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jtmill
03-31-2008, 09:56 AM
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO ... GREG LLOYD
Ex-NFL player fights to restore ties with his kids

By JOHN HOLLIS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/31/08

You don't just waltz right into the Oh Do Kwan Martial Arts Center.

Not unless you want to meet intimidating former NFL linebacker Greg Lloyd up close and personal.

Greg Lloyd, former linebacker for the Pittsburgh Steelers, works with kids in his tae kwon do class in Fayetteville.

Students are required to bow as a gesture of respect when first entering the building and then again to the American flag before taking to the floor.

"It's a requirement, but it's about respect," said Lloyd, a fourth-degree black belt in tae kwon do who has been teaching at the Fayetteville school since 1998.

"Respect for others and respect for themselves."

That intensity and rigid adherence to the minutest detail is what helped make Lloyd a five-time Pro Bowler during a standout 12-year NFL career spent mostly with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

They're also among the personal characteristics that his ex-wife Rhonda cited when she had Lloyd arrested after accusing him of shoving a gun into his son's mouth in 2001 and of pointing a gun at her head a year later.

Lloyd, a Fort Valley native who first took up tae kwon do in the late 1980s, has insisted the charges were trumped up because of the acrimonious divorce the couple was going through at the time.

He maintains his innocence of all charges.

"I can't stop one woman from being bitter and trying to ruin my life," he said during a recent interview.

Greg Lloyd Jr. was 15 at the time authorities alleged that his father shoved the gun in his mouth as punishment for his poor grades.

His father was tried twice on a charge of aggravated assault, but never convicted.

The elder Lloyd did plead no contest in 2004 to a simple battery charge resulting from the alleged December 2002 incident involving his ex-wife, however. He says he regrets that decision, which he now attributes to poor advice from his attorney at the time.

By then, Rhonda Lloyd already had taken out a restraining order against her ex-husband, so he hasn't seen any of the couple's three children — James, Tiana or Greg Jr. — since 2003.

A ferocious defensive playmaker who helped carry the Steelers to Super Bowl XXX in 1996, Greg Lloyd objects to the assumption by some that he and the person they saw play on the field every Sunday were one and the same.

Football "is a violent game," he said. "It still is a violent game. I made a living from playing football, but that's not who I really am."

Joaquin Bonilla, a fifth-degree black belt who runs the Oh Do Kwan school, knew the entire Lloyd family.

He stuck by the former football player when his legal troubles began.

"It wasn't fair," Bonilla said. "What happened to him was not right, but I was never going to give up on him. I was looking at a guy I knew was innocent."

Even years later, Lloyd, 42, now remarried with two stepchildren, is still going rounds with his ex-wife.

He's still trying to retrieve some of the $80,000 he accuses her of taking from their joint account, not to mention the $12,000 Rolex watch and wedding ring he alleges she also possesses.

Efforts to reach Rhonda Lloyd for this story were unsuccessful.

Steve Harris, her Fayetteville-based attorney, did not return two phone calls seeking comment.

Greg Lloyd hopes to someday cement the fragmented pieces of his own family by first resuming a relationship with his oldest son, who will be a sophomore weakside linebacker this fall at the University of Connecticut.

In the meantime, the once-feared linebacker who was named to the Pittsburgh Steelers' 75th anniversary team last fall continues to make a name for himself.

Only now as "Master Lloyd."

Still physically fit at a sculpted 6 feet 2 inches tall and weighing 242 pounds, Lloyd teaches two classes per week to youngsters who weren't even alive when he first began terrorizing NFL quarterbacks and ball carriers.

He is more father figure than coach, often dispensing life lessons he hopes they will take with them.

Several of his charges were among the school's 18 students who competed at the recent regional tae kwon do championships in Atlanta, winning 12 gold medals while qualifying 17 for this summer's national championships in Madison, Wis.

Lloyd, however, said he wants nothing more than just to eventually put things right with his own family.

"All I want is what's mine," he said. "I want to be left alone, and I want my relationship with my kids."

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PisnNapalm
03-31-2008, 10:23 AM
Excellent... Thanks for posting this. He's always been a favorite Steeler of mine.

NJarhead
03-31-2008, 10:48 AM
Great story. I'm glad he's doing well, and I believe him to be innocent.

BlastFurnace
03-31-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm not sure what to think about Greg.

I can understand the problems with the ex-wife, but, according to an article I read in another magazine, his son wants nothing to do with him as well.

I loved him as a player, but not so much beyond that.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm not sure what to think about Greg.

I can understand the problems with the ex-wife, but, according to an article I read in another magazine, his son wants nothing to do with him as well.

I loved him as a player, but not so much beyond that.

Yeah, I'm in the same camp. Can be a legal "he said, she said" but when your kids want nothing to do with you.....it might be a sign of things.

Great player, tough guy.....but I never confuse admiring somebodys athletic ability with their personal ability.

Joe Montana may be the greatest QB ever, but he divorced wife #2 by leaving her a message at the 49ers front desk. Now that is a classy guy I admire:yawn:

19ward86
03-31-2008, 01:34 PM
nice post.

Elvis
03-31-2008, 01:49 PM
Great story. I'm glad he's doing well, and I believe him to be innocent.
If he actually put the gun to the childs mouth or anything for that matter, then he Is Not Innocent by No Means! As far as him 5 years later fighting over a stupid ring and letting that come between him and his 3 children, not just JR... This guy was a pretty darn good player, but a dad/father he Is Not
:jawdrop:

The_WARDen
03-31-2008, 03:40 PM
he sounds like a zero to me.

:dang:

brsteelers
03-31-2008, 03:50 PM
These things are always impossible to figure out. A son could want nothing to do with their father because the mother poisoned his thoughts on his dad. Then again, it could be for very legitimate reasons.

In the end, we'll never know because we weren't there. But as a player, you had to love watching Lloyd.

As a person? Who knows.

millwalldavey
03-31-2008, 05:35 PM
I sceond it... great player... dunno about his personal life.

Steeler in Carolina
03-31-2008, 06:21 PM
Thanks for the article. Very good reading.

SteelersMongol
03-31-2008, 09:46 PM
... A son could want nothing to do with their father because the mother poisoned his thoughts on his dad ...

That's exactly what I was going to say. I could see it happening. My best friend's ex left him with his daugther. But according to what I got out of my friend, his ex is a DEVIL! She not only took away the girl, and now she's using her to get more money from him and there is this lawsuit thing going on. Some people...

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2008, 11:08 PM
Of course its possible that a kid can be influenced to hate his dad by his mothers feedback.

Its also possible that Greg Lloyd could have taken a gun and pulled it on his kid.....the guy was one of the meanest SOB's that ever played.

You ever see video of him wanting to kick the crap out of "Johnny" in pop warner just because Johnny's parents were cheering him on and Lloyd had nobody cheering him?? Its gold....but in retrospect, its disturbing.

Galax Steeler
04-01-2008, 03:40 AM
Great story.

BlastFurnace
04-01-2008, 09:10 AM
Of course its possible that a kid can be influenced to hate his dad by his mothers feedback.

Its also possible that Greg Lloyd could have taken a gun and pulled it on his kid.....the guy was one of the meanest SOB's that ever played.

You ever see video of him wanting to kick the crap out of "Johnny" in pop warner just because Johnny's parents were cheering him on and Lloyd had nobody cheering him?? Its gold....but in retrospect, its disturbing.

I wish I knew where the article was that I read, but it also states that Greg Lloyd Jr. is literally scared of his father. I know one parent can brainwash a child against another parent, but a child does not live in fear of his father and want nothing to do with him unless there is a good reason.

I'm glad that Lloyd has his life together, but there has to be some truth to what has been reported as to what happened with his son. Good intentions or not, there are much better & effective ways to communicate with your family than violence and anger.

NJarhead
04-01-2008, 09:55 PM
If he actually put the gun to the childs mouth or anything for that matter, then he Is Not Innocent by No Means! As far as him 5 years later fighting over a stupid ring and letting that come between him and his 3 children, not just JR... This guy was a pretty darn good player, but a dad/father he Is Not
:jawdrop:

Key word is "IF." I find it hard to believe that with all the accusations, he's never been convicted of a thing. Maybe he's guilty of marrying a crazy woman? We really don't know for sure.

SteelerFanInATL
04-02-2008, 05:06 AM
I saw G/L in one of the big Mega Churches here in ATL. I was sitting right behind him and knew that he was a pro athlete from this build. The big pro size ring on his finger was another key indicator. It was only after the service that I realized who it was. I know this has nothing to do with this thread, but hey.

Kindjunior
04-02-2008, 09:34 AM
The only FACTS we have about Greg Lloyd are the things that we saw with our own two eyes. A domestic situation like he has can be spun many different ways and always leaves alot of hard feelings. Personally I choose not to judge him on speculation and rumor but on the incredible football player that he was.