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83-Steelers-43
02-28-2008, 12:27 AM
Steelers not likely to dive into free-agent pool
By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, February 28, 2008

He throws around money like it is confetti.

And given that frugal is among the few things he hasn't been called, Daniel Snyder would appear to be as poised as any NFL owner to spend liberally during the free-agent signing period, which starts Friday at 12:01 a.m.

Or is he?

"I don't think Dan's plane is going to be fired up ready to go," Washington vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said in regard to the Redskins courting free agents. "I just think it's going to be a relatively quiet start of free agency for us."

Unless director of football operations Kevin Colbert and coach Mike Tomlin put out a major smokescreen at the recent NFL Scouting Combine, the Steelers will also be among the many teams that dip their toe into what is a shallow free-agent pool but not jump right into it.

The raising of the salary cap from $109 million to $116 million this year allowed many teams to invest in their own veterans before they hit the open market, making the free-agent crop anything but bumper.

The Colts, for example, agreed to contract extensions with safety Bob Sanders, the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year, tight end Dallas Clark and guard Ryan Lilja.

"I think we had a heck of a free-agency period," Colts president Bill Polian said. "Let's see, we got Dallas Clark, we got Ryan Lilja ... Bob Sanders. That's a pretty good free-agency crop by any measure."

Teams that weren't able to reach long-term contract agreements with key free-agents-to-be used the franchise tag on them. The 11 teams that used the franchise designation essentially bought themselves more time to negotiate with the players they tagged.

Those players can still field offers on the open market, but their team has the right to match any offer made to them. Also, the cost for signing a franchise player is so prohibitive (a team must surrender a pair of first-round draft picks) that using the tag almost guarantees teams that they will have that player for at least one more season.

"If you're looking to secure more talent in free agency, which we're not a big part of anyway, it's probably not good," Colbert said of the free-agent class. "Free agency's changed so much over the years because teams are doing a better job of keeping and signing their own talent to long-term deals, so that takes so many players off the market."

That has the effect of driving up the price for those players that do hit the open market simply because of supply and demand.

That won't stop teams from throwing big money at the handful of marquee players that are in this year's class, though history has shown that winning during the free-agent signing period does not always translate into winning during the regular season.

Take the San Francisco 49ers last year.

No team was more active in free agency than the 49ers, who signed cornerback Nate Clements and safety Michael Lewis, among others. Yet after going 7-9 in 2006, San Francisco stumbled to 5-11 last season.

"I don't think that's how you build your team," Tennessee Titans general manager Mike Reinfeldt said of free agency, "but I think there are some (free agents) that can help you."

The Steelers have had success signing free agents -- center Jeff Hartings and linebacker James Farrior are among the most notable examples -- but they didn't get much return on the investment they made in Sean Mahan last May.

The Steelers lured Mahan to Pittsburgh with a four-year deal worth as much as $17.5 million -- that was the only significant free-agent signing they made last year -- and he was a disappointment after taking over for the retired Hartings at center.

Few, if any, NFL executives will argue that the best method for securing top talent is drafting quality players, developing them and signing them before they test the open market.

"If you draft the guys in the third and fourth round and get them locked in for three- or four-year deals, the amount of money you spend on them is much less than in free agency," 49ers general manager Scot McCloughan said. "In free agency, you always overspend."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_554586.html

Edman
02-28-2008, 01:01 AM
Nothing new here. The Steelers have always bare players in free agency.

Here comes the doom and gloom.

fansince'76
02-28-2008, 01:06 AM
Steelers not likely to dive into free-agent pool

And in other earthshaking news....

Water is wet. Fire is hot. The sun will rise in the east and set in the west. And the Pittsburgh media will publish yet another annual obligatory article about how the Steelers won't be a big player in FA. No sh*t. The only thing surprising about this article is that it doesn't mention the Pens' deal for Hossa and whine about how the Steelers should be "risk takers" like the Pens. :yawn:

Daniel Snyder would appear to be as poised as any NFL owner to spend liberally during the free-agent signing period, which starts Friday at 12:01 a.m.

Or is he?

"I don't think Dan's plane is going to be fired up ready to go," Washington vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said in regard to the Redskins courting free agents. "I just think it's going to be a relatively quiet start of free agency for us."

Gee, ya don't think the fact that the 'Skins are already $15-20 million over the cap with only 45 players currently under contract has anything to do with that, do ya? The Rooneys really need to "get with the program" in regards to FA like the billionaire dotcom geek has. :coffee:

Crushzilla
02-28-2008, 02:56 AM
The Rooney's are cheap




:stirthepot:

Galax Steeler
02-28-2008, 04:29 AM
Nothing new here we know that we won't do much in free agency.

Steel Pit
02-28-2008, 05:18 AM
Man this just really SUCKS! I'm so tired of my Steelers being so-freaking LAZY during free agency periods.

I want Justin Smith, I want Matt Jones, and oh yeah, I want that FS from Minnesota, Smith I believe his name is. Uhmmm, it seems as if I'm forgetting one or two others but whatever, I want them ALL.

I Thank God that the Steelers ownership operates in the fashion that they do. Could you imagine the Steelers ownership operating like Daniel Snyder during free agency period? Why the city of Pittsburgh residents would run the Ronney's out of town but only after they subjected them to a public stoning.

Free agency/Pittsburgh Steelers :yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn::yawn:

TackleMeBen
02-28-2008, 07:56 AM
The Rooney's are cheap




:stirthepot:

they arent cheap..lol. they just spend their money wisely..:wink02:

rbryan
02-28-2008, 08:19 AM
If nothing else Scott Brown gives hope to the young kids who want to grow up and be in the newspaper biz.

This article shows us that just about anyone could be a writer for the Tribune.

BlastFurnace
02-28-2008, 09:15 AM
I'm happy the Steelers take care of their own the way that they do.

As Joey used to say "We do what we do"

83-Steelers-43
02-28-2008, 10:32 AM
If nothing else Scott Brown gives hope to the young kids who want to grow up and be in the newspaper biz.

This article shows us that just about anyone could be a writer for the Tribune.

Maybe he reads a number of Steeler MBs on the net and witnesses a good number of Steeler fans posting "(insert player name) is a free agent, let's sign him!!" threads every single freakin' day, so he decided to bring them back down to earth? God knows there's enough of them this time of year.

:coffee:

IDSteeler
02-28-2008, 02:23 PM
I'm happy the Steelers take care of their own the way that they do.

As Joey used to say "We do what we do"



Take care of their own???

"As Joey used to say" They took care of him the way they "took care" of Faneca, Lloyd, Greene, Woodson, Brown, Scott, Burress, Randle El, Hope. The list goes on and on.....

:banging::banging::banging:

BlastFurnace
02-28-2008, 03:34 PM
Take care of their own???

"As Joey used to say" They took care of him the way they "took care" of Faneca, Lloyd, Greene, Woodson, Brown, Scott, Burress, Randle El, Hope. The list goes on and on.....

:banging::banging::banging:

Ok...let's take a good look at your list. IMO, the Rooney's have always stepped up when and where they could.

Faneca: Is Faneca still worth the money he thinks he is worth? It would be foolish for the Steelers to invest in a 30+ year old lineman the money he is looking for. This is a wise team and business decision not to tie up a ton of money into someone on the downside of his career.

Lloyd: Greg Lloyd's career was over when the Steelers let him go. In other words, he had nothing left. He only lasted one year in Carolina and he retired. If you remember, Lloyd got a contract that averaged between $3-4 Million before he was hurt. At the time, that was a nice contract for a Linebacker. Besides, they also took care of Levon Kirkland right about the same time.

Greene: Greene was replaced by Jason Gildon who adequately replaced him. Greene had some football left in him, but I can hardly blame the Steelers for replacing him with a younger player who ended up being the Steelers all time sack leader.

Woodson: The Steelers took care of Woodson and gave him the largest contract for a CB when he signed his deal after the 92 season. Rod was not the same CB in 1996 when he came back from injury. As a matter of fact, no-one was knocking down the door to sign him and he even had his own private workout to showcase what he could still do and still...only San Francisco was interested.

Brown: The Seahawks flew Brown to Seattle the moment FA began in 1997 and blew him away with a $24 million dollar deal. At the time, it was far and away the highest deal ever paid to a LB'er. At the time, with the lack of revenue from TRS, it was not possible for the Steelers to match or exceed that deal. Besides, Brown wanted out of Pittsburgh.

Scott: If you are thinking of Chad Scott, OMG. They gave this guy and DeWayne Washington both $20 Million+ in the life of their contracts to play. They more than took care of them.

Burress: Burress overestimated his worth on the open market. Would he have been nice to keep around...yes. It basically came down between him and Ward to keep and the Steelers made the right decision here.

Randel El: Everyone with a pulse knows it would have been dumb to match the money ol' Danny boy gave Randel El.

Hope: Was Hope really a $30 Million dollar safety...the money that Tennessee gave him. Would you have spent that kind of money on him? Hope got his money, but he wasn't worth the kind of money he received.

Who else do you want to discuss?

aclark99
02-28-2008, 03:41 PM
I know Steeler fans are prepared for nothing big in free agency this year. But I honestly believe the this year the Steelers will sign a big name free agent. Things are really quiet and that is the way the Steelers do business. Everything is kept quiet. We have the dough to sign at least one that will make an impact on the field. The only problem is I just don't know who it will be. I don't think anyone will sign right out of the gate league wide. I wish Steeler fans would quit bashing the Rooney's. We do have 5 Super Bowl Trophy's where a lot of teams wished they had one. Real fans wouldn't bash a storied and proud organization.

RoethlisBURGHer
02-28-2008, 04:09 PM
Brown and Burress both wanted out of Pittsburgh, there was no resigning them.

BlastFurnace
02-28-2008, 04:22 PM
Did everyone see what Tommy Kelly got from the Raiders.....7 yrs / $50 Million. If that is what Kelly get's..all DE's such as Justin Smith now have something to aim for...a salary that will get them cut in around 2-3 years.

polamalu82
02-28-2008, 04:38 PM
The Steelers never "dive" into the free-agent pool. We perfer to doggy paddle through it.

lilyoder6
02-28-2008, 04:44 PM
that deal for kelly was pretty much insane.. the highest paid dt ever.. and all of the FA i think that blastfurnance made good points on evryone.. randle el has done shit for the skins.. hope is still hope in tenn nothing great as his contract looked.. the only disappointment was letting plex go but we had to make a decision... they made a choice and stuck with it.. and look 1 yr later a ring

Stlrs4Life
02-28-2008, 05:02 PM
Nothing new here. The Steelers have always bare players in free agency.

Here comes the doom and gloom.




For sure. Nothing to see here, move along.

Dino 6 Rings
02-28-2008, 05:24 PM
The list of guys the Steelers "cut ties with" that go on to have established careers somewhere else is very limited. You could argue Vrabel, even though at the time we were loaded at linebacker. Woodson from what I remember, was offered a contract, rejected it, went to the Free Agency market, and then, signed for LESS than our original offer. Burnt bridge there. Kevin Green had 2 good years left him in, but wanted a long term deal. Not going to happen. Burress, absolutely wanted out of the Burgh, El wanted 1st Receiver money for a 2nd Receiver ability, not going to happen when you're smart. Kendrell Bell, cut him lose, none too soon. Chad Brown wanted sick money to stay. How many rings does he have? Oh yeah, zero. It isn't like other teams are loaded with Ex Steelers and winning it all.

For the Most part, and I mean 98% of the Most Part, I agree with everything that our organization does. Most of their decisions are based upon building for long term, not a quick fix try and win it all this year. Lots of teams try that "quick fix" and only 1 team wins each season.

Colts did a quick fix, got a real Kicker. That worked out nice for them.

Pats did a quick fix, got a few good and one great receiver. Yeah, good job. 18-1 is great any year, when the 1 loss comes early in the season.

Cowboys quick fixed, TO, nice job.

Raiders are the kings of the Quick Fix...how's that working out Al?

Building a team is about building a lot of US guys, working together, tweaking the areas that need fixed (Special Teams sometime please) and then having the Veterans lead the younger guys to glory. It isn't about a bunch of "throw me the damn ball" guys striving for differenent personal records and then hoping you catch lightning in a bottle and win it all.

At least, that's what I believe, and that's why I love my Team.