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BettisFan
04-22-2008, 11:00 AM
Well guys the Phins are looking like they will sign him even before the draft!
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphins/content/sports/epaper/2008/04/21/0421dolphins.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46

"The Dolphins are close enough in pre-draft negotiations with Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long that a finalized contract could be announced any day, an NFL source told The Palm Beach Post today.

The source said "there's a very good chance" Long already will be under contract as the No. 1 pick before the NFL Draft begins at 3 p.m. Saturday at Radio City Music Hall in New York."

Looks like Jason will be staying with them then.

Jeremy
04-22-2008, 12:33 PM
I know the scouts love the kid, but I just don't know that he's a #1 overall type of talent.

steelymcmatt
04-22-2008, 12:36 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d807e7335&template=with-video&confirm=true

Dolphins reach contract agreement to make Long top overall pick
NFL.com Wire Reports

The Miami Dolphins have their man.

The Dolphins have reached an agreement with former Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long on a five-year, $57.5 million contract that includes $30 million in guaranteed money, reports NFL Network's Adam Schefter.

The Dolphins hold the No. 1 overall pick in Saturday's NFL Draft.

The Dolphins have been in negotiations with the representatives for Long, discussing contract parameters while attempting to keep their intentions with the top pick hidden. The Dolphins were also interested in trading the No. 1 pick, but no suitors surfaced.

The draft will be the first in Miami for the regime led by executive VP of football operations Bill Parcells, general manager Jeff Ireland and head coach Tony Sparano after the Dolphins went 1-15 last year. Miami has nine picks, including four of the first 64.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-22-2008, 12:39 PM
He is now signed

fansince'76
04-22-2008, 12:40 PM
Ridiculous money for an unproven player. Nobody has any idea whether this kid is going to be another Anthony Mu?oz or another Tony Mandarich. When bad teams have to shell out these kinds of guaranteed dollars for top 5 picks and they don't pan out, it kind of defeats the purpose of the high draft pick, does it not? Kinda hard to rebuild when you're in salary cap hell, no? They need to cap rookie salaries and guarantees.

revefsreleets
04-22-2008, 12:40 PM
Rams....Chris Long? Vern Gholston? Glenn Dorsey?

steelymcmatt
04-22-2008, 12:53 PM
Rams....Chris Long? Vern Gholston? Glenn Dorsey?

Has to be Glenn Dorsey.....curious to see if they start negotiating with anyone in the coming days

lilyoder6
04-22-2008, 01:36 PM
damn.. good job on maimi part to get it done... now i have to go thru my cokc draft and chagne it up a lil

Dino 6 Rings
04-22-2008, 01:40 PM
can't wait til they put a cap on these ridiculous rookie salaries.

steelymcmatt
04-22-2008, 02:31 PM
can't wait til they put a cap on these ridiculous rookie salaries.

I have to agree with you there...these guys haven't proven ANYTHING except that they can play in college. The NFL needs to come up with a way to filter some of that rookie cap money back to the veterans who have PROVEN they can play in the NFL.

I kind of like the rookie cap system that the NBA uses, however I think it needs to be tweaked to work in the NFL. There is a big difference between what some positions should be payed vs others. Each position should have a premium on it, and then the 2nd player taken at that position gets a little less and so on. The question then becomes one of contract length. I think you make it a 3 year contract with a 5 year option at the clubs discretion BUT then you build in some incentives that if the player meets those incentives the club loses their year 4,5 option. I also think they should build in some financial incentives for production.

Just my thoughts!

The Duke
04-22-2008, 03:01 PM
is he more of a run blocker or pass blocker? if he's a run blocker look for ronnie brown to have a huge year. the fins need to settle at qb, not a super star, just not a cleo lemon type player, and they could be something good

great signing imo

Ridiculous money for an unproven player. Nobody has any idea whether this kid is going to be another Anthony Mu?oz or another Tony Mandarich.

yeah, maybe, but right now they can only hope for the best. bill parcells is a smart man, hopefully he made the right decision

millwalldavey
04-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Good call as a #1. 2 penalties and 2 sacks allowed in his career. He is ready now and will be a legend.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-22-2008, 05:50 PM
Ridiculous money for an unproven player. Nobody has any idea whether this kid is going to be another Anthony Mu?oz or another Tony Mandarich. When bad teams have to shell out these kinds of guaranteed dollars for top 5 picks and they don't pan out, it kind of defeats the purpose of the high draft pick, does it not? Kinda hard to rebuild when you're in salary cap hell, no? They need to cap rookie salaries and guarantees.

Rookies should be given a base sallary and then paid of performance for the first year.......after that they can renogotiate their contract.
For thoes who dont play their first year.....1- two million shoulld cover all expenses

Galax Steeler
04-23-2008, 04:19 AM
Could the dolphins be doing what cleveland done last year and maybe go after matt rhyan.

steelymcmatt
04-23-2008, 06:46 AM
Rookies should be given a base sallary and then paid of performance for the first year.......after that they can renogotiate their contract.
For thoes who dont play their first year.....1- two million shoulld cover all expenses

Unfortunately I think there are two many instances of players who take a year or two to adapt to a system ie Mario Williams OR are drafted as a backup ie Aaron Rodgers to make a system like that work. IMO there has to be a longer contract period which also means larger guarantees.

revefsreleets
04-23-2008, 07:46 AM
The worst part of the NFL NOT adopting the NBA system is that it takes money out of proven veterans pockets, and puts it straight into unproven players AND THEIR AGENTS wallets.

It's in almost everyones best interests to change...I'm actually surprised it hasn't already happened.

Jeremy
04-23-2008, 08:14 AM
He is ready now and will be a legend.


:toofunny:

Yeah because there's never been a can't miss prospect who ended up missing right?

lilyoder6
04-23-2008, 09:09 AM
jake long is a great run blocker... he needs up in the pass blocking area.. but as of right now the dolphins has no weapons at Wr or te except for ted ginn jr.. :o

steelymcmatt
04-23-2008, 10:16 AM
The worst part of the NFL NOT adopting the NBA system is that it takes money out of proven veterans pockets, and puts it straight into unproven players AND THEIR AGENTS wallets.

It's in almost everyones best interests to change...I'm actually surprised it hasn't already happened.

As I understand it, the argument AGAINST a rookie wage system is that the contracts going to rookies help drive the increase in veteran's contracts. I'm not sure I buy it, but that's the argument Upshaw et al are saying.

Elvis
04-23-2008, 03:57 PM
The Dolphins are moving in the right direction...
:noidea:

RoethlisBURGHer
04-23-2008, 04:49 PM
I think this was a good choice. The safest choices were Jake Long, Glen Dorsey, or Chris Long.

Jake Long- Excellent run blocker who is also a good (not great, but can get there) pass blocker.

Glen Dorsey- Excellent interior lineman, great motor, brings it every play.

Chris Long- Would be an instant upgrade to any defensive line. He can rush the passer and stuff the run.

Matt Ryan would have been a bad choice, seeing how there is nobody up front to protect him.

McFadden would have had the same problem as Ryan. Plus the Dolphins have a RB in Ronnie Brown, as long as his knee has heeled.

Galax Steeler
04-24-2008, 04:22 AM
I think this was a good choice. The safest choices were Jake Long, Glen Dorsey, or Chris Long.

Jake Long- Excellent run blocker who is also a good (not great, but can get there) pass blocker.

Glen Dorsey- Excellent interior lineman, great motor, brings it every play.

Chris Long- Would be an instant upgrade to any defensive line. He can rush the passer and stuff the run.

Matt Ryan would have been a bad choice, seeing how there is nobody up front to protect him.

McFadden would have had the same problem as Ryan. Plus the Dolphins have a RB in Ronnie Brown, as long as his knee has heeled.

Good points Ronnie is a good back when healthy they didn't need McFadden.

steelymcmatt
04-24-2008, 01:53 PM
The Dolphins are moving in the right direction...
:noidea:

Going into the 07 season the Dolphins were on many people's short list as contenders for a wild card spot. Most teams wouldn't survive losing their starting QB and RB early in their season. I'm not convinced they are as bad as their 1-15 record would indicate.