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revefsreleets
05-01-2008, 02:38 PM
...and I have to say, they have to be considered front-runners for the NC yet again (and I know the hatahs will really hate on that), but hear me out.

They return 8 starters from the offense, and the offensive line looks more athletic to me than it did last year. Beenie Wells is coming off a 1600 yard year, and he was gimpy for half the season. He's definite Heisman candidate material. Boeckman should be improved, and I found it very interesting that Tressel was talking about running a Pony O (two RB's in the same backfield) which makes sense since they need to get Brandon Saine more involved this year. They will also be utilizing play action more, which is such a no-brainer considering the Buckeyes will still be a run-first team. I think the offense will be explosive this year.

On the other side of the ball, look out! The number 1 defense in the country should actually improve. The only significant loss is Vern Gholston, and Lawrence Wilson will be back this year, so expect little drop-off (Wilson can get after the QB, too, but he's a step up against the run). With so much experience in the secondary, they will be comfortable playing more man coverage, which will free up Lauranaitis and Grant to blitz a lot more this year. ST's will be excellent as always.

They'll have some tough games this year, since they play USC in LA, Wisconsin (who many have as NC contenders this year) in Camp Randall (one of the toughest venues in the Country) an ascending Illinois in Champaign, and an early trap game in Columbus vs Troy, but if they win out, no question they'll earn a berth to the big game for an unprecedented third year in a row.

Start cranking up the hate...we love it in Buckeye Country!

lilyoder6
05-01-2008, 03:24 PM
Them having 8 starters from the offense return doesn't rly affect me.. they choked once and they'll choke again... i will say i do like wells and there d somewhat.. but still look at last yr and how crazy the yr was.. we could poss see another decent team like ku or mu get up near the top.. and so far i have heard that there are like 6 teams that could be in the NC... evryone has a chance..

Jeremy
05-01-2008, 04:19 PM
Returning starters is one of the most overrated stats in all of sports.

That being said, if OSU can beat USC in LA they'll be playing for a MNC again this fall.

millwalldavey
05-01-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm a Michigan Die-HArd... but I can recognize... I think they are the favorite. Maybe next year even.

lilyoder6
05-01-2008, 06:52 PM
evryone is a fav... are there going to be 5 champions this yr???

touchdownward
05-01-2008, 11:02 PM
Here is SI's preseason picks.
I also post this as an avid Georgia fan. :wink02:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/stewart_mandel/05/01/spring.rankings/index.html?eref=si_topstories

revefsreleets
05-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Returning starters is one of the most overrated stats in all of sports.

That being said, if OSU can beat USC in LA they'll be playing for a MNC again this fall.
Proposterous ridiculousness yet again. Experienced LB's don't matter? Returning DB's overrated (especially in light of the fact that they will be expected to play more man)? Returning offensive lineman don't benefit from playing together? Another year of starting won't benefit Boeckman? Wells?

It's almost like you just take the contrarian view to mine just to be a complete....ah...I better be careful. Nobody cries louder and longer to the mods than you...

Oh, as far as choking, USC is the king program for choking under Carroll. It could be argued that they choked against Florida (actually, they were just outcoached), but they simply lost to the better team last year. That's not a choke...losing to Stanford at home is a choke.

lilyoder6
05-02-2008, 10:49 AM
but sometimes aplayer shouldn't stay a yr more it could affect them in the draft.. but yes i see where it's good for the unity of line and so fourth.. but still 4 a team who has choked the past 2 NC them returning players doesn't mean anything to me.. except they may make another run but either A: won't get there or B: choke again

Dino 6 Rings
05-02-2008, 02:15 PM
Personally, as a Pitt fan, I think one of the NT contenders will come out of the Big 12 this season. Lots of good QB play down there this year, on Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, its going to be very tough to prevent a Big 12 team from getting in. Oklahoma did get themselve "blacklisted" with 2 huge championship game losses, and I think, Ohio State will be in that boat. You can't keep getting shots without other teams getting into the voters head. If there is 1 undefeated, and it isn't Ohio State, and OSU has one loss, I'd look for a different 1 loss team to get in this season. Just feel that its time of OSU to go to the Rose Bowl and get a Bowl Win again before they are given another title shot.

But that's just me.

revefsreleets
05-02-2008, 03:59 PM
but sometimes aplayer shouldn't stay a yr more it could affect them in the draft.. but yes i see where it's good for the unity of line and so fourth.. but still 4 a team who has choked the past 2 NC them returning players doesn't mean anything to me.. except they may make another run but either A: won't get there or B: choke again

Again, how do you choke if you are actually losing to the better team? They MAY have choked against Florida (but, see...when I tried to say the Buckeyes were the better football team, the SECheads were all in a tizzy...it can't be both ways), but LSU was just the better all-around footbal team last year. It's absurd to think that a Bucks team in a rebuilding year (and they were in a rebuilding year last year) losing a national championship game is a choke.

The Illinois loss was a choke, though.

atlsteelers
05-12-2008, 01:11 PM
I think OSU can go undefeated and still miss out on the National Championship game. A one loss team from the SEC should get more votes than an undefeated big ten school. The big ten has fallen behind the big 12.

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revefsreleets
05-12-2008, 01:28 PM
If the Buckeyes finish undefeated, they will most likely have beaten at least 5 top 25 teams (Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Illinois and USC), perhaps more, and at least 4 of those teams could potentially be top 10 teams when they play (USC will be, Wiscy and Illinois should be and PSU could be). The rumors of the Big Ten's demise are greatly overstated...

atlsteelers
05-13-2008, 10:28 AM
4 teams in the top 10 you gotta be kidding me. You had 3 teams finish in the AP top 25 last year. 1 team in the top ten, 1 team at 18, and one at 24. Thats a great confenrence if i ever saw one. SEC had LSU and UGA finish 1 and 2. The big 12 had 4 teams in the top ten, ACC had 2 teams in the top ten, Big East, PAC, and Big ten had 1 team each. So speaking from stats only the Big ten could be considered the worst confenrence in the BCS. Oh yeah, Ohio State is what 0 and 9 vs the SEC.


1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,620
2. Georgia (3) 11-2 1,515
3. USC (1) 11-2 1,500
4. Missouri 12-2 1,347
5. Ohio State 11-2 1,346
6. West Virginia 11-2 1,342
7. Kansas (1) 12-1 1,303
8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,139
9. Virginia Tech 11-3 1,096
10. Texas 10-3 962
10. Boston College 11-3 962
12. Tennessee 10-4 904
13. Florida 9-4 685
14. Brigham Young 11-2 654
15. Auburn 9-4 648
16. Arizona State 10-3 587
17. Cincinnati 10-3 566
18. Michigan 9-4 508
19. Hawaii 12-1 460
20. Illinois 9-4 443
21. Clemson 9-4 353
22. Texas Tech 9-4 308
23. Oregon 9-4 253
24. Wisconsin 9-4 202
25. Oregon State 9-4 110

lilyoder6
05-13-2008, 11:14 AM
honestly number 4 mu and number 7 Ku had 1 good yr and were actually ranked higher than 20.. so i rly doubt i can call the big 12 the best conf so far.. u only have texas and ou who are a competitor evry yr.. i would say that sec is prob the best conf right now w/ lsu and georgia.. but we have to wait and see

atlsteelers
05-13-2008, 01:45 PM
I give it to the SEC too. Just tired of all the old how great the big 10 talk is. The Big 12is leaps and bounds above the Big 10. I would not sell MU short, espn has the tigers #5 in their 2008 college football ranking and the and texas tech at 12.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?id=3240529

revefsreleets
05-14-2008, 10:31 AM
Last year? What does that have to do with next year? USC and Wisky almost certainly WILL be top 10 teams. Wisconsin is a sleeper NC contender. Illinois is a vastly improved program, and they get leaps and bounds better year to year. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for another Big Ten team to sneak into the top 10, especially since they only need to be top 10 when the Buckeyes beat them to get quality win status.

It is en vogue currently to bag on the Big Ten, but, as I stated, rumors of the conferences demise are greatly overstated....

Oh, as for the 0-9 record, there's a pretty good reason for that. Most of thoise games were played when the Bucks were lower ranked (recent games notwithstanding), and the Buckeyes don't schedule cream puff games against Vandy and the like...fact is, outside Tennessee, the power teams in the SEC refuse to accept home/home games with the Bucks...and they've asked.