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I-Want-Troy's-Hair
05-21-2008, 10:09 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-nflcba052008&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Easy way out

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports May 20, 4:28 pm EDT

ATLANTA – Owners don’t want to pay the players. Players don’t want to take less money. Fans don’t want to pay more money to either side, period.

While the three most important factions in the business of the NFL tend to be at odds, one thing they can all agree on may eventually lead to a solution to long-term labor problems.

They all hate the exhibition season. By shortening that part of the schedule and lengthening the regular season, the NFL is considering a solution to its upcoming negotiations with the NFL Players Association over an extension of the collective bargaining agreement.

The CBA and the related economics of the game reared their ugly mug Tuesday morning, when the 32 owners voted unanimously to opt out of the agreement. The decision leaves only three years remaining on the CBA, including the final uncapped 2010 season.

What goes with the opt out is the potential for a lockout of the players in 2011 and all sorts of difficult rules regarding free agency (players must wait six years to qualify for free agency and each team gets the option of using two franchise player designations) in an uncapped year.

It’s a dizzying array of rules that leave most fans tearing off their favorite team jersey and screaming, “I just want to watch some football.” Or, in the worst world, anxiously asking, “Who do I take with the No. 1 pick in the fantasy football replacement draft?”

Enter the idea of a 17th game, which could be an aid to everyone concerned, particularly all the people who tire of the tedium of games that don’t count. Count Denver owner Pat Bowlen in that group.

“I’ll put it to you this way, I think that the preseason is too long,” Bowlen said, echoing a nearly unanimous feeling in and around the NFL. “Four games is too many. Whether that works as a solution to our labor issues, I don’t know. But it is too long.”

The NFL agrees with that point and Commissioner Roger Goodell said such a concept could be part of the solution.

“We actually are looking at that as one alternative,” Goodell said. “We are going to report to the ownership today on our preseason, and what we can do to improve the quality of our preseason. We think that they may impact on some of the things we want to talk to the players about, so that’s on the table.”

While NFL teams already require season ticket holders to purchase tickets for exhibition games, adding a 17th game to the schedule would increase the potential for television revenue because the league would have more games to sell.

“Well, it would create new revenue. The thought process was that we might reduce the preseason by a game in return for that,” Goodell said. “Actually the players will still play the same number of games, but it may give us the opportunity to put higher quality football out there. We are not satisfied with the quality of the preseason right now. We’d like to improve on that.”

The catch in that statement is that the NFL Players Association would want its share of the added revenue. Theoretically, that shouldn’t be a problem, although NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw wondered aloud during a conference call about that subject.

“In any discussion we’ve had about playing another game … they don’t want to pay for it. We’re not going to agree to play extra games and not get paid for it,” Upshaw said.

Playing an extra game adds injury risk to a game already fraught with physical attrition. Goodell said the league would also entertain the idea of expanding rosters to deal with the added injuries.

Still, anything that adds revenue, increases player salaries and adds entertainment value is likely to be welcome to everyone involved. Particularly when the alternative is labor strife.

“This is something that could help avert that, so that’s one of the advantages of playing an extra game,” Pittsburgh owner Dan Rooney said. The only substantial downside to Rooney is that a 17-game schedule would bring an imbalance to the home-away schedule.

“From a competitive standpoint, we have a perfect situation right now,” Rooney said. Goodell said the issue could be addressed by alternating the home-away assignment of the game every year by conference.

But the most important element of an extra game is the potential for goodwill and more revenue at a time when the NFL risks alienating fans with stories about economic and labor issues.

“Fans don’t want to hear about the problems of a bunch of people who are either wealthy or rich,” one league source said. “This news isn’t good for any of us. You can’t avoid it, but it’s about a bunch of stuff that makes the everyday fan really angry, especially in this economy.”

Worse is that this situation figures to carry on for two years. Upshaw said he believes the deadline to get an extension completed is March 2010, before the beginning of free agency and before the uncapped year is supposed to kick in.

Both Upshaw and Goodell agreed that deadlines are usually the only time when real action takes place. In short, that could mean two years of fans hearing about labor doom, lockouts and other annoying subjects.

By contrast, those fans could be talking about the impact of a 17th game on the regular season.

No doubt, that would be far more interesting.

Godfather
05-21-2008, 11:20 PM
A 17th game wouldn't unbalance the schedule. They could give everyone one overseas game instead of a "home" game in London or Mexico City.

SteelersMongol
05-21-2008, 11:20 PM
If they're worried it would imbalance the home-away schedule that much, why can't they just make it 18 game season? There is not a whole lot of difference between 17 or 18 games season, IMHO.

SteelersMongol
05-21-2008, 11:21 PM
A 17th game wouldn't unbalance the schedule. They could give everyone one overseas game instead of a "home" game in London or Mexico City.

What about Tokyo, Seoul, or Beijing? :wink02:

Galax Steeler
05-22-2008, 04:47 AM
The more games the better for me I would like to see them add one or two.

Dino 6 Rings
05-22-2008, 10:44 AM
They don't need to add a game in my opinion, the season is perfect right now. If anything, add 2 teams per conference to the Post Season and eliminate the Bi-week.

steelreserve
05-22-2008, 12:37 PM
They don't really HAVE to do this, but I guess I wouldn't mind if it avoided a strike.

Still, between extra games and steroids, it won't be long before someone runs for 60 touchdowns in a season. They'll make a mockery of some of the old records.

stlrtruck
05-22-2008, 12:48 PM
They'll make a mockery of some of the old records.

What's it matter, they've already started to make a mockery of the league with the current round of BS

steelreserve
05-22-2008, 01:23 PM
What's it matter, they've already started to make a mockery of the league with the current round of BS

Good point. And at the present rate, tackling the running back will be a 15-yard personal foul by 2011 anyway.

Dino 6 Rings
05-22-2008, 01:54 PM
I don't know, things come in cycles, they've been making it unfair the past few years for the offense, the 5 yard no contact rule, (should be 10) and the way the protect the QB these days, it favors the offense. But now with the "force out" rule going out the window, D-backs can lay the smack down on receivers at the sidelines in the hopes of making it an incomplete pass. And now the defense gets a headset too, it all comes around. Plus the modern rules didn't help the QB of the losing team in the most recent Superbowl...who was the losing team again? For the life of me I can't remember who loses the Superbowl...just the winner...

Giants won, I know that...Colts won the Year before, and then the Steelers before that....but who lost? Can't remember...oh well, they must not have been a memorable team for me to have forgotten already.

Dino 6 Rings
05-22-2008, 01:58 PM
Oh wait, the Colts beat the Bears...that's right. That Hester Kid for the Bears returned the opening Kick Off for a TD, first time that ever happened. I remember that...but I still can't remember one positive memorable play for the losing team of this last Superbowl. I remember Eli Manning made some ridiculous play and some kid on the Giants made the most retarded catch I've ever seen....but the name escapes me of who they beat...

HughC
05-24-2008, 01:51 PM
Besides the question of where the 17th game would be played (16 neutral site games?), the balance of the schedule is screwed up. Who would that 17th game be against? Plus there are so many players out with injuries now, why add another game that results in playoffs being decided by who has the least injured team?

HughC
05-24-2008, 01:52 PM
The fans would rather see more real games and less pre-season games, but those exhibition games are very profitable for the NFL. Season ticket holders have to buy those tickets, and for other fans it's the only chance to get to see a game for a team that always sells out. Adding another game would result in the player's wanting more money for the extra game.

lilyoder6
05-24-2008, 03:00 PM
but then u would have to pay the players more money since they are playing 1 extra season game

SteelCityMan786
05-24-2008, 03:52 PM
If they add one more game, choose a neutral site and let teams choose it.

Example: Steelers would play the Eagles at Beaver Stadium. Have both teams get a share of the ticket revenues.

The Patriot
05-24-2008, 03:54 PM
No more games. The more you add the less important they become.

lilyoder6
05-24-2008, 11:37 PM
i would think that the pats would love an extra game b/c that would mean they would be able to cheat some more

The Patriot
05-25-2008, 12:17 AM
i would think that the pats would love an extra game b/c that would mean they would be able to cheat some more

wow

Aussie_steeler
05-25-2008, 12:25 AM
No more games. The more you add the less important they become.

So your saying that the 19th game was less important than the 18th last season????

Galax Steeler
05-25-2008, 08:12 AM
No more games. The more you add the less important they become.

I don't see how one more game is going to be less improtant seems like they would be the same.

lilyoder6
05-25-2008, 10:45 AM
So your saying that the 19th game was less important than the 18th last season????

of course b/c they choked in the 19th game so they don't care about it right now

Elvis
05-25-2008, 01:59 PM
Adding a 17th game would be stupid in my opinion. I do agree that they dont need so many pre-season games though.
:wink02:

millwalldavey
05-25-2008, 06:59 PM
17 games could eliminate a lot of ties in divisional play...

millwalldavey
05-25-2008, 07:00 PM
of course b/c they choked in the 19th game so they don't care about it right now

LOL... "it dont mean a thing, if you aint got that ring!"