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brsteelers
05-05-2008, 03:15 PM
We certainly did very well in terms of athletes in the draft. But what does everyone think of the offensive lineman we did pick up (or decision to not take one early on)? Here's an article on Hills.

Source: http://www.realfootball365.com/index.php/articles/steelers/11118

revefsreleets
05-05-2008, 04:58 PM
My guess is that a guy who played TE is athletic enough to play LT...at least ostensibly. We'll see. One of my favorite things to do in preseason games is just zone in on one player and watch him over the course of 20-25 plays. Hills will definitely be one I watch.

El-Gonzo Jackson
05-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Other TE's that switched at some point to OT include Trai Essex, Robert Gallery, Jason Peters.

I think Hills is a good prospect that has played LT in his career at Texas, which hopefully will translate into him playing LT in the NFL after 2 or 3 seasons playing at RT first.

Not one of the big names a lot around here hoped for, but still a solid pick.....if he can stay healthy like the article says.

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-06-2008, 08:58 AM
Other TE's that switched at some point to OT include Trai Essex, Robert Gallery, Jason Peters.

I think Hills is a good prospect that has played LT in his career at Texas, which hopefully will translate into him playing LT in the NFL after 2 or 3 seasons playing at RT first.

Not one of the big names a lot around here hoped for, but still a solid pick.....if he can stay healthy like the article says.

I was concerned about the history of his leg/knee/foot....but the more that I read on Tony Hill, the more it seems that:
A) Had it not been for concerns about those injuries, Hill would have gone in the 1st or 2nd round.
B) The injury seems to be healed and/or fixed.

I have read two pre-draft articles that said Hill could be a first day talent that becomes a mid-round steal for the team that is willing to take a chance.

Being a complete Homer and an optimist...I'm gonna hang my hat on that until proven wrong.

tony hipchest
05-06-2008, 09:25 AM
I was concerned about the history of his leg/knee/foot....but the more that I read on Tony Hill, the more it seems that:
A) Had it not been for concerns about those injuries, Hill would have gone in the 1st or 2nd round.
B) The injury seems to be healed and/or fixed.

I have read two pre-draft articles that said Hill could be a first day talent that becomes a mid-round steal for the team that is willing to take a chance.

Being a complete Homer and an optimist...I'm gonna hang my hat on that until proven wrong.i said in another thread that gil brandt loves this kid. the monday following the draft pat kirwan and tim ryan stated how they thought it was a great selection. pat seemed convinced we have our future LT.

while many of us were left scratching our heads, they were applauding the steelers selections on their live radio broadcast. (hearing the soundbite of tomlin saying how the war room erupted when mendenhall fell to them was pretty cool too).

i swear, i am never watching the draft with the tv sound on again. the sirius broadcast is so much more informed and without all the fluff. they actually know and talk about the picks as opposed to spending 3 hours on the cowboys wr situation and how pac man jones will not affect their draft.

i cant remember espn or nfl network saying too much about hills other than he was a TE convert who was "injury prone" in HS and college. thanks for the 411 turds.

El-Gonzo Jackson
05-06-2008, 09:54 AM
i said in another thread that gil brandt loves this kid. the monday following the draft pat kirwan and tim ryan stated how they thought it was a great selection. pat seemed convinced we have our future LT.



I'm hoping that Hills can be the LT of the future too, which now begs the question.....who do you offer a contract to be the LT for NOW until Hills is ready(in 2-3 years)?? Starks or Smith??

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-06-2008, 10:07 AM
I'm hoping that Hills can be the LT of the future too, which now begs the question.....who do you offer a contract to be the LT for NOW until Hills is ready(in 2-3 years)?? Starks or Smith??

Wow...great guestion. I think it might be impossible to answer right now and we may have to wait to see how Smith's back and Stark's ability pan out this season.

(...or draft Oher and say buh-bye to both..LOL)

Texasteel
05-06-2008, 11:11 AM
Wow...great guestion. I think it might be impossible to answer right now and we may have to wait to see how Smith's back and Stark's ability pan out this season.

(...or draft Oher and say buh-bye to both..LOL)

Would love Oher, or Andre Smith, but can't see them being available unless we total fall apart next year.

Thats one reason I am going to watch Loadholt, Boone, and Black closely when the collage season starts.

revefsreleets
05-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Other TE's that switched at some point to OT include Trai Essex, Robert Gallery, Jason Peters.



Still some other names of converted TE's:
Joe Thomas
Doug Dieken
Rayfield Wright (HOF)

tony hipchest
05-06-2008, 02:15 PM
i was really taken aback with the panic and almost disdain from some steelerfans over how the 1st 2 rounds of our draft went, and the lack of drafting a lineman.

some totally forgot about hills and suggested we neglected the position altogether.

well the giants just gave dave diehl and extension for 6 years and $31 million which i hope establishes a ceiling for a potential extension with marvel smith. what is funny is that if the steelers drafted a lineman in the 5th round, they wouldve flung feces at their computer or tv screens.

Originally a 5th round (160th pick overall) draft choice by the Giants in 2003.

NFL: Tough, athletic, and versatile offensive lineman has started all 49 regular season and postseason games since he joined the Giants as a 5th-round draft choice in 2003. He is the first Giant since the introduction of the 16-game schedule in 1978 to start all 48 regular season games in his first 3 seasons…Diehl has played right guard, right tackle and left guard in his 3 years with the team…He is one of just four players from the 2003 draft class to start every game in the last three seasons. The others are Carolina tackle Jordan Gross, Jacksonville safety Rashean Mathis and Dallas cornerback Terence Newman…Diehl started 16 games at right guard as a rookie, 16 at right tackle last season and 15 games at left guard and 1 game at right tackle in 2005.

Rhee Rhee
05-07-2008, 06:08 PM
My guess is that a guy who played TE is athletic enough to play LT...at least ostensibly. We'll see. One of my favorite things to do in preseason games is just zone in on one player and watch him over the course of 20-25 plays. Hills will definitely be one I watch.


athleticness is important but then again strength plays an equally important role...

in addition he played TE in highschool which im sorry, is nothing like D1 college football or D2 for that matter...

revefsreleets
05-08-2008, 08:50 AM
Hills was a Parade All-American TE at a class 5-A HS in Texas. It's not like he played for East Podunk Iowa or something.

And, again, I did use the word "ostensibly". If this kid avoids the injury bug, he has the potential to be great.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
05-08-2008, 09:59 AM
I'm hoping that Hills can be the LT of the future too, which now begs the question.....who do you offer a contract to be the LT for NOW until Hills is ready(in 2-3 years)?? Starks or Smith??

Starks............I believe he is going to have a great year this year.......
he has more then six millions reasons to be great

tony hipchest
05-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Hills was a Parade All-American TE at a class 5-A HS in Texas. It's not like he played for East Podunk Iowa or something.

And, again, I did use the word "ostensibly". If this kid avoids the injury bug, he has the potential to be great.kirwan and ryan were just talking about him again on sirius, calling him the steelers best pick of day 2, and saying he has the best chance to push a starter for playing time this year.

i seriously doubt he he could start this year but it is possible he makes the steelers think twice about smith and starks collecting a huge deal after 08.

revefsreleets
05-12-2008, 05:15 PM
kirwan and ryan were just talking about him again on sirius, calling him the steelers best pick of day 2, and saying he has the best chance to push a starter for playing time this year.

i seriously doubt he he could start this year but it is possible he makes the steelers think twice about smith and starks collecting a huge deal after 08.

The kid seems like a student of the game, and he seems to have a record of overachieving and surprising people, so I would not at all be surprised if he does indeed start. But I think it's all contingent upon his health. He's a classic high risk/high reward draft pick.