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Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 09:38 PM
I really liked this article....This guy sounds like a Steelers LB to me......I really enjoyed how he says he is going to unload on Peyton Manning and Tom Brady....:sofunny: I think this kid is going to be the next former college DE to make the transition to OLB in our D....This kid won't be Alonzo Jackson...lol

Life in transition
All-America DE Bruce Davis switching to LB for NFL

The sun has yet to rise above Agoura Hills, a quiet suburb 30 miles northwest of downtown Los Angeles, but Bruce Davis is already sitting in the middle of a local deli, learning how to play linebacker the only way you can at this hour.

With coffee creamers and fruit jam packages spread across the table, like Xs and Os on a chalkboard, Davis is learning the basics of a position he rarely played in college but must now adapt to as if he's played it his entire career.

"It's definitely a challenge, but I love a challenge," said Davis, who recorded 24.5 sacks over the past two seasons at UCLA as defensive end and was named an All-American defensive last season. "I love the game. Nobody can try and take this game away from me. They're trying to, but I'm going to let them know they can't."

At 6-foot-3, 241 pounds, Davis' lack of size has forced him to move to outside linebacker from his more natural defensive end position that made him a premier college pass rusher. While Davis braces himself for the uncertainty of playing a new position, Gary Wichard, Davis' agent, confidently watches longtime college and NFL defensive coordinator Foge Fazio mentor Davis over breakfast as he sips his coffee in between glances at the morning newspaper.

This is nothing new for Wichard, who watched his client Adam Archuletta go from an undersized college linebacker to the first defensive back taken in the 2001 NFL draft. Davis, however, is more of a cross between Dwight Freeney and Jason Taylor, two other Wichard clients that went from tweeners to Pro Bowlers.

"The NFL is about imitation not innovation," said Wichard. "If you can say he's a blank-blank type, you're in good shape. Bruce is the next Jason Taylor. When I first saw Jason he wasn't even a power forward, he was a small forward at 229 pounds. Jason broke the door down for guys like Bruce Davis and Dwight Freeney, the undersized guys that can get to the quarterback."

Wichard doesn't shy away from imitation. If anything he flaunts it, using many of his clients in the league such as Taylor and Freeney as examples of what his current crop of rookies -- Davis, Miami defensive end Calais Campbell and North Carolina defensive tackle Kentwan Balmer -- could become if they follow his "game plan."

The game plan is an actual playbook-sized collection of tips, analysis and anecdotes that Wichard has collected over his 20-plus years as an agent, personalized for each client. The first page of the game plan is a four-tiered schedule that takes the player from his final season to his eventual NFL contract. Davis is currently in the midst of the third phase after participating in last week's NFL Combine and preparing for his Pro Day next Thursday at UCLA.

"It all starts here," says Wichard, pointing at a fog-covered football field at nearby Agoura High, where his players are currently training. "That's all I know. After that it's just money. You're going to get a lot more money if you're picked here [hand above head] than if you were picked here [hand below waist]; its simple arithmetic."

Davis is one of the biggest mysteries in next month's NFL draft, and certainly amongst Wichard's three client's in the draft (both Campbell and Balmer are projected to go in the first round, while Davis could go anywhere from the first to the third round). Wichard, it seems, revels in such ambiguity and loves showing off old mock drafts that have none of his clients being taken in the first round and comparing them with the actual selections and seeing all of his guys in there.

As Davis practices against Fazio, alternating between coming off the edge and dropping back into coverage, Wichard gets a call from an NFL general manager and wastes little time hyping up his incoming class.

"You have to see Davis in person," he says. "He's a Jason Taylor-clone."

Again, imitation not innovation.

"I actually think Bruce is going to be a unique player," says Fazio, who most recently was a defensive consultant for the Vikings in 2005. "He's going to be able to put his hand on the ground and also stand up; maybe be a 3-4 linebacker like the Steelers play or be a specialist on third downs when he comes out and rushes the passer, but he has some special skills."

After going through football drills with Fazio and other professional coaches for a couple of hours alongside Balmer and Campbell, Davis gets a moment to relax a bit when the group drives to a nearby restaurant for lunch, although Davis' training technically never ends.

"The hardest adjustment for me is eating," says Davis, who has gained 10 pounds of muscle since the end of last season. "Before I started training I never thought twice about what I ate. I figured I could eat whatever I wanted, but it's not like that at all. I need to gain weight, so I've stepped up my carb intake so much that I have to eat five times a day with snacks in between."

Davis began his daily training regimen for the draft soon after his college football career ended at the Las Vegas Bowl, when he memorably let his emotions go and cried as he walked off the field after UCLA lost to BYU on a missed, chip-shot field goal.

"People always tell me to calm down or tell me I get too emotional. No, no, no. This game is my life," says Davis, whose father Bruce Sr. also went to UCLA and won two Super Bowl rings as an offensive lineman for the Raiders. "As far as I'm concerned I owe this game everything I have, so every time I go out there on the field I let it go. There's no let up, there's none of that. It's just not in my wiring. When I was little kid, I asked my dad if I could miss practice to go to mall one time and I got smacked in the face. There is no room for complacency with me. I'll never take a day off. The day I play my last snap of NFL football is the day I'll finally kick my feet up. "

As Davis talks about football, an NFL highlight package pops up on the television near the restaurant's bar and the immediacy of it all -- Pro Day, the NFL draft and his first NFL season -- finally begins to hit Davis.

"It's overwhelming to think about this sometimes, but at the same time this is what I wanted my whole life," he says as he looks at the television. "If the opportunity presents itself and I catch Peyton Manning with his arm still in the air ready to profanityfilterprofanityfilterprofanityfilterprofa nityfilter back and throw, I'm going to unload on him. Same goes for Tom Brady and all those guys. They're going to be out there trying to torch whatever team I'm playing on, so if I catch 'em, I'm going to hit 'em. I'm going to hit them as hard as I can and let them know that I'm there."

Just as he finishes his sentence, a highlight of Taylor sacking Manning flashes on the screen, and there is Wichard smiling in the distance.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...vis/index.html

NJarhead
04-28-2008, 10:02 PM
The more I read and listen, the more I like this guy. I think we had an outstanding draft. I just hope our O-Line holds out this year. Maybe we can take an OT with the 32nd pick next year. :wink02: :tt02:

Texasteel
04-28-2008, 10:03 PM
I have alread seen 2 post claiming that Davis will be cut before the end of training camp. I bet it won't be 2 weeks before some here will be compairing him to Jackson.

He would have to be in the Hall Of Fame for 3 years before a couple here will admit that he may be able to adjust to the pro game.

Me, I can't wait to see the kid on the field.

Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 10:09 PM
I have alread seen 2 post claiming that Davis will be cut before the end of training camp. I bet it won't be 2 weeks before some here will be compairing him to Jackson.

He would have to be in the Hall Of Fame for 3 years before a couple here will admit that he may be able to adjust to the pro game.

Me, I can't wait to see the kid on the field.

I liked the Bruce Davis pick.....You can't have enough pass rushers...I don't know I see him being more Joey Porter then Zo Jackson.....I'm not saying he will be as good as Porter before anybody jumps on me...lol I just think he won't bust like Jackson....

SteelersMongol
04-28-2008, 10:11 PM
When I watched the highlights of his games from his college days, I liked him a lot. Though, I'm sure he still need to learn a lot, like Anthony Smith lesson of "do it first, then talk all you want."

Mistah_Q
04-28-2008, 10:20 PM
I want to see Bruce Davis compete at ILB. . he seems well fit to play inside here, and maybe we can send Foote's salary packing (I like Foote, but he makes crazy money. . )

Hypocycloid
04-28-2008, 11:26 PM
NIce article B&GF32 .

Apparently the Steelers saw something in him. Just because I never heard of him before doesn't mean that he will not be good. Maybe the Steelers thought that someone else might have him rated high too and pounced on him. Sure we think it is a reach but the so called Mock Draft Experts are correct less often than the weatherman (wish I had a job I could be right 15 percent of the time and make good money). It is these morons that we read and form our opinions. Some had Justin King and Dan Conner going in the first round, Flacco in the 2nd. Most of these guys promote the big schools, the ones shown on TV more, the flavor of the day, promote themselves by moving people up and down their boards as if they have had a revelation from god, and their favorite conferences. They also believe the mularky that the teams leak to them which are smokescreen. They eat it, gobble it up, and spit it back out. I looked at 194 mock drafts on the web and only 2 had the first 6 picks correct....and the first one was a gimme.

Remember that the Steelers have Scouts already starting on next years draft, attending practices, watching game tape, and talking to coaches. Few of us get to do all those things....and get paid for it. I had the fortune of bumping into a Jets scout while at a bar at Washington State University this past season. These guys live on the road the teams deploy about a dozen on them or more.

We should give the guy a shot. Spaeth wasn't a popular pick either but now that Tuman is gone, Spaeth is absolutely necessary. He also has good hands and catches nothing but touchdown passes. If I recall, people weren't happy about the Lambert pick either.

Lord Stiller
04-28-2008, 11:32 PM
I want to see Bruce Davis compete at ILB. . he seems well fit to play inside here, and maybe we can send Foote's salary packing (I like Foote, but he makes crazy money. . )

keep dreaming

Davis is a pure pass rusher and will play OLB

Timmons is moving inside

get with the program

fansince'76
04-28-2008, 11:40 PM
"It's overwhelming to think about this sometimes, but at the same time this is what I wanted my whole life," he says as he looks at the television. "If the opportunity presents itself and I catch Peyton Manning with his arm still in the air ready to c0ck back and throw, I'm going to unload on him. Same goes for Tom Brady and all those guys.

Oh, no - I wonder how long it will take ESPN to spin this into bulletin board material for you-know-who? :yawn:

Excerpt from next season's Belicheat Steelers/Pats* postgame presser: "We've played against a lot better linebackers than him." :jerkit:

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-28-2008, 11:45 PM
He will be fine........This year he will give Harraison and Woodley breaks throughout the game..........

WizDom-N.KnowLedge
04-29-2008, 12:54 AM
IMO Davis will become a solid defensive player for pittsburgh. He possesses a great motor and knows how to rush the passer. He has an explosive first step and is a pure edge rusher. Time and repitition is all he needs. Cant wait to see him out there.

Tankus_Maximus
04-29-2008, 12:55 AM
anybody who says they're going to unload on the two primadonas of the NFL is automatically my favorite player!

If the kid would've mentioned breaking Carson's other wheel, I would've gone out and bought his jersey that very moment!

Now...who can hook me up with a Bruce Davis banner?

Steelman16
04-29-2008, 01:35 AM
anybody who says they're going to unload on the two primadonas of the NFL is automatically my favorite player!

If the kid would've mentioned breaking Carson's other wheel, I would've gone out and bought his jersey that very moment!

Now...who can hook me up with a Bruce Davis banner?

I like this kid's additude. Even if it's just all talk, hey, I wouldn't mind seeing Fairy Tom lying flat on his back after gettin' busted by a rookie linebacker. :wink02:

Wouldn't y'all? :drink:

He sounds like a good kid, a real Steelers-type player. I'm kinda starting to like this pick...though I'll hold off any real accolades until I see him play.

Hypocycloid
04-29-2008, 02:46 AM
If you go to youtube or to the draft day page when he was drafted, someone posted a youtube video of him, his highlight show his speed and tackling ability, he also calls out the announcers of the football game that he is playing (by name) about not giving UCLA a chance....I wonder if was the USC game. Very funny. We lost that entertainment value when Porter left. I think we got it back.

Hypocycloid
04-29-2008, 02:52 AM
Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5H1oaVRnI&feature=related

Galax Steeler
04-29-2008, 04:31 AM
Bruce Davis sounds like he wants to learn the system and I hope he does from what I've read and seen he could contribute big time.

revefsreleets
04-29-2008, 09:40 AM
I'm thinking Kevin Greene. Not saying that's who he'll become, but he sounds like that type of impact player.

Tankus_Maximus
04-29-2008, 10:36 AM
Great video!!!

Gave me goosebumps!!

Dino 6 Rings
04-29-2008, 01:10 PM
Ok, being a linebacker means you're mean and tough. Being a Steeler Linebacker means you're one of the meanest and toughest. However...

Anger Management for this kid BEFORE he does something stupid.

:rofl:

CanadianSteel
04-29-2008, 01:30 PM
Found this on another board, he acknowledges Steeler nation which is great !!


UCLA standout Davis finally gets call at draft
USC's Booty goes to Minnesota
By Jill Painter, Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 04/27/2008 10:51:26 PM PDT

Bruce Davis was ticked off when he went to bed late Saturday night. He had watched the NFL draft for six hours over two rounds, and his phone never rang.

He was half asleep when the Pittsburgh Steelers called early Sunday morning to tell him he'd been selected in the third round, with the 88th overall pick. Davis, who flourished as a defensive end for the Bruins, will return to his former position of outside linebacker for the Steelers. He couldn't be happier and believes he'll fit in with the Steelers - who won the Super Bowl in 2006 - just fine.

"There's no doubt about that," Davis said. "What do you have to do in Pittsburgh? It's blue-collar work. You work or you play ball. It's the best place to be. Their fans are crazy, ridiculous. A lot of times, there's more Steelers fans at away games than home fans. With my passion and my excitement and love, that's going to be great."

The Bruins had three players selected in the NFL draft after having just one last year. Matthew Slater, who soared on special teams with three kickoff returns for touchdowns, was a surprise fifth-round pick by the New England Patriots. Also, safety Chris Horton nearly became Mr. Irrelevant, the nickname given to the last pick in the draft, when he was the fourth-to-last player selected. He went No. 249 overall to the Washington Redskins.

Davis, the son of former NFL player Bruce Davis Sr., said he met with Steelers Hall of Famer Mean Joe Greene on several occasions, though he didn't know he'd be drafted by Pittsburgh, and was impressed.

Davis said he figured he was a first-day pick.

"Yeah, some of those first-round picks were absurd, to say the least," Davis said. "I think of myself as the best of the best. Hey, I am, let's face it. For whatever reason, I was picked in the third round. I have better stats than anyone at my position over the last two years. It was tough to watch being a two-time All-American and two-time All-(Pacific-10) Conference and not get picked over the guys that got picked. They didn't call my name, and I had to get out of the house. Today it happened early and started my day off the right way."

Davis had 12 sacks last year and 15 1/2 tackles for loss. He had 12 1/2 sacks in 2006.

Pittsburgh has drafted defensive ends from a 4-3 system and converted them to linebackers in a 3-4 system before, and it has seemed to work well. Davis said that was a good sign.

"(Coach Mike Tomlin) said they'll let me stand up first and second down and play linebacker; on third-and-long and passing situations, they'll let me get in my three-point stance and do what I do best," Davis said. "(Tomlin) is an amazing person, and guys love to play for him. Obviously, he loves the game and has energy and passion for the game like I do."

The Patriots listed Slater as a receiver, although he finished his career at UCLA as a safety, not that it mattered since New England surely drafted him for his ability to shine on special teams.

Patriots message boards lit up with questions about Slater as many fans obviously didn't know him at all. New England even traded up to get him in the fifth round.

Slater, who said he was shocked to be drafted in the fifth round, had three kickoff returns for touchdowns in 2007 and 986 yards in kickoff returns. He had an average of 29 yards per return.

"I had heard numerous different reports from different teams, but I wasn't sure," Slater said in a conference call. "I wasn't sure how the draft was going to play itself out, but I'm a strong believer and I have a strong faith so I knew that whatever it was, I was just hoping I would just get an opportunity and things would work out the way they were supposed to. To be drafted and to be drafted by this team - in my opinion the best team in the NFL - it's just humbling, very humbling . I feel very honored."

Horton got a phone call from Redskins owner Dan Snyder telling him that he was joining the team. Horton had already moved back home with his family to New Orleans to prepare for the draft.

There were just three players drafted after Horton on Sunday.

Horton said he didn't give up hope that he'd be one of the remaining selections.

"I was praying and just sitting there waiting," Horton said. "It ain't over til it's over. Everyone else around me was feeling all stressed. I just let it play out."

UCLA safety Dennis Keyes (Birmingham High) agreed to a free-agent deal with Arizona, receiver Brandon Breazell agreed to a two-year free-agent deal with Kansas City, and defensive back Trey Brown agreed to a free-agent deal with the Chicago Bears. Running back Chris Markey was invited to Chicago's mini-camp, and lineman Kevin Brown was invited to Seattle's mini-camp.
http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_9079085

Edman
04-29-2008, 03:00 PM
I knocked the pick earlier, but now I'm not so sure anymore.We really do need LB depth. Harrison is 30, and Farrior is well above it. Foote is about average, nothing more.

Timmons will go inside, Woodley stays outside, and I hope this Davis kid pans out so he can go outside.

I think we're looking at the future of the Steelers LB crew, folks.

SteelFist
04-29-2008, 03:21 PM
Did anyone catch his one-on-one drills against Cherilus during senior bowl week? They both got the best of each other at least once. But on the play Davis won, he drove Cherilus into the QB and then some. Then Davis gave him a couple of pull & jerks at the end prompting Cherilus to get mad and swat Davis' arm down. He was one of the only LB/DE's to give big Cherilus some problems during the 1 on 1's.

steel-EERS
04-29-2008, 06:40 PM
IMO, he is a cross between greg lloyd and joey porter, thicker than Lloyd, not as thick as porter, quicker than joey, but a tick behind Lloyd. and just like both, Bruce talks alot of smack, yep he is a steeler OLB no doubt! When you see him on film he looks like a OLB playing end, once he gets out of the three point stance he looks like a quick LB, runs like one. he will have very little trouble making the transition IMO. I remember seeing the Jackson kid we drafted out of Florida state that was to be moved from End to OLB, I remember watching games of his and thinking he was way to slow to make the move, when I see Bruce Davis I don't think that at all. He is a OLB

VTsteel
04-29-2008, 07:18 PM
More on our fine high energy prospect . . .


Bruce Davis, UCLA, LB, 88th overall to Pittsburgh: One of my favorite college players of the past few years, Davis was the heart and soul of the UCLA defense since he got to Westwood. An All-American defensive end that got labeled with the heinous "tweener" label, he'll move to outside linebacker in Mike Tomlin and Dick LaBeau's 3-4 scheme. I have no doubt that he'll excel in that OLB spot. Though some critics think Davis is more talk than walk, his mouth isn't the only thing with a motor. Steelers fans are going to love this guy.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8086268/On-the-Clock:-15-prospects-for-'09-NFL-Draft

Jeremy
04-29-2008, 07:24 PM
IMO, he is a cross between greg lloyd and joey porter, thicker than Lloyd, not as thick as porter, quicker than joey, but a tick behind Lloyd. and just like both, Bruce talks alot of smack, yep he is a steeler OLB no doubt! When you see him on film he looks like a OLB playing end, once he gets out of the three point stance he looks like a quick LB, runs like one. he will have very little trouble making the transition IMO. I remember seeing the Jackson kid we drafted out of Florida state that was to be moved from End to OLB, I remember watching games of his and thinking he was way to slow to make the move, when I see Bruce Davis I don't think that at all. He is a OLB

Wow......just wow. The kid hasn't even signed a contract and some people are already booking a room for him in Hawaii.

After watching him for the last few years, I'd say he'll be a good pass rusher but not much else. He'll be a nice backup for Woodley and Timmons.

steel-EERS
04-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Wow......just wow. The kid hasn't even signed a contract and some people are already booking a room for him in Hawaii.

After watching him for the last few years, I'd say he'll be a good pass rusher but not much else. He'll be a nice backup for Woodley and Timmons.

Never said he would be a probowler, heck he could blow is acl this week and poof it's over. all I am saying is he has the raw ability and athleticism to be a good OLB. until he plays a year or two no one can say if he will or will not be a good one. But I think I will be right I M O

lilyoder6
04-30-2008, 07:07 PM
i can see davis having a woodly role this yr.. st and coming in 4 a releif.. he could even poss come in 4 keisal on 3rd down passing situations

millwalldavey
04-30-2008, 07:48 PM
I like this kid alot.

stillers4me
04-30-2008, 08:02 PM
Sounds the Steelers just got back their "Peazy 'tude"!

I'm really excited about the next couple of years as these new guys grow into their roles. Lombardi six pack here we come!

tony hipchest
04-30-2008, 08:06 PM
Wow......just wow. The kid hasn't even signed a contract and some people are already booking a room for him in Hawaii.

After watching him for the last few years, I'd say he'll be a good pass rusher but not much else. He'll be a nice backup for Woodley and Timmons.the steelers do have a penchant for developing linebackers and sending them to hawaii.

is the notion really that far fetched?

james harrison was a nice backup too.


in 3 years davis will either be off the team or look like a fine selection. people must remember that steeler linebackers are developed, not picked off trees. as for him being dumb, i think some people with absolutely no scouting or coaching experience watched him struggle for a week at senior bowl practices and immediately developed an opinion they wrote about as gospel. those who should know think he is very smart and grasped the new position fairly quickly (even though he didnt master it in a week- nobody does).

Elvis
04-30-2008, 08:19 PM
Sounds the Steelers just got back their "Peazy 'tude"!

I'm really excited about the next couple of years as these new guys grow into their roles. Lombardi six pack here we come!
:applaudit:Stillers... I love the last coment about the Lombardi Six Pack!!!! That is totally cool buddy..
I didnt really know what to think about the Davis pick until I went to reading some information about the guy and seeing some highlights of him at UCLA. The guy looks very very fast and I am looking forward to this '08 class getting on the field myself.
:tt02:

Jeremy
04-30-2008, 08:49 PM
is the notion really that far fetched?

We'll find out soon enough won't we.

tony hipchest
04-30-2008, 09:08 PM
We'll find out soon enough won't we.

no. it could take 2 or 3 years, just like it did for many other linebackers who traveled through the burgh.

what did it take undrafted free agent james harrison? 3 or 4 years?

anyways....

wmjones
05-13-2008, 06:12 PM
I'm a new member but i played high school football on the same team Bruce Davis and he's a quick learner and a great player. But he is a steal and he's going to do the little things the next couple years but when it comes time for him to be a play-maker he will be mentioned with some of the great 3-4 OLB in the game. He has a nack for the QB and the ball.

stillers4me
05-13-2008, 06:29 PM
I'm a new member but i played high school football on the same team Bruce Davis and he's a quick learner and a great player. But he is a steal and he's going to do the little things the next couple years but when it comes time for him to be a play-maker he will be mentioned with some of the great 3-4 OLB in the game. He has a nack for the QB and the ball.

Welcome to SF! Here's your own Terrible Towel! :tt02:

I love hearing from people that know and have played with our new Steelers! And we've heard some great things this particular draft! Stick around.........it gets lively around here come September!

xXTheSteelKingsXx
05-13-2008, 08:02 PM
I'm a new member but i played high school football on the same team Bruce Davis and he's a quick learner and a great player. But he is a steal and he's going to do the little things the next couple years but when it comes time for him to be a play-maker he will be mentioned with some of the great 3-4 OLB in the game. He has a nack for the QB and the ball.

Welcome wmjones. I hope you're right and Davis turns out to be a Porter type of player.

Steeldude
05-14-2008, 01:54 AM
I want to see Bruce Davis compete at ILB. . he seems well fit to play inside here, and maybe we can send Foote's salary packing (I like Foote, but he makes crazy money. . )

i think timmons is slotted for foote's spot.

IMO, he is a weaker version of porter. the last thing the steelers need is another LB who talks trash and can't back it up after kickoff...ala porter.

Preacher
05-14-2008, 02:48 AM
i think timmons is slotted for foote's spot.

IMO, he is a weaker version of porter. the last thing the steelers need is another LB who talks trash and can't back it up after kickoff...ala porter.

Um... was his skills deterioriating when we let him go? Yeah.

But to say he didn't back it up on the field... well.. hilarious.
Year -----------G T S FF INT
1999PIT16 25


2.0 1 0 0 0
2000PIT16 60


10.5 3 0 1
0 2001PIT15 61


9.0 4 0 0 0 0 2002PIT16 89


9.0 2 0 4 153 0 2003PIT14 66


5.0 1 0 0 0 0 2004PIT15 54


7.0 3 0 1 3 0 2005PIT16 57


10.5 4 0 2 9 0 2006PIT14 55


7.0 0 0 2 49 1

Comare that to Greg Lloyd (tackle stats not avaiable before 2001...
-----------------------------------------------------------SACKS/PD INT
1997 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 12 12 -- -- -- 3.5 -- 0 --




0 1996 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 1 1 -- -- -- 1.0 -- 0 --




-- 1995 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 16 16 -- -- -- 6.5 -- 0 3




-- 1994 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 15 15 -- -- -- 10.0 -- 0 1




-- 1993 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 15 15 -- -- -- 6.0 -- 0 --




-- 1992 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 16 16 -- -- -- 6.5 -- 0 1




1 1991 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 16 16 -- -- -- 8.0 -- 0 1




0 1990 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 15 -- -- -- -- 4.5 -- 0 1




-- 1989 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 16 -- -- -- -- 7.0 -- 0 3




-- 1988 Pittsburgh Steelers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/pittsburghsteelers/profile?team=PIT) 9 -- -- -- -- 0.5 -- 0 --




--
Look at that... Joey had more sacks in a shorter span... AND more passes defended... and JUST AS MANY INTS....

Both as outside Linebackers....

Hmmm... Stats say that Joey was as good as Lloyd.. more sacks, shorter amount of time, more passes defended, and same amount of int's in a shorter period...

But thats right... Joey sucked.
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Wow those number came out ALL messed up... here are the links.

Greg Lloyd... http://www.nfl.com/players/greglloyd/profile?id=LLO498348

Joey Porter http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?playerId=1826

Galax Steeler
05-14-2008, 04:39 AM
I'm a new member but i played high school football on the same team Bruce Davis and he's a quick learner and a great player. But he is a steal and he's going to do the little things the next couple years but when it comes time for him to be a play-maker he will be mentioned with some of the great 3-4 OLB in the game. He has a nack for the QB and the ball.

Welcome to the board we are also hoping Davis comes in and makes the team and contributes down the road.

Steeldude
05-14-2008, 11:08 AM
Um... was his skills deterioriating when we let him go? Yeah.

But to say he didn't back it up on the field... well.. hilarious. Look at that... Joey had more sacks in a shorter span... AND more passes defended... and JUST AS MANY INTS....

Both as outside Linebackers....

Hmmm... Stats say that Joey was as good as Lloyd.. more sacks, shorter amount of time, more passes defended, and same amount of int's in a shorter period...

But thats right... Joey sucked

preacher, porter was more of a product of the blitz system than a good LB. he wasn't a bad LB by any means, but he was nothing more than average, IMO.

want to compare lloyd to porter? ok.

i prefer tackles to sacks, INTs, PD. an area which porter lacked. here are just a few years.

1995 - 117 tackles, 18 stops behind scrimmage, 6 FF

1994 - 91 tackles, 10 sacks, 11 PD, 5 FF

1993 - 111 tackles, 6 sacks, 5 FF, 8 PD

1992 - 96 tackles, 7 sacks, 5 FF

1991 - 76 tackles, 8 sacks, 6 FF

lloyd reached 673 tackles in 8 years at OLB. porter reached 451 tackles in 8 years at OLB.

lloyd in those same 8 years accumulated 51 sacks. porter accumulated 60 sacks. i'll take the 222 extra tackles over the 9 extra sacks in the same time span.

But thats right... Joey sucked

if you say so. i certainly didn't say he sucked.

lloyd in 8 years - 673 tackles, 51 sacks, 34 FF, 10 INTs, 26 PD

porter in 8 years - 451 tackles, 60 sacks, 18 FF, 10 INTs, 42 PD

i was mainly referring to porter's last 3 or so years in pitt. perhaps i should have worded it differently. my mistake.

Dino 6 Rings
05-14-2008, 12:19 PM
Folks, all that matters for the 08 Season is whether or not Davis can TACKLE on Kick Coverage. That's it. The rest is just gravy and pudding pops. (which taste horrible together but I am trying to avoid cursing as much as I usually do)

Preacher
05-14-2008, 12:25 PM
preacher, porter was more of a product of the blitz system than a good LB. he wasn't a bad LB by any means, but he was nothing more than average, IMO.

want to compare lloyd to porter? ok.

i prefer tackles to sacks, INTs, PD. an area which porter lacked. here are just a few years.

1995 - 117 tackles, 18 stops behind scrimmage, 6 FF

1994 - 91 tackles, 10 sacks, 11 PD, 5 FF

1993 - 111 tackles, 6 sacks, 5 FF, 8 PD

1992 - 96 tackles, 7 sacks, 5 FF

1991 - 76 tackles, 8 sacks, 6 FF

lloyd reached 673 tackles in 8 years at OLB. porter reached 451 tackles in 8 years at OLB.

lloyd in those same 8 years accumulated 51 sacks. porter accumulated 60 sacks. i'll take the 222 extra tackles over the 9 extra sacks in the same time span.



if you say so. i certainly didn't say he sucked.

lloyd in 8 years - 673 tackles, 51 sacks, 34 FF, 10 INTs, 26 PD

porter in 8 years - 451 tackles, 60 sacks, 18 FF, 10 INTs, 42 PD

i was mainly referring to porter's last 3 or so years in pitt. perhaps i should have worded it differently. my mistake.

Hey Steedude

Ignore me last night.... I had something stuck in my craw.... not sure what it was... I found myself eing quite pointed...

Steeldude
05-14-2008, 01:20 PM
Hey Steedude

Ignore me last night.... I had something stuck in my craw.... not sure what it was... I found myself eing quite pointed...

preacher, everything is good. i know you are a very knowledgable fan. we are just two diehard steelers' fans discussing what we love most..........THE STEELERS! :smile:

stillers4me
05-14-2008, 01:24 PM
Folks, all that matters for the 08 Season is whether or not Davis can TACKLE on Kick Coverage. That's it. The rest is just gravy and pudding pops. (which taste horrible together but I am trying to avoid cursing as much as I usually do)

Which, incidently, would be a vast improvement over what we started with. I'll take anything and everything he's got.