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Haiku_Dirtt
08-05-2008, 01:17 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08218/901922-66.stm

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Kemoeatu practiced wearing a protective brace on his left triceps and said his arm felt fine after a 90-minute afternoon practice.

"It was good," Kemoeatu said. "I'm glad practice was short [because] I still got to get in some cardio and get in shape. Other than that, I felt good. I felt out of whack from not being out there, but give it a couple days."

:banging: Okay. This is disturbing. You are NOT a starter. Never been a starter in the NFL. You are replacing one of the finest footbal players in the game.

If you are using CAMP to get in shape then you are already LOSING. What don't THEY UNDERSTAND?

Mike Tomlin. Is this what we can expect in future camps? Granted the blubbering is still from the end of the Cowher Era.

This shows an utter lack of respect...to who I'm not quite sure yet.

Lord Stiller
08-05-2008, 01:20 PM
:banging: Okay. This is disturbing. You are NOT a starter. Never been a starter in the NFL. You are replacing one of the finest footbal players in the game.

If you are using CAMP to get in shape then you are already LOSING. What don't THEY UNDERSTAND?

Mike Tomlin. Is this what we can expect in future camps? Granted the blubbering is still from the end of the Cowher Era.

This shows an utter lack of respect...to who I'm not quite sure yet.

stop whining. he's just a little rusty. I heard he looked good out there excpet for a couple instances

Kemo is going to be a big upgrade over Faneca as a pass-blocker (that's right, i said it!:wave:)

CanadianSteel
08-05-2008, 01:35 PM
stop whining. he's just a little rusty. I heard he looked good out there excpet for a couple instances

Kemo is going to be a big upgrade over Faneca as a pass-blocker (that's right, i said it!:wave:)

I believe you need to pass more to win in the NFL nowdays, more than before anyhow. Still need to run the ball and solid "D" as well don't get me wrong but I think the Oline may be better suited to the offence this year. Not an experts but it appears from what I have read that we are changing from a power run team to more of a zone blocking type scheme whick may benefit the Oline.
Here's hoping anyhow........:noidea:

The Duke
08-05-2008, 01:57 PM
Kemo is going to be a big upgrade over Faneca as a pass-blocker (that's right, i said it!:wave:)

definitely. his strength is what pretty much defines this guy, so he won't get pushed around like the linemen last season....

Kemoeatu back

As I told you would happen yesterday, Chris Kemoeatu returned to practice today when he was activated from the PUP list.

I got a good chance to watch Kemoeatu in the one-on-one drills and you see why the team likes him so much. He's just a big, powerful guy with a nasty streak.

He did about 10 reps in the pass protection drill and dominated eight of them, with only Ryan McBean and Kyle Clement getting the best of him on one rep each. And that's a rusty Kemoeatu.

The only question with him over the years has been his ability to pick up the playbook. It's not that he's not bright, but he does have some language issues that seem to hold him back a little.

and that's after coming back from being in the PUP. just wait till he catches up with everyone

can't wait to see him on friday, my eye will be on him more than anyone else in the agme

wootawnee
08-05-2008, 02:03 PM
He is huge...I can't wait to see him truck the big dudes in the middle of the d lines .....He will move them.....Here is how I would try our line....I would put Big WIllie at center....He is shorter and is a vocal dude and I think would be a great one..


Smith LT........ Kemoeatu RG................Colon C.............Simmons RG..........Starksy RT


Also, Tre Essex Did well in the playoff game last year...He was in Cowher's dog house and had some trouble getting out......Cowher did that to alot of guy's.( James Harrison being one of them).For some unknown reason......

Let me tell you this about Max Starks.....He is the best down field Run blocker we got....In Superbowl Xl on WIllie parkers 75 yard jaunt, Faneca made the huge hit pulling...But Starks took out the back side pursuit big time.....He dominates linebackers this way....He is a huge reason Parker had big runs in 05-06 ,more in 06-07,....But dropped in 07-08..When starks was out of the line up.....Look at the tape of most of the long runs Willie ever had to the right and you'lle see Starks gobbling up a linebacker or 2......He knows how to sneak right in there....

lilyoder6
08-05-2008, 02:10 PM
I think that he'll do A better job thAn faneca. Bc of the fact alan had the contract issues in the back of his mind

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-05-2008, 10:05 PM
Let me tell you this about Max Starks.....He is the best down field Run blocker we got....In Superbowl Xl on WIllie parkers 75 yard jaunt, Faneca made the huge hit pulling...But Starks took out the back side pursuit big time.....He dominates linebackers this way....He is a huge reason Parker had big runs in 05-06 ,more in 06-07,....But dropped in 07-08..When starks was out of the line up.....Look at the tape of most of the long runs Willie ever had to the right and you'lle see Starks gobbling up a linebacker or 2......He knows how to sneak right in there....

Please take another look at the tape you suggest "Faneca made the huge hit" and Starks took out the back side pursuit big time"

Faneca got a weak side shot on Michael Boulware, a SS that he outweighed by some 60 LBS I guess. Starks also did a good job of getting in the way of Lofa Tatupu, again a guy he outweighed by at least 80lbs.

The major problem with your assertion that Starks is "the best downfield run blocker we got" is that ITS NOT TRUE. Faneca, Simmons, Mahan were the best downfield blockers last season.

You dont want your OT downfield blocking, you want him to handle the DE to get the edge or keep the DE from sacking your QB. The reason it looks as if Starks is getting downfield blocking is because he missed his first block and is just looking for somebody in the wrong colour jersey.

As 10 year NFL veteran O lineman Jamie Dukes says ..." if an O-lineman is running 40 yards downfield in a game, its because he missed his block at the line of scrimmage.....its not a good thing."

xfl2001fan
08-05-2008, 10:33 PM
I always thought Hines Ward was your best downfield run blocker.

Blitzburgh_Fever
08-05-2008, 10:41 PM
I always thought Hines Ward was your best downfield run blocker.

True that, but Dan Kreider pwns too...oh wait :banging:

Hammer Of The GODS
08-05-2008, 10:50 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08218/901922-66.stm

SNIP
Kemoeatu practiced wearing a protective brace on his left triceps and said his arm felt fine after a 90-minute afternoon practice.

"It was good," Kemoeatu said. "I'm glad practice was short [because] I still got to get in some cardio and get in shape. Other than that, I felt good. I felt out of whack from not being out there, but give it a couple days."

:banging: Okay. This is disturbing. You are NOT a starter. Never been a starter in the NFL. You are replacing one of the finest footbal players in the game.

If you are using CAMP to get in shape then you are already LOSING. What don't THEY UNDERSTAND?

Mike Tomlin. Is this what we can expect in future camps? Granted the blubbering is still from the end of the Cowher Era.

This shows an utter lack of respect...to who I'm not quite sure yet.

No offense dude but ........chill out.

This is an arguement over semantics.

You are taking something this guy said at the end of a day full of sweat and exertion and making a big deal of it.

Maybe I'm missing something..... has it been reported that he showed up out of shape?

Is the season here yet?

Preacher
08-06-2008, 01:29 AM
Hammer...

your dead right on.

Fact is... he is probably feeling a bit weaker because he DIDN'T use that arm...

There is a big difference between running laps... and pushing/driving people. One does NOT get you in shape for the other.

Steeldude
08-06-2008, 01:38 AM
kemo received the starting spot because faneca left. he was declared the starter before particpating in his first practice. why are the steelers handing out starting jobs based on "next in line"? shouldn't it be best player starts? perhaps kemo is the best option, but why not let them fight it out to know for sure?

IMO, it seems there would be no(or less) incentive for players to practice hard and earn a starting job if it boils down to tenure.

Galax Steeler
08-06-2008, 04:21 AM
I think Kemoeatu will do just fine I believe he is our best option we have to fill that hole.

SteelerNation007
08-06-2008, 08:46 AM
You guys need to relax on Kemo....The guy is obviously better than any other option right now on the team. Look at all the good stuff we are hearing coming out of camp since he has started practicing. All of a sudden Parker/Mendenhall are following him on goal line for TD's

wootawnee
08-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Please take another look at the tape you suggest "Faneca made the huge hit" and Starks took out the back side pursuit big time"

Faneca got a weak side shot on Michael Boulware, a SS that he outweighed by some 60 LBS I guess. Starks also did a good job of getting in the way of Lofa Tatupu, again a guy he outweighed by at least 80lbs.

The major problem with your assertion that Starks is "the best downfield run blocker we got" is that ITS NOT TRUE. Faneca, Simmons, Mahan were the best downfield blockers last season.

You dont want your OT downfield blocking, you want him to handle the DE to get the edge or keep the DE from sacking your QB. The reason it looks as if Starks is getting downfield blocking is because he missed his first block and is just looking for somebody in the wrong colour jersey.

As 10 year NFL veteran O lineman Jamie Dukes says ..." if an O-lineman is running 40 yards downfield in a game, its because he missed his block at the line of scrimmage.....its not a good thing."

All I am saying is that one little block on a linebacker is the difference in a long run.....That is all it takes....And I think Max is really great at these "sneaky" blocks.....He takes up alot of space............

I think Tomlin has a beef with him or he would be out there........I mean the city loves him and he does so much charity work then gets yanked for no reason........The line started to get a bad rap after they pulled him and Hartings left...........

Tomlin should wake up and look outside the box .......

We do not have a good blockin fullback since big Danny got cut.........

Carry Davis can't cut it...........He is soft.........

These are the big leagues and you gotta hit the hole hard........
He jogs up to the hole at the goaline and is afraid to hit..........
He is afraid of the backers.........Get a heart dude......

RoethlisBURGHer
08-06-2008, 10:55 AM
Nobody comes into camp in game-shape. The only way to get into game shape is to practice in pads and run scrimmages and preseason games. Being in game shape and being in good physical shape are two completly different things.

And as for Kemoeatu being handed the LG spot, reports last year were that he would've started if not sitting behind Faneca and Simmons, the two incumbant gaurds on the offensive line. It's his job to lose they said, so it's not like his name is set in stone, just pencil.

The only names set in stone are:

Ben Roethlisberger
Willie Parker
James Farrior
Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Ike Taylor
James Harrison
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Casey Hampton (he will be reactivated before the season starts)
Aaron Smith
Brett Keisel

Everyone else, IMHO is competing to earn or keep a starting spot.

SteelMember
08-06-2008, 11:35 AM
Nobody comes into camp in game-shape. The only way to get into game shape is to practice in pads and run scrimmages and preseason games. Being in game shape and being in good physical shape are two completly different things.

And as for Kemoeatu being handed the LG spot, reports last year were that he would've started if not sitting behind Faneca and Simmons, the two incumbant gaurds on the offensive line. It's his job to lose they said, so it's not like his name is set in stone, just pencil.

The only names set in stone are:

Ben Roethlisberger
Willie Parker
James Farrior
Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Ike Taylor
James Harrison
LaMarr Woodley
Troy Polamalu
Casey Hampton (he will be reactivated before the season starts)
Aaron Smith
Brett Keisel

Everyone else, IMHO is competing to earn or keep a starting spot.

We may need Jeff Reed. At least for PAT's :chuckle:

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-06-2008, 11:36 AM
All I am saying is that one little block on a linebacker is the difference in a long run.....That is all it takes....And I think Max is really great at these "sneaky" blocks.....He takes up alot of space............

I think Tomlin has a beef with him or he would be out there........I mean the city loves him and he does so much charity work then gets yanked for no reason........The line started to get a bad rap after they pulled him and Hartings left...........

Tomlin should wake up and look outside the box .......

We do not have a good blockin fullback since big Danny got cut.........

Carry Davis can't cut it...........He is soft.........

These are the big leagues and you gotta hit the hole hard........
He jogs up to the hole at the goaline and is afraid to hit..........
He is afraid of the backers.........Get a heart dude......

I agree that Davis is not a good blocker, unfortunately that is a Bruce Arians offensive trait of not having a FB, which has always cost his offenses in playoffs or close games. No good running game, but rather a spread offense.

Starks was seen as a huge man with decent feet and "potential" as a SR. in Florida, the same here and now a the time of his 2nd contract still a guy of unfulfilled potential. I remember a Senior bowl workout comment that if he showed any interest in run blocking that he could really be a prospect, but he still doesnt.

I played O line in highschool, post highschool and have coached it for over a decade, so appreciate great O line play. Starks still is a guy that is good, but wasting size and talent. If you could mix Colon's motor and work ethic, with Starks size......you would have an all-pro. Unfortunately you have a case where Colon is a better PLAYER than Starks.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-06-2008, 12:21 PM
I have been hesitantly optimistic about our line this year...and LOVE hearing that Kemo is looking good.
Has anyone heard anything positive about our Center position???

Edman
08-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Max Starks lost his starting job for a reason, and next year he'll be gone.

The Duke
08-06-2008, 01:35 PM
I have been hesitantly optimistic about our line this year...and LOVE hearing that Kemo is looking good.
Has anyone heard anything positive about our Center position???

apparently mahan will start against the eagles and hartwig against the bills. maybe after that they makethe final decision, seems like enough time for the o line to gel together for the remaining games

you can find some info on hartwig and mahan here....

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-06-2008, 01:38 PM
apparently mahan will start against the eagles and hartwig against the bills. maybe after that they makethe final decision, seems like enough time for the o line to gel together for the remaining games

you can find some info on hartwig and mahan here....

http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/

Thanks...(gotta wait until I get home to check the link....cant access it from work)

lilyoder6
08-06-2008, 01:42 PM
i guess i could see that there.. then they should have a game where colon play lg and starks plays rt

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-06-2008, 11:22 PM
I have been hoping to see Kemo show his stuff the entire offseason. All those that said he couldnt pull were wrong....he isnt as fleet of foot as Faneca, but pulling requires quickness. Downfield blocking on a screen pass requires more speed.

Love this report from camp...

"The goal-line drill was much better," Tomlin said, comparing it to the one Sunday. "It was spirited. I think No. 68 had something to do with that.

"It's a unit thing, and I think, no doubt, that Chris' presence was a difference for us today. We pulled him. It is what he does, he's a road-grader, he's a violent run-blocker and we ran behind him."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08219/902115-66.stm

revefsreleets
08-07-2008, 09:26 AM
"Violent run blocker"

I like the sound of that.

Lord Stiller
08-07-2008, 10:16 AM
nice!

looks like Kemo is a beast!

F the naysayers!

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