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MDSteel15
03-11-2008, 01:18 PM
WR Bryant Johnson Cardinals: still out there, which leads me to believe he is asking toooo much $$$

WR DJ Hackett Seahawks: still there but injuries last year probably will have him sign back wit SeaChickens

LT: there ain't shizznit!!! Here we need a stud if Smith's back problems persist

G Stephen Peterman Lions: he replaced Damian Woodey last year and did a great job. Even though I think we are going to take Albert in round 1, he is a viable and young option....

G Keydrick Vincent Cardinals: nah just kidding....

C: Bubbkiss... Nadda... Chris Myers will most likely re-sign with the Broncos. We have to draft another STUD!


DE: any player that would fit our need is gone. possibly draft here(Dre Moore)

DT: There are several out there that could spell Casey from time to time, but they won't be cheap. Another draft spot possibly

ILB: absolutely nothing.... a barren wasteland

CB Fernando Bryant Lions: even at 31, if he comes at a price cut, a servicable player. Even Colclough got $4million from the Panthers!?!?!

CB Domonique Foxworth(RFA)Broncos: young and talented. I'd love for him to be in SteelTown.

S Terrance Holt Cardinals: I thought he had a good season last year and can't fgure out why he was let go....

19ward86
03-11-2008, 02:03 PM
i loved bryant johnson in arizona, they say he didnt live up to the 1st round hype even though he played better last year than many starters around the league, i believe if he gets the chance he can be a #1 probowl guy, titans should pick him up with all the cap they have.

Dylan
03-11-2008, 02:51 PM
i loved bryant johnson in arizona, they say he didnt live up to the 1st round hype even though he played better last year than many starters around the league, i believe if he gets the chance he can be a #1 probowl guy, titans should pick him up with all the cap they have.

titans would be a great place for him to go he would get a lot more looks with fitz and bldin out of the picture.

BettisFan
03-11-2008, 02:56 PM
I would like Bryant if we can get him.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 03:43 PM
I hope this Max Starks thing is over soon so we can get some cap room.

I for one would like to see Musa Smith in the backfield instead of Carey Davis.

Elvis
03-11-2008, 03:49 PM
Musa might be a good pick up El' Gonzo.
I just think that I read something where if Max Starks does not get a longer contract offer from someone else that the Steelers can match then the Steelers will take their offer back from Starks and that will make him a free agent again. Sounds cruel, but it is the truth.:jawdrop:

tony hipchest
03-11-2008, 04:15 PM
i loved bryant johnson in arizona, they say he didnt live up to the 1st round hype even though he played better last year than many starters around the league, not.

johnson = 46 rec/ 528 yds/ 2td

nate washington = 29 rec/ 450 yds/ 5 td

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Musa might be a good pick up El' Gonzo.
I just think that I read something where if Max Starks does not get a longer contract offer from someone else that the Steelers can match then the Steelers will take their offer back from Starks and that will make him a free agent again. Sounds cruel, but it is the truth.:jawdrop:

If he doesnt get any decent offers, they will try to get his agent to propose a contract and pull the tag.

The big thing in negotiating is to never be the first to make an offer. It then gives the other side a chance to counter....so Starks hasnt said what he wants and the Steelers havent put out an offer.

Obviously nobody wants to give up the pick to get him, so the offer will be pulled. Then he may get an offer from somebody and can sign it or take it back to the Steelers as a starting point.

The longer he stays tagged, the less $$ will be out there to sign him and the better the chances the steelers have of him signing him. This might be a sign that he doesnt want to stay and will ride it out until the Steelers pull the tag and somebody with cap room like the Titans decides to pay for him.

Either way, I want it over so we can free up some cap space to shop a bit more.

aclark99
03-11-2008, 04:33 PM
I think Bryant Johnson would be a good pick up. Cedric Wilson at this point is not in our plans or is Nate Washington that good but just doesn't produce on the field. Wilson is making to much for a #4 WR. Johnson could battle Washington for the #3 WR job plus give Ben his 6'3" WR with decent speed and young. Starks situation should soon get resolved at least we hope.

BettisFan
03-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Cedric can make plays if given some time

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Cedric can make plays if given some time
:sofunny:

BettisFan
03-11-2008, 05:13 PM
Well lol i guess he only has had one touch down a year recently haha

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 06:06 PM
He ran out of time. This is the final season of his 4 year contract.

aclark99
03-11-2008, 07:18 PM
Still to much money for a #4WR. It is pathetic that he is still on the roster. We have bigger holes that need to be filled and it will also free up some salary cap space. Heck, trade him for 7th RD pick.

paw-n-maul-u
03-11-2008, 07:42 PM
Our WR core I feel is fine for another year.

We haven't seen the best of Santonio yet, not even close, he's going to be big time.
Next year we might want to start addressing a compliment given what will be Ward's cap # and age.
I think another year of Arians and Ben working together will be good. Stability is key and after initially cringing, I'm glad BA is back.

I'd much rather see Hackett than Johnson

Dylan
03-11-2008, 08:02 PM
maybe after buddy crystal is done with the yankees we will give him a look and sign to a 10 day contract

tony hipchest
03-11-2008, 08:48 PM
I think Bryant Johnson would be a good pick up. Cedric Wilson at this point is not in our plans or is Nate Washington that good but just doesn't produce on the field. Wilson is making to much for a #4 WR. Johnson could battle Washington for the #3 WR job plus give Ben his 6'3" WR with decent speed and young. Starks situation should soon get resolved at least we hope. seriously people... lets take off the "we hate nate" sunglasses.

bryant johnson through 5 years (39 games started)-

210/2675/9td

nate through 3 years (6 games started)-

64/1074/9td

keep in mind johnson was a 1st rounder while nate spent his 1st season on the practice squad.

with our backs against the salary cap wall, why in the HELL would the steelers pay 5X the salary for 1/2 the production????? :huh:

our 4th wr on a running team is better than arizonas #3 on a passing team. that oughta tell you something.

i know everyone is a monday morning GM but people might as well try to convince me were better off with cedric benson over willie parker. :dang:

lilyoder6
03-11-2008, 09:16 PM
and we need the money to sign the draft picks.. i would rather take chance on a wr in the later rds or pick one up as a undrafted rookie than sign a someone to money thats won't be spent good

MDSteel15
03-11-2008, 11:36 PM
I hope this Max Starks thing is over soon so we can get some cap room.

I for one would like to see Musa Smith in the backfield instead of Carey Davis.

Rumor has it Musa is going to be a JET!!!

MDSteel15
03-11-2008, 11:38 PM
not.

johnson = 46 rec/ 528 yds/ 2td

nate washington = 29 rec/ 450 yds/ 5 td

You forgot the 20 dropped passes from Nate.....:dang:

Galax Steeler
03-12-2008, 03:29 AM
You forgot the 20 dropped passes from Nate.....:dang:

Thats true but what about the drops from johnson everyone drops them.
:wink02:

MDSteel15
03-12-2008, 08:42 AM
Thats true but what about the drops from johnson everyone drops them.
:wink02:

He was injured early on in his career and that's why he was backing up arguably the best WR duo in the league. No telling what he can do given the chance. :cheers:

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-12-2008, 04:28 PM
Rumor has it Musa is going to be a JET!!!

Yeah, I saw that too. Oh well, its like trying to buy something good at the 7-11 with a nickel.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 04:29 PM
Do the jets need another rb??

Dino 6 Rings
03-12-2008, 04:44 PM
I know a guy who's 34, runs about an 8 second 40 but would be willing to play Kick Coverage for 8 bucks a game. Just put me in the Uniform and I'll....I mean he will be ready to go on the cheap...

bet I...I mean he...can tackle better than 1/2 our special teams players from last season...come on Tomlin...give him a Shot...just message Dino 5 Rings and he's already got his bags Packed!!!!

lilyoder6
03-12-2008, 04:46 PM
they have thomas jones.. and they have leon washington as a back up.. don't know y they would need him

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 04:49 PM
they have thomas jones.. and they have leon washington as a back up.. don't know y they would need him
exactly

LVSteelersfan
03-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Why would we want to pick up any more FAs? They are overpriced and unwanted. Johnson will want WAY TOO MUCH money. We picked up Moore so we don't need someone like Musa Smith who would also COST TOO MUCH. I like the signing of Keyaron Fox because he was CHEAP. Veteran's minimum so we are not in salary cap hell.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 08:51 PM
all we really need is an O-line man and were good

lilyoder6
03-12-2008, 09:05 PM
future o-line and d-line is what we need.. and maybe a corner.. but i like the wr core that we have right now.. yes we are going to have to find a replacement 4 hines soon but that can be done thru the draft... i'll take ward, holmes, nate, ced, even miller or speath in the mix over any wr core any other team has

LVSteelersfan
03-12-2008, 10:25 PM
future o-line and d-line is what we need.. and maybe a corner.. but i like the wr core that we have right now.. yes we are going to have to find a replacement 4 hines soon but that can be done thru the draft... i'll take ward, holmes, nate, ced, even miller or speath in the mix over any wr core any other team has

Amen. I think Washington will only get better. Wilson is ok. And hopefully they will use Miller a lot more. If the Oline gets fixed, Miller won't need to stay back and block quite as much. He is a heck of a receiver.

:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

Galax Steeler
03-13-2008, 03:38 AM
Amen. I think Washington will only get better. Wilson is ok. And hopefully they will use Miller a lot more. If the Oline gets fixed, Miller won't need to stay back and block quite as much. He is a heck of a receiver.

:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

I have to agree a 100% fix the line and get miller more involved.

tony hipchest
03-13-2008, 09:33 AM
http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story;jsessionid=E4EF22A8F2AE7C4F8C2BC9FA8142AC56? id=09000d5d8072633d&template=with-video&confirm=true


The first week of free agency had an unpredicted flurry of signings, and the money used to sign the first 60 players came in about 17 percent higher than last year's first week of free agency.

The players have to be excited that in a year where the free-agent talent pool was supposedly weaker than in recent years the money was still there. The next question is: Has the money dried up and are the rest of the remaining free agents left with little negotiating power?

In some positions that could be true, but in others there is still some guaranteed money to be had for the lucky few. Keep in mind, teams are still releasing players into the talent pool for salary cap reasons, such as linebacker Takeo Spikes and defensive back Kelly Herndon, and there are a few restricted free agents who could get good offers to leave their respective clubs.

The point is, there is still money out there and the signings will continue -- maybe not at the pace of 60 per week, but they will get deals this week and all the way up to the owners meetings in early April. After that, things will settle down and all attention will turn to the draft.

Here's a look at each position and the name free agents still available to teams in need (list in the order of remaining quality at each position):

Quarterbacks
Six quarterbacks re-signed with their respective clubs, four have signed with new teams, and one was traded. There are no starters left on the board but there are a few very capable backups and maybe even a guy who could win a starting job if he signs at a place with open competition for the No. 1 job. Look for these guys to get a contract in the near future.

Who's left: Gus Frerotte, Quinn Gray, Daunte Culpepper, Mark Brunell and David Carr.

Wide receivers
Lots of action with this group so far. Eight re-signed with their respective clubs, led by the Saints and Patriots. Twelve got contracts with new clubs, one was traded, and one was signed after not being in the league last year. In total, 22 wide receivers have new contracts, and there are still some very interesting players available.

Who's left: Bryant Johnson, D.J. Hackett, Reche Caldwell, and Justin McCareins lead the way, and at least two of them should go this week.

Running backs
Six players re-signed with their respective teams and nine guys have switched clubs, led by Michael Turner, who went from San Diego to Atlanta. The multiple running back signings in Seattle probably means Shaun Alexander will be on the free-agency board soon, but for now there are only limited options remaining for the teams looking for a back.

Who's left: Chris Brown, Musa Smith, Mike Anderson and Ron Dayne should all get deals before the draft, but the money might not be very good considering the rich talent pool in the 2008 draft class.


Seven stayed home and seven have left for greener pastures. At this point teams are looking for versatile guys to build the back end of the roster. A player with a history of playing guard and tackle who is reasonably healthy will get paid.

Who's left: Jason Fabini, Barry Sims and L.J. Shelton will all find work before most of the guys left on the board.

Centers
Jeff Faine got big bucks from Tampa right away, and early this week Alex Stepanovich found work with the Falcons. Any team looking for help at this position is now looking at just a few remaining players.

Who's left: Casey Wiegmann and Mike Flynn.

Tight ends
This has been a very busy position so far with seven re-signs and nine new teams. With 16 tight ends off the board, there are only a few good names out there.

Who's left: Kyle Brady, Bubba Franks, and Bo Scaife.

Defensive ends
Only three have re-signed, while eight moved on in a very limited pool of talent. Tennessee has lost its two left defensive ends in Travis LaBoy and Antwan Odom, and it could have trouble getting DT Albert Haynesworth under contract, puttting one of the best defensive lines of 2007 in turmoil.

Who's left: The only place to turn now could be Corey Smith or Renaldo Wynn.

Defensive tackles
No position has been dominated by trades like defensive tackle, and for big money, with five players securing well over $60 million in guaranteed money. Seven more tackles switched teams and four re-signed, led by Tommy Kelly's $18 million in guarantees from Oakland.

Who's left: For a lot less money, a team could still go to the street for Darwin Walker, Grady Jackson or William Joseph.

Linebackers
Fourteen signed with a new squad, six stayed home and one was traded.

Who's left: That leaves Takeo Spikes, Clark Haggins, Rosevelt Colvin, Danny Clark, Tracy White and Ian Gold to pick from. A complete physical is a must with many of the guys left on the board as well as figuring out how well he fits into a system.

Safeties/cornerbacks
Forget finding a solid corner, unless you trade for Philadelphia's Lito Sheppard.

Who's left: For safeties, Eugene Wilson and Chris Crocker lead the way. Someone will sign cornerback Kelly Herndon before the season.

Expect some action on the restricted free agent class in the near future. Wideout Rashied Davis is a guy who requires no compensation, OG Jason Brown of the Ravens might be worth a second-round pick, CB Domonique Foxworth a third-rounder, and QB Ryan Fitzpatrick could probably be had for a seventh-round pick.