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steelymcmatt
04-14-2008, 07:23 AM
I'm seriously developing a real man crush on this guy. I think he's got Steeler written all over him! I haven't seen him play, but he sounds like a better prospect then Otah. What do you all think?

After starting 37 consecutive games at right tackle, Gosder Cherilus moved to the demanding left tackle position as a senior. It is an understatement to say that he struggled most of the year at that position.

Penalties -- seven total and four vs. Notre Dame -- were his worst enemy. Cherlius allowed 5 1/2 quarterback sacks and four pressures, acceptable totals when the offense throws the ball 659 times in a season.

With his limited change-of-direction agility, along with a solid reputation as a mauler for the ground game, Cherilus would welcome a return to right tackle at the next level. The Haitian is a tireless worker and with patient coaching, he could join the long line of steady Boston College offensive linemen now playing in the NFL. Cherilus closed out his career with 51 consecutive starts for the Eagles, establishing a new school record.

Cherilus was a Boston Globe and Boston Herald All-Scholastic selection as a senior at Somerville High School, where he played tackle on both sides of the ball. He was named to Tom Lemming's All-American team in 2002, the same season that he captured All-State accolades from the Massachusetts State Coaches Association. Cherilus also participated on Somerville's basketball and track teams.

Cherilus spent the 2003 season at Boston College performing with the scout team, as the coaches afforded him an extra year to fully recover from right knee surgery. He was the only redshirt freshman to start on BC's offensive line in 2004, helping the team average 385.4 yards per game in total offense.

As a sophomore, he started all 13 games at right tackle, delivering 53 knockdown blocks. The Eagles went on to lead the Atlantic Coast Conference in total offense, averaging 387.75 yards per game.

In 2006, his drive-blocking skills saw the team have at least one 100-yard rusher in seven games. Cherilus made 79 knockdowns, along with 10 touchdown-resulting blocks. With the right tackle leading the way, the Eagles averaged 355.6 yards per game. He also made a key tackle vs. Navy in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

The recipient of the team's Unsung Hero Award in 2007, Cherilus also garnered All-Atlantic Coast Conference second-team honors. With the ground game a liability, the team took to the air, ranking seventh in the nation with an average of 323.9 passing yards per game. Even though he struggled with his timing, the left tackle came up with 77 knockdowns and 12 touchdown-resulting blocks in 14 games.

millwalldavey
04-14-2008, 04:28 PM
I like him on paper... ive heard some negatives on this guy as well... kinda keeping me from being sold.

steelymcmatt
04-14-2008, 06:26 PM
I like him on paper... ive heard some negatives on this guy as well... kinda keeping me from being sold.

What are his negatives?

TheWarDen86
04-14-2008, 07:18 PM
I think he started in football later in life than most but, I like him too. He's being groomed by an old NY Jet great (can't remember who). They were talking about him on the radio and I really liked what I was hearing.


:hatsoff: <--- Who's this guy??? Hey, we have new emotioncons! Cool, now I don't have search for the ROTF guy anymore.

millwalldavey
04-14-2008, 08:42 PM
What are his negatives?

Not good against speed rushers, penalty-prone (as a senior...) technique is not solid.

Everything I see says he can be good but not great. Maybe I get stuck wanting an all-pro at every position... who knows... I like his size and the BC pedigree.

Fordy
04-14-2008, 08:51 PM
He went up against some great DE in the ACC and faired pretty well. Id be happy to draft him. I just hope we pick any of the good OL in the 1st round. most likely the ones left for us will be Williams from Vandy and Cherilus.."Gosder Cherilus" plus he has a great name:thumbsup:

Texasteel
04-14-2008, 09:00 PM
I watched Cherilus several times this years, he was a kid that I really thought could be the Steelers 1st round pick.

I thought that he had a lot of trouble with quicker guys, I thought that he did not seem to get off the line quickly on running plays, and that he seem to not be able to overpower DEs that he should be stronger than. Being uncomfortable on the left side could have caused all of this.

Now this was his 1st year at LT and I think that he would do much better on the right side. Having said that, I don't think I would want him at 23. If we could trade down and get him with a 2nd round pick, or maybe even a late 1st rounder I probably would be in favor of that.

Mind you that people a lot smarter than I am do not agree with this, but it is the way I see it.

millwalldavey
04-14-2008, 09:05 PM
Most people think he's better on the right side...

And why not have a good T on the right side????

Texasteel
04-14-2008, 09:14 PM
Most people think he's better on the right side...

And why not have a good T on the right side????

If we draft him, which I have a feeling we may, that is exactly what we will have.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-14-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm OK with Cherilus, but dont see him on the left side which begs the question .....is 23 too high to pick a RT?

As for playing against some good tackles in the big east and better than Otah. Otah handled Chris Long and George Selvie well in games this season, but struggled against lesser competition.

Watch the Matt Ryan video clips and see #77 with a poor kick slide, heavy feet and bad technique on the left side. Cherilus has measurables and is nasty and competes, but struggled big time against speed at the senior bowl. He may be able to improve and be a solid RT that can pass and run block......being a LT will be a major transition.

I think Otah is a better prospect who can play LT, but will not be there at 23. Cherilus should be there and if the other 5 linemen are gone, I see him as being the pick as he might not get out of the 1st round.

Rhee Rhee
04-15-2008, 02:22 AM
Watch the Matt Ryan video clips and see #77 with a poor kick slide, heavy feet and bad technique on the left side. Cherilus has measurables and is nasty and competes, but struggled big time against speed at the senior bowl. He may be able to improve and be a solid RT that can pass and run block......being a LT will be a major transition.

i think that's an understatement, i dont think it can be done at all...

call me a hater and that's basically what i am... i wouldn't like to see an unathletic RT play on our line... i mean one of his knocks is that he can't handle speed rushers... well newsflash everyone, in the NFL everyone is FAST! to have an unathletic RT with bad technique will be exactly what we had in colon and starks...

i will be the first to admit we need a LT/RT or both but cherilus is not the answer at either position...

Galax Steeler
04-15-2008, 03:13 AM
I am not sold on this guy either at 23 I think we can find someone with better valuer then him.

Elvis
04-15-2008, 05:50 AM
:coffee: Good luck to all the Nay' Sayers... I think that this guy is gonna be a very nice addition to someone's roster and I wouldnt mind at all being the Steelers'. He looked very impressive at the Senior Bowl against some pretty darn good compitition.

MDSteel15
04-15-2008, 09:30 AM
:coffee: Good luck to all the Nay' Sayers... I think that this guy is gonna be a very nice addition to someone's roster and I wouldnt mind at all being the Steelers'. He looked very impressive at the Senior Bowl against some pretty darn good compitition.

With his so-called "Mean Streak" I believe he could make the transition to the left side and contribute greatly to our O-line.... He has been the one guy I have expected to be a future Steeler since every one started their mock drafts and analizing players.

Michael Keller
04-15-2008, 09:59 AM
If this guy is truly "penalty prone" I see this as a MAJOR LIABILITY. I hope the Steelers do not force themselves to take an offensive lineman but take the best available football player be it a defensive lineman, POWER running back or corner back. My hope is that the best will be a offensive lineman.but Please no "penalty prone ' OL.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-15-2008, 10:14 AM
[QUOTE=Rhee Rhee;386343]i wouldn't like to see an unathletic RT play on our line... i mean one of his knocks is that he can't handle speed rushers... well newsflash everyone, in the NFL everyone is FAST! to have an unathletic RT with bad technique will be exactly what we had in colon and starks...

QUOTE]

This is the interesting thing. He has decent times in 3 cone drills and all that. He looks like an incredibly hard worker that hussles and he is a powerful, nasty competitor.

I was against him, but think with the size, long arms and coaching him up on better technique, kick slide, positioning for counter moves, etc. he can be a good pass blocker on the right side and a great addition to the run game.

I wouldnt have a problem with him being drafted to solve one of the tackle spots. That will leave extending either Smith or Starks on the other side to shore up the other side.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-15-2008, 10:22 AM
:coffee: Good luck to all the Nay' Sayers... I think that this guy is gonna be a very nice addition to someone's roster and I wouldnt mind at all being the Steelers'. He looked very impressive at the Senior Bowl against some pretty darn good compitition.

Please dont refer to the Senior Bowl and Cherilus. That makes me really hate on him. He brawled with guys on day 1 and created a buzz by being nasty, but the rest of the week he got beat like a rented mule and looked terrible.

Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College: Cherilus was expected to have a big week but failed to deliver. He possesses the size and strength to start in the NFL, but his inability to block in anything other than a small area was troublesome. Cherilus now needs a big combine to preserve being a first-round choice.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/01/24/risers.sliders/1.html

I think Cherilus had a good combine, but again his poor senior bowl showing is a bit of cause for concern.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-15-2008, 10:27 AM
With his so-called "Mean Streak" .

When I think of the best LT's in the game, I dont think "Mean Streak" is a prerequisite in any of them.

Walter Jones, Jon Ogden, Orlando Pace, Chris Samuels, Flozell Adams, Marcus McNeil, etc are not known for being nasty, but rather big strong guys that are intelligent craftsmen in their technique.

With Cherilus I see a big nasty mauler that makes up for his lack of technique with hard work and effort. Not a bad trait at all. He may start at LT in 3 or 4 seasons, but the likleyhood is he spends a season as a backup until starting at RT for 3 seasons.

steelymcmatt
04-16-2008, 06:46 PM
The one "problem" I've had with Cherilus up to this point is that I'm worried he might be a SLIGHT reach at 23....but here's a thought:

What if only one or two WR have gone by the time we're on the clock. Each of the next 6 teams should be looking at a WR. If I'm San Francisco and want someone to be that premier wide reciever in my new wide open office, I could package 1.29(640) and 4.103(86) to move ahead of some other teams to get the WR of my choice. Alternatively we could swap third rounders.

Then we can pick up Cherilus where he should rightly go (29) and either have an extra pick in the 4th, or at least an earlier pick in the 3rd.

What say you?

millwalldavey
04-16-2008, 07:19 PM
WIlle Colon's "mean streak" hasn't gotten him very far...