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tony hipchest
11-01-2005, 02:22 PM
as heard on sirius radio. the wrist is a muscle strain that comes from the over use of the forearm. the right knee will have a mri today and his status for next weeks game will probably be released tomorrow.

by no means is ben soft, fragile, injury prone, etc. in fact id say hes one of the toughest qb's out there. he just takes one hell of a beating everytime he plays it seems. i dont think its from a lack of line protection. i would compare his style of play with d. mcnabb or s. mcnair as opposed to p. manning or t. brady.

why do you think he gets dinged up so often? is there something he can do different or is it just a bad stroke of luck? not to be lost is the fact that ben is the 2nd best passer in the league when throwing under duress or contact.

BurghThing
11-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Because our offensive line can't pass protect.

Atlanta Dan
11-01-2005, 02:37 PM
I think Ben is tougher to bring down than almost all other QBs and because of that takes more hits before he is brought down (as Madden said last night, Bradshaw was another tough one to bring down with the initial hit and had the lost games to show for it earlier in his career).

Although he obviously not the runner Mike Vick is, both Vick and Ben get hit more than Peyton Manning or Brady - more hits = more dings = more potential for getting seriously hit.

Aches and pains do not get better without rest (hence the importance of getting the playoff bye) - Cowher needs to decide whether to gamble and sit Ben (even if he is somewhat capable of playing) and give Batch his first start in years at Lambeau this Sunday.

Long term goals are the key - if you lose the playoff bye because you lost a road game against a mediocre team while resting Ben is it worth the risk?

BB2W
11-01-2005, 02:45 PM
PITTSBURGH -- Ben Roethlisberger's left knee injury apparently isn't serious, but Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher wasn't ready to say if his quarterback will be ready to play Sunday in Green Bay.

Roethlisberger underwent an MRI exam Tuesday, about 12 hours after the Steelers' 20-19 victory over Baltimore, and was given a preliminary diagnosis of a strained posterior capsule. The injury affects the range of motion of the knee and can be very painful.

"All ligaments are fine, and we'll get a further update as the week goes on," Cowher said Tuesday. "There's nothing serious coming out of the game as we speak. ... Hopefully it's something he can continue to work through, and we'll rest him when we can and see where he is at the end of the week."



link.......... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2210331

Prosdo
11-01-2005, 03:07 PM
Hopefully, Ben will be okay. Seems like he has had a lot of bad luck in the injury department so far this season.

Steel - X
11-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Lets hope if he is injured and can not play that Cowher gives Batch the start over Maddox. Please Ben be healthy.

clevestinks
11-01-2005, 03:48 PM
Wow, lot to talk about here!

1. I`m glad to hear so far, there is nothing serious.
2. This week our offesnive line didn`t show up. It seemed that they were set on having seven men in the box, and single coverage on the outsides, and it worked. With some more time to throw, Ben would have been able to pick it apart. I think.
3. Ben is tough, and big. But seeing him up close at training camp, with a sleeveless tshirt on. I was surprised , as well as everyone I talked to there, to see that he isn`t toned or muscular at all. He is truly big, especially up close. But he doesn`t seem to take the weightroom or fitness to serious. I maybe wrong, I really would like to know if anyone knows otherwise.
4.I really think Tommy would start again, over Batch if needed. I think YTommy has proven in the past, that he is better than the Jags game. With that said, I`m not so sure that I wouldnt` play Batch first, but I think Cowher and co. would play Tommy.

Just my two cents

figg
11-01-2005, 04:22 PM
Wow, lot to talk about here!

1. I`m glad to hear so far, there is nothing serious.
2. This week our offesnive line didn`t show up. It seemed that they were set on having seven men in the box, and single coverage on the outsides, and it worked. With some more time to throw, Ben would have been able to pick it apart. I think.
3. Ben is tough, and big. But seeing him up close at training camp, with a sleeveless tshirt on. I was surprised , as well as everyone I talked to there, to see that he isn`t toned or muscular at all. He is truly big, especially up close. But he doesn`t seem to take the weightroom or fitness to serious. I maybe wrong, I really would like to know if anyone knows otherwise.
4.I really think Tommy would start again, over Batch if needed. I think YTommy has proven in the past, that he is better than the Jags game. With that said, I`m not so sure that I wouldnt` play Batch first, but I think Cowher and co. would play Tommy.

Just my two cents

He does look bigger this year.

Suitanim
11-01-2005, 04:33 PM
Saw this as part of a larger article at Fox Sports Net.

Cowher played Maddox even though Roethlisberger all but begged Cowher to play him, pleading his case up until the final hours before the game.

Maddox, the Steelers' starter for most of the 2002 season and in 2003, has since fallen to No. 3 on the depth chart behind Charlie Batch, and it seems likely Batch would start in Green Bay should Roethlisberger have a setback and not be ready.

Ambridge
11-01-2005, 04:49 PM
Ben is his own worst enemy when it comes to getting dinged up.
QB's who have the ability to make plays on the run when the pocket/protection collapses put themselves at greater risk when it comes to taking big shots on the field.
Ben needs to learn when a play is hopeless and just get down on the ground.

I thought the offensive line played fine last night against the Ravens. Whatever pressure Ben did get I'd give credit to the Raven secondary.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-01-2005, 05:44 PM
Russ Grimm needs to whip these guys into shape.. earlier in the year it was Simmons and Starks who were having the main issues, but now it seems that there is letdowns on any given play just about any of them.

Marvel has been pretty stout in protection though, I'll give him that but we just arent picking up the blitzers as well.

ben is as tough as they come..wearing a brace sux and it definately hinders him especially w/ roll outs and scrambles so lets hope he's not wearing it all year.

BB2W
11-02-2005, 05:05 PM
Ben Roethlisberger sat out Nov. 2's practice with a right knee injury and is listed as questionable for the game in Green Bay.

He said he feels better than he did three weeks ago after a sustaining a left knee injury during a Monday night game.

"I was on crutches, so obviously I was a little bit worse," the Steelers quarterback said. "It's just a little sore thing, but we'll get better."

Roethlisberger declined comment about the results of an MRI examination. He referred "knee questions" to coach Bill Cowher, who didn't talk to reporters, but said on Nov. 1 that the initial diagnosis was a strain.

Roethlisberger said he wants to play, but "obviously the final decision comes from coach Cowher. I'm going to give him my opinion; the doctors will give him their opinion and he's going to have the final say."



link....... http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PIT/9019170

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
11-02-2005, 06:07 PM
i dasagree
Look at the all the time that Anthony Wright had to drop back and throw the ball.
Ben did not get that kind of protection.
Our offensive line is one of the very best every year.
And this year they look to be below average..
Even Alan F. has looked shitty in a few games.
They need to get it together or ben is gonna miss a few games this year.

tony hipchest
11-02-2005, 07:07 PM
i dasagree
Look at the all the time that Anthony Wright had to drop back and throw the ball.
Ben did not get that kind of protection.
Our offensive line is one of the very best every year.
And this year they look to be below average..
Even Alan F. has looked shitty in a few games.
They need to get it together or ben is gonna miss a few games this year.
the ravens kept t. heap in to max protect for a. wright. the steelers couldve done the same with h. miller but then we wouldnt see the 2 td's fans have been calling for. heath being out there catchin passes comes at a cost of extra protection for ben. up to this point it seems alot of people would like to see him more in the passing game. i dont wanna see him put up 145 yds like a. gates. h. ward, c. wilson and el are getting paid to do that. as valuable heath is in the field, hes just as valuable on the line.

ironcitychef
11-04-2005, 12:32 PM
Baltimore sold out to the run. Having that many around the line, injuries will happen. But I guess it wasn't even a person. He caught a cleat. I must say that I like Ben having all that natural padding. If he was a McNabb ripped, not sure he could handle the cold.

clevestinks
11-04-2005, 01:51 PM
McNabb seems to handle the cold better than any QB, he is sleeveless more than the linemen

Grey
11-04-2005, 02:23 PM
I don't think I'd call him injury prone ... he stayed pretty healthy all last year. I'd chalk it up to a bit of bad luck this year, that's all. I think the important thing is that he is a tough guy --- wanting to play through injuries and be there for the team.

Here we go.
Grey

tony hipchest
11-04-2005, 06:32 PM
i think its more bad luck, and hell, he had to get used to the speed of the game on the fly! and hes tuff as nails. ward and jerome are wearing off on him.