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Welcome To Smashmouth
05-07-2008, 05:00 PM
If I did my counting right, we have 32 players to release before our official 53-man roster is set and manned for the 2008-9 battle. Sure it's early, but why not give the steelers buffs a chance to submit their perfect roster. As mini camp battles begin to progress the list becomes less and less foggy, but getting it dead-center in early may would be mighty impressive....

Elvis
05-07-2008, 05:15 PM
:noidea:
QB Roethlisberger, Batch and Dixon
RB Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and Russell
FB Davis
WR Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington (Dallas)Baker and Jeremy Bloom
TE Heath Miller, Spaeth and (R) Sherrod
OT M.Smith, M.Starks, Colon, Hills
OG K.Simmons, Kemo and Mahan
C Hartwig

DE A.Smith, B.Keisel
DT C.Hampton and C.Hoke
OLB J.Harrison, Woodley, Farrior, Foote, Fox and Davis(R)
DB I.Taylor, D.Townsend, W.Gay
S Polomalu, Clark and Smith

Elvis
05-07-2008, 05:17 PM
There is 41 of the 53 right off the top of my head that I think has a little better chance than 50/50 come september..
:noidea:

Galax Steeler
05-07-2008, 05:54 PM
:noidea:
QB Roethlisberger, Batch and Dixon
RB Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and Russell
FB Davis
WR Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington (Dallas)Baker and Jeremy Bloom
TE Heath Miller, Spaeth and (R) Sherrod
OT M.Smith, M.Starks, Colon, Hills
OG K.Simmons, Kemo and Mahan
C Hartwig

DE A.Smith, B.Keisel
DT C.Hampton and C.Hoke
OLB J.Harrison, Woodley, Farrior, Foote, Fox and Davis(R)
DB I.Taylor, D.Townsend, W.Gay
S Polomalu, Clark and Smith

You could also add mcfadden and timmons to that list.

stillers4me
05-07-2008, 06:06 PM
Yeah.......definitely Timmons!

JanBr7
05-07-2008, 06:20 PM
This may be obvious, but the 53 man roster also has to include Reed, Warren and Sepulveda, right? And who are the "specialists" on special teams that are likely to make the cut?

I see that you don't think Davenport will make the cut? (neither do I!)

19ward86
05-07-2008, 08:07 PM
You completely missed out on listing MLB completely, its ok though.

NJarhead
05-07-2008, 08:14 PM
So you have 41 plus Timmons, McFadden, Sepulveda and Reed. That's 45 (46 if you count the LS whose name escapes me).

7 spots left.....Hmmm...

Rhee Rhee
05-07-2008, 08:18 PM
im quite sure that mundy has a great oppurtunity to make the roster as a DB since he has experience at both CB and S

essex should be on the list... somewhere... i think at LT most probably...

and stapleton should be on the list for guards/centers..

i almost forgot since ur DE depth was looking low i thought of krischke.. thats all i can think of... im not sure if mcbean was on the team or the practice squad...

ShutDown24
05-07-2008, 10:53 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark

BettisFan
05-07-2008, 11:21 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark
I like the dookie cut and Dixon as #3 and zabransky gone!

Welcome To Smashmouth
05-08-2008, 12:49 AM
:noidea:
QB Roethlisberger, Batch and Dixon
RB Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and Russell
FB Davis
WR Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington (Dallas)Baker and Jeremy Bloom
TE Heath Miller, Spaeth and (R) Sherrod
OT M.Smith, M.Starks, Colon, Hills
OG K.Simmons, Kemo and Mahan
C Hartwig

DE A.Smith, B.Keisel
DT C.Hampton and C.Hoke
OLB J.Harrison, Woodley, Farrior, Foote, Fox and Davis(R)
DB I.Taylor, D.Townsend, W.Gay
S Polomalu, Clark and Smith

Russell over Davenport....really?!?!?!

Galax Steeler
05-08-2008, 04:25 AM
Russell over Davenport....really?!?!?!

I could also see russell over davenport.

DACEB
05-08-2008, 08:49 AM
I could also see russell over davenport.

Absolutely, Moore will take over Dookie's main responsibility of 3rd downs. Dookie has no upside whatsoever, and he proved at the end of last year that he cannot take on an expanded role.

Russell still has upside, and proved to be a valuable STs player when given the oppurtunity. Given the chance, Russell will prove to be a capable backup.

ajs8207
05-08-2008, 09:02 AM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark


Good roster overall. I can't see us keeping 10 offensive linemen and 6 receivers. Something has to give in either if not both of those positions. I expect there to be a fourth safety on the team, with the injury troubles of Troy and Clark, and the incompetance of Anthony Smith. Mundy or Carter should make the team at the expense of a 10th defensive lineman or a 6th receiver.

ShutDown24
05-08-2008, 09:18 AM
Good roster overall. I can't see us keeping 10 offensive linemen and 6 receivers. Something has to give in either if not both of those positions. I expect there to be a fourth safety on the team, with the injury troubles of Troy and Clark, and the incompetance of Anthony Smith. Mundy or Carter should make the team at the expense of a 10th defensive lineman or a 6th receiver.

Yeah, I knew that was a problem but I didn't really want to get rid of anyone I had on the roster. I had Mundy on the team, then realized that was 54 lol. Probably Hills/Bloom/Baker lose a spot for him I think. Depends on how kick returning works out in my opinion.

DACEB
05-08-2008, 09:56 AM
Hills, McBean and possibly Dixon could be put on IR at the beginning of the season. They would not be allowed to practice with the team, but can work out at the facility and are allowed in the classroom (film, meetings, etc.). This would allow for those roster spots to be filled by someone else, while they sit out the first six games. They would also be protected, as they are not on the practice squad. I really think the team should take advantage of this.

BettisFan
05-08-2008, 10:55 AM
Russell over Davenport....really?!?!?!

yea man dookie is done

Dino 6 Rings
05-08-2008, 12:21 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark


Very good breakdown. Now, show me the starting Kick off coverage team so I can determine the tackling skills of each player :tt:

steelreserve
05-08-2008, 12:43 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox


Most of the guys in red are excellent candidates for the practice squad. There's no way we carry 6 WRs and 5 OTs. Plus if we do end up signing a guy on the defensive line, that'll bump one more guy out.

Much as we've all liked Russell, I don't know if anyone actually needs 5 running backs unless there's some catastrophic bout of injuries. He'll be lucky to play a meaningful down all season, or next. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it either.

DACEB
05-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Fox and Eason are not eligible for the practice squad, because they've been on the (an) active roster. Players are also not protected on the practice squad.

For a team that wants to pound the ball on the ground, I don't think 4 RBs and 1FB/HB is excessive. Both Russell and Davis were STs standouts in the preseason. Davis continued that role throughout the season, while Russell never dressed again for a game until late in the season.

43Hitman
05-08-2008, 02:58 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark


Nice roster overall. I would put Baker on the practice squad, cut Bloom and replace him with Reid, provided he can show us something.

43Hitman
05-08-2008, 03:01 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark


Nice roster overall. I would put Baker on the practice squad, cut Bloom and replace him with Reid, provided he can show us something.



Mods please delete duplicate post. My browser crapped out on me a for a min.

steelreserve
05-08-2008, 04:23 PM
Fox and Eason are not eligible for the practice squad, because they've been on the (an) active roster. Players are also not protected on the practice squad.

Well, then I'd say they're excellent candidates to be cut, unless they can help out on special teams. Same goes for the others.

I have nothing against any of them if there's a legitimate way they can contribute on the field. But if they're just going to sit there and Duce a roster spot (I still want know know who came up with that), why should we bother keeping them? I'd rather have a guy who makes 1 tackle a month on special teams than Russell if he doesn't play at all.

Preacher
05-08-2008, 04:24 PM
Fox and Eason are not eligible for the practice squad, because they've been on the (an) active roster. Players are also not protected on the practice squad.

For a team that wants to pound the ball on the ground, I don't think 4 RBs and 1FB/HB is excessive. Both Russell and Davis were STs standouts in the preseason. Davis continued that role throughout the season, while Russell never dressed again for a game until late in the season.

However, we picked up another WR, and a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield...

We will still run the ball, but I don't "Hey diddle diddle, Mendenhall up the middle" will be heard in Pittsburgh anytime soon.

JanBr7
05-08-2008, 08:19 PM
However, we picked up another WR, and a RB that can catch the ball out of the backfield...

We will still run the ball, but I don't "Hey diddle diddle, Mendenhall up the middle" will be heard in Pittsburgh anytime soon.

Well, "Hey diddle diddle diddle" isn't really Pittsburgh style, is it?:laughing:

Welcome To Smashmouth
05-08-2008, 08:42 PM
Most of the guys in red are excellent candidates for the practice squad. There's no way we carry 6 WRs and 5 OTs. Plus if we do end up signing a guy on the defensive line, that'll bump one more guy out.

Much as we've all liked Russell, I don't know if anyone actually needs 5 running backs unless there's some catastrophic bout of injuries. He'll be lucky to play a meaningful down all season, or next. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it either.

If your trying to tell me our 4th round pick (and only lineman drafted) is only a practice squad guy, I'm left asking myself "What's the point??"

I'm just really pulling for Dennix Dixon to make this team. It seems like every young, black, mobile QB I'm a fan of ends up getting me all hype when I see he finds his way onto the Steelers, and then never gets a proper opportunity to deliver for the team. (a' la Tee Martin and Omar Jacobs). If I'm the Offensive Coordinator of this team, I'm licking my chops at the possibilities this young talent gives us.

KEEP HIM!! (you won't regret it)

Preacher
05-08-2008, 08:58 PM
Well, "Hey diddle diddle diddle" isn't really Pittsburgh style, is it?:laughing:


Actually... yep, it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran_Rogel

Though wikipedia has it wrong.

It was actually a chant of frustration that the Steelers would begin EVERY GAME with Rogel going up the middle, and then continue to do so through out the game.

Finally, (I believe it was AR himself), came down to the coach and told him that "You WILL throw the ball on the first play from scrimmage this game." the coach pulled aside a OL player and told him to go offsides on that play. The coach said something to the effect of, "If the play works, he will think he can dictate plays to me all day."

So the first play was a pass, it went for a touchdown because it caught the other team SO off guard. But the OL was offsides so it was negated.

The very next play? "Hey diddle diddle, Rogel up the middle."

It didn't go for a touchdown.

Steel Buckeye
05-10-2008, 12:26 AM
Willie Reid-can't hold onto the ball during a punt return. Useless.

Sean Mahan-sucks at center and allows way too many sacks. Good riddance.

Dan Kreider-one of my favorite players is sadly released because he has not been used much and is on the wrong side of 30. This is one I will miss. I'm just glad he got a ring.

Travis Kirshke-lack of depth at DE might save him but he is way too old. Time to hang it up.

Haiku_Dirtt
05-10-2008, 05:16 AM
I see that you don't think Davenport will make the cut? (neither do I!)

The first bellweather sign. By keeping Davenport what more do we need to know about Rashard other than he was wise enough not to trade a wallet with a Chicago punk for a future to be a star for the Steelers.

And if reports are true it sounded like he was ready to add a few tonnes of gold, corn and soybeans into the heist as a way to ensure his future as a Steeler. THAT is a guy who should be given any duty if not more duties.

DACEB
05-10-2008, 06:22 AM
Some tidbits from Jim Wexell on minicamp;

http://www.tribune-democrat.com/prosports/local_story_127235910.html

On 3rd round pick Davis;

The Steelers say third-round pick Bruce Davis could move inside, but I re-watched the Senior Bowl and his run-stopping instincts in the middle are non-existent. His speed, though, is nothing like the 4.8 he registered with scouts. He told me he was running uphill – up the UCLA field crown – when he was timed. After watching the tape again, I believe him. He’s too quick, and it showed on special teams. He was routinely the first player down the field to cover Senior Bowl kicks.

On Dookie and Russell;

I see the last backfield spot being contested by Najeh Davenport and Gary Russell. Davenport worked at fullback this weekend, so he has an edge in versatility. But Russell is still only 21 years old and has added 10 solid pounds. He put one slick move on a linebacker in the open field that’s stuck in my memory banks. I wouldn’t cut him. No chance.

Listening to this qoute sounds like it might be tough for a return specialist to make the team. Maybe there's too much talent (and height) to pass on at the WR position on the roster.

Jeremy Bloom, Willie Reid and Santonio Holmes worked as punt returners Friday afternoon. Mewelde Moore, expected by the media to take on that role, wasn’t used. I asked Santonio if there was talk he’d return punts this season. “We’ve been talking about it,” Holmes said. “If push comes to shove and we have to get rid of some guys, I should be able to fit in.” That tells me Reid is sitting on the bubble with both cheeks.

Could be very interesting trimming this roster.

Steel Buckeye
05-11-2008, 12:57 AM
Sean Mahan needs to be removed entirely from Pittsburgh's front. He is one of the worst centers I have ever seen. I wanted Willie Colon to be cut last year. Colon sucked at RT but he was playing out of position, I think he deserves a shot at backup guard, so I wouldn't cut him just yet. With the Sweed pick and his inability to hold onto the ball during returns, I'm willing to bet Willie Reid will be cut.

ace man 21
05-11-2008, 11:33 AM
:noidea:
QB Roethlisberger, Batch and Dixon
RB Parker, Mendenhall, Moore and Russell
FB Davis
WR Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington (Dallas)Baker and Jeremy Bloom
TE Heath Miller, Spaeth and (R) Sherrod
OT M.Smith, M.Starks, Colon, Hills
OG K.Simmons, Kemo and Mahan
C Hartwig

DE A.Smith, B.Keisel
DT C.Hampton and C.Hoke
OLB J.Harrison, Woodley, Farrior, Foote, Fox and Davis(R)
DB I.Taylor, D.Townsend, W.Gay
S Polomalu, Clark and Smith

i am going with u

FSUBoo
05-14-2008, 01:32 PM
I also would think about giving Dorien Bryant a chance at returning kicks and punts, because he was explosive in that role at Purdue.

Welcome To Smashmouth
05-14-2008, 01:38 PM
^ Was he not the one we signed then had to let go because of a failed physical?

stillers4me
05-14-2008, 01:41 PM
^ Was he not the one we signed then had to let go because of a failed physical?

Bryant failed his physical. He turned in his Terrible Towel and left the building.

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-14-2008, 02:15 PM
If I were in charge, here is what the team looks like:

K - Reed

P - Sepulveda

LS - Warren

QB - Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

RB - Parker, Mendenhall, Moore, Russell

FB - Davis

WR - Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Bloom, Baker

TE - Miller, Spaeth, Sherrod

OT - Smith, Starks, Colon, Essex, Hills

G - Simmons, Kemoeatu, Mahan

C - Hartwig, Stapleton

DT - Hampton, Hoke

DE - Keisel, Smith, (two out of these three): Eason/Kirschke/McBean

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Davis, Harrison

MLB - Farrior, Foote, Timmons, Humpal, Fox

CB - Taylor, Townsend, McFadden, Gay, Madison

S - Polamalu, Smith, Clark



Quarterback :Roethlisberger, Batch, Dixon

Running Back: Parker, Mendenhall, Russell, Moore, Carey Davis (FB)

Wide Receiver: Ward, Holmes, Sweed, Washington, Rucker

Tight End : Miller, Spaeth, Dekker

Offensive Linemen : Starks, Colon, Mahan, Simmons, Hartwig, Essex, Kemoeatu, Smith, Legursky

Defensive Linemen : Hampton, Keisel, Smith, Hoke, McBean, McFarland (fingers crossed), Clement

Linebacker : Farrior, Woodley, Timmons, Foote, Harrison, Humpal, Fox, Davis

Defensive Back :Taylor, McFadden, Gay, Townsend, Polamalu, Clark, Smith, Carter, Mundy,

Specialist: LS Greg Warren, K Jeff Reed, P Daniel Sepulveda, RS Williams

lilyoder6
05-15-2008, 10:44 AM
i could see the steelers keep 6 wr's since we are more of a passing team than b4.. i can see a lb poss being cut and maybe carter.. but i guess we have to wait till pre-season

steelreserve
05-15-2008, 02:05 PM
Out of Bloom, Reid and Washington, I'd be amazed if at least one of them isn't cut.

Probably Reid, because we have a lot of guys who are definitely better at both positions he plays.