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BlitzburghRockCity
11-10-2005, 10:51 PM
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1282&dept_id=182120&newsid=15552241&PAG=461&rfi=9

Liking the Pittsburgh Steelers has never been so easy.

The landscape of professional sports continues to unravel down an unsavory path, with the likes of Terrell Owens dominating headlines.


Over the past 30 years, there have been few entities more stable than the Steelers, and despite the occasional criticism for being too old-fashioned, it's refreshing to have a franchise known simply for playing football.

A mere look at the sports section this week indicates a frightening trend.

* The Owens Saga came to a pathetic but predictable head in Philadelphia.

* Phillies pitcher Ugueth Urbina was charged with attempted murder after allegedly attacking someone with a machete after dousing them with gasoline.

* Two Carolina Panthers cheerleaders were arrested for having sex in a public bathroom and then instigating a fight with their accuser.

* Six football players at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga were charged with the gang rape of a student.

Not a pretty picture. There are more athletes getting arrested or kicked off teams than there are good stories out there.

Through it all, an organization like the Steelers deserves credit.

There is a reason why things like what the Eagles are going through with Owens don't happen in Pittsburgh. The Rooneys won't allow a player like Owens to play for their team.

The Eagles are being praised for the handling of Owens over the past week. And yes, they did the right thing by suspending him indefinitely following his most recent outburst. But I'm more interested in the past 18 months.

Philadelphia knew this was going to happen. It was inevitable. Yet the Eagles sold their soul to win the Super Bowl last year with Owens, and they almost made that dream come true before falling short to the Patriots.

It might be frustrating for some fans that the Steelers never sell out to win that elusive fifth Super Bowl, but really, it's an increasingly admirable trait.

When the Steelers do win that fifth Super Bowl - and given the general expertise of the organization, it will happen someday - it should be particularly rewarding for fans who realize their team does things the right way.

A good example of the Steelers sticking to their character came in 1995. Considered by many a Super Bowl team, the Steelers lost star Rod Woodson to a devastating injury on opening weekend.

The Steelers could have used a talented cornerback to replace Woodson, and the agents of Deion Sanders contacted the Rooneys.

No thank you, they said.

Dan Rooney went on to say the Steelers run a football team, not a circus.

Amen.

Sanders and the Dallas Cowboys would go on to beat the Steelers in Super Bowl XXX four months later, but there are more important things than losing a football game.

Vince Lombardi once said, "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

Perhaps when he was coaching the Packers 40 years ago, this was true. But times have changed.

Lombardi didn't have to deal with the business aspect of the NFL and coached players who literally were afraid of him.

He would have put up with Owens for approximately 2.4 seconds.

Of course, Eagles coach Andy Reid probably didn't want to deal with Owens either, but the Philadelphia organization got greedy and left him no choice.

Even the Patriots, the two-time defending champions known for their classy organization, took a chance by trading for running back Corey Dillon two years ago.

The Patriots needed to upgrade their running game so they traded for a twice-convicted felon known as a cancer in the locker room.

The Steelers don't do business that way, and more power to them. Maybe they limit themselves by having such high off-the-field standards, but that's OK.

At the end of the day, their fans can proudly support the team knowing there are decent people inside the helmets.

Most cities aren't so lucky.

AKSteeler
11-10-2005, 11:09 PM
That is why I have fallen in love with the Steelers. They are a class act organization, stable, and loyal. I love the fact that Cowher has been there so long. I love the story of Art Rooney. I love the fact that we don't have cheerleaders. It's a team that I am proud to say I am a fan of. :thmbup:

OX1947
11-11-2005, 12:22 AM
I would still take Randy Moss right now. Randy Moss with a Healthy Big Ben would seal the title for us....

Prosdo
11-11-2005, 01:07 AM
Good article. I must say you rarely hear about a Pittsburgh Steelers player getting introuble. Glad it's that way. They represent our city well. Cheers to the Rooneys for running such a classy organization.

Suitanim
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM
I love it...and it represents us old school fans well.

I just HAD to post this over at one of those Browns Boards...

hmmmmmmmm
11-11-2005, 12:47 PM
I just had to comment on some of the stupid shit in this article....it was a must.




"When the Steelers do win that fifth Super Bowl - and given the general expertise of the organization, it will happen someday - it should be particularly rewarding for fans who realize their team does things the right way."


What the hell does he mean by doing it the right way? So because other teams pick of players in free agency that will make their team better its wrong? Just seems stupid to say do it the right way there really is no wrong way.




"Sanders and the Dallas Cowboys would go on to beat the Steelers in Super Bowl XXX four months later, but there are more important things than losing a football game.

Vince Lombardi once said, "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing."

Perhaps when he was coaching the Packers 40 years ago, this was true. But times have changed.

Lombardi didn't have to deal with the business aspect of the NFL and coached players who literally were afraid of him."



I bet thats what the owners were sayin when the Cowboys laid it down on em "Well at least we didnt have Deion screwing stuff up for us". You play to win no one wants to lose. This game is about winning. No one smiles with a loss and runs around thanking God they dont have players that will help them win.





"He would have put up with Owens for approximately 2.4 seconds.

Of course, Eagles coach Andy Reid probably didn't want to deal with Owens either, but the Philadelphia organization got greedy and left him no choice."


I dont understand this either. So by this guys standards anyone who picked up Owens sold out and has a shitty organization? Owens shoulda retired after the 49ers? I dont see the Eagles as selling out they didnt need him sure but they didnt have a big play WR which they needed.





"Even the Patriots, the two-time defending champions known for their classy organization, took a chance by trading for running back Corey Dillon two years ago.

The Patriots needed to upgrade their running game so they traded for a twice-convicted felon known as a cancer in the locker room."



Well is he a cancer in the Patriots locker room? Now would be the time youd usually here about someone who is a "cancer" bitching. I havent heard anything about him complaining or really causing a distraction. I guess he shoulda just retired with Owens.




"The Steelers don't do business that way, and more power to them. Maybe they limit themselves by having such high off-the-field standards, but that's OK.

At the end of the day, their fans can proudly support the team knowing there are decent people inside the helmets."



So by not doing what it takes to get a superbowl but keeping your team "clean" of media mongers you should be happy? I seriously dont get it.... this game is about winning and winning is the game. My team has one person who talks to the media and says alot of ignorant stuff but by no means is he a "bad person" so I guess my team sold out.

Koopa
11-11-2005, 12:53 PM
your boy jerry jones should've "sold out" and drafted randy moss

hmmmmmmmm
11-11-2005, 01:55 PM
No no no we got better things to do then win. Winning is bad didnt you read that shit

Suitanim
11-11-2005, 05:18 PM
Just to clarify that we are all on the same page here...the article is clearly stating that character counts and winning with class and dignity is superior to winning at any cost. Are you taking the opposite position? Winning, at any cost, is all that matters?

hmmmmmmmm
11-11-2005, 05:58 PM
Just to clarify that we are all on the same page here...the article is clearly stating that character counts and winning with class and dignity is superior to winning at any cost. Are you taking the opposite position? Winning, at any cost, is all that matters?




No im not but it all depends on what you think is a good character. If you get people around the media enough everyone is gonna eventually say sumthin stupid. I dont think Dillon or Deion were that bad. This man basically said organizations dropped down a couple of levels just for picking these guys up. Deion wasnt a problem when he was at Dallas but he loved media attention and how does that hurt a team or organization? He wasnt a problem in the locker room and if anything he took media pressure off of everyone else. Dillon I can see somewhat because he became a problem towards the end in Cincy but hes doing good as a Patriot. To me it was just a stupid article that said because organizations didnt pick up some players they automatically have more dignity and class then any other even if the player picked up wasnt that bad. I can agree though if they pick up a player they know will hurt the team and be a huge distraction just to win. This isnt the case for most teams though and by this no player should be given a chance after making a mistake unless the organization wants to be considered a classless organization with no dignity.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-11-2005, 06:20 PM
I think its based basically on the fact that some organizations just wont take that chance on players w/ questionable backgrounds becuz of the chance of getting bit in the ass if it doesnt work out.

There are exceptions to the rule, obviously, but the Steelers play it safe, and we've had some pretty darn good players over the years who dont have alot of baggage.

Suitanim
11-11-2005, 06:45 PM
Overall, they are pretty much right on...how many times have the Steelers picked up a poisonous player? And, when they did make a mistake, how long did those players usually last. Think Bam Morris or Tim Worley. The Steelers know how to pick quality players, and, when they screw up, they know how to cut and run...

They also managed to win all through the new FA era without losing their credibility or character.

SteelCityMan786
11-11-2005, 08:54 PM
The Steelers Run The Classiest Organization the NFL. I don't recall any of our boys getting arrested for some dumb ass act. and I am extremely Proud To Be A Fan:sign01:

BlitzburghRockCity
11-12-2005, 10:34 AM
Overall, they are pretty much right on...how many times have the Steelers picked up a poisonous player? And, when they did make a mistake, how long did those players usually last. Think Bam Morris or Tim Worley. The Steelers know how to pick quality players, and, when they screw up, they know how to cut and run...

They also managed to win all through the new FA era without losing their credibility or character.


Even back in the 90s when we were losing FA's quicker than a 5.00 hooker runs outta condoms on a saturday nite... we still managed to stay our ground, be competitive and not compromise.

Livinginthe past
11-12-2005, 11:33 AM
I guess this article was written with Steelers fans very much in mind - although I have long been a fan of the way the Steelers run their organisation.

I think its fair to say, and I have mentioned this in the past, that the Patriots have modelled themselves on the Steelers philosophically.

What has been the main difference over the last few years as regards SB wins has been down to two things - having the most tactically astute coach in football - and also having the best QB in football.

There was alot of talk about the nature of Corey Dillons move - 'just wait til we start losing' was all we heard - well we have suffered enough losses this season and there has not been a negative peep from the man Dillon - he has been a warrior coming out and playing injured for us.

Maybe I am a perfectionist - but its not enough to just win - you have to win right.

NM

BlitzburghRockCity
11-12-2005, 11:42 AM
I agree, the Pats generally run the team as good as anybody if not better. BB is an excellent judge of players that fit his system !!

I agree though, the difference in SB runs has been coaching. BB will devise a game plan on offense the exploit the weakness of the opposing defense.

The steelers generally dance w/ what brought em there..sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. If there is 1 knock on cowher, that would be it..need more game planning in the big games . There is something to be said for doing it both ways, but I think if BC would just implement alittle something different, it might put us over the hump.

I love BC and the way he coaches and I wouldnt trade him for any coach in the league, period..but pasts' point is well taken.

I.C. Lights
11-12-2005, 09:24 PM
What has been the main difference over the last few years as regards SB wins has been down to two things - having the most tactically astute coach in football - and also having the best QB in football.

There was alot of talk about the nature of Corey Dillons move - 'just wait til we start losing' was all we heard - well we have suffered enough losses this season and there has not been a negative peep from the man Dillon - he has been a warrior coming out and playing injured for us.
NM


I think a lot of the Patriots' success is also due to Charlie Weis - maybe even more than BB. But yeah, the Pat's coaching has definitely been an advantage - and Brady goes without saying. A good coach also knows how to make a player shape-up too. The Pats have accomplished that with Corey Dillon.

I.C. Lights
11-12-2005, 09:29 PM
I agree, the Pats generally run the team as good as anybody if not better. BB is an excellent judge of players that fit his system !!

I agree though, the difference in SB runs has been coaching. BB will devise a game plan on offense the exploit the weakness of the opposing defense.

The steelers generally dance w/ what brought em there..sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. If there is 1 knock on cowher, that would be it..need more game planning in the big games . There is something to be said for doing it both ways, but I think if BC would just implement alittle something different, it might put us over the hump.

I love BC and the way he coaches and I wouldnt trade him for any coach in the league, period..but pasts' point is well taken.


Yeah Belichick is a great coach, but he's a littly too smarmy for Pittsburgh. I think Cowher better suits us, for better or worse.