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Elvis
03-11-2008, 04:09 PM
I was just thinking earlier about this, and thought it might be interesting to see what everyone else thinks about it.

Baltimore Ravens Select 8th Over-all
My Pick: QB Matt Ryan or QB Brian Brohm from Boston College and Louisville respectively. I think that Ryan is the better of the 2, but will he be there at 8th? I dont think so, and it wouldnt suprise me to see the Ravens go RB here either.

Cincinnati Bengals Select 9th Over-all
If S Kenny Phillips is still here at this pick, the Bengals would be crazy Not to Pick him. But we all know how they are. I also think that DE and DB could be selected here.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 04:50 PM
Ravens could go QB, but Ryan should be gone and Brohm is a reach. I think they wait until round 2 to look at Henne or Flacco. They could go O line to replace Ogden (Clady or Otah) or DB needs some help (Rogers Cromartie or McKelvin)

The Bungles need to stop the run for once in the decade, so best available DT (Dorsey or Ellis) The drafted CB's the past 2 years high, so I doubt they do that. They need LB's too. Kenny Philips will be there around the top of the 2nd.

Elvis
03-11-2008, 04:54 PM
Boy Gonzo, if Kenny Phillips is still around when the Steelers select at 23rd, I would love to see him here in the Burgh' to lineup opposite Polomalu. I dont really think that Phillips will last that long myself, but maybe.
:helmet:

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Boy Gonzo, if Kenny Phillips is still around when the Steelers select at 23rd, I would love to see him here in the Burgh' to lineup opposite Polomalu. I dont really think that Phillips will last that long myself, but maybe.
:helmet:

Take a look at any mock lately and you probably will not see Phillips around the 1st round. Pro football weekly, NFL.com (Mike Mayock has him as his #2 safety), CNNSI, Mel Kiper doesnt have Phillips in his top 25 list, etc.

I dont need to see him at #23 either.

O-line, D-line are were #23 should be used on.

lilyoder6
03-11-2008, 06:37 PM
balt should take a wr in the 1st.. they have no play makes at wr core..

and the bengals need all the secondary help they can get

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-11-2008, 07:12 PM
Dont the bengals already have 2 first round picks in Jonathan Joseph & Leon Hall with Deltha O neal, Dexter Jackson also there? I doubt they draft a CB in the first.....but it is the bungles.

CantStop85
03-11-2008, 07:32 PM
I was just thinking earlier about this, and thought it might be interesting to see what everyone else thinks about it.

Baltimore Ravens Select 8th Over-all
My Pick: QB Matt Ryan or QB Brian Brohm from Boston College and Louisville respectively. I think that Ryan is the better of the 2, but will he be there at 8th? I dont think so, and it wouldnt suprise me to see the Ravens go RB here either.

Cincinnati Bengals Select 9th Over-all
If S Kenny Phillips is still here at this pick, the Bengals would be crazy Not to Pick him. But we all know how they are. I also think that DE and DB could be selected here.

Yeah, no way the Bengals pick up another secondary player in the first after drafting Johnathan Joseph and Leon Hall with their last two first rounders, not to mention Chinedum Ndukwe and Marvin White as safeties last year. Plus, Kenny Phillips would be a major reach at #9.

If Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis drop to them, they'll definitely pull the trigger, but that's looking more and more unlikely. Vernon Gholston would be next on their board, but he's not falling past those top 8 teams. If none of these players are there, the Bengals will either go with Phillip Merling, Derrick Harvey or Keith Rivers. My guess would be Phillip Merling.

The Ravens would love to get Matt Ryan, but he's not falling past Atlanta, and Brian Brohm is a reach at #8. Cornerback Leodis McKelvin would be my best guess, as Chris McAlister and Samari Rolle are on their last legs and the Ravens are pretty thin at this position. Also, Leodis is a good return man, which should appeal to John Harbaugh and his special teams background.

lilyoder6
03-11-2008, 10:32 PM
thats y there secondary still sucks??? if a DRC is still there they will draft him

BettisFan
03-11-2008, 11:06 PM
Baltimore needs a QB
Bungles need a Defensive tackle most likely

MDSteel15
03-12-2008, 09:56 AM
LOL... the Bungals will go defensive line with someone like Vernon Gholston or a LB like Keith Rivers. Defense up front has to be there 1st priority.

The Ravens should take Brian Brohm or Ryan Clady but I could see them taking Mike Jenkins or Leodis McKelvin.

MDSteel15
03-12-2008, 09:59 AM
thats y there secondary still sucks??? if a DRC is still there they will draft him

Their secondary doesn't suck, their D-line gets no pressure on the QB which leaves the DBs suspect.

lamberts-lost-tooth
03-12-2008, 10:25 AM
In a "Youth Movement"...Baltimore takes QB Jeff George, and will let him groom under McNair for 6 years.

The Bengals are more than happy to sign the recently "released" New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, he will wear Jersey #9.

The Browns trade away all future draft picks for the rights to Billy Crystal, should he ever decide to give up baseball. Word is that Brady Quinn and Crystal were seen outside a Gay Bar in Cleveland...telling patrons..."You look fabulous".

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 10:43 AM
In a "Youth Movement"...Baltimore takes QB Jeff George, and will let him groom under McNair for 6 years.

The Bengals are more than happy to sign the recently "released" New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, he will wear Jersey #9.

The Browns trade away all future draft picks for the rights to Billy Crystal, should he ever decide to give up baseball. Word is that Brady Quinn and Crystal were seen outside a Gay Bar in Cleveland...telling patrons..."You look fabulous".

I heard Billy's rights were going to the Jets, mabey just a rumor??? :flap:

lilyoder6
03-12-2008, 10:54 AM
so it goes both ways.. the d-line sucks and the secondary sucks.. hell the whole def blows at this point of the season

CantStop85
03-12-2008, 03:42 PM
Their secondary doesn't suck, their D-line gets no pressure on the QB which leaves the DBs suspect.

Give this man a cookie. It doesn't matter if you have Champ Bailey and Neon Deion in your secondary if the quarterback has all day to throw.

At least we finally got rid of Bustin Smith. :bouncy: But Ellis, Dorsey, or Gholston would go a long way in building a defense under Zimmer.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-12-2008, 05:53 PM
Give this man a cookie. It doesn't matter if you have Champ Bailey and Neon Deion in your secondary if the quarterback has all day to throw.

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You mean the Steelers might actually have good DB's ???? The reason they give up passing yards is because there is no pass rush from Keisel, Hampton, Smith, Hoke, Kirschke, Haggans, etc??? :dang:

Maybe somebody should tell this to the front office:banging:

CantStop85
03-13-2008, 11:28 PM
You mean the Steelers might actually have good DB's ???? The reason they give up passing yards is because there is no pass rush from Keisel, Hampton, Smith, Hoke, Kirschke, Haggans, etc??? :dang:

Maybe somebody should tell this to the front office:banging:

Having a pass rush does not necessarily mean that you will have good coverage. You also have to have some good players in your secondary. But, having at least something resembling a pass rush is essential for any type of coverage to work, regardless of who's out there to cover the receivers. Obviously the secondary is not the weakest link in Cincinnati; it's the front 7.

tony hipchest
03-13-2008, 11:39 PM
Obviously the secondary is not the weakest link in Cincinnati; it's the front 7.getting rid of l. johnson and j. smith should definitely help that out then. :dang:

Galax Steeler
03-25-2008, 10:09 AM
I would have to say they may take anybody because there whole team is weak anybody would be an upgrade.

Elvis
03-25-2008, 10:16 AM
Having a pass rush does not necessarily mean that you will have good coverage. You also have to have some good players in your secondary. But, having at least something resembling a pass rush is essential for any type of coverage to work, regardless of who's out there to cover the receivers. Obviously the secondary is not the weakest link in Cincinnati; it's the front 7.
Cantstop... I can understand why you dont know much about a passrush making your secondary better, because the Bengals dont know how to pressure the QB. So, let me fill you in on a clue that I have learned over the last 30 years or so of watching football.
A firoceous passrush will help any secondary that is weak because the passer, the QB, doesnt have as much time to take them apart. If you havent got a good passrush your secondary no matter how Good they are ... are Not going to cover for like 10 seconds or so.
Lets Review:
Good passrush takes care of weak secondary...
Aweful passrush Does Not Take Care of Weak Secondary...
:wink02:
:thumbsup:

CantStop85
03-25-2008, 11:39 AM
Cantstop... I can understand why you dont know much about a passrush making your secondary better, because the Bengals dont know how to pressure the QB. So, let me fill you in on a clue that I have learned over the last 30 years or so of watching football.
A firoceous passrush will help any secondary that is weak because the passer, the QB, doesnt have as much time to take them apart. If you havent got a good passrush your secondary no matter how Good they are ... are Not going to cover for like 10 seconds or so.
Lets Review:
Good passrush takes care of weak secondary...
Aweful passrush Does Not Take Care of Weak Secondary...
:wink02:
:thumbsup:

Uh, thank you, but that's what I already said. :dang:

Lord Stiller
03-25-2008, 12:19 PM
Baltimore should draft Anthony Morelli

he is the second coming of Kyle Boller

millwalldavey
03-25-2008, 08:11 PM
I can tell you what our division rivals can take...

Galax Steeler
03-29-2008, 07:47 PM
I can tell you what our division rivals can take...

I really don't care who our division rivals take.

19ward86
03-29-2008, 09:39 PM
Ratbirds-Ryan Clady if there or Chris Williams( no QB, Troy Smith is the future.)

Bungles-Sedrick Ellis or Keith Rivers

BettisFan
03-30-2008, 12:41 AM
Ratbirds-Ryan Clady if there or Chris Williams( no QB, Troy Smith is the future.)

Bungles-Sedrick Ellis or Keith Rivers

True that man, Troy is so underrated, I think he has a future in this league, i mean he was a Heisman winner! Just give the man some time, I think he will do better than Russell.

Texasteel
03-30-2008, 10:27 AM
Baltimore: QB / The Hulk: Big arm, is more dangerous when he runs the ball.

Cininnati: ? / Jack the Ripper: Not sure what position he will play but will fit into the club house perfectly.

Cleveland: / The Browns trade they pick for QB Carr stating that you can never have to meny 1st round backup QBs.

fansince'76
03-30-2008, 11:17 AM
True that man, Troy is so underrated, I think he has a future in this league, i mean he was a Heisman winner!

So were Gino Torretta, Danny Wuerffel and Chris Weinke. Anymore, a Heisman-winning QB is almost guaranteed to suck at the next level. However, I will agree that the Ratbirds do need to give him some time and that QB should not be considered an immediate need for them.

tony hipchest
03-30-2008, 12:15 PM
Baltimore: QB / The Hulk: Big arm, is more dangerous when he runs the ball.

Cininnati: ? / Jack the Ripper: Not sure what position he will play but will fit into the club house perfectly.

Cleveland: / The Browns trade they pick for QB Carr stating that you can never have to meny 1st round backup QBs.

:sofunny: very good, but i'd hate to see our rivals have a "perfect" draft.