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lamberts-lost-tooth
02-25-2008, 07:20 AM
Steelers may not take offensive lineman in first round
By John Harris
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, February 25, 2008

Here's how the NFL Scouting Combine impacted who the Steelers selected with their first-round pick in the 2007 draft.
The Steelers got their man -- linebacker Lawrence Timmons -- even though Timmons didn't run particularly fast at the Combine (4.66 seconds in the 40-yard dash), and he measured about 2 inches shorter than his listed height of 6-foot-3.

Timmons already was on the Steelers' radar. Short of breaking his leg at the Combine, he was home free.

This year, everyone believes the Steelers will take an offensive lineman with their first-round pick (No. 23 overall). Makes sense.

The Steelers are going to lose Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca to free agency.
They're unsettled at tackle, with veteran Marvel Smith recovering from back surgery and entering the final year of his contract, and Max Starks is being made a transition player as an insurance policy for Smith.

By most accounts, Sean Mahan was a disappointment in his first year as a starting center.

Call it a hunch, but expect the Steelers to do the unexpected with their first-round pick.

So, what else is new?

There's NFL logic, and then there's Steelers' logic.

Regarding the draft and free agency, the Steelers make their own rules.

Maybe it was director of football operations Kevin Colbert calling this year's draft the best he's seen for offensive tackles in more than two decades. Translation: Good tackles will be available after the first round.

Maybe it was the Steelers going against the grain and overlooking Timmons' faults and still taking him in the first round a year ago.

Maybe it was Colbert and coach Mike Tomlin going out of their way not to mention Timmons' name prior to last year's draft.

Maybe it was the explanation Colbert gave for the Steelers designating Starks as their transition player, instead of giving him the more traditional franchise tag.

"The (financial) difference was roughly $560,000, which if you translate, that could be two minimum salary players," Colbert said.

The Steelers don't waste money, and they don't waste draft picks.

So, in a draft deep with tackles, why not select a tackle in the second round? Why not address another need -- aging defensive line -- in the first round?

Defensive line prospects aren't as plentiful, so taking one in the first round doesn't seem far-fetched.

As for who the Steelers will draft in the first round, that's for another column.

Just know that the Steelers already know who they want to draft in the first round, and that his performance at the Combine won't change the Steelers' opinion about him.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_554101.html

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-25-2008, 11:22 AM
Good article. They have the luxury of taking the best O-linemen, D-lineman available.

QB, TE, OLB are fine. Safety class is not worth a first round pick. They might take a CB if one is there, but I think they go with one of the line prospects for sure.

Aussie_steeler
02-26-2008, 12:27 AM
[BCall it a hunch, but expect the Steelers to do the unexpected with their first-round pick.

So, what else is new?

There's NFL logic, and then there's Steelers' logic.

Regarding the draft and free agency, the Steelers make their own rules.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_554101.html


Would it really be unexpected to take a D lineman? I dont think so if it is value based. Corner can be warranted, and an O lineman is totally needed.

The only real surprise in the first round would be to take another linebacker or a running back. Quality is definitely there at RB back but it would be a bit of a shock to see one taken.

Rhee Rhee
02-26-2008, 02:34 AM
Safety class is not worth a first round pick.

i agree with the exception of kenny phillips...i'd be glad take him if he's available over sambaker...

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-26-2008, 10:07 AM
Sam Baker is a good O-lineman, but not somebody that fits the Steelers needs. He has short arms, isnt that large, but has great technique and athleticism. He is considered a guy that can play at all positions on the O line except Center.

I think he fits with a line like the Broncos that are more athletic and zone block more than trying to be physicial with the O line. Steelers like maulers like Otah, Nicks and Cherilus.

I keep thinking that I would not be disappointed to hear Trevor Laws in the 1st round, but he is too small for a 3-4NT and short for a 3-4 DE, but we need some D linemen that are active and can disrupt the pocket.

O-line or D-line in round 1 is a great plan.

DACEB
02-26-2008, 12:12 PM
If they're not going to draft O-line in the 1st, they damn well better draft DEFENSE!!

Defense wins championships!!!

D.R.C.

VTsteel
02-26-2008, 05:15 PM
Steelers may not take offensive lineman in first round
By John Harris
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, February 25, 2008

Here's how the NFL Scouting Combine impacted who the Steelers selected with their first-round pick in the 2007 draft.
The Steelers got their man -- linebacker Lawrence Timmons -- even though Timmons didn't run particularly fast at the Combine (4.66 seconds in the 40-yard dash), and he measured about 2 inches shorter than his listed height of 6-foot-3.

Timmons already was on the Steelers' radar. Short of breaking his leg at the Combine, he was home free.

This year, everyone believes the Steelers will take an offensive lineman with their first-round pick (No. 23 overall). Makes sense.

The Steelers are going to lose Pro Bowl guard Alan Faneca to free agency.
They're unsettled at tackle, with veteran Marvel Smith recovering from back surgery and entering the final year of his contract, and Max Starks is being made a transition player as an insurance policy for Smith.

By most accounts, Sean Mahan was a disappointment in his first year as a starting center.

Call it a hunch, but expect the Steelers to do the unexpected with their first-round pick.

So, what else is new?

There's NFL logic, and then there's Steelers' logic.

Regarding the draft and free agency, the Steelers make their own rules.

Maybe it was director of football operations Kevin Colbert calling this year's draft the best he's seen for offensive tackles in more than two decades. Translation: Good tackles will be available after the first round.

Maybe it was the Steelers going against the grain and overlooking Timmons' faults and still taking him in the first round a year ago.

Maybe it was Colbert and coach Mike Tomlin going out of their way not to mention Timmons' name prior to last year's draft.

Maybe it was the explanation Colbert gave for the Steelers designating Starks as their transition player, instead of giving him the more traditional franchise tag.

"The (financial) difference was roughly $560,000, which if you translate, that could be two minimum salary players," Colbert said.

The Steelers don't waste money, and they don't waste draft picks.

So, in a draft deep with tackles, why not select a tackle in the second round? Why not address another need -- aging defensive line -- in the first round?

Defensive line prospects aren't as plentiful, so taking one in the first round doesn't seem far-fetched.

As for who the Steelers will draft in the first round, that's for another column.

Just know that the Steelers already know who they want to draft in the first round, and that his performance at the Combine won't change the Steelers' opinion about him.




You know, the more I think about this - the more sense it does make. If the difference between the 4th and 7th best lineman is negligible . . . Then why not take one in the second round?

I just pray that we do take one in the first two rounds.

Mistah_Q
02-26-2008, 05:47 PM
The Steelers don't waste money, and they don't waste draft picks.:rofl::banana:

Crushzilla
02-26-2008, 07:09 PM
:rofl::banana:

You just wait... Troy Edwards is going to blow up this year...

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-26-2008, 09:09 PM
You just wait... Troy Edwards is going to blow up this year...

Yeah, him and Jamain Stevens, Alonzo Jackson and Ricardo Colclough have a shot this season.

Steeldude
02-27-2008, 12:59 AM
the steelers are most likely going for O-line or D-line in the 1st round. that's been known for quite awhile.

they should have been addressing the O-line a long time ago. the simmons' pick was a reach and it shows.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-27-2008, 10:58 AM
the steelers are most likely going for O-line or D-line in the 1st round. that's been known for quite awhile.

they should have been addressing the O-line a long time ago. the simmons' pick was a reach and it shows.

Do you mean Kendal Simmons was a reach, or Lawrence Timmons??

The O-line situation was thought to be Smith, Kemo, Mahan, Simmons, Starks(or Colon) for this season which really isnt that bad except that Mahan sucks.

The only real answer was 2 years ago to draft Nick Mangold instead of Santonio Holmes.......then WR would be a real problem instead.

Steeldude
02-27-2008, 11:08 AM
Do you mean Kendal Simmons was a reach, or Lawrence Timmons??

simmons :smile:

Dino 6 Rings
02-27-2008, 04:18 PM
Felix "The Cat" Jones!!!!