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CantStop85
03-24-2008, 01:04 AM
Bengals at the center of trade rumors

By Carlos "Big C" Holmes
Cox News Service
March 23, 2008


With the NFL draft a little more than a month away, trade rumors are running rampant throughout the league and the Cincinnati Bengals seem to be in the thick of things. The Bengals, who have missed out on signing some key free agents including three of their own, have been the subject of conversation when it comes to these rumors.

Interest in Alexander

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There have been reports that the Bengals could have an interest in Seattle Seahawks RB Shaun Alexander whose future with the club appears to be in jeopardy. The Seahawks replenished their backfield this offseason with the signing of free agent running backs T.J. Duckett and Julius Jones. This could be a sign that Alexander is on his way out.

Alexander is due to make $4.475 million in base salary for the '08 season and would count $6.75 million against the Seahawks' salary cap. Based on those figures alone Alexander is likely to be a salary cap casualty unless he agrees to restructure his contract.

Alexander turns 31 years old in August and his numbers have been declining for the past two seasons. Not many teams would be willing to pay top dollar for an injury-prone, has-been running back.

Dump Rudi?

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Word on the street is that the Bengals are looking to jump start their running game after a lackluster performance by RB Rudi Johnson in the '07 season ... not to mention the chunk of change he stands to make in '08. The Bengals may look to dump Rudi and the $3.2 million he is scheduled to make this season. Bottom line, Rudi could be a post-June 1 release.

Alexander may not be the answer for the Bengals, but another back might.

Will they move up?

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Rumors are circulating that the Bengals may consider moving up the draft board to select Arkansas RB Darren McFadden if he slips past the Oakland Raiders who sit at the No. 4 slot.

McFadden's stock is said to be dipping a bit, but no way does he fall to No. 9 where the Bengals currently pick. In order to secure a legitimate shot at McFadden, the Bengals would have to leapfrog the New York Jets at No. 6 who love him like a fat kid loves cake.

Bengal fans shouldn't be at all surprised if the team opts to choose a running back with their first selection rather than address a more obvious need like defensive tackle or offensive tackle.

The team went against the popular consensus in the 2004 draft when they selected Michigan RB Chris Perry. History could repeat itself if the cards play out in the Bengals' favor on draft day.

Keep in mind that Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis is a firm believer that if you always draft by need at some point you're going to get your feelings hurt. You know what, he's right.

Fans, don't get all caught up in the draft hype that the Bengals are eyeing one of the premiere D-tackles in the first-round because you may get your feelings hurt.

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Rumors of the Bengals trading WR Chad Johnson to the St. Louis Rams in return for WR Torry Holt and a draft pick are just that. Rams head coach Scott Linehan quickly put the kibosh on any trade scenario involving the team's star receiver about a week ago.

"There's no interest, no discussions about trading Torry Holt," Linehan said. "He's on our team, we want him on our team, and I hope he feels the same way."

Out of all the trade rumors linked to the flamboyant Johnson, I find this one to be the most intriguing. Holt is a very fine receiver and a class act to boot. He's a leader in the locker room as well as on the field and is a consummate professional. The best word to describe Holt is unselfish. He would be a welcome addition in Cincinnati.

Although Holt is nearly two years older than Johnson, he's an extremely hard worker and has kept himself in tip-top shape. Talking to those within the Rams organization who know him best said that Holt is showing no signs of slowing down.

Front office change

Whispers are that there may be a change in the way the Bengals organization conducts their ironclad business. Some people may describe the team's current negotiating practice as being cheap, but I'm sure the Bengals front office views it much differently. I think they like to call it smart money management.

Either way changes are expected to be made at the top and are believed to be for the betterment of the organization.

http://www.bigcprofootball.com/articles/viewarticle.php?id=1082

Preacher
03-24-2008, 01:57 AM
Granted this is in the right place...

But I am still not sure why we should care about this thread.

The Duke
03-24-2008, 02:03 AM
If the bengals get alexander I'll be happy to see him take a handoff and fall just before just before casey hampton crushes him. seriously, that would be a terrible pick up, shaun is past his prime, it was funny(and sometimes sad) to see him try to run last season.

as a backup though he may work, but he looks like damaged goods in too many aspects.

the Bengals would have to leapfrog the New York Jets at No. 6 who love him like a fat kid loves cake.

:sofunny:

mcfadden on the bungles.....doesn't he have a criminal past? lol . he would definitely take some of the load off palmer's shoulders

what's the word on kenny irons anyway?

Crushzilla
03-24-2008, 02:19 AM
Why would the Rams ever trade Holt and a draft pick for Chad Johnson?

Johnson is the streakiest WR I've ever seen. He'll have a HUGE game and then disappear for 3 weeks.

Rudi Johnson is a solid RB, just because he had one mediocre season, he's gonna get the ax? The even more ridiculous part is that he may be out to bring in a guy who had an even more pathetic season in Alexander?

There's no way the Bengals take McFadden. A.) As mentioned, they'd have to leapfrog the Jets, and that probably won't happen. B.) Why would they draft a RB in the first round. Anyone can see that they need defense. :hunch:

Looks like the rumor mill at the "prestigious" Cox News Agency smells faintly of :poop:

CantStop85
03-24-2008, 07:07 AM
If the bengals get alexander I'll be happy to see him take a handoff and fall just before just before casey hampton crushes him. seriously, that would be a terrible pick up, shaun is past his prime, it was funny(and sometimes sad) to see him try to run last season.

as a backup though he may work, but he looks like damaged goods in too many aspects.



:sofunny:

mcfadden on the bungles.....doesn't he have a criminal past? lol . he would definitely take some of the load off palmer's shoulders

what's the word on kenny irons anyway?
The word is Kenny Irons may noy be 100% by the time the season starts. It's still unsure if he'll be able to return to form or not.

Galax Steeler
03-24-2008, 08:01 AM
shaun alexander.
:toofunny::toofunny:

CantStop85
03-24-2008, 09:30 AM
shaun alexander.
:toofunny::toofunny:

The only way I would like the acquisition of Shaun Alexander is if they cut Rudi Johnson.

Rudi Johnson is done, IMO. I think Alexander has a little bit more in the tank if used in backup role. If it weren't for the need and availability of Glenn Dorsey and Sedrick Ellis in the first round, then I would be all for drafting Darren McFadden, as the Bengals have a lot of questions at RB.

revefsreleets
03-24-2008, 09:40 AM
The Rams are not insane...you don't dump a HOF WR who's total class for a selfish jackass who punches coaches, and the draft pick added was hilarious! I would think it would be the other way around if anything, as Holt brings a lot more to the table.

The only serious piece of business listed here was the Bengals moving up McFadden. That would seriously bolster their running game, as I expect he's going to be the real deal playing on Sundays...

CantStop85
03-24-2008, 10:58 AM
The Rams are not insane...you don't dump a HOF WR who's total class for a selfish jackass who punches coaches, and the draft pick added was hilarious! I would think it would be the other way around if anything, as Holt brings a lot more to the table.
lol yeah, I really doubt the Rams would make that kind of move...I would take it in a heart beat though. The only down side is that Holt is older and not quite as explosive anymore, but he doesn't carry all the baggage.

The only serious piece of business listed here was the Bengals moving up McFadden. That would seriously bolster their running game, as I expect he's going to be the real deal playing on Sundays...

I expect that something will happen in the running back department. A cut of Rudi is very possible. If they do that, drafting McFadden is a huge possibility and if they go elsewhere in the draft, Shaun Alexander becomes a viable option, as he's from Northern Kentucky and the Bengals have thought about going after him before.

Personally, I will be really upset if we don't get either Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, or Darren McFadden in the first round.

Dino 6 Rings
03-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Um...if the Rams are completely insane and do attempt to make this trade...I'd love it, because that means they may give up my man (yes, admitted man crush) Steven Jackson for a 5th round pick in 2012's draft and a player to be named later...yes...do it, show me Rams you are completely out of your mind.

as for Drafting McFadden...the kid is a stud, I felt the same way about Peterson last season, anyone who doesn't draft him is missing a serious home run threat. Oh, and I believe Al Davis has McFadden all lined up in his sites. No way crazy Al allows D-Mac to get past him at #2. No way.

CantStop85
03-25-2008, 02:30 PM
Marvin Lewis talking about Chad on NFL Network:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80761c25

Summary: "We will not listen to trade offers for Chad Johnson, he will not be traded...he signed a contract and if he wants a chance to play professional football it will be right here in Cincinnati. If he doesn't want to play he can sit out on the bench and the team will be prepared to play without him."

stlrtruck
03-25-2008, 02:47 PM
Marvin Lewis has said some pretty discipline things in the past only to skate on them later. We'll see if he can hold up to this one or not.

rbryan
03-25-2008, 03:58 PM
S Alexander will retire before he goes to any team where he'll have to face the Steelers and Ravens 4 times a year. That guy should be in the Guiness Book of Records for being the softest, weakest RB in history to ever become MVP/rushing leader.

Theres a better chance of him winning "dancing with the stars" with Joey from the back street boys as his partner.

tony hipchest
03-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Marvin Lewis talking about Chad on NFL Network:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80761c25

Summary: "We will not listen to trade offers for Chad Johnson, he will not be traded...he signed a contract and if he wants a chance to play professional football it will be right here in Cincinnati. If he doesn't want to play he can sit out on the bench and the team will be prepared to play without him."unfortunately, rev. marv isnt fooling nobody. everyone knows "ocho kitchen sinko" runs that team.

stillers4me
03-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Alexander is a local northern Kentucky boy. It isn't a stretch to see him signing with the Bengals.

revefsreleets
03-25-2008, 05:02 PM
The net effect of all this? Bengals are going somewhere between 2-14 and 4-12 this year, just like almost every other year.

Galax Steeler
03-26-2008, 06:13 PM
S Alexander will retire before he goes to any team where he'll have to face the Steelers and Ravens 4 times a year. That guy should be in the Guiness Book of Records for being the softest, weakest RB in history to ever become MVP/rushing leader.

Theres a better chance of him winning "dancing with the stars" with Joey from the back street boys as his partner.

Who knows the beatings he has taken over the years he might be dumb enough to play for the bungholes.

CantStop85
04-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Chad Update:

Lewis: Bengals prepared to move on without disgruntled Johnson
ESPN.com news services

Updated: April 1, 2008, 2:57 PM ET

If Chad Johnson decides to sit out the season, Cincinnati Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said Tuesday the team is prepared to move on without him.

"We've been dealing with this inside for over a year and we'll be prepared to move on," Lewis told reporters, according to the team's Web site. "He has a contract through 2011. If he plays NFL football it will be in Cincinnati, or he has to do what he says and that's retire. That would be a shame. We'll do everything we can to help him out of this and try to restore his image."

Lewis reiterated Tuesday that the team has no plans to trade Johnson, but he's willing to welcome Johnson back to the team if he changes his tune.

"It's unfortunate that Chad has put himself in that situation because a lot of people who really had affection for him now see him in a different light," Lewis said, according to the Cincinnati Enquirer.

"Hopefully some of the things he said, he's going to have to face one way or another. If he shows and does things, and does [them] the right way, I'm willing to take the bullets for him again and allow him to come back the right way."

The Bengals head coach called on his team not to let the Johnson distraction affect them.

"The rest of the team has to grow up and understand that whether it's your first-round pick, whether it's the guy in the last year of his contract and feels like he needs a new contract in order to play, sometimes these things happen and every guy judges it differently," Lewis said, according to the team's Web site. "They've got to be professionals and be prepared and I've told them not to worry about all this other stuff.

"They've had to deal with it already with the perception that's been there with that. It can't continue to be an issue with you. Let it go. It is where it is. Right now it's not there, so don't worry about it. Let's move forward."

Johnson stopped talking to the local media last season, but went on national interview shows before the Super Bowl and again last month reiterating that he feels unappreciated. Johnson has said repeatedly that he'd like to play for another team.

The Bengals would take a huge hit to their salary cap if they traded him. Johnson has four years left on his contract, which was extended in April 2006. He will make $3 million in base salary next season, and can make $18.5 million over the rest of the deal.

He caught 93 passes for a club-record 1,440 yards and eight touchdowns last season, when he became the Bengals' career leader in catches and yards.

revefsreleets
04-01-2008, 06:09 PM
Make it 2-14 then.

BettisFan
04-01-2008, 06:36 PM
Rudi could be a great pick up for a team, he still has gas he was just on a crappy team

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
04-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Looks like Lewis is finally getting a backbone.


Chad Update:

Lewis: Bengals prepared to move on without disgruntled Johnson
ESPN.com news services

Updated: April 1, 2008, 2:57 PM ET

If Chad Johnson decides to sit out the season, Cincinnati Bengals coach Marvin Lewis said Tuesday the team is prepared to move on without him.

"We've been dealing with this inside for over a year and we'll be prepared to move on," Lewis told reporters, according to the team's Web site. "He has a contract through 2011. If he plays NFL football it will be in Cincinnati, or he has to do what he says and that's retire. That would be a shame. We'll do everything we can to help him out of this and try to restore his image."

ShutDown24
04-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Did Cincy sign Ced yet??????
:toofunny:

BettisFan
04-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Lets get Chad...

here comes the bashing

19ward86
04-01-2008, 10:01 PM
distractions distractions...we all fall down(my ring around the rosie parody).

fansince'76
04-01-2008, 10:03 PM
Lets get Chad...

How about let's not and say we did.

Galax Steeler
04-02-2008, 04:15 AM
How about let's not and say we did.

:iagree:

lilyoder6
04-02-2008, 09:46 AM
talent wise chad is a very good wr.. but i don't understand y chad doesn't buyout the rest of his contract to get out like lavar arrington did 4 the skins..

Willem Gerber
04-02-2008, 10:18 AM
This will never never happen. Holt is ten the player Chad will ever be. Holt never complains

BettisFan
04-02-2008, 01:55 PM
How about let's not and say we did.

I dont understand why you wouldnt want him? He is a great WR one of the best in the League, he has some personality problems but is a great player! I mean we are keeping James why not get Chad?

stlrtruck
04-02-2008, 02:06 PM
I dont understand why you wouldnt want him? He is a great WR one of the best in the League, he has some personality problems but is a great player! I mean we are keeping James why not get Chad?

Can you say, "CANCER!"

Besides then Hines Ward would have to take months to teach this guy how to actually block and play aggressive football when he knows the ball isn't coming his way...

In three more words....NO WORTH IT!!!

The Duke
04-02-2008, 03:07 PM
Can you say, "CANCER!"

Besides then Hines Ward would have to take months to teach this guy how to actually block and play aggressive football when he knows the ball isn't coming his way...

In three more words....NO WORTH IT!!!

months?? nah, I'd say he'd never learn it :flap:

the guy's soft, I don't think I've ever seen him succesfully block someone, therefore he'd suck on the steelers