort/wife/hammerzeit.jpg

Atlanta Dan
02-18-2008, 05:24 PM
http://www.boinaslava.net/mort/wife/hammerzeit.jpg
:sofunny::sofunny::sofunny::sofunny::sofunny:

rbryan
02-18-2008, 05:24 PM
Stop me hammer, break it down.

rbryan
02-18-2008, 05:29 PM
http://www.boinaslava.net/mort/wife/hammerzeit.jpg

See coming to the Steeler board was good for something. You figured out how to find and attach pics like that one.... I'm not that advanced yet. lol

HometownGal
02-18-2008, 06:12 PM
No shame in being a Pats fan. I didn't cheat. Right now everything is just speculation. Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

Let's say Walsh isn't telling the truth (which until proven otherwise, I believe he is). Knowing what the entire NFL knows up until this point, how can you honestly not feel any degree of shame supporting a coach* who was caught red-handed videotaping other teams' defensive signals this past season, along with an owner* who didn't toss the cheating SOB out the door on his ass but instead, rewarded him by giving him a hefty contract extension? Do you honestly believe A$$ Chin and other Pats* players didn't know what was going on? :dang:

Dynasty? :toofunny: Sounds more like a travesty to me.

steel striker
02-18-2008, 06:19 PM
No shame in being a Pats fan. I didn't cheat. Right now everything is just speculation. Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

There's a storm coming. :tt02:

polamalu82
02-18-2008, 07:23 PM
No shame in being a Pats fan. I didn't cheat. Right now everything is just speculation. Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

You say nothing has been proven, then why did the NFL fine Bilicheat and the Patriots*? Hell Bilicheat admitted to taping defensive play calls.:banging:

rabidsteelerfan
02-18-2008, 10:34 PM
No shame in being a Pats fan. I didn't cheat. Right now everything is just speculation. Though it's likely true, nothing as been prooved yet so I intent to enjoy this dynasty to the full extent until the hammer falls.

Thank god all that talk of "dynasty" went out the window after they got caught cheating and especially now that they've lost the SB!


"NO SOUP FOR YOU!" (snaps fingers)

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 11:26 PM
Let's say Walsh isn't telling the truth (which until proven otherwise, I believe he is). Knowing what the entire NFL knows up until this point, how can you honestly not feel any degree of shame supporting a coach* who was caught red-handed videotaping other teams' defensive signals this past season, along with an owner* who didn't toss the cheating SOB out the door on his ass but instead, rewarded him by giving him a hefty contract extension? Do you honestly believe A$$ Chin and other Pats* players didn't know what was going on? :dang:

Dynasty? :toofunny: Sounds more like a travesty to me.

Not yet. Because there is still that chance that none of this is true. That's why we have a justice system. Call me a tool. I don't care. I'm going down with the ship. I've always been a Belichick supporter so I owe him the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to believe he has lied to everyone until the truth is revealed and if that makes me a tool then I have nothing to worry about!

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 11:28 PM
Thank god all that talk of "dynasty" went out the window after they got caught cheating and especially now that they've lost the SB!


"NO SOUP FOR YOU!" (snaps fingers)

Oh well, The Patriots' Trilogy sounds much better.

Preacher
02-18-2008, 11:35 PM
Oh well, The Patriots' Trilogy sounds much better.

The Patriots Cheating Trilogy sounds much better

The Patriot
02-18-2008, 11:39 PM
The Patriots Cheating Trilogy sounds much better

Meh. Still tops Steelers Dynasty

Dodt
02-18-2008, 11:41 PM
makes me wonder what would pete rozelle do .

Preacher
02-19-2008, 01:05 AM
Meh. Still tops Steelers Dynasty

Really? In what reality is 3 greater then 4? Hmm.


Or all time... 3 greater then 5. ?

Or back to back.. 1 greater then 2?

Or in appearances 5 greater then 6?

Or in losses, your 2 is better then our 1?

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-19-2008, 04:40 AM
Originally Posted by The Patriot
Meh. Still tops Steelers Dynasty

Really? In what reality is 3 greater then 4? Hmm.


Or all time... 3 greater then 5. ?

Or back to back.. 1 greater then 2?

Or in appearances 5 greater then 6?

Or in losses, your 2 is better then our 1?

9 out of 7 people are bad at math.:tap:

HometownGal
02-19-2008, 08:06 AM
Not yet. Because there is still that chance that none of this is true. That's why we have a justice system. Call me a tool. I don't care. I'm going down with the ship. I've always been a Belichick supporter so I owe him the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to believe he has lied to everyone until the truth is revealed and if that makes me a tool then I have nothing to worry about!

I think you missed my point. Take away the most recent Beliprick* cheating allegations and take a trip down memory lane to Week 1 of this past season when Beliprick* was nailed for taping the Jets' defensive signals. Again - my question is - how can you continue to support a coach* who admitted to cheating in that game as well as admitting to cheating (he "misinterpreted the rules" - riiiiiiight) since he became the Pats* coach in 2000, and an owner* who patted him on the back for his dishonest deeds? Don't you get it that Beliprick* and Kraft* have made a mockery out of the NFL by their actions and in turn, have made fools out of every NFL fan out there, including Pats* fans who paid top dollar to attend their games? Supporting a known cheat after he has already admitted his dirty deeds (with pending allegations) is more along the lines of being a fool than a tool.

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-19-2008, 08:49 AM
I think you missed my point. Take away the most recent Beliprick* cheating allegations and take a trip down memory lane to Week 1 of this past season when Beliprick* was nailed for taping the Jets' defensive signals. Again - my question is - how can you continue to support a coach* who admitted to cheating in that game as well as admitting to cheating (he "misinterpreted the rules" - riiiiiiight) since he became the Pats* coach in 2000, and an owner* who patted him on the back for his dishonest deeds? Don't you get it that Beliprick* and Kraft* have made a mockery out of the NFL by their actions and in turn, have made fools out of every NFL fan out there, including Pats* fans who paid top dollar to attend their games? Supporting a known cheat after he has already admitted his dirty deeds (with pending allegations) is more along the lines of being a fool than a tool.

If a man cheats at home and at work....(the two places where is is given the most trust)....You can KNOW beyond a doubt that he has NO character at all....period...end of story. NOTHING he says can be believed...NO action he commits can be taken at face value...and NO task can be given him in which you can truly trust that he will put aside his selfish inclinations.

He deserves no respect...no support..and no trust.

The Patriot
02-19-2008, 10:35 AM
I think you missed my point. Take away the most recent Beliprick* cheating allegations and take a trip down memory lane to Week 1 of this past season when Beliprick* was nailed for taping the Jets' defensive signals. Again - my question is - how can you continue to support a coach* who admitted to cheating in that game as well as admitting to cheating (he "misinterpreted the rules" - riiiiiiight) since he became the Pats* coach in 2000, and an owner* who patted him on the back for his dishonest deeds? Don't you get it that Beliprick* and Kraft* have made a mockery out of the NFL by their actions and in turn, have made fools out of every NFL fan out there, including Pats* fans who paid top dollar to attend their games? Supporting a known cheat after he has already admitted his dirty deeds (with pending allegations) is more along the lines of being a fool than a tool.

Yeah. It's starting to look like that isn't it.

vasteeler
02-19-2008, 11:57 AM
Really? In what reality is 3 greater then 4? Hmm.


Or all time... 3 greater then 5. ?

Or back to back.. 1 greater then 2?

Or in appearances 5 greater then 6?

Or in losses, your 2 is better then our 1?

just to make it a little worse the pats* have lost 3 to our 1

Dino 6 Rings
02-19-2008, 12:04 PM
Steelers 5-1 in the big game
Pats 3-3.

I'll take my 5 rings.

83-Steelers-43
02-19-2008, 12:08 PM
Belicheat didn't know the rules and that he has "never seen another team's practice film prior to playing that team.".

Sosa couldn't speak English all of a sudden.

Bonds didn't know what he was rubbing on his skin.

Clemens "misremembered".

McGuire did not want to talk about the past.

Palmeiro never, ever used steroids.

:yawn:

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-19-2008, 12:22 PM
Belicheat didn't know the rules and that he has "never seen another team's practice film prior to playing that team.".

Sosa couldn't speak English all of a sudden.

Bonds didn't know what he was rubbing on his skin.

Clemens "misremembered".

McGuire did not want to talk about the past.

Palmeiro never, ever used steroids.

:yawn:

....and Bengal Brian wasnt really banned from all those places.

83-Steelers-43
02-19-2008, 12:27 PM
....and Bengal Brian wasnt really banned from all those places.

Hey, if the large amounts of free candy and K-B toy store gift certificates stored in his basement don't fit, you must acquit!!

tony hipchest
02-19-2008, 12:33 PM
:toofunny:

man, i gotta go back and read those threads. thats when the blast furnace was the funnest!

83-Steelers-43
02-19-2008, 12:37 PM
:toofunny:

man, i gotta go back and read those threads. thats when the blast furnace was the funnest!

Last I heard of him, he was on youtube making some video about leaving Britney Spears alone. No idea what that's all about. :hunch:

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7790&highlight=Bengalbrian&page=2 :toofunny:

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-19-2008, 01:27 PM
:toofunny:

man, i gotta go back and read those threads. thats when the blast furnace was the funnest!

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7637&highlight=worth+improvements&page=3

check out #160..I still have never topped that.:smile:

tony hipchest
02-19-2008, 02:01 PM
http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7637&highlight=worth+improvements&page=3

check out #160..I still have never topped that.:smile:

:toofunny:http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7700&highlight=Brian :toofunny:

man, i miss 3 to be 4. best patfan ive ever encountered. funniest thread ever (i cant believe it went on for 17 pages).

fansince'76
02-19-2008, 02:08 PM
:toofunny:http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7700&highlight=Brian :toofunny:

man, i miss 3 to be 4. best patfan ive ever encountered.

Talk about damning someone with faint praise. :chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
02-19-2008, 05:40 PM
Looks like Peter King has jumped off the Pats bandwagon and is running away from the coming explosion.

Something's fishy
Belichick's Spygate assertion doesn't pass smell test

Let's start by saying that I would be very surprised -- stunned, knowing his attention to all detail large and small -- if Belichick did not know of a very public memo sent from league senior vice president of football operations Ray Anderson to all general managers and coaches on Sept. 6, 2006. In the memo, Anderson wrote:

"Video taping of any type, including but not limited to taping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals, is prohibited on the sidelines, in the coaches' booth, in the locker room, or at any other locations accessible to club staff members during the game."

That memo was written 52 weeks before the Patriots illegally taped the Jets sidelines, and 53 weeks before Belichick said he didn't think he was breaking a rule. In addition, when this story broke, the league brought the media's attention to a section of the Game Operations Manual that said: "No video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game ... All video shooting locations must be enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead."

It is very hard to believe somehow that these rules were not seen by the Patriots, the team and organization I believe to be the most intelligent in football.

Now, as for the Goodell action, I understand why he says he had the tapes destroyed -- so that if any other tapes surfaced showing illegal video of a Patriots opponent hand-signaling defensive calls into the game, he would know the Patriots hadn't been truthful when they said they'd turned over all the tapes. You're right: At the very least, it looks improper and conveys the appearance that the league is trying to cover something up. Goodell says he doesn't regret his actions, but only he knows if deep down he believes that. I believe there is some logic to destroying the tapes, though, in retrospect, it's not the route he should have taken.

There's one aspect of this whole story that is going to be troubling as it plays out. If you read Mike Reiss' story in the Boston Globe on Monday about the Patriots post-Spygate public comments by Belichick and VP Scott Pioli, you came away with a fairly negative opinion of Matt Walsh, the former team employee who allegedly taped the Rams' pre-Super Bowl walk through in 2001. In the story, Pioli says Walsh was fired for secretly tape-recording a conversation he had with Walsh. I've always found Pioli to be truthful, and for him to say something about another person publicly really piqued my interest. I give his statement a lot of credibility.

But even at that, even if the Patriots were right for firing Walsh for conduct unbecoming a good employee, that doesn't mean that the videotapes in his possession aren't worth seeing. There have been a lot of whistle blowers who weren't exactly the most pristine characters and who may have gotten their evidence by abnormal means, but in the end the evidence was still judged on whether it was truthful or not. Although I'm still a little bit ill at ease with the thought that the evidence could be stolen property, I still think we need to see it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/02/19/mmqbte/index.html

HometownGal
02-19-2008, 06:09 PM
:toofunny:http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=7700&highlight=Brian :toofunny:

man, i miss 3 to be 4. best patfan ive ever encountered. funniest thread ever (i cant believe it went on for 17 pages).

3 to be 4 is a legend - he really rocked! :thumbsup: That thread was a freakin' HOOT! :toofunny::toofunny: YAY! (lol).....:smile:

tony hipchest
02-19-2008, 07:20 PM
Looks like Peter King has jumped off the Pats bandwagon and is running away from the coming explosion. ]patfans are adding so many writers onto their hate list, its only right king join in.

lilyoder6
02-19-2008, 08:15 PM
i really like how he camo out about the whole ordeal.. no shit he was going to deny shit, u really think he would come out and say we cheat and if we didn't we wouldn't be able to win against good teams??? i think him breaking his silence was a waste of air time..