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jjpro11
04-15-2008, 06:53 PM
nothing too big.. i would be upset too.

STEELERS SAFETY TEES OFF ON TRAINERS
Posted by Mike Florio on April 15, 2008, 6:29 p.m.

Pittsburgh Steelers safety Ryan Clark has balls. Or maybe he wants to be cut, or traded. Because Clark is sounding off regarding the manner in which the team?s training staff handled the injury that kept him sidelined for much of last season. After several weeks with an uncertain status, he was placed on injured reserve with a spleen injury. Eventually, Clark?s spleen was removed.

Though we typically frown on players taking this kind of stuff public (see Kelly, Malcolm), Clark is speaking out not because the training staff screwed up his initial diagnosis, but because they made him to feel like a malingerer when the diagnosis proved to be wrong, and when no one knew quite what was wrong with him.

Clark made his comments on 105.9 The X in Pittsburgh with Tim Benz. Here?s a portion of the transcript, as provided by the station: ?There will always be a problem with me and the trainers here. . . . I got fed up with it. . . . I feel mistreated. I don?t feel like things were handled in the way they should?ve been. . . . I was made to feel that the tests say, ?You are okay so why are you milking this?? . . . I felt like I was talked to like I was uneducated and misgiuided . . . . I felt like I was talked to like a dumb jock or a pampered football player. . . .?

The Steelers didn?t make a trainer available to respond. Benz tells us that the Steelers said that they stand by their trainers, and that the team feels that the injury was handled properly.

TheWarDen86
04-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Sounds like he has a case.

Preacher
04-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Hmmm.

A little discontent. You know, with all the wierd injuries that happen around here... I wonder at times. Jeromes knees constantly having problems. wierd sports hernias, bad backs, other things...

I don't know, but I wonder... at least we aren't talking staph infections!

tony hipchest
04-15-2008, 07:17 PM
are the trainers internists or sickle cell specialists?

Atlanta Dan
04-15-2008, 07:30 PM
are the trainers internists or sickle cell specialists?

Given that he previously had problems after visiting high altitude Denver with the Redskins, I was waiting for this shoe to drop. If Clark does not recover his physical skills he cannot sue the Steelers for being injured on the job but he probably can sue the medical staff for malpractice (not saying he should or that he will win, but that he can sue)

Stlrs4Life
04-15-2008, 07:32 PM
This is from PFT. Wouldn't put much into that web site, copnsidering this morning they had Cleveland playing Philly on Thanksgiving.

tony hipchest
04-15-2008, 07:39 PM
Given that he previously had problems after visiting high altitude Denver with the Redskins, I was waiting for this shoe to drop. If Clark does not recover he cannot sue the Steelers for being injured on the job but he probably can sue the medical staff for malpractice (not saying he should or that he will win, but that he can sue)the impression i got from the few stories i read (from pitt media) was that the steelers medical staff was much more responsive than the redskins staff.

after all, it was a trip to high altitude that triggered this, not a year or 2 of trainer staff neglect.

from what i remember, he was fine in the weeks leading up to denver and he was diagnosed fairly quickly afterwards. this florio phrase makes it sound like he was sitting around forever-

After several weeks with an uncertain status, he was placed on injured reserve with a spleen injury. Eventually, Clark?s spleen was removed.



am i wrong, or was he diagnosed and had his spleen removed immediately (to kinda like save his life)?

but i know youre right dan, this very well could grow short legs in a courtroom, especially if he were released. (i dont think he would win).

Atlanta Dan
04-15-2008, 07:48 PM
the impression i got from the few stories i read (from pitt media) was that the steelers medical staff was much more responsive than the redskins staff.

after all, it was a trip to high altitude that triggered this, not a year or 2 of trainer staff neglect.

from what i remember, he was fine in the weeks leading up to denver and he was diagnosed fairly quickly afterwards. this florio phrase makes it sound like he was sitting around forever-



am i wrong, or was he diagnosed and had his spleen removed immediately (to kinda like save his life)?

but i know youre right dan, this very well could grow short legs in a courtroom, especially if he were released. (i dont think he would win).

Steelers lost to Denver October 21 - Clark was listed as "doubtful" until the Steelers announced Clark's spleen was removed November 15

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3112470

jjpro11
04-15-2008, 07:50 PM
This is from PFT. Wouldn't put much into that web site, copnsidering this morning they had Cleveland playing Philly on Thanksgiving.

it came from a radio show clark took part in. pft was the only site that reported the radio interview.

tony hipchest
04-15-2008, 08:10 PM
Steelers lost to Denver October 21 - Clark was listed as "doubtful" until the Steelers announced Clark's spleen was removed November 15

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3112470
thanks

perhaps it was the quick diagnoses rather than the actual spleen removal i was thinking of-

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07320/834402-66.stm

Clark, 28, was admitted to a Denver hospital after the game, and doctors told him the problem with his spleen develop from complications of exerting himself in the high altitude as it related to the sickle cell trait.

"It's a blood condition I have that I have to stay on top of, as far as going to high altitude and things like that," Clark said three days after the game in Denver. "Dealing with the weather, overexertion, dehydration -- I just need to be smarter."

Clark said he had similar problems when he played for the Washington Redskins in Denver two years ago, but that it was diagnosed differently.

19ward86
04-15-2008, 08:46 PM
Got my support Ryan.

Rhee Rhee
04-15-2008, 09:01 PM
why can't he just find his own doctor to diagnose his own injuries if he's so salty...

Atlanta Dan
04-15-2008, 09:06 PM
why can't he just find his own doctor to diagnose his own injuries if he's so salty...

Ask Barry Foster how that turned out

lilyoder6
04-15-2008, 09:10 PM
i wouldn't blame the trainers 4 the mistreatment.. like said b4, they specialize in injuries not diseases liek sickle cell.. how would they now.. and evrytime it seems liek someone gets injured badly they always go to get a 2nd opion...

jjpro11
04-15-2008, 10:05 PM
i wouldn't blame the trainers 4 the mistreatment.. like said b4, they specialize in injuries not diseases liek sickle cell.. how would they now.. and evrytime it seems liek someone gets injured badly they always go to get a 2nd opion...

dont the steelers have actual doctors though? trainers only do so much.

Godfather
04-15-2008, 10:13 PM
but i know youre right dan, this very well could grow short legs in a courtroom, especially if he were released. (i dont think he would win).

I dunno...doesn't the CBA allow the Steelers to release him and pay an injury settlement?

Midnightwriter7
04-15-2008, 11:58 PM
I cant stand athletes who bitch to the media like that ... he needs to shut his mouth and get ready to play some football. Take it up with upper management or his attorney if he is so unhappy ..

SteelersMongol
04-16-2008, 01:41 AM
I cant stand athletes who bitch to the media like that ... he needs to shut his mouth and get ready to play some football. Take it up with upper management or his attorney if he is so unhappy ..

I don't know the whole story about how it happened. But I'm sure he didn't just come up there & only talked about his unhappiness with the staff. Maybe the media played him, or it just came up accidently. I don't know. :noidea: But u'r fight about how he should've brought this up with the management, instead of just going 2 the media.

Galax Steeler
04-16-2008, 03:28 AM
I wonder how this will affect him in the upcoming season having bad feelings about the trainers and staff.

tunes4life
04-16-2008, 06:52 AM
It's Bettis's fault! Because of his book (he admitted milking the system) the owners have instructed the staff to be suspicious of any injury that doesn't involve swelling of some sort. :wink02:

lilyoder6
04-16-2008, 08:16 AM
i don't know if any team has a doctor tho..u might have like a team physician.. but he isn't like a doctor..

BlastFurnace
04-16-2008, 09:24 AM
Greg Lloyd had a problem with a staff infection that was mistreated by the Steelers trainers. Jerome Bettis received a shot that "missed the mark" before the Ravens playoff game in 2001 as well.

Personally, I would not trust any NFL team doctor if their job or interest was to get me on the field as soon as possible. The doctors work for the team, not the player. In any diagnosis that I get, I always get a second opinion. My neighbor was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and was actually scheduled for a mastectomy before deciding to go for a 2nd opinion. She found out that all she actually had was a cyst that needed to be removed.

I don't blame Ryan for being angry and I don't blame him for guidance elsewhere when the Steelers trainers weren't helping him.

rdsovchen
04-16-2008, 11:02 AM
Ohhhh, why worry about this, there is always Anthony Smith.:rofl:

rbryan
04-16-2008, 11:39 AM
Sounds like a guy who knows he's finished and looking for one last payday via litigation.

Elvis
04-16-2008, 01:34 PM
Ohhhh, why worry about this, there is always Anthony Smith.:rofl:
I think that this might just push the Steelers over the edge in the draft if S Kenny Phillips from Miami, Fla is left at 23rd. He would be a nice fit with Troy at SS and it gives the Steelers some depth as well.
:tt02:

rdsovchen
04-16-2008, 07:45 PM
I would really like to see that happen!:thumbsup:

tony hipchest
04-16-2008, 07:48 PM
I think that this might just push the Steelers over the edge in the draft if S Kenny Phillips from Miami, Fla is left at 23rd. He would be a nice fit with Troy at SS and it gives the Steelers some depth as well.
:tt02:

and just piss away our 3rd round pick from 2 years ago?

that doesnt seem to smart.

just remember, polamalu got burnt and embarassed by brady in his 2nd year, just the same way smith was.

SteelersMongol
04-16-2008, 09:54 PM
... just remember, polamalu got burnt and embarassed by brady in his 2nd year, just the same way smith was.

F*cking Brady the Goatboy, cheating f*gg*t. :mad: In this case, though, then Anthony wil rise and kick the Cheatriots behind. It's gonna b so much better than the way he handled the Bungholes, right? :tt02:

lilyoder6
04-17-2008, 09:44 AM
smith is a good safety all ppl in the early ages makes mistakes... he'll get the fs job and knock some heads..

rbryan
04-17-2008, 10:04 AM
Phillips is way over rated IMO. He may have that UM pedigree (oxy moron??) but he couldn't carry Ed Reeds jock. A Smith will be just fine. Anyone who advocates drafting any position besides OL,DL #1 hasn't been paying attention in class.

stlrtruck
04-17-2008, 11:26 AM
Anyone who advocates drafting any position besides OL,DL #1 hasn't been paying attention in class. :thumbsup:

I would assess that they haven't been in class (LOL) :drink: