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Hypocycloid
04-26-2008, 08:10 PM
Tomlin High On Mendenhall
7:30 PM ET NFL.com - Frank Tadych

Taking a look back at the first round, there's a consensus here that the Steelers got great value in taking RB Rashard Mendenhall at No. 24. It's one of those picks that seems to make sense all the way around. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin says the club was pleased he fell to them.

"Coming into the day we weren't confident any of the guys we wanted would be on the board, but we are very pleased one of those guys, Rashard Mendenhall fell to us," said Tomlin. "We had this young man very high on our board and we're happy we got him. There was an eruption in the room when we saw the Cowboys took Felix Jones and we knew we would get our man. It's awesome that he has low mileage and he's shown the ability to be a workhorse and catch the ball out of the backfield."

19ward86
04-26-2008, 09:06 PM
He is the big shocker of the 1st round, followed by Joe Flacco getting picking in the 1st round also.

Haiku_Dirtt
04-26-2008, 11:04 PM
With all of the potential vacancies on the o-line depth chart and we take a running back?

Genius.

It's obvious that the required build-up for the o-line is going to take time. Adding one mediocre body from the end of the first round to the long list of question marks we already have is going to help us how?

The one major difference repeated over and over again by rookies who make the jump to the NFL is speed. The one common denominator for Adrian Peterson, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart is that they all played against SC and with the exception of Stewert were all on the wrong end of an ass whoopin' - for McFadden and Jones...ass whooping times two.

But Stewert faced a dismantled version of the defense that turned Zook's squad upside down. There were perhaps two flashes of Mendenhall where he made the USC defense look like Division II - no worse, like the Buckeye defense :hatsoff:

One hit wonder or just hitting stride? Perhaps he'll prove to be a three down back if Willie needs a breather or worse goes down. If Willie does go down then who would fill in? Davenport has limits. Where I think Rashard can make an immediate impact is in the passing game. Being the third or fourth option before Ben gets decapitated again and again will be a treasure trove for us. We hope.

We'll still go 8-8 though.

Hypocycloid
04-26-2008, 11:14 PM
With all of the potential vacancies on the o-line depth chart and we take a running back?

Genius.

It's obvious that the required build-up for the o-line is going to take time. Adding one mediocre body from the end of the first round to the long list of question marks we already have is going to help us how?

The one major difference repeated over and over again by rookies who make the jump to the NFL is speed. The one common denominator for Adrian Peterson, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Rashard Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart is that they all played against SC and with the exception of Stewert were all on the wrong end of an ass whoopin' - for McFadden and Jones...ass whooping times two.

But Stewert faced a dismantled version of the defense that turned Zook's squad upside down. There were perhaps two flashes of Mendenhall where he made the USC defense look like Division II - no worse, like the Buckeye defense :hatsoff:

One hit wonder or just hitting stride? Perhaps he'll prove to be a three down back if Willie needs a breather or worse goes down. If Willie does go down then who would fill in? Davenport has limits. Where I think Rashard can make an immediate impact is in the passing game. Being the third or fourth option before Ben gets decapitated again and again will be a treasure trove for us. We hope.

We'll still go 8-8 though.

Did you mean Mendenhall faced a dismantled version of USC's defense? Didn't Mendehall dismantle USC's defense. He was the only bright spot for Illinois. Maybe I am mistaken.

BettisFan
04-26-2008, 11:44 PM
Thats the last thing we want to be hearing Tomlin is high on something lol

Steeldude
04-27-2008, 12:10 AM
an O-line without a single good player waiting in the wings. an aging D-line with no future starters or depth. those problems have now been solved by drafting a RB who will not start anytime soon.

hopefully mendenhall plays like a 1st round RB. meaning he should get 1,500+ yards. does he really have anymore potential than russell? all remains to be seen.

i wouldn't be surprised if the steelers select another RB and WR on sunday.

Black@Gold Forever32
04-27-2008, 12:21 AM
an O-line without a single good player waiting in the wings. an aging D-line with no future starters or depth. those problems have now been solved by drafting a RB who will not start anytime soon.

hopefully mendenhall plays like a 1st round RB. meaning he should get 1,500+ yards. does he really have anymore potential than russell? all remains to be seen.

i wouldn't be surprised if the steelers select another RB and WR on sunday.

I have asked this question about a dozen times today....So lets make it one more time....What OL or DL at 23 do the Steelers take?

Clady, Williams and Albert were gone......Cherilus and Otah were also gone....even freaking Sam Baker was gone...lol I know lets reach for Duane Brown who is a 2nd round talent at best...lol Only OG worth taking in the first was Albert.....No center was worth drafting in the first....

At DL I wasn't really thrilled with Balmer or Campbell....I don't think they fit the 3-4....which the Steelers still employ as their base defense.....Phillip Merling would have been a solid pick and I really could see Merling at 23...But I'm also not sure if he can play in a 3-4.....

Mendenhall was considered the second best RB in this draft and offered to much value to pass up.....Same goes for Sweed in the 2nd round....At the Steelers pick in the second round the OL and DL left didn't meet the value Sweed had.....

There is still some quality OL and DL left out there.....This is were the Steelers really need to hit big and put the final touches on a potentially great draft....

Preacher
04-27-2008, 12:26 AM
I have asked this question about a dozen times today....So lets make it one more time....What OL or DL at 23 do the Steelers take?

Clady, Williams and Albert were gone......Cherilus and Otah were also gone....even freaking Sam Baker was gone...lol I know lets reach for Duane Brown who is a 2nd round talent at best...lol Only OG worth taking in the first was Albert.....No center was worth drafting in the first....

At DL I wasn't really thrilled with Balmer or Campbell....I don't think they fit the 3-4....which the Steelers still employ as their base defense.....Phillip Merling would have been a solid pick and I really could see Merling at 23...But I'm also not sure if he can play in a 3-4.....

Mendenhall was considered the second best RB in this draft and offered to much value to pass up.....Same goes for Sweed in the 2nd round....At the Steelers pick in the second round the OL and DL left didn't meet the value Sweed had.....

There is still some quality OL and DL left out there.....This is were the Steelers really need to hit big and put the final touches on a potentially great draft....

I think there was a couple different things.

1. the idea was to trade down about 5 or 8 picks and pick up another pick in the second or third round. Then, pick up Merling or someone else.

2. the other question is.. why didn't they trade a third to move up and pick a OL or even a DL.

When they were sitting at their pick... and maybe not the right offers coming in... who should have they picked? At that point, other than maybe merling... it is a good pick.

Steeldude
04-27-2008, 12:40 AM
I have asked this question about a dozen times today....So lets make it one more time....What OL or DL at 23 do the Steelers take?


trade down or trade up.

picking BPA in a position that doesn't need an upgrade is puzzling. there is a very good chance that mendenhall won't see the field for 3 or more years.

polamalu82
04-27-2008, 12:46 AM
I have asked this question about a dozen times today....So lets make it one more time....What OL or DL at 23 do the Steelers take?

Clady, Williams and Albert were gone......Cherilus and Otah were also gone....even freaking Sam Baker was gone...lol I know lets reach for Duane Brown who is a 2nd round talent at best...lol Only OG worth taking in the first was Albert.....No center was worth drafting in the first....

At DL I wasn't really thrilled with Balmer or Campbell....I don't think they fit the 3-4....which the Steelers still employ as their base defense.....Phillip Merling would have been a solid pick and I really could see Merling at 23...But I'm also not sure if he can play in a 3-4.....

Mendenhall was considered the second best RB in this draft and offered to much value to pass up.....Same goes for Sweed in the 2nd round....At the Steelers pick in the second round the OL and DL left didn't meet the value Sweed had.....

There is still some quality OL and DL left out there.....This is were the Steelers really need to hit big and put the final touches on a potentially great draft....

You see it exactly the way I wish everyone on this board should see it. Every NFL team has a draft board. Listed "first" to "worst". In the early rounds you take Best Available Player left on your board. The Steelers had no DL or OL players ranked high enough in rounds 1 and 2 to make the call.

Hypocycloid
04-27-2008, 01:26 AM
trade down or trade up.

picking BPA in a position that doesn't need an upgrade is puzzling. there is a very good chance that mendenhall won't see the field for 3 or more years.


I respectfully disagree with you and so does Willie Parker who asked for another RB to be drafted to extend his career. Were you watching any of the games after FWP went down? Did you see Jacksonville's one-two punch at running back? How about the Giant's two back system? Most NFL teams have gone to two back systems and usually try to have quality backups! One back systems--St. Louis, San Diego, Indy, KC, that's what makes their rbs such great fantasy backs, but there are less and less of them every year. But remember that Indy , KC, and St. Louis all had injuries to their running backs. RB is the most injury prone position. There was definitely a need there, but no one expected them to address it that high. Sure there is a definite need at DL and OL but it would have likely been depth anyway. If they were to move up, they would have lost a key pick this year to address other needs, maybe two picks. You and the Steelers weren't certain where all of the OT's were going to go anyway. They aren't clairvoyant, and we have the fortune of 20/20 hindsight. I am sure that the Steelers were sure that someone of value would slip to them, whether it be a DE, OL, or Cornerback. They just never envisioned such a value at RB! Mendenhall will not sit for three years, that's crazy. He is going to split time with parker and get goal line carries.

Galax Steeler
04-27-2008, 03:55 AM
A player of his caliber we couldn't afford to pass him up davenport isn't the answer if something happened to willie atleast we have depth at running back now.

Texasteel
04-27-2008, 07:20 AM
Trade up? The best our 3 rounder could have gotten us was Baker, and I didn't want him with our 1st, let alone our 1st and 3rd. Trading down would not have gotten us the OT we needed, only what we will be getting anyway, a usable backup.

Mendenhall will not start for us, but I bet he gets close to half the plays each game, and will be there if Willy get hurt agine. Sweed is our # 3 WR right now, and will keep us from having to over use an aging Ward.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-27-2008, 10:17 AM
I respectfully disagree with you and so does Willie Parker who asked for another RB to be drafted to extend his career. Were you watching any of the games after FWP went down? Did you see Jacksonville's one-two punch at running back? How about the Giant's two back system? Most NFL teams have gone to two back systems and usually try to have quality backups! One back systems--St. Louis, San Diego, Indy, KC, that's what makes their rbs such great fantasy backs, but there are less and less of them every year. But remember that Indy , KC, and St. Louis all had injuries to their running backs. RB is the most injury prone position. There was definitely a need there, but no one expected them to address it that high. Sure there is a definite need at DL and OL but it would have likely been depth anyway. If they were to move up, they would have lost a key pick this year to address other needs, maybe two picks. You and the Steelers weren't certain where all of the OT's were going to go anyway. They aren't clairvoyant, and we have the fortune of 20/20 hindsight. I am sure that the Steelers were sure that someone of value would slip to them, whether it be a DE, OL, or Cornerback. They just never envisioned such a value at RB! Mendenhall will not sit for three years, that's crazy. He is going to split time with parker and get goal line carries.

Yea I completely agree. Does everyone forget that we had a two back system when we won the superbowl? Since then, the running game has been on and off. I like the pick. Sure the OL and DL are big needs, but you can find a lot of quality OL and DL-men on day two.

Just got a OLB, Bruce Davis

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=12173&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl draft%2fdraft%2ftracker%2fplayer%3fid%3d12173

I dunno anything about him. But we can always use another LB in Pittsburgh.

[From ESPN draft tracker]
Erik (Grand Rapids): Do you think it was smart for the Steelers to pick a LB instead of a OG?

Scouts, Inc.'s Ken Moll: Erik, The Steelers need both positions and they took who they felt was the best Value at the time.

DM (Maryland): What's your take on the Felix Jones vs Mendenhall debate on who Jerry Jones picked at 22? Should Mendenhall have been the pick?

Scouts, Inc.'s Ken Moll: DM, both are good backs but different runing styles. Jones has more speed and a better compliment to Barber. Mendenhall will be a great compliment to Parker as he is more of a hardnosed downhill, between the tackles runner (though he can get to the edge). Both Clubs appeared to make the best choice for their respective team needs.

Texasteel
04-27-2008, 10:23 AM
Wasn't expection an OLB here, but Davis could become a very good one. Round 4 has got to be a DL or OL dosn't it?

revefsreleets
04-27-2008, 03:25 PM
But Stewert faced a dismantled version of the defense that turned Zook's squad upside down. There were perhaps two flashes of Mendenhall where he made the USC defense look like Division II - no worse, like the Buckeye defense :hatsoff:



I am SO glad USC took the home/home with the Buckeyes. You are a one trick pony constantly blasting the Bucks. What will your excuse be if the Trojans drop the game next year in their own backyard? Injuries? Conspiracy? Space Aliens? The fact of the matter is, the Trojans choke far worse than the Bucks. Look at all the high USC draft picks this year. All that talent, and they choke like little bitches every single year. I still have Stanford beating them IN THEIR OWN HOUSE as the most embarrassing loss of all time. Appy State beating Michigan pales in comparison because they are a quality opponent, albeit D1-AA. Stanford was just awful last year. Awful.

The Buckeye bashing got old a year ago...

steeler dude
04-28-2008, 03:50 AM
are you guys bling there was 6 o-line players taken before the steelers picked should we have taken the 7th best o- lineman for our first round ?

DACEB
04-28-2008, 06:25 AM
Tomlin and the team, IMO, wanted to bring in another highly rated RB to help analyze the O-line. I think there is a question about FWPs vision as a RB. I honestly believe the team feels the O-line is better than what the stats have shown. There is a theory that both FWP and Ben aren't the easiest to block for. Mendenhall will be a variable in analyzing that theory.

OneForTheToe
04-28-2008, 11:29 AM
Tomlin High on Mendenhall


Maybe they should send him to rehab ... but he'll probably say no, no , no.....

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-28-2008, 11:37 AM
are you guys bling there was 6 o-line players taken before the steelers picked should we have taken the 7th best o- lineman for our first round ?

There was actually 7 O line prospects taken and I'm glad the Steelers didnt reach for the 8th in Duane Brown like Houston did. The only other pick that made sense was Balmer at that point.

I'm an admitted O-line pimp as I used to play it and still coach O-line and attend coaching clinics......I'm glad they didnt reach for an O lineman after what happened, but would have liked to see Anthony Collins in the 3rd or 4th.

Mendenhall will be amazing!! The guy is similar in size and speed to Ladanian Tomlinson. He's no LT, but a great powerful compliment to Parker and a guy that might take Parker's job in a few years.

Galax Steeler
04-28-2008, 01:13 PM
If willie wants a bunch of money when his contract is up then mendenhall will be your no.1 back.

revefsreleets
04-28-2008, 02:02 PM
My buddy said he just heard that Parker is experiencing a lot of pain running at full speed. This is an unconfirmed rumor, but it sure makes me feel even better about the RM pick.

Steelers43fan
04-28-2008, 08:19 PM
an O-line without a single good player waiting in the wings. an aging D-line with no future starters or depth. those problems have now been solved by drafting a RB who will not start anytime soon.

hopefully mendenhall plays like a 1st round RB. meaning he should get 1,500+ yards. does he really have anymore potential than russell? all remains to be seen.

i wouldn't be surprised if the steelers select another RB and WR on sunday.

Does Rashard have any more potential than Russell? Are you kidding me? I hope your joking ...Have you ever watched Mendenhall? Didn't think so! Russell ever gaines 1600 yards in college behind a bad offensive line...where he had to do most of the work? NO
Come on man!

Steelerdude, do you actually believe Mendenhall may not start soon...this is the NFL where players are one play away from becoming starters because of Serious injuries. Where was Willie when we needed our star running back in the playoffs? On the bench from a season ending injury......
Also who would you have drafted at the Offensive line position in the first round? Please answer, because this should be real good. Put your GM cap on...Because there was absolutely NO ONE worthy of #23...the best Olinemen were gone long before we picked.
I can't wait for this answer.