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Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:09 PM
I totally forgot about Connor. Is he still available?

Nope.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:10 PM
I totally forgot about Connor. Is he still available?

No. He went to Carolina in the 3rd.

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 12:10 PM
pretty disappointed to see ravens get oneil cousins. he should turn into a solid player for them.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 12:11 PM
who did we get in the third?

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:11 PM
Whadda you think about Sullivan at center with the next pick?

McGlynn would be nice

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:12 PM
who did we get in the third?

Bruce Davis from UCLA.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:12 PM
Bruce Davis. Need I say more?

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:12 PM
I totally forgot about Connor. Is he still available?

No, went early 3rd to Carolina

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:13 PM
Whadda you think about Sullivan at center with the next pick?

I'd rather have Schuelling or Collins

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:13 PM
Hopefully Dre Moore is there still at 123.

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 12:14 PM
Bruce Davis. Need I say more?

woulda been better off drafting bruce willis

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:15 PM
The next pick will be O-line. It's gotta be.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:15 PM
woulda been better off drafting bruce willis


:sofunny::sofunny:

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:15 PM
I'd rather have Schuelling or Collins

The Steelers already have two centers. They need some help on the edge.

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:16 PM
The Steelers already have two centers. They need some help on the edge.

Schuelling is a guard, Collins is a tackle.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:16 PM
Hopefully Dre Moore is there still at 123.

If he is there how can you not take him. Unless of course there is someone related to Kuhn still left on the planet.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:17 PM
And McGlynn goes to Phily.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:17 PM
Bye Bye McGlynn

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:18 PM
How about the Bungholes taking two wide receivers. Looks like they'll still suck next year for sure.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:18 PM
Schuelling is a guard, Collins is a tackle.

Yeah I know.....I was trying to multiquote millwall's question.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:19 PM
Well it's not over yet, but we did get two impact players on the first day. So that is good.

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:20 PM
Friggin Crows.

ExtonSteelFan
04-27-2008, 12:21 PM
The problem I have with Davis is he's dumb. The knock on him for the last two years has been the fact that he can't do anything more complicated than run from here to there. Maybe the staff knows something that the rest of us don't.

But even if he turns in to a decent linebacker in the NFL, there were still bigger needs than a project OLB at that spot.

nfl.com has this on Davis:

Pick Analysis:Davis did very well in his first extended time as a linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He's a classic Steeler type of player. Davis is very bright and has a knack for getting to the quarterback with his speed.

Not sure what to believe here...:noidea:

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:21 PM
How about the Bungholes taking two wide receivers. Looks like they'll still suck next year for sure.


It's always a good day for the Bungles to suck!!

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:21 PM
Yeah I know.....I was trying to multiquote millwall's question.

Yeah... we do... I was thinking insurance maybe at C, but I guess I didnt consider giving HAtwig a shot beforehand.

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:22 PM
COME ON DRE MOORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:22 PM
It's always a good day for the Bungles to suck!!

You optimist you! Are you saying every day is a good day? :sofunny:

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 12:23 PM
This draft just went from an A- to a C-.

HORRIBLE pick.

Actually Davis could prove to be a sensational pick. He posseses a quick first step and great quickness and speed. Yes he played DE in College but he does know how to get after the qb....judging by his 29 sacks registered.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:23 PM
nfl.com has this on Davis:

Pick Analysis:Davis did very well in his first extended time as a linebacker at the Senior Bowl. He's a classic Steeler type of player. Davis is very bright and has a knack for getting to the quarterback with his speed.

Not sure what to believe here...:noidea:

OK......that report is the opposite of most of what I've been reading.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:24 PM
You optimist you! Are you saying every day is a good day? :sofunny:

I guess I am!:sofunny:

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:24 PM
Actually Davis could prove to be a sensational pick. He posseses a quick first step and great quickness and speed. Yes he played DE in College but he does know how to get after the qb....judging by his 29 sacks registered.

Unless he packs on 20lbs on muscle, he'll get tossed around like a rag doll in the NFL.

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:24 PM
Browns are doin work.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:24 PM
I hope we take Brandon Keith from Northern Iowa.

Get this: He is 6'5" 349 lb offensive tackle who ran a 4.98!
Are you kidding me!! A sub 5 40 at 350 lbs!!!! That is what you would get if you crossed Godzilla with Marion Jones.

He did 31 reps which is respectable.

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:26 PM
Browns are doin work.

Picking a player who has no chance to start as long as Winslow is on the roster is good work?

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:26 PM
Here's to the Bungles picking a kicker!

Steel_Bus_24
04-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Im not liking having to defend Rucker and Winslow...hopefully our pass rush this year kicks some ass

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Picking a player who has no chance to start as long as Winslow is on the roster is good work?

posted it before i seen that they drafted the TE.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:27 PM
I hope we take Brandon Keith from Northern Iowa.

Get this: He is 6'5" 349 lb offensive tackle who ran a 4.98!
Are you kidding me!! A sub 5 40 at 350 lbs!!!! That is what you would get if you crossed Godzilla with Marion Jones.

He did 31 reps which is respectable.

Thats better than respectable.:thumbsup:

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Picking a player who has no chance to start as long as Winslow is on the roster is good work?

You always need depth. Besides, soldier boy hasn't exactly been a picture of health in his NFL career.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 12:27 PM
I'm giving up on drafting a lineman in the 4th.....I'm tired of being disappointed.

I say they draft a FS or CB just to pi$$ me off!!

:)

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:28 PM
haha.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:28 PM
Picking a player who has no chance to start as long as Winslow is on the roster is good work?

And giving up a 3rd rounder next year to boot. Lmao!

Petesburgh66
04-27-2008, 12:28 PM
OK......that report is the opposite of most of what I've been reading.

Same report I read

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/bruce-davis?id=1695

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:29 PM
They always pi$$ me off once a draft! Hopefully Rd. 3 was it.

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:29 PM
You always need depth. Besides, soldier boy hasn't exactly been a picture of health in his NFL career.

Don't they still have that good backup TE on their roster? His name escapes me right now.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm giving up on drafting a lineman in the 4th.....I'm tired of being disappointed.

I say they draft a FS or CB just to pi$$ me off!!

:)


LOL! How about a long snapper?

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:29 PM
And giving up a 3rd rounder next year to boot. Lmao!

The Browns think they're playing Madden.:sofunny:

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:30 PM
browns gave up next years 3rd round pick for this years 4th???

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:30 PM
LOL! How about a long snapper?

I say kicker.:sofunny:

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:30 PM
Stupid Bungholes!

frigbee
04-27-2008, 12:31 PM
What were they thinking drafting Rashard Mendenhall over Chris Johnson.

What we need is a real productive power back to counter parker. Davenport has been good but not effectively used by tomlin. When are they going to learn we need aggressive people like chris johnson as our back.

Bring back the BUS.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:31 PM
Same report I read

http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/bruce-davis?id=1695

There's nothing there that makes me excited about this pick.

He struggles to change direction.

He plays best when unblocked.

He struggles with technique.

Yeah....that's a dude I want on my roster.

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:31 PM
There goes Collins

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:33 PM
What were they thinking drafting Rashard Mendenhall over Chris Johnson.

What we need is a real productive power back to counter parker. Davenport has been good but not effectively used by tomlin. When are they going to learn we need aggressive people like chris johnson as our back.

Bring back the BUS.

Chris Johnsons fast, but Mendenhall is way more aggressive. Think Marion Barber.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:33 PM
I say kicker.:sofunny:

How about punter? We move Sep to MLB for depth and we can put him on kick coverage.:flap:

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:34 PM
Brandon Keith, Brandon Keith, Brandon Keith

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 12:34 PM
The guy dominated against teams like Oregon State and Stanford, but was a virtual non factor against teams like USC and Arizona State. Unless he can put on about 20 pounds of muscle, he'll get throw around like a rag doll in the NFL.

I kinda have to disagree with you here. Davis gave the trojans fits the year that UCLA beat the trojans. Personally I am a USC homer ( I live in Sunny CA) but he was one of the reasons that UCLA upset the Trojans in 06.

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:35 PM
Chris Johnson over Mendenhall, are F-ing me?

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:36 PM
How about punter? We move Sep to MLB for depth and we can put him on kick coverage.:flap:

Dude I swear if you don't apply to the Steelers FO as soon as possible I will scream. Where have you been all these years. We have been so blind! Genius pure genius.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:37 PM
Brandon Keith:
Overview

Playing in the shadows of All-American offensive tackle Chad Rinehart, Keith actually developed into a better athlete than his more heralded teammate. The massive drive blocker with an incredibly long wing span and hands the size of baseball mitts has excellent quickness for a player his size.

Needing to dispel concerns about his character and work ethic, it was commonplace to see Keith be the first player at the team facilities in the mornings, working on a cardio program that kept his weight in check and helped improve his overall flexibility.

Blessed with natural strength, he produced one of the better performances in the weight room at the NFL Combine, putting up 225 pounds 31 times. In a recent workout for NFL teams on campus, he clocked 4.98 seconds in the 40-yard dash and produced a 32-inch vertical jump with a 9'5" broad jump. That is impressive for any athlete, much less one of his size.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
I kinda have to disagree with you here. Davis gave the trojans fits the year that UCLA beat the trojans. Personally I am a USC homer ( I live in Sunny CA) but he was one of the reasons that UCLA upset the Trojans in 06.

One game my man. One game shouldn't get you in to the third round of the NFL draft.

I hope the kid does well, I really do. I'm just not betting on it.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Brandon Keith

Analysis

Positives: Has an excellent wing span with very large hands, using both with efficiency to make reach blocks and lock on to his opponent with force...Massive, thick-framed athlete who lacks muscular development, but has good leg drive, and for a player of his size, he flashes good suddenness in his movements off the snap to engage, lock on and ride out the edge rushers...Delivers a punishing hand jolt and shows the foot agility to stay with his blocks moving upfield...Has good balance and body control, showing good knee bend, as he can sink his hips and extend his arms properly while shuffling his feet to retreat in pass protection...Does a good job of getting into position and sustaining blocks, as he has the natural strength to move defenders off the ball...Easily generates movement off the snap and works especially well with his guards on traps...Light on his feet, showing adequate lateral slide on the pull...Has the size to root out the defender and clear huge rushing lanes...Takes proper angles and demonstrates good body control to square up on linebackers when stalking in the second level...Shows good hand usage to keep defenders off his body and away from the pocket with his long reach...Plays with good aggression and has a nasty attitude in attempts to finish blocks...Generates a punishing hand punch and is surprisingly nimble shuffling his feet to mirror edge rushers...Has no problems moving side-to-side in the short areas and sets up to block with good urgency coming out of his stance...With his ability to move well laterally, he could shift inside to guard at the next level...Even when he bends at the waist, he has the natural balance to recover...Fires off the ball quickly on drive blocks and is quick to get his hands up and punch in pass protection...Does not leave his feet behind or fall off blocks when on the move...No longer grabs at the outside shoulders of the defenders, thanks to improved hand placement.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
Brandon Keith:
Overview

Playing in the shadows of All-American offensive tackle Chad Rinehart, Keith actually developed into a better athlete than his more heralded teammate. The massive drive blocker with an incredibly long wing span and hands the size of baseball mitts has excellent quickness for a player his size.

Needing to dispel concerns about his character and work ethic, it was commonplace to see Keith be the first player at the team facilities in the mornings, working on a cardio program that kept his weight in check and helped improve his overall flexibility.

Blessed with natural strength, he produced one of the better performances in the weight room at the NFL Combine, putting up 225 pounds 31 times. In a recent workout for NFL teams on campus, he clocked 4.98 seconds in the 40-yard dash and produced a 32-inch vertical jump with a 9'5" broad jump. That is impressive for any athlete, much less one of his size.

Wow, why is this guy still on the board?

stillers4me
04-27-2008, 12:38 PM
OK......that report is the opposite of most of what I've been reading.

I'd think Davis is on the brighter side of the coin. This from steelers.com

PERSONAL

History major…earned Director's Honor Roll in Spring 2005…father, Bruce, Sr., was a member of two Super Bowl championship teams, playing offensive tackle with the Oakland Raiders (1979-87) and Houston Oilers (1987-89) after earning varsity letters from 1975-78 with the UCLA Bruins...uncle, Ronnie Davis, played for the Bruins from 1977-79…mother’s name is Lorna Hawkins…born Bruce Edward Davis II on 9/02/85 in Los Angeles, California…Resides in Houston, Texas.

frigbee
04-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:40 PM
I'd think Davis is on the brighter side of the coin. This from steelrs.com

I don't see much on their to change my opinion.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:40 PM
Chris Johnson over Mendenhall, are F-ing me?

No doubt we made the right choice. Though I can see Johnson being a huge threat in the return game for Tenn.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:41 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

Remind me who Johnson had his big games against. Oh that's right.....Rice and Tulane.

Thanks for playing.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:41 PM
Dre Moore is now off the board.

ExtonSteelFan
04-27-2008, 12:41 PM
I don't see much on their to change my opinion.

Where are you reading that he's not intelligent? Everything we're seeing here is the exact opposite.

stillers4me
04-27-2008, 12:42 PM
Honor roll......no biggee. Dude must be a dunce.

Dino 6 Rings
04-27-2008, 12:42 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

Mute Point...Mendenhall now wear's the Black and Gold, therefore, he is my guy.

I only care about who we get, not who we "missed" or "overlooked"

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:43 PM
Honor roll......no biggee. Dude must be a dunce.


Wouldn't you agree that book smarts and football smarts are two different things?

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:44 PM
Where are you reading that he's not very intelligent? Everything we're seeing here is the exact opposite.

How so? What you're reading is that he's fast. Great, I can go find 50 guys who are fast from here to there. But you're also reading that he struggles with technique. He can't get off of a block. He takes bad angles.

It sounds to me like some folks want to polish this turd of a pick.

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 12:44 PM
One game my man. One game shouldn't get you in to the third round of the NFL draft.

I hope the kid does well, I really do. I'm just not betting on it.

The player is a natural pass rusher...29 sacks in his career. Harvey Drafted at No. 8 by JAX had only 24.5 sacks total. Gholston tallied only 1 more career sack than Davis. Long had 8 fewer career sacks. I am not saying that he is the same caliber of player as Long Gholston or even Harvey, but his a good football player puer and simple and an accomplished pass rusher ( something we need seeing that our leading sacker only had 8.5 sacks). He is by no means as bad as you are making him out to be.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:44 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

I have seen them. Johnson looks impressive, but Mendenhall is a pounder back. Johnson is a speed guy.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 12:44 PM
a bunch of other teams got O lineman in the 4th we need to get one!

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:45 PM
Wouldn't you agree that book smarts and football smarts are two different things?

Exactly. Read the scouting reports. Everything in there suggests that he's going to struggle making the transition from DE to OLB.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:45 PM
Wow, why is this guy still on the board?


He has negatives like anyone but a lot of them have to do with Small School, overshadowed by Rinehart, immature, weight issues. What 21 year old lineman isn't immature and fat? I believe he had a hamstring pull and didn't work out for scouts too.

frigbee
04-27-2008, 12:46 PM
Mute Point...Mendenhall now wear's the Black and Gold, therefore, he is my guy.

I only care about who we get, not who we "missed" or "overlooked"


And thats why we didnt go to the superbowl last year.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:46 PM
The player is a natural pass rusher...29 sacks in his career. Harvey Drafted at No. 8 by JAX had only 24.5 sacks total. Gholston tallied only 1 more career sack than Davis. Long had 8 fewer career sacks. I am not saying that he is the same caliber of player as Long Gholston or even Harvey, but his a good football player puer and simple and an accomplished pass rusher ( something we need seeing that our leading sacker only had 8.5 sacks). He is by no means as bad as you are making him out to be.

He did all that as a DE. He won't play DE in the NFL. Gholston, Long, and Harvey will.

He's not the pass rusher some of you want him to be.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:47 PM
Exactly. Read the scouting reports. Everything in there suggests that he's going to struggle making the transition from DE to OLB.

Don't they always say that?


Hey Red Bryant is still availale.

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 12:47 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

So since Garrard went there, Johnson is a sure bet?

That's about as laughable as the "Tom Brady went in the 6th round, so why can't this guy be a Hall of Famer" parallels people ALWAYS draw this time of year.

So, you're telling me just about every team, because just about every team had Mendenhall over Johnson on their boards, overlooked a CLEARLY better player. So none of these scouts can do their job?

And you can say this because... you've seen their.... highlight tapes?

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:47 PM
Don't they always say that?

No, they don't.

ajs8207
04-27-2008, 12:48 PM
He has negatives like anyone but a lot of them have to do with Small School, overshadowed by Rinehart, immature, weight issues. What 21 year old lineman isn't immature and fat? I believe he had a hamstring pull and didn't work out for scouts too.

He quit the football team

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:48 PM
He has negatives like anyone but a lot of them have to do with Small School, overshadowed by Rinehart, immature, weight issues. What 21 year old lineman isn't immature and fat? I believe he had a hamstring pull and didn't work out for scouts too.

Well our pick is coming soon. Why not take him, hell we already drafted a project with less accolades. This guy sounds solid.

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 12:48 PM
And thats why we didnt go to the superbowl last year.

We didn't go to the Super Bowl because Dino wasn't thinking about Patrick Willis?

What the hell, Dino!?!

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:49 PM
He quit the football team

Oh, well that isn't good.

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 12:49 PM
Carl Nicks here?

frigbee
04-27-2008, 12:50 PM
What do we pay the draft staff for here in pittsburgh again?

Chris Johnson ECU
2007 Stats
Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR


Remind me what Rashard Mendenhall's stats are??????

19ward86
04-27-2008, 12:50 PM
We need a lineman, either side of the ball, please Colbert give us a lineman.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-27-2008, 12:50 PM
And thats why we didnt go to the superbowl last year.

When you see Mendenhall and Parker splitting carries you will be happy...

Davis will be expected to fill in for Woodley and Harrison from day 1. So he doesnt have much time to convert........I think he will do fine.
The steelers saw something in him

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 12:50 PM
thats whats up! thats what i am saying to everyone to just chill our O-line will be good trust tomlin with the rest of the draft.

Still sticking to that point of view?

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 12:51 PM
What do we pay the draft staff for here in pittsburgh again?

Chris Johnson ECU
2007 Stats
Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR


Remind me what Rashard Mendenhall's stats are??????

Umm..

He played at ECU...

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:51 PM
Still sticking to that point of view?

I'm a little nervous. Staying confident but just a little nervous.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:52 PM
No, they don't.


I think they do it to cover their butts in the scouting reports. That way if they get it right they are clairvoyant and if they work out, then they worked really hard.

I am sure they had a great scouting report on James Harrison and Willie Parker too.

Not defending him though, he could be garbage. I think the unmeasureables are hard to quantify. Plus his sack number wasn't a fluke.

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:52 PM
When you see Mendenhall and Parker splitting carries you will be happy...

Davis will be expected to fill in for Woodley and Harrison from day 1. So he doesnt have much time to convert........I think he will do fine.
The steelers saw something in him

I really hope not! Davis will take at least a year to learn how to play OLB.

I still think he was a ST pick.

Dino 6 Rings
04-27-2008, 12:52 PM
And thats why we didnt go to the superbowl last year.


I'm pretty sure that there were many reasons we didn't make it to the SB last season, least of them being who I choice to root for and how I decide to not look at the draft with negative nancy glasses.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Shit there goes Moore..Another pick stolen by a trade..UGH!

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 12:54 PM
I think that we'll take either Red Bryant, Roy Schuening or Carl Nicks.

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 12:54 PM
He did all that as a DE. He won't play DE in the NFL. Gholston, Long, and Harvey will.

He's not the pass rusher some of you want him to be.

Yes he did it at DE but the fact remains that he still was able to put constant pressure on the QB. He knows how to pass rush. And just because he played DE in College does not mean he cannot play OLB. IT actually states in a few scouting reports that he could excel as an 3-4 OLB. Honestly he reminds me of SHawn Phillips of SAn Diego who also played DE in college.

Now I am not saying he is gonna come in and be the next Porter or Merriman but he is a solid player none the less.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 12:54 PM
We need a lineman!!! come on

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:55 PM
Carl Nicks, Brandon Keith, or Bryant

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-27-2008, 12:55 PM
Watch Chris Johnson Highlights on youtube then watch Rashard Mendenhall highlights.

Chris johnson is 10x more aggressive then Rashard Mendenhall watch Rashard's "highlights" which involve mostly others blocking then watch Chris Johnson take on people break 6 tackles in one attempt the guy is a beast but since he went to ECU which is a small school taken David Garrard went there. You may remember him as the guy who threw no interception to anyone but steelers all season.

Chris Johnson is this years Chris Henry (the RB)....nothing more...might be a better WR than a RB.

fansince'76
04-27-2008, 12:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that there were many reasons we didn't make it to the SB last season, least of them being who I choice to root for and how I decide to not look at the draft with negative nancy glasses.

Nope, it was all Willie's fault! :toofunny: :toofunny: :toofunny:

tsmartnick
04-27-2008, 12:55 PM
i wanted bryant really bad for some reason

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 12:55 PM
And there goes Bryant...well now what?

The Duke
04-27-2008, 12:56 PM
oh man, I overslept!! forgot we still had day 2 of the draft....

so no lineman yet , interesting.....

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 12:57 PM
Frank Okam is still availble.

frigbee
04-27-2008, 12:58 PM
2007 Stats
Chris Johnson ECU
Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR


David Garrard is from ECU turned out being a beast.

Look at the teams ECU plays regularly

Sat, Sep 1st, 2007 at Virginia_Tech 12:00 PM Lane Stadium/Worsham Field L (17 - 7)
Sat, Sep 8th, 2007 North_Carolina 06:00 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium W (34 - 31)
Sat, Sep 15th, 2007 Southern_Miss 06:00 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium L (28 - 21)
Sat, Sep 22nd, 2007 at West_Virginia 12:00 PM Milan Puskar Stadium L (48 - 7)
Sat, Sep 29th, 2007 at Houston 07:00 PM John O Quinn Field at Robertso W (37 - 35)
Sat, Oct 6th, 2007 U-C-F 07:30 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium W (52 - 38)
Sat, Oct 13th, 2007 at Texas-El_Paso 09:05 PM Sun Bowl W (45 - 42)
Sat, Oct 20th, 2007 NC_State 04:30 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium L (34 - 20)
Sat, Oct 27th, 2007 U-A-B 03:30 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium W (41 - 6)
Sat, Nov 3rd, 2007 at Memphis 02:00 PM Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium W (56 - 40)
Sat, Nov 10th, 2007 at Marshall 04:30 PM Joan C. Edwards Stadium L (26 - 7)
Sat, Nov 24th, 2007 Tulane 01:00 PM Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium W (35 - 12)
Sun, Dec 23rd, 2007 at Boise_State 08:00 PM Sheraton Hawaii Bowl - Aloha S W (41 - 38)

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 12:58 PM
Yes he did it at DE but the fact remains that he still was able to put constant pressure on the QB. He knows how to pass rush. And just because he played DE in College does not mean he cannot play OLB. IT actually states in a few scouting reports that he could excel as an 3-4 OLB. Honestly he reminds me of SHawn Phillips of SAn Diego who also played DE in college.

Now I am not saying he is gonna come in and be the next Porter or Merriman but he is a solid player none the less.

As a strong side guy who will run at the QB unblocked.

Look, when I read that a guy is toast when a tackle gets his hands on him, I'm not going to be high on the guy. When I read that he struggles with technique and takes bad angles on stretch plays, I'm not going to be high on the guy.

Best case scenario is he turns in to Tedy Bruschi or Mike Vrabel. That's not bad, but it's not what the Steelers needed in this draft either.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 12:58 PM
I think that we'll take either Red Bryant, Roy Schuening or Carl Nicks.

Oh Yeah, Thanks Steel Kings, Schuening would work too!

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 12:58 PM
I lost track of who was left yesterday... too much Labatts!

What looks good here. I say O-Line

Edman
04-27-2008, 12:59 PM
Stillers on the Clock!

frigbee
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Now lets look at illinois

Sat, Sep 1st, 2007 Missouri 03:30 PM Edward Jones Dome - St. Louis, L (40 - 34)
Sat, Sep 8th, 2007 Western_Ill 07:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (21 - 0)
Sat, Sep 15th, 2007 at Syracuse 12:00 PM Carrier Dome W (41 - 20)
Sat, Sep 22nd, 2007 at Indiana 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (27 - 14)
Sat, Sep 29th, 2007 Penn_State 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (27 - 20)
Sat, Oct 6th, 2007 Wisconsin 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (31 - 26)
Sat, Oct 13th, 2007 at Iowa 12:05 PM Kinnick Stadium L (10 - 6)
Sat, Oct 20th, 2007 Michigan 08:00 PM Memorial Stadium L (27 - 17)
Sat, Oct 27th, 2007 Ball_State 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (28 - 17)
Sat, Nov 3rd, 2007 at Minnesota 08:00 PM Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome W (44 - 17)
Sat, Nov 10th, 2007 at Ohio_State 03:30 PM Ohio Stadium W (28 - 21)
Sat, Nov 17th, 2007 Northwestern 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (41 - 22)
Tue, Jan 1st, 2008 at U-S-C 05:00 PM Rose Bowl - Rose Bowl, Pasaden L (49 - 17)

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
OK WE ARE ON THE CLOCK

Edman
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
And it's....

What?

WE TRADED OUR PICK!

Steel_Bus_24
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
trade!!

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Does Dallas have enough RB's now. Tashard Choice

millwalldavey
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
TRADE!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Did the Steelers just trade their pick?

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
trade!

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
Well.....I guess Tomlin likes the O line more than he was letting on.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
It will be intersesting to see what picks we got. Damn commercials.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
we traded with the giants.....

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
Trade. I guess it does appear to be the best choice with Bryant and Moore going off the board.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
yes they did just trade.

Steel_Bus_24
04-27-2008, 01:01 PM
Details????

fansince'76
04-27-2008, 01:02 PM
Now lets look at illinois

Sat, Sep 1st, 2007 Missouri 03:30 PM Edward Jones Dome - St. Louis, L (40 - 34)
Sat, Sep 8th, 2007 Western_Ill 07:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (21 - 0)
Sat, Sep 15th, 2007 at Syracuse 12:00 PM Carrier Dome W (41 - 20)
Sat, Sep 22nd, 2007 at Indiana 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (27 - 14)
Sat, Sep 29th, 2007 Penn_State 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (27 - 20)
Sat, Oct 6th, 2007 Wisconsin 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (31 - 26)
Sat, Oct 13th, 2007 at Iowa 12:05 PM Kinnick Stadium L (10 - 6)
Sat, Oct 20th, 2007 Michigan 08:00 PM Memorial Stadium L (27 - 17)
Sat, Oct 27th, 2007 Ball_State 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (28 - 17)
Sat, Nov 3rd, 2007 at Minnesota 08:00 PM Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome W (44 - 17)
Sat, Nov 10th, 2007 at Ohio_State 03:30 PM Ohio Stadium W (28 - 21)
Sat, Nov 17th, 2007 Northwestern 12:00 PM Memorial Stadium W (41 - 22)
Tue, Jan 1st, 2008 at U-S-C 05:00 PM Rose Bowl - Rose Bowl, Pasaden L (49 - 17)

OK, go work out a trade with Tennessee for Thomas then - Mendenhall for Thomas, straight up. Git 'er done.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:02 PM
WTF?! what did we get?

Jeremy
04-27-2008, 01:02 PM
WTF?! what did we get?

Crapped on.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:03 PM
Crapped on.


LOL!:sofunny:

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:03 PM
Hopefully we got another 5th.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:03 PM
130th and a 6th round 194

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 01:04 PM
We got the Giants 6th round pick and there 4th.

Edman
04-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Boneheaded Day 2 so far. Typical Colbert Draft.

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 01:04 PM
As a strong side guy who will run at the QB unblocked.

Look, when I read that a guy is toast when a tackle gets his hands on him, I'm not going to be high on the guy. When I read that he struggles with technique and takes bad angles on stretch plays, I'm not going to be high on the guy.

Best case scenario is he turns in to Tedy Bruschi or Mike Vrabel. That's not bad, but it's not what the Steelers needed in this draft either.

Don't believe everything you read. I read somewhere that Gholston is the next Mike Mamula and that Harvey could be the best pass rusher out of this draft. Should I believe it.

These teams invest an enormous amount of money on scouting. They've must have seen something in him.

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:04 PM
not bad, now we can get corey lynch late.

frigbee
04-27-2008, 01:05 PM
Rashard Mendenhall

Rushing Stats

2007 ILL 262att 1681yds 6.4avrg 79lng 17td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Receiving Stats

2007 ILL 34rec 318yds 9.4avrg 55lng 2td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Chris Johnson

2007 Stats

Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 01:05 PM
Colbert really needs to cut down on his drinking on Saturday nights when he needs to report for draft day duty on Sunday

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:05 PM
what ever its just going to let more oline get drafted...

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:06 PM
Stop arguing, chris johnson doesnt even compare to Rashard.

OneForTheToe
04-27-2008, 01:07 PM
Colbert really needs to cut down on his drinking on Saturday nights when he needs to report for draft day duty on Sunday

I forgot ... I read this morning that this was take you're Mascot to work day.:doh::wink02:

Hey who knows .... he will either be an idiot or a genious for this draft.

fansince'76
04-27-2008, 01:07 PM
Rashard Mendenhall

Rushing Stats

2007 ILL 262att 1681yds 6.4avrg 79lng 17td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Receiving Stats

2007 ILL 34rec 318yds 9.4avrg 55lng 2td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Chris Johnson

2007 Stats

Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR

Thanks, I think we got it the first 5 times you posted it. :coffee:

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:07 PM
trade down 7 picks for an extra 6th?

Probably not a bad deal given Bryant just went off the board.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Rashard Mendenhall

Rushing Stats

2007 ILL 262att 1681yds 6.4avrg 79lng 17td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Receiving Stats

2007 ILL 34rec 318yds 9.4avrg 55lng 2td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Chris Johnson

2007 Stats

Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR


Dude, the pick's been made. Let it go.

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Rashard Mendenhall

Rushing Stats

2007 ILL 262att 1681yds 6.4avrg 79lng 17td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Receiving Stats

2007 ILL 34rec 318yds 9.4avrg 55lng 2td 0fd 0fum 0lost

Chris Johnson

2007 Stats

Rushing: 1423 yards, 6 yards per carry, 17 TD's

Recieving: 37 catches, 528 yards, 14.3 yards per catch, 6 TD's

All Purpose yards: 228 per game #1 in the nation.

ONE FUMBLE ALL YEAR

Are you serious? You have to be the worst arguer ever...

So Johnson is better because he had more... receiving yards?

Lay off the paint chips, kid

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:08 PM
Colbert really needs to cut down on his drinking on Saturday nights when he needs to report for draft day duty on Sunday

im thinking him and grimm working on the boards together may explain our line woes recently.

why didnt we just trade our 3rd rounder? its like they realized what they did and just said eff it for the 4th round. almost seems like theyre reeling.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-27-2008, 01:09 PM
We could still get Nick Hayden as a DE....And I love the Corey Lynch pick that was mentioned

frigbee
04-27-2008, 01:09 PM
The idiocracy of the pick is flabegasting hard to let it go having seen Chris Johnson Play all through college I thought for sure he would be a steeler this year.

Crushzilla
04-27-2008, 01:09 PM
Actually can you post these stats a few more times, frigbee?

I'm hoping Gary has an itchy finger today...

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:10 PM
Actually can you post these stats a few more times, frigbee?

I'm hoping Gary has an itchy finger today...

:sofunny:

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:10 PM
good move with the trade. at this point they probably get the guy they want and an extra pick for depth

frigbee
04-27-2008, 01:10 PM
Since when does having a back who can get open when QB in trouble a bad thing??????

If big bens big head has a badass back like that who could get open when he was in trouble we would not has so many sacks/interceptions

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:11 PM
Titans should of picked Paul Hubbard.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:11 PM
Young finally got a WR.

fansince'76
04-27-2008, 01:12 PM
Since when does having a back who can get open when QB in trouble a bad thing??????

Mewelde Moore, anybody?

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 01:12 PM
Leaving aside the DL being old, if the Steelers really do plan to transition to more 4-3 wouldn't you think drafting a LB with your first defensive pick (after drafting 2 OLBs last year with your first 2 picks) does not really fit any transition to that scheme?

Maybe Colbert is planning to join Cowher somewhere in 2009 and wants to be forced out of his contract?

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:14 PM
the davis pick was a waist.

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 01:14 PM
Frank Okam or Athyba Rubin would be solid picks

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:14 PM
i might regret saying that, but i can only hope that he will produce enough to make me think like that.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:14 PM
Young finally got a WR.

You know they had a stiffy yesterday when Sweed was dropping. I would've loved to see VY's face when we took him right in front of them.:sofunny:

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:15 PM
Patriots Boooooooooo!!! hahaha I love it! lol

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
ok we're up

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
The idiocracy of the pick is flabegasting hard to let it go having seen Chris Johnson Play all through college I thought for sure he would be a steeler this year.


It sound like you are a homer and looking at the draft through colored lenses. That is what it sounds like.

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
lol.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
You know they had a stiffy yesterday when Sweed was dropping. I would've loved to see VY's face when we took him right in front of them.:sofunny:

Lol, yeah man me too. You know he was lookin' around like "who dunnit".

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
LOL! How about a long snapper?

Yeah....that would throw me over the edge. Draft a backup long snapper:banging:

I'd probably start trying to club myself to death with my Steelers coffee mug:coffee:

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:16 PM
Pats pick John David Booty...lol.jk

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:17 PM
sorry jumped the gun fakeriots are on the clock. i got itchy finger

tsmartnick
04-27-2008, 01:17 PM
what would you guys think ot tommy blake in the 5 or 6, he was projected as a top 20 pick if he would of came out after his junior season, but he stayed and battled depression and quit for a while before returning for the last couple of games

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:18 PM
Maybe Colbert is planning to join Cowher somewhere in 2009 and wants to be forced out of his contract?

ouch! :doh: thats bold.

atleast he traded down with the 4th instead of reaching like they did with the third.

thats some improvement. the hangover must be wearing off, and the coffee kicking in. :sofunny:

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 01:18 PM
Stop arguing, chris johnson doesnt even compare to Rashard.

What conference did Johnson play in again???? I honestly never heard of him until he ran at the combine.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:19 PM
If the pats* take O-line we better check our War room for cameras.lol

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:19 PM
i think we go with nicks

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:19 PM
what would you guys think ot tommy blake in the 5 or 6, he was projected as a top 20 pick if he would of came out after his junior season, but he stayed and battled depression and quit for a while before returning for the last couple of gamesis he the one whose sister died?

if so, i'd like it. he's gotten straight and could prove to be great value.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:20 PM
We are on the clock.

Edman
04-27-2008, 01:20 PM
Steelers back on the clock...again.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 01:21 PM
We got the Giants 6th round pick and there 4th.


Weak. gonna get another project O lineman or D lineman that has "potential". Where is my big coffee mug??

Give It To Abercrombie
04-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Nicks now or Richardson in the 5th.

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Pats pick John David Booty...lol.jkthat would be better than the steelers recent picking of underwear out of their booty.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-27-2008, 01:21 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/2006-04-25-draft-philosophy-cover_x.htm

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:21 PM
/Anthony Hills

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
and with the final selection of the 4th round the steelers pick










their nose.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
WE are on the clock.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Tony Hills, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 4.99.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Benchx225: 24.
Projected Round: 3-4.
Tony Hills didn't work out at the combine. Started every game for Texas in 2006. Can play special teams. Nice 40 for his size.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:22 PM
Weak. gonna get another project O lineman or D lineman that has "potential". Where is my big coffee mug??

Easy buddy, you do provide nice insight on this board. Who knows Colbert might need a replacement....lol

OneForTheToe
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
and with the final selection of the 4th round the steelers pick










their nose.

I thought we already lost a Booger. :noidea:

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Whos is Tony Hills?

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
/Anthony Hills

good call

Edman
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Tony Hills out of Texas.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Hypo got it right.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
They will daft DeJuan Tribble just to make me go insane!

Steel_Bus_24
04-27-2008, 01:23 PM
Hills!!! our first O-line choice

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Tony Hills.... he was one of the players I had hoped would be selected on day two. Solid pick here

The Duke
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
o line!!

Give It To Abercrombie
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Highly regarded, had a leg injury. If he's healthy it's a great pick. If.

Preacher
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
WE GOT A TACKLE


WE'RE GOING TO THE SUPERBOWL NOW!!!

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Good pick

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
TONY HILLS! OFFENSIVE TACKLE!! Is he good??? lol

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
Wow..I just realized OL's Eric Young and Roy Schuening are still on the board.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:24 PM
/Anthony Hills

Are you hiding in the corner of the Steelers war room. If so, go smack Colbert in the back of the head for us all. Thank-you.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Tony Hills
"Hills is a former tight end who overcame a devastating injury that threatened his career during his high school days to go on and start 24 of his final 42 games with the Longhorns. Unfortunately, his college career would also be cut short due to a broken fibula in his left leg. He had made a smooth transition to left tackle from tight end as a redshirt freshman and proved to be a capable replacement for former All-American Jonathan Scott."

Get injured alot... bad news

Preacher
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Maybe they know something no one else does...

John Stallworth type pick.. oops.. lost the tape?????

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Overview

Hills is a former tight end who overcame a devastating injury that threatened his career during his high school days to go on and start 24 of his final 42 games with the Longhorns. Unfortunately, his college career would also be cut short due to a broken fibula in his left leg. He had made a smooth transition to left tackle from tight end as a redshirt freshman and proved to be a capable replacement for former All-American Jonathan Scott.

Hills was a three-year starter as a tight end at Alief Elsik High School, where he twice earned All-Greater Houston and All-District honors. A Parade All-America selection who added Class 5A third-team All-State recognition as a senior, he added second-team All-State accolades during his junior campaign.

Hills averaged 17.9 yards on 28 receptions his final two seasons. As a senior, he caught 15 passes for 275 yards for a team that reached the 5A Division I semifinals, but sustained a serious left knee injury in the first half of that contest. He also totaled 13 receptions for 227 yards and a touchdown as a junior. Before giving up basketball prior to his freshman year, he had earned a spot on the U.S. Junior National team.

Because of his knee injury, Hills was granted a medical hardship in 2003 at Texas, giving him time to recover from reconstructive surgery that repaired nerve damage in his knee. Doctors originally feared his playing days were over, but a grueling rehabilitation program saw Hills return to the field in 2004.

As a redshirt freshman, Hills shifted to left tackle. He appeared in seven games on offense and special teams in 2004, competing for playing time. He was part of a line that cleared the way for Texas to rank second in the nation in rushing (299.2 ypg), seventh in total offense (464.4 ypg) and 18th in scoring (35.3 ppg).

In 2005, Hills was a valuable reserve, seeing action in 11 games as Jonathan Scott's caddy at left tackle. That year, the line was responsible for the Longhorns ranking first in the nation in scoring offense (50.2 ppg), second in rushing offense (274.9 ypg) and third in total offense (512.1 ypg).

With Scott gone to the National Football League, Hills stepped into the starting lineup in 2006. He was an All-Big 12 Conference honorable mention and earned a spot on ESPN's All-Mayday Team for being one of college football's "Toughest of the Tough," in addition to being named one of UT's Most Improved Offensive Players. With Hills clearing the way, Texas gained 162.6 rushing yards per game (34th NCAA), 391.5 total yards per game (23rd NCAA) and scored 35.9 points per game (seventh NCAA).

In 2007, Hills earned Walter Camp All-American first-team and was named to the All-Big 12 Conference first-team squad. He started the first 11 games at left tackle before he broke a bone in his left leg. In the 11 games with Hills at left tackle, the team averaged 471.5 yards in total offense and 265.2 yards passing per game, while allowing an average of 1.9 sacks. With Hills on the sideline, the offense averaged 415.5 yards in total offense, 201.5 yards passing and three sacks per contest.

Career Notes

In 24 games starting at left tackle, Hills graded 83.21 percent for blocking consistency on 1,681 snaps...Registered 131 knockdowns with 17 touchdown-resulting blocks, as he allowed just four sacks and seven pressures on 743 pass plays.

High School

Attended Alief Elsik (Houston, Texas) High School, playing football for head coach Bill Barron...Three-year starter as a tight end...Twice earned All-Greater Houston and All-District honors...Parade All-America selection who added Class 5A third-team All-State recognition as a senior...Second-team All-State choice during his junior year...Averaged 17.9 yards on 28 receptions his final two seasons...As a senior, he caught 15 passes for 275 yards for a team that reached the 5A Division I semifinals, but sustained a serious left knee injury in the first half of that contest...Totaled 13 receptions for 227 yards and a touchdown as a junior...Before giving up basketball prior to his freshman year, he had earned a spot on the U.S. Junior National team.

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Dino 6 Rings
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
here comes our Depth Picks

tony hipchest
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
finally!!!! all is well.

tony hills will be better than half of the 15 linemen drafted in the 1st round and we can all sleep at night.

bye bye starks and smith!

19ward86
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
So, Frank Okam in the 5th?

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
Tony Hills, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 4.99.
Combine 40 Time: Did not run.
Benchx225: 24.
Projected Round: 3-4.
Tony Hills didn't work out at the combine. Started every game for Texas in 2006. Can play special teams. Nice 40 for his size.

Nice 40 when he runs it - was he hurt or did he miss his flight to the combine?

As stated by another poster, another OL "project" as the Steelers continue to believe they can make chicken salad by drafting chicken sh** for the OL.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-27-2008, 01:25 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/tony-hills?id=258


Not bad!!!

yinzer-inseattle
04-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Scoop on Hills

The Good
Strengths: Possesses outstanding height and wingspan. Continues to add bulk to frame and still has room left to get bigger. He displays good feet and balance. A natural knee-bender with good mirror-and-slide skills in pass pro. He's big enough to engulf smaller defenders at the point of attack. Has quick hands and does a good job of keeping pass rushers in front of him. Very impressive mobility when asked to pull or block downfield on runs and screens. Fires out quickly in the run game and takes solid angles.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Analysis

Positives: Has a tall frame with good bone structure and can carry at least another 20 pounds of bulk without having the added weight affect his overall quickness...Lacks ideal explosiveness coming off the snap, but has developed into an efficient position-and-wall-off type of blocker...Has adequate foot speed to get into position, but needs to do this with more urgency...Hard worker in the training room, evident by the progress he made in recovering from a career-threatening injury in 2003...Struggles to adjust laterally, but shows a nice slide and good pad level working in-line, using his hands well to widen the rush lanes...Plays with better balance and base at the line of scrimmage than when on the move...Good position blocker who works to sustain, but you would like to see him play with more aggression...Plays the game with his feet flat and shows enough forward surge to get some movement...More of a position blocker in the running game, getting better inside leverage than on the outside...When he keeps his pads down, he is able to wall off or force the chase routes, as he is effective at turning his hips and mirroring in the short area...Uses his long arms and reach to engulf smaller opponents...Might lack the physical components to dominate, but shows good technique with his hands, keeping them active and within his frame...Can hit moving targets in the short area, but is best moving straight ahead than down the line (good on the short pulls, sluggish on the long ones)...Adequate readjusting inside, but has decent retreat skills to protect the pocket...Can flash some quickness to defeat the defensive end to the set point and protect the corner, but will give up his upfield shoulder when he gets too tall in his stance...Grabs and clutches to control defender, compensating for a lack of a jarring hand punch.

Negatives: Had a career-threatening knee injury in high school that resulted in nerve damage and needed minor surgery later to clean out debris...Coupled with his left leg (fibula) fracture late in 2007, further medical evaluation will be needed to get him a clean bill of health...Not explosive coming out of his stance and while he is a good position-type blocker, he lacks pop behind his hand punch...Might be a better fit inside at guard, as he's a bit of a waist bender with some stiffness in his hips that causes him to struggle vs. movement at times...Has to become more aggressive shooting his hands with force, as his punch won't shock or jolt an oncoming defender...Plays at a even keel tempo, but you would like to see a more "nasty" nature from a left tackle...Gets good hand placement, but must lock on, grab and drag down defenders with better intent (seems to be going through the motions at times)...When he gets too erect in his stance, bull rushers have had success pushing him back into the pocket and he needs to hunker down and anchor better (base gets narrow)...Likes to grab his opponent a lot, but needs to be more discrete when doing so to prevent costly penalties...Not the quickest in recognizing defensive schemes and will be late off the X's...Has problems moving laterally to handle the edge rushers and needs to be more forceful shooting his hands on reach blocks...Can handle the short pull, but his timed speed fails to translate when he has to move to the second level (looks sluggish moving long distances)...Better working in-line and must do a better job of staying square in his kick slide, as defenders have had success getting past him with good club moves on his outside shoulder...Must stay with his blocks longer moving upfield and has to take better angles when looking for second-level targets to hit.

Compares To: JONATHAN SCOTT-Detroit...Like the player he replaced in the Texas starting lineup, Hills is very effective blocking in-line, and if he can show more urgency on the pulls and traps he might be a better fit at guard than at tackle. He lacks the loose hips and strength to shock and jolt vs. the bull rush, but does a good job of widening the rush lanes, thanks to good hand placement and long arms. He can be pushed back to the pocket vs. a strong bull rush, as he has a marginal anchor. His injury problems are a concern, as it could impact his quickness, which is adequate at best.

Injury Report

2002: Suffered nerve damage in his left knee that required reconstructive surgery during his high school senior year...Doctors feared his career would end, but he underwent a grueling rehabilitation process while redshirting at Texas in 2003 and was back on the playing field by the 2004 season opener.

2007: Suffered a left leg fibula fracture in the Texas Tech game (11/10), missing the final two games of the season vs. Texas A&M (11/23) and Arizona State (12/27) in the Holiday Bowl.

Black@Gold Forever32
04-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Finally a OL picked so everybody will finally be happy.....I agree the Steelers needed to address their OL but after the top guys were gone......the rest of the pack didn't really thrill me....Is there really a big difference between Duane Brown and Tony Hills....Brown was a reach for the Texans in the first round and Hills could be a steal in the 4th...You just never know...

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:27 PM
i guess hes alright mabey a gem lets wait and see its good we got a lineman!

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-27-2008, 01:27 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2008/draft/players/5025.html
Tony Hills
BIOGRAPHY: Two-year starter at left tackle awarded All-Conference honors as a senior. Fractured his leg late last season, which put him on the sidelines. Tore a knee ligament in high school and spent a year rehabilitating the injury before entering college.

POSITIVES: Fundamentally sound left tackle who.s at his best as a pass-protector. Blocks with good pad level, sets with a wide base, and makes outstanding use of body positioning as well as blocking angles. Slides out off the edge, stays square, and nicely works his hands throughout the play. Shows the ability to adjust and jolts defenders with good hand-punch. Fights hard until the whistle blows.

NEGATIVES: Lacks the dominant base and gets minimal movement run-blocking. Does not play with a nasty attitude. Marginally effective in motion. Has a history of injuries dating back to high school.

ANALYSIS: Hills has shown flashes of ability the past two seasons and could play at the next level if he ever stays healthy.

PROJECTION: Late Fourth Round

Elvis
04-27-2008, 01:27 PM
Wow..I just realized OL's Eric Young and Roy Schuening are still on the board.
No Schuening or Demario Pressley.. I am dissapointed. The last 2 picks have made up for the first 2.
:noidea:

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Looking on the bright side, at least they did not spend the pick on a kicker

The Duke
04-27-2008, 01:28 PM
he's 6'6"! monster, instant starter :flap:

OneForTheToe
04-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Let me be the first to blame Arians for this pick. Obviously he wants to convert him back to TE.:flap:

fansince'76
04-27-2008, 01:29 PM
Looking on the bright side, at least they did not spend the pick on a kicker

PK coming in the 5th. :chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
04-27-2008, 01:29 PM
Let me be the first to blame Arians for this pick. obviously he wants to convert him back to TE.:flap:

Too late - I already blamed Arians for the whole draft yesterday:sofunny:

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-27-2008, 01:30 PM
Wow..I just realized OL's Eric Young and Roy Schuening are still on the board.

Yeah, I never got the deal with Scheuning and am glad he didnt end up here. Same with Barton.

I'm happy with Hills experience and ability, just the injury history is a bit of a red flag.

I know Nicks has much less experience, but I think has a better upside. I'm just pleased we got a decent lineman. Now maybe your boy Legursky is one of the 6th rounders?

The Duke
04-27-2008, 01:31 PM
Too late - I already blamed Arians for the whole draft yesterday:sofunny:

why? we all know it's willie's fault.

OneForTheToe
04-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Too late - I already blamed Arians for the whole draft yesterday:sofunny:

LOL ... Starks played TE last season as well. Arians' plans are almost complete for using 9 man TE formations.

tsmartnick
04-27-2008, 01:33 PM
Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, TCU (Senior)
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 282 lbs
Bench: 23
40 Time: 4.80
Vertical: 30.5

GRADE:

POSITIVES
• Extremely productive (23 career sacks and 44.5 TFL’s)
• Put together nicely – incredible physique
• Fast – good speed off the edge
• Great motor
• Factor vs. run, as well as pass
• Nice complete set of moves (speed rush, jukes, spin, bull) – sets up his man

NEGATIVES
• Has taken two medical leaves of absence this season for undisclosed reasons, rumored to be related to his mental health
• Is he maxed out weight wise?
• Does not appear overly athletic in space – can he cover as a 3-4 OLB?
• Has a tendency to stand up, look, then react to plays

ANALYSIS
If you are evaluating strictly on talent, Tommy Blake is a no-brainer 1st Rounder. His pass rush ability jumps out at you as you watch film. But, as I have alluded to, Blake only participated in 8 games this season, missing time for what is believed to be stress-related issues. By all accounts, Blake’s mental health is a real question mark and teams must evaluate if this guy is really suited to handle the rigors of the sport.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:33 PM
11th ranked OT on Walter Football after the death of Heath Benedict.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:33 PM
PK coming in the 5th. :chuckle:

I'm still pullin' for that long snapper.:flap:

Texasteel
04-27-2008, 01:35 PM
I think LLT may have called the next pick in Young, that would give us 2 linemen that without the injurys would have probably be 2nd round picks.

Texasteel
04-27-2008, 01:37 PM
Tommy Blake, DE/OLB, TCU (Senior)
Height: 6’3”
Weight: 282 lbs
Bench: 23
40 Time: 4.80
Vertical: 30.5

GRADE:

POSITIVES
• Extremely productive (23 career sacks and 44.5 TFL’s)
• Put together nicely – incredible physique
• Fast – good speed off the edge
• Great motor
• Factor vs. run, as well as pass
• Nice complete set of moves (speed rush, jukes, spin, bull) – sets up his man

NEGATIVES
• Has taken two medical leaves of absence this season for undisclosed reasons, rumored to be related to his mental health
• Is he maxed out weight wise?
• Does not appear overly athletic in space – can he cover as a 3-4 OLB?
• Has a tendency to stand up, look, then react to plays

ANALYSIS
If you are evaluating strictly on talent, Tommy Blake is a no-brainer 1st Rounder. His pass rush ability jumps out at you as you watch film. But, as I have alluded to, Blake only participated in 8 games this season, missing time for what is believed to be stress-related issues. By all accounts, Blake’s mental health is a real question mark and teams must evaluate if this guy is really suited to handle the rigors of the sport.

Maybe thats why they wanted the extra 6th round pick.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:37 PM
Do we still have the 156th overall pick, or does that change with the trade from the Giants?

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:39 PM
Do we still have the 156th overall pick, or does that change with the trade from the Giants?

we still have it

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-27-2008, 01:40 PM
I am looking for Okam in the fifth

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:41 PM
I think Carl Nicks is still available, probably not when we pick though.

And my speedy monster, Brandon Keith

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:41 PM
we still have it
Cool. Thanks.

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:42 PM
Lets get another lineman!

Texasteel
04-27-2008, 01:43 PM
I think Carl Nicks is still available, probably not when we pick though.

And my speedy monster, Brandon Keith

I really though Keith might be the pick this round.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
Vikings just got some "Booty". lol

BettisFan
04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
20 picks away :(

rbryan
04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
If Hills is healthy this will end up being a great pick. He has a year to learn and heal up.

I say we get him to the same doc that rebuilt Ben and have some titanium fibulas installed asap.

WalterQ26
04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
hey guys! I just registered right now ... i saw you guys picked up a good friend of mine in Tony Hills. U guys are going to love him. Just ask me questions if you want to know more on what kind of guy he is.

Great draft by the way.

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:44 PM
I wonder if there was a "Booty" call?

Elvis
04-27-2008, 01:45 PM
I am looking for Okam in the fifth
I just hope that he is still around at that time. What did the Steelers get in the trade with the Dolphins?
:coffee:

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:45 PM
hey guys! I just registered right now ... i saw you guys picked up a good friend of mine in Tony Hills. U guys are going to love him. Just ask me questions if you want to know more on what kind of guy he is.

Great draft by the way.

How's the leg?

jasonhightower
04-27-2008, 01:46 PM
hey guys! I just registered right now ... i saw you guys picked up a good friend of mine in Tony Hills. U guys are going to love him. Just ask me questions if you want to know more on what kind of guy he is.

Great draft by the way.

Walter, did he have any problems playing last season with those past injuries? Any lingering effects?

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:46 PM
I just hope that he is still around at that time. What did the Steelers get in the trade with the Dolphins?
:coffee:

We traded with the Giants and got an additional pick in the 6th round I believe.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:47 PM
Vikings just got some "Booty". lol


Who did they get?

43Hitman
04-27-2008, 01:49 PM
:sofunny:

WalterQ26
04-27-2008, 01:49 PM
How's the leg?

Last i spoke to him a couple months ago... he said he is getting better.

Only knock on Tony is his injuries. Coming out of High School, he was the #1 ranked Tight End in the State. Amazing amazing skills. He was also the highest ranked basketball player going his freshman year but gave that up.

If you want to know about attitude. Dude is one great guy. Very smart in the classroom, was in mostly honor classes in high school. He is the type of guy everybody will love after 2 minutes of talking with him.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:49 PM
Nevermind I see now, NFL.com had it posted as Green Bay. I was like WTF?

VTsteel
04-27-2008, 01:49 PM
hey guys! I just registered right now ... i saw you guys picked up a good friend of mine in Tony Hills. U guys are going to love him. Just ask me questions if you want to know more on what kind of guy he is.

Great draft by the way.

Hey Walter - Welcome to the Steeler Nation!

I am curious about our new Offensive lineman . . . questions are being raised about his mental health - What can you say with regard to that?

And - He missed games this past year - Why did he miss so many games?