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CantStop85
06-26-2008, 09:22 AM
1. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: Can he do any more than he did last season? The scary thing for the rest of the league is, yes he can.

2. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: Even Manning's down seasons are sensational. If Marvin Harrison is back this year, watch out.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: His failure to play in the AFC Championship Game hurts his rep some, but he's still the best runner in the game.

4. Randy Moss, WR, New England Patriots: Talk about resurrecting a reputation. He wasn't on many top 50 lists a year ago. Now he's a top 10 player.

5. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: It's chic to pick his game apart. That's foolish. Bailey is still the best cover corner in the game.

6. Mario Williams, DE, Houston Texans: Williams is making the Texans proud for passing on Reggie Bush and Vince Young to take this pass rusher. He might have been the league's best defensive player in the final eight weeks of 2007.

7. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: The only thing holding him back is the injury issues. When he's on the field, the Colts have a different defense.

8. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: After Brady and Manning he's the third-best quarterback. The Bengals need to run it a little better to take the heat off him.

9. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He was given more freedom in Wade Phillips' version of the 3-4 and played better in 2007. Ware is a speed rusher who has his best football still in front of him.

10. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: He is a powerful inside player who teams with Pat Williams to form the best tackle tandem in the league. He is good against the run, yet quick enough to get pass-rush penetration.

11. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Merriman is a pass-rush force off the edge. His quickness and power are the perfect combination for the Chargers' 3-4 system. You have to account for him on every pass play.

12. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings: He led the league in sacks last season with the Chiefs. The Vikings added him to give them the best defensive line in the league. Allen plays hard all the time.

13. Terrell Owens, WR, Dallas Cowboys: Forget all the theatrics. He's a star player. He bounced back from his off 2006 season to be one of the best last season. I'd take him on my team any day.

14. Albert Haynesworth, DT, Tennessee Titans: Before he got hurt midway through last season, he was on his way to a potential Defensive Player of the Year award. When motivated, he is as good as anybody inside.

15. Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings: Peterson was special as a rookie and should be even better this time around. He is a big, strong and fast and can rip off the big runs with an Eric Dickerson-like ease.

16. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: Jones is a rock on the left side of the Seattle line. He is a great pass protector who has improved as a run blocker.

17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers: At 26, he's entering his prime. Roethlisberger has developed into a quality passer. Playing behind a bad line last year, he hung in tough and led the Steelers to a division title.

18. Charles Woodson, CB, Green Bay Packers: Ask Packers insiders who was better last season, Woodson or Pro Bowl player Al Harris. The answer is Woodson. After Bailey, I'd take him over all other corners.

19. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: He wasn't his usual self in his first season with the Vikings in 2006, but bounced back to his dominating form last year.

20. Brian Westbrook, RB, Philadelphia Eagles: It's scary to think what the Eagles offense would be like without him. He's a better runner inside the tackles than many expected and he's good in the passing game. He's a versatile weapon.

21. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was hurt last season when Jake Delhomme went down. It doesn't help that Smith has little help on the other side. Defenses all double him.

22. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: When Marvin Harrison was out last season, Wayne emerged as the team's go-to receiver. The guess here is that is that it stays that way. He's a true star now.

23. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He is the prototype modern safety: rangy and can still tackle. He is what safeties like Roy Williams wish they could be.

24. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: When the Chargers need a first down through the air, Gates is that guy. And he does it facing constant double-coverage.

25. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: He's coming off a serious foot injury, which is a concern. It's why his ranking is down. When he's truly healthy, he's a top 15 player.

26. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: Injuries limited him last season, but Johnson is one of the best when he's on the field. The Texans were a different team without him last season.

27. Jason Peters, T, Buffalo Bills: I love young, rising players like Peters. He plays with a mean streak. Watching him play is like watching a defensive player go at it.

28. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is. But he's still pretty damn good. He does have a tendency to disappear in big games.

29. Nmandi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: DeAngelo Hall might get more attention on the other side this season, but Asomugha is a better player. He's been overlooked for the past two seasons.

30. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: He played hurt last season and wasn't the same player as in years past. But he's still one of the best when he's healthy.

31. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals gave him a new contract in March because he's their go-to guy. He teams with Anquan Boldin to form one of the top receiving duos.

32. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years back he was overrated. He's not anymore. Urlacher excels in the middle of the Chicago defense.

33. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: The offensive line woes of the Rams really hurt Jackson last season. That line will be better this season and his numbers will go up.

34. Braylon Edwards, WR, Cleveland Browns: Edwards was second to Moss with 16 receiving touchdowns in his third season in the league. He averaged 16.1 per catch and will only get better as he hits his prime.

35. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: For the second consecutive season, Brees put up huge numbers in the Saints offense. He might not be the biggest or have the strongest arm, but Brees knows how to throw the football.

36. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: Harris is strong and quick. He had eight sacks last season, showing off his quickness. He can still hold the point against the run.

37. Asante Samuel, CB, Philadelphia Eagles: He had a big season at the right time, cashing in on a huge deal with the Eagles. He's great at playing the ball in the air, but some scouts think he freelances too much.

38. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He's a huge guard at 6-4, 345 pounds and he shows off that power when blocking for the run. He improved in pass protection in 2007, although the Eagles line regressed as a whole.

39. Ernie Sims, LB, Detroit Lions: It's too bad more people don't get to watch him play. He's a fast linebacker who always seems to find his way to the football. He's a younger Derrick Brooks.

40. Lofa Tatupu, LB, Seattle Seahawks: He's a fierce tackler in the middle of that Seattle defense. He's not big at 6-feet tall, but he plays big. You can tell he loves the game.

41. Vince Wilfork, DT, New England Patriots: He was the best front-seven player on the Pats defense last season. He's a load in the middle. Moving him off the ball is tough for any center.

42. Osi Umenyiora, DE, New York Giants: His speed off the right side is a huge plus for the New York defense. Without Mike Strahan playing on the other side this season, it will be interesting to see how Umenyiora does now.

43. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers: It didn't take him long to establish himself as a top middle linebacker. He is fast, active and packs a punch. In a year or so, he might be the best insider linebacker in the game.

44. Kellen Winslow, TE, Cleveland Browns: He has emerged as one of the rising stars for a rising team. His ability to stretch the defense is vital to the Cleveland offense.

45. Aaron Kampman, DE, Green Bay Packers: He plays all out all the time. Despite being light at 265 pounds, he holds up against the run at left end quite well. He has speed and strength as a pass rusher.

46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: He's one of those guys who doesn't seem to ever slow down. He had 99 catches last year in a bad offense.

47. Marcus Trufant, CB, Seattle Seahawks: He led all NFC corners with seven interceptions. He also got credit for 22 passes defensed. He has emerged as a top-tier corner.

48. Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots: Yes, he belongs on this list. He had an amazing season as a slot receiver in 2007. Even when teams knew he was getting the football, he made plays.

49. Fred Taylor, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars: Taylor finally got his due last season with his first Pro Bowl appearance. At 32, he remains one of the biggest home-run threats in the league. His 5.4 per-carry average was second best among the league's best rushers to Peterson (5.6).

50. Devin Hester, KR, Chicago Bears: I don't normally put return men on these lists, but this guy has earned it. It will be interesting to see how long he can maintain it.

Just missed: Julius Peppers, DE, Panthers; Larry Johnson, RB, Chiefs; Patrick Kerney, DE,Seahawks; Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers; Adrian Wilson, S, Cardinals; Antonio Cromartie, CB, Chargers, Terence Newman, CB,Cowboys; DeMeco Ryans, LB, Texans; Tony Romo, QB, Cowboys
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

TackleMeBen
06-26-2008, 09:32 AM
1. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: Can he do any more than he did last season? The scary thing for the rest of the league is, yes he can.
we will see how good old tommy boy can perform without videotapes..lol..:wink02:

fansince'76
06-26-2008, 10:07 AM
Willie Parker wasn't even an honorable mention (not surprisingly, considering the source). Prisco is such a douche.

TackleMeBen
06-26-2008, 10:09 AM
Willie Parker wasn't even an honorable mention - Prisco is such a douche.
i didnt even notice that. and we all know that he would have won the rushing title if he hadnt broke his leg.. damn artifical turf..lol :sofunny:

RoethlisBURGHer
06-26-2008, 10:26 AM
Carson better than Ben?

I respect Carson as a player, he's good. But he's a sitting duck in the pocket.

Playing behind a better offensive line last year he threw fewer touchdowns and more interceptions than Ben Roethlisberger.

Ben can keep a play alive with his legs, he can get a first down by running. If Carson doesn't have any options, he takes a sack or throws it away,

TackleMeBen
06-26-2008, 10:29 AM
Carson better than Ben?

I respect Carson as a player, he's good. But he's a sitting duck in the pocket.

Playing behind a better offensive line last year he threw fewer touchdowns and more interceptions than Ben Roethlisberger.

Ben can keep a play alive with his legs, he can get a first down by running. If Carson doesn't have any options, he takes a sack or throws it away,
well you know most sport writers have a man crush on brady and palmer. therefore they will always rank them higher than ben. which doesnt bother me...then he can just go out and prove them all wrong like he did last season :tt02:

CantStop85
06-26-2008, 10:57 AM
we will see how good old tommy boy can perform without videotapes..lol..:wink02:

Like he did most of last season?

CantStop85
06-26-2008, 11:01 AM
Carson better than Ben?

I respect Carson as a player, he's good. But he's a sitting duck in the pocket.

Playing behind a better offensive line last year he threw fewer touchdowns and more interceptions than Ben Roethlisberger.

Ben can keep a play alive with his legs, he can get a first down by running. If Carson doesn't have any options, he takes a sack or throws it away,

Not arguing one way or the other, but Ben also had some semblance of a running game last year.

revefsreleets
06-26-2008, 12:21 PM
Prisco is the worst prognosticator in the sports world. Using his articles as toilet paper is an afront to sphincters everywhere. God he's awful, and you'd be hard pressed to find another writer more in deep man love with the Patriots.

St33lersguy
06-26-2008, 01:31 PM
So Carson Palmer is better than Big Ben even though Ben has led his team to the playoffs more often and is a SuperBowl QB unlike Palmer, yeah right? How is Willie Parker and James Harrison not even an honorable mention? What a terrible writer. There is definetely more than one Steeler that is a top 50 player.I was also surprised to see Tony Romo not in the top 50. I would guess he would be one of many writers that has a man crush on him and is already calling him a hall of famer.

rbryan
06-26-2008, 02:05 PM
If anyone is interested I rank Pete Prisco at #4 in my top ten list of biggest douchebags that pass themselves off as a sportswriter.

The Duke
06-26-2008, 03:25 PM
where the hell is kuhn? :mad:

revefsreleets
06-26-2008, 08:53 PM
If anyone is interested I rank Pete Prisco at #4 in my top ten list of biggest douchebags that pass themselves off as a sportswriter.

Jesus, there are 3 who are worse? Who are they?

Wait, Adam Schein? He had the Steelers at 7-9 the year they won the SB.

ShutDown24
06-26-2008, 09:21 PM
All top player lists are jokes and completely irrelevant. I could argue that Shawn Andrews is a better player at his position than Brady is at his.

Mosca
06-26-2008, 10:20 PM
I'm more disappointed with Palmer's inability to LEAD his team. A real leader wouldn't have let the team fragment the way his did. I'd take Kitna over Palmer any day of the week (but mostly on Sunday), not because I think he's more talented but because I think he would win more games. He won just as many games with a less talented Lions team last year.

Palmer can throw a football, but his ability to be a winner is really overrated. He'd be my first choice in a Punt/Pass/Kick contest, but the NFL is about more than pretty spirals.

CantStop85
06-26-2008, 11:35 PM
I'm more disappointed with Palmer's inability to LEAD his team. A real leader wouldn't have let the team fragment the way his did.
So did you want him on the field throwing the football or on the sidelines wearing a headset and drawing up plays? I don't see how Palmer had much control over the team "fragmenting."

RoethlisBURGHer
06-26-2008, 11:44 PM
So did you want him on the field throwing the football or on the sidelines wearing a headset and drawing up plays? I don't see how Palmer had much control over the team "fragmenting."

I'd hate to admit it, but you hit the nail on the head.

The Bengals fragmented because Chris Henry was a thug, Chad Johnson is a showboating douchebag, and TJ just wanted the respect he deserved.

The person to blame, IMHO is Marvin Lewis.

9-5
06-27-2008, 01:00 AM
Mario Williams at #6?

And by the way, Carson Palmer is the better QB, hands down. BB7 has a run game and a good defense. Carson does not. Give Carson a good O-line, he will light you up. He threw 6 TD's against the Browns, in one game. Granted, our pass rush sucked major a**, but the point still is that Carson was, is, and probably will be a better pure QB then Big Ben

fansince'76
06-27-2008, 01:26 AM
And by the way, Carson Palmer is the better QB, hands down. BB7 has a run game and a good defense. Carson does not. Give Carson a good O-line, he will light you up. He threw 6 TD's against the Browns, in one game. Granted, our pass rush sucked major a**, but the point still is that Carson was, is, and probably will be a better pure QB then Big Ben

Palmer has a better deep ball, but that's about it. And what does a team's pass rush have to do with the QB's effectiveness? I assume you mean pass blocking? Ben has excelled behind less-than-stellar pass blocking himself and put up more TDs, less INTs and was simply more efficient than Palmer was last year, and Palmer had the better WR corps, man-for-man. Again, Palmer's a better deep passer, but for my money, Ben is the better QB.

Galax Steeler
06-27-2008, 04:00 AM
Mario Williams at #6?

And by the way, Carson Palmer is the better QB, hands down. BB7 has a run game and a good defense. Carson does not. Give Carson a good O-line, he will light you up.

Whos fault is that it isn't our fault that he plays for the bungholes just because ben plays for a better team then carson dont make carson a better quarterback.

Aussie_steeler
06-27-2008, 04:24 AM
Mario Williams at #6?

I agree. This one made me stop reading through the list after I saw that.

St33lersguy
06-27-2008, 08:24 AM
Mario Williams at #6?

Only someone as stupid as Prisco would think you're the number 6 player in the league just because of a few good games.

Dino 6 Rings
06-27-2008, 08:33 AM
How many of his top 50 made the pro-bowl last season?

CantStop85
06-27-2008, 12:32 PM
How many of his top 50 made the pro-bowl last season?

The Pro Bowl?

The Pro Bowl's probably a worse measurement of talent than this list.

MasterOfPuppets
06-27-2008, 12:34 PM
The Pro Bowl?

The Pro Bowl's probably a worse measurement of talent than this list.:iagree: .......

ace man 21
06-27-2008, 07:57 PM
how is romo not on this list or tom number 1 he cheats

lilyoder6
06-27-2008, 08:17 PM
mario williams is good but not number 6.. i would honestly rate willis higher than williams...

bigmaq
06-27-2008, 11:32 PM
If this was 2004 or 2005, Walter Jones would make sense. Obviously, you have not seen him play the last two years. Trufant is overrated and feasted on the Dilfers, Ferrottes, Fiedlers and Collins in the league. Prisco obviously took the easy way. Did you phone this report in. What a laughingstock. The fans could have chosen the players that were. We expect the "experts" to pick the players that are today. This read like something out of timewarp - like one of those notes left for future generations or species to find.

bigmaq
06-27-2008, 11:34 PM
As a Stiller fan - I would expect better of this Forum to drop this lazy piece of Prisco's to discuss. Lame article and even lamer subject for a thread. I expect more of Stiller fans. Living in Seattle this is what I expect from these late to the party fans.

Preacher
06-28-2008, 01:31 AM
I am shocked that Willie didn't make it.

i am even shocked that Ward didn't make it.

I guess they don't measure heart, or team play, or WR blocks. Only catches and TD's.

I guess that is why only 7players from the last 3 SB teams are on there... and two of those are QB's...

about 5 are also Colts, which are big stat offense team....

And of course Brady/Moss... funny, last year, Moss wouldn't even have made the list.

SO yeah... Stat driven.

I will take Ward thankyou.

The Duke
06-28-2008, 04:29 AM
I guess that is why only 7players from the last 3 SB teams are on there... and two of those are QB's...
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hmm....nice catch :thumbsup:

this lists don't matter, which team is better and performs better is what matters. but then again, there's also power rankings, which suck too :doh:

TackleMeBen
07-01-2008, 05:50 AM
i am watching mike and mike and osi is filling in today and said that mario williams shouldnt be #6. and he made the comment that this list is according to him and the way he said it was very sacrastic.. i love this guy(and the fact that he help defeat the pats in the superbowl..lol)

missedgehead
07-01-2008, 06:32 PM
Can someone here answer something here: Why the love for Palmer? WHy all the fawning over someone who has NOT won a playoff game at the very least? Ben has a what 5-2 or something record OVER Palmer. Ben has a Super Bowl Ring and a 6-2 (I think) Playoff Record or whatever. Palmer has O playoff wins. ZERO. Why do these mediots love Palmer so much? Nice spiral. Yes. Has a nice set of WRs when one of them is not shooting off his mouth. So? And? Palmer puts up nice numbers for fantasy owners. Ok. And?

missedgehead
07-01-2008, 06:36 PM
i am watching mike and mike and osi is filling in today and said that mario williams shouldnt be #6. and he made the comment that this list is according to him and the way he said it was very sacrastic.. i love this guy(and the fact that he help defeat the pats in the superbowl..lol)


LOL. I have loved the NY Giants pretty much all my life, just as much as I have loved my Steelers, and I SWEAR, I did not know that the Giants had so many "fans." :doh:

Just teasing. :)

TackleMeBen
07-01-2008, 06:44 PM
Can someone here answer something here: Why the love for Palmer? WHy all the fawning over someone who has NOT won a playoff game at the very least? Ben has a what 5-2 or something record OVER Palmer. Ben has a Super Bowl Ring and a 6-2 (I think) Playoff Record or whatever. Palmer has O playoff wins. ZERO. Why do these mediots love Palmer so much? Nice spiral. Yes. Has a nice set of WRs when one of them is not shooting off his mouth. So? And? Palmer puts up nice numbers for fantasy owners. Ok. And?

because the media has a man crush on palmer.

steel striker
07-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Can someone here answer something here: Why the love for Palmer? WHy all the fawning over someone who has NOT won a playoff game at the very least? Ben has a what 5-2 or something record OVER Palmer. Ben has a Super Bowl Ring and a 6-2 (I think) Playoff Record or whatever. Palmer has O playoff wins. ZERO. Why do these mediots love Palmer so much? Nice spiral. Yes. Has a nice set of WRs when one of them is not shooting off his mouth. So? And? Palmer puts up nice numbers for fantasy owners. Ok. And?

I agree and, you know when Ben had the off year with the accident he was the media's whipping boy. Then when Palmer has a year with 20 int's nothing is said except the bengals are a bad team. That drives me crazy and, last year Ben proves that he is an elite qb very little praise. Thats okay when we win the Sb this year people will have to Ben his due. :tt03::tt03:

TackleMeBen
07-02-2008, 08:17 PM
I agree and, you know when Ben had the off year with the accident he was the media's whipping boy. Then when Palmer has a year with 20 int's nothing is said except the bengals are a bad team. That drives me crazy and, last year Ben proves that he is an elite qb very little praise. Thats okay when we win the Sb this year people will have to Ben his due. :tt03::tt03:
no they wont. they will say its because ben has a great running game and pittsburgh has a great defense... but i did see that ben was ranked higher than palmer on espn fanasty football list for qbs..lol :chuckle: