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Aussie_steeler
03-21-2008, 02:57 AM
The top five wide receivers in this years draft are continuously changing their positions in the rankings. The reason I ask this question is that I feel that if someone like Kelly was available at #23 and the top 5 OT's and Albert are gone it could be a hard pick to pass up. Kelly, Sweed or Hardy would all keep Big Ben very happy.

I have not seen film of any of these players so it is near impossible for me to make anything other than a statistically based guess. I would like to hear your rankings with explanations.

Here are there current rankings courtesy of NFLDRAFTSCOUT.COM



Devin Thomas Michigan State 6'2" 215lb 4.40
2007: Started all thirteen games at flanker, in addition to seeing action at tailback while also handling kickoff return duties? Set a school season-record with 79 receptions, good for 1,260 yards (15.9 avg) and eight touchdowns?Rushed 27 times for 177 yards (6.6 avg) and totaled 18 yards on seven punt returns (2.6 avg)?Recorded two tackles, attempted one pass and scored 48 points?Led the Big Ten and ranked 11th nationally with 39 kickoff returns for a Big Ten season-record 1,135 yards (29.1 avg)?Set a school season-record with 2,590 all-purpose yards, the second-best total in Big Ten annals, as he averaged 199.23 yards per game?Gained over 100 yards receiving in seven contests, a new school season-record?Registered 54 plays of 20-plus yards (2 rushing; 21 receptions; 31 kick returns).

Desean Jackson Cal 5'10" 169lb 4.35
2007: Semi-finalist for the Biletnikoff Award, given to the nation's top receiver? Bothered most of the year by a badly sprained left thumb that he suffered in the season opener vs. Tennessee, as he was forced to wear a cast in practices and have his hand heavily wrapped during games, but still went on to catch a career-high 65 passes for 762 yards (11.7 avg) and six touchdowns?Also suffered a deep thigh/quadriceps contusion that forced him to miss the second half vs. Washington and sit out the season finale vs. Stanford?Ranked fifth in the league with an average of 5.42 receptions per game and 13th with an average of 85.25 all-purpose yards each contest?Gained 132 yards with a touchdown on eleven carries (12.0 avg)?Returned twelve punts for 129 yards (10.8 avg) and a score. 13 GP; 13 GS; Rush: 5-19-3.8-0; Rec: 59-1060-18-9; PR 26-455-17.5-4 KR 2-38-19-0; A first team All-Pac-10 selection as a wide receiver and as a punt returner in '06. 11 GP; 10 GS; Rush: 8-48-6-0; Rec: 38-601-15.8-7; PR: 1-49-49-1; Led the Bears with 38 catches and 601 yards in '05. Considered an outstanding baseball player with big-league potential. Brother, Byron, played professional football with the NFL?s Kansas City Chiefs in 1992-93.

Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma 6'4" 224lb 4.54
2007 All-Big Twelve Conference second-team choice by the league's coaches?Started all fourteen games at split end, finishing second on the team with 49 receptions for 821 yards (16.8 avg) and nine touch-downs, ranking 15th in the league with an average of 58.64 yards per game?Scored 54 points and recorded one solo tackle?Of the 83 passes targeted to him, he dropped only one throw and had eleven tosses deflected by the opposition?Was penalized three times, but helped convert 9-of-23 third-down plays that he was involved in?Registered 36 first downs among his 49 receptions, as 31 of those grabs were for 10 yards or longer, including 15 for more that 20 yards?Had big catches that set up sixteen touchdown drives and one other that ended with a field goal. 14 GP; 13 GS; Rec: 62-993-16-10; All-Big 12 second team in '06. 11 GP; 6 GS; Rec: 33-471-14.3-2; All-Big 12 honorable mention, Freshman All-American in '05.

Limas Sweed Texas 6'4" 215 lbs 4.48
2007: A preaseason All-American and All-Big Twelve Conference first-team selection, Sweed struggled with a nagging wrist injury since spring camp that carried over into fall drills and limited his playing time in the team's first six games of the season before missing the second half of the campaign to undergo surgery on October 16th?Earned a Frank Medina Rehabilitation Award and was named on of UT's Outstanding Wide Receivers?Started the team's first six games at split end, extending his starting streak to 39 consecutive games before he was sidelined?Finished with a career-low nineteen catches for 306 yards (16.1 avg) and three touchdowns?Had 39 passes targeted to him, with three being deflected by the opposition?Twelve of his receptions were good for first downs, but he managed to convert just 2-of-12 third-down passes thrown to him?Added one more conversion on a fourth-down play?Ten of his grabs were longer than 10 yards each, including five for 20 yards or more?Also carried once on a reverse for a 1-yard loss. 13 GP; 13 GS; Rec: 46-801-17.4-12; Started all 13 games, first-team All-Big 12 in '06. 13 GP; 13 GS; Rec: 36-545-15.1-5; started all 13 games, honorable mention All-Big 12 in '05. 11 GP; 7 GS; Rec: 23-263-11.4-0 in '04. Redshirted in '03.

James Hardy Indiana 6'6" 217lbs 4.45
2007: All-Big Ten Conference first-team choice?Named the league's Offensive Player of the Year by Rivals.com?Set school season-records with 79 catches for 1,125 yards (14.2 avg) and sixteen touchdowns?Ranked tied for second in the Big Ten with an average of 6.08 receptions per game and third with an average of 86.54 yards per contest?Scored 96 points, tying for fourth on the school's season-record list?Had a total of 144 passes targeted to him, as 21 of those throws were deflected by the opposition and he also turned the ball over twice on fumbles after catches?53 of his 79 receptions were good for first downs, as he converted 22-of-44 third-down passes targeted to him?Made twelve of his catches inside the red zone, including seven on goal-line plays?Had 17 catches for 20 yards or longer and key receptions that set up 21 touchdown drives and four others that resulted in field goals. 10 GP; 8 GS; Rec: 51-722-14.2-10; HM All-Big 10 in '06. Suspended two games in '06. 10 GP; 10 GS; Rec: 61-893-14.6-10; Second team all-league selection and Freshman All-American in '05. Redshirt in '04.

Look forward to your opinions.:cheers:

MDSteel15
03-21-2008, 09:51 AM
I don't trust your 1st two WRs no matter what the "experts" say... I'd put Doucet in there with the other 3 along with a fast rising Jordy Nelson(bias)....:jammin:

19ward86
03-21-2008, 10:40 AM
1.Devin Thomas
2.Malcom Kelly
3.Limas Sweed
4.Desean Jackson
5.James Hardy

Dylan
03-21-2008, 11:27 AM
1. Malcom Kelly
2.Early Dooucet
3. Limas Sweeed
4. James Hardy
5. Desean Jackson

Black@Gold Forever32
03-21-2008, 04:37 PM
Hardy will be a beast....He is my favorite WR in this draft....

MDSteel15
03-21-2008, 07:51 PM
Hardy will be a beast....He is my favorite WR in this draft....

HOMER...lol

MDSteel15
03-21-2008, 07:52 PM
1. Malcom Kelly
2.Early Dooucet
3. Limas Sweeed
4. James Hardy
5. Desean Jackson

Looks about right! :thumbsup:

lamberts-lost-tooth
03-22-2008, 04:25 AM
1) Limas Sweed, 6'4 216. Combine 40 Time: 4.46. Vertical: 35.
2) Devin Thomas 6'1 215. Combine 40 Time: 4.32. Vertical: 33.
3) DeSean Jackson 5'9 169 Combine 40 Time: 4.31. Vertical: 34.5
4) Malcolm Kelly 6'3 224. Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
5) James Hardy 6'5 217 Combine 40 Time: 4.47. Vertical: 37.

revefsreleets
03-22-2008, 02:42 PM
My rule of thumb (and it's not perfect, but as good an indicator as any) is YPC. If it ain't flirting with 15+, the guy will probably fail at the next level. It's nearly impossible to know whether or not the guy can gain separation in the NFL. the only stat I've ever seen that is any kind of accurate barometer from college to pro is YPC (and even that is tenuous at best).

Example: Chad Jackson out of Florida was a horrible reach for the Pats (2nd round) in 2006. He only averaged like 10.5 a catch, and he couldn't cut it on the Pats.

MasterOfPuppets
03-22-2008, 03:03 PM
My rule of thumb (and it's not perfect, but as good an indicator as any) is YPC. If it ain't flirting with 15+, the guy will probably fail at the next level. It's nearly impossible to know whether or not the guy can gain separation in the NFL. the only stat I've ever seen that is any kind of accurate barometer from college to pro is YPC (and even that is tenuous at best).

Example: Chad Jackson out of Florida was a horrible reach for the Pats (2nd round) in 2006. He only averaged like 10.5 a catch, and he couldn't cut it on the Pats.but yet dallas baker averaged 15.3 YPC, and can't seem to earn a uniform on sundays..........:scratchchin:

revefsreleets
03-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Like I said, it ain't perfect. Baker also had a ton of questions surrounding him and hung around until the end of the draft, so there IS that...

Aussie_steeler
03-22-2008, 07:03 PM
Malcolm Kelly update March 18, 2008 5:45 PM Matt Mosely ESPN

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/hashmarks

I just received an email from one of Oklahoma receiver Malcolm Kelly's representatives backing up what we reported yesterday. Kelly will hold his own pro day on April 9 in Norman at 11 a.m. ET.

We're told that Malcolm has visits set up with the Bills (March 18, 19) Vikings (April 10), Steelers (April 11), Cowboys (April 17, 18) and Redskins (April 10). Right now, we've dropped Kelly out of the top 20, but he could definitely rally with a strong workout


Setting up another smokescreen for the #23 pick or could they be seriously interested in a tall wide receiver with the first round pick?