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Atlanta Dan
08-08-2008, 02:29 PM
John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.

In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.
Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter's baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5441195&page=1

OK then - if you did not love her that makes it soooo much better and you obviously are not the father of the baby based upon the paternity test you did not take:banging:

There is a special place in hell for someone who cheats on a spouse with terminal cancer while claiming what a devoted family man he is.

Can you imagine if the Dems would have nominated this creep?

revefsreleets
08-08-2008, 02:33 PM
Never trust a lawyer, especially a PI lawyer (Sorry Dan, I saw the opening and had to run with it):sofunny:

steelwall
08-08-2008, 02:40 PM
OK then - if you did not love her that makes it soooo much better and you obviously are not the father of the baby based upon the paternity test you did not take:banging:

There is a special place in hell for someone who cheats on a spouse with terminal cancer while claiming what a devoted family man he is.

Can you imagine if the Dems would have nominated this creep?

Yeah, throwing in the "But I didnt love her" makes it all better... What a complete Jackass.....

edit: not a jab at the party...lol.... just thought about my choice of words...

HometownGal
08-08-2008, 02:44 PM
WOW! :jawdrop: I am totally shocked. I always believed Edwards to be the consummate devoted family man, especially in light of his wife's recent battle against cancer. Have to admit - he fooled me good.

I guess we can cross his name of the list of Demo VP candidates.

Preacher
08-08-2008, 02:48 PM
He was just too plastic... too slick for my taste.... I am not surprised. He reminded me of a used car salesman.

Now Obama, or even John Kerry, that would surprise me. They don't seem to have the personality for something like that.

Edman
08-08-2008, 02:49 PM
I guess we can cross his name off the list of Demo VP candidates.

For good...

Atlanta Dan
08-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Never trust a lawyer, especially a PI lawyer (Sorry Dan, I saw the opening and had to run with it):sofunny:

No problem - no PI lawyer here:sofunny:

Atlanta Dan
08-08-2008, 03:36 PM
Yeah, throwing in the "But I didnt love her" makes it all betters

Wait - apparently there's more

The network said that Mr. Edwards “made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?hp

So if your spouse has cancer you can play the get out of jail free card if the cancer is in remission - tell it to the jury John

steelwall
08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
Wait - apparently there's more

The network said that Mr. Edwards “made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/08/abc-news-edwards-admits-to-extramarital-affair/index.html?hp

So if your spouse has cancer you can play the get out of jail free card if the cancer is in remission - tell it to the jury John

I have to agree with Preacher on the way I've allways felt about Edwards, even being from NC myself. The affair doesn't suprise me all that much, as terrible and heartless as it is... But were I am fooled is how he seems to be such a complete idiot:doh: Is he trying to justify this somehow? Geez.... what a scum bag...

tony hipchest
08-08-2008, 04:16 PM
an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.

was he boning a motel room porn queen who had her own equipment???

gooooooo john! :cheer:

I guess we can cross his name of the list of Demo VP candidates.

whoohoooo! that puts richardson atleast 1 step closer to the seat he wont get. still, it just increased his odds.

HometownGal
08-08-2008, 04:19 PM
Now Obama, or even John Kerry, that would surprise me. They don't seem to have the personality for something like that.

Wouldn't surprise me with either of them. In fact, I'd give them kudos. Being married to the Witch of the East and the Witch of the West must be pure HELL. I'm sure they get a broom over the head on a regular basis. :chuckle:

Texasteel
08-08-2008, 05:15 PM
I've been around while and know that no one, NO ONE, is immune to this sort of thing, famous last words, it will never happen to me, but take it like a man and don't try to dance around the facts.

If I was him right now, I would want to know for sure if that was my kid or not. If it was nobody in this world would keep me away from her. I have no respect for the guy.

Atlanta Dan
08-08-2008, 05:44 PM
He was just too plastic... too slick for my taste.... I am not surprised. He reminded me of a used car salesman.

Now Obama, or even John Kerry, that would surprise me. They don't seem to have the personality for something like that.

An "adulterous" personality covers a lot of ground and political ideologies :chuckle:- my bet is the McCain campaign does not want to get any long term discussion of this issue kicking around

HometownGal
08-08-2008, 05:58 PM
An "adulterous" personality covers a lot of ground and political ideologies :chuckle:- my bet is the McCain campaign does not want to get any long term discussion of this issue kicking around

Considering the fact that McCain's adultery happened over almost 30 years ago, I really don't think it will be an issue. Not that what he did was right in any regard, but he has been taking care of all of her medical bills since their divorce in 1980, which at least makes him somewhat of an "honorable" adulterer. :chuckle: :wink02:

Atlanta Dan
08-09-2008, 07:15 PM
Considering the fact that McCain's adultery happened over almost 30 years ago, I really don't think it will be an issue. Not that what he did was right in any regard, but he has been taking care of all of her medical bills since their divorce in 1980, which at least makes him somewhat of an "honorable" adulterer. :chuckle: :wink02:

Well if paying the bills is the test then I guess Edwards is an absolute prince of an adulterer:sofunny:

Rielle Hunter, the former presidential campaign aide who had an affair with John Edwards, said yesterday that she will not pursue DNA testing to establish the paternity of her 5-month-old daughter, despite the former senator's offer to participate in such a test. ...

Fred Baron, a friend of Edwards and a campaign fundraiser, acknowledged yesterday that he had helped Hunter financially so that she could move to what ABC described as a $3 million home in Santa Barbara.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/09/AR2008080901298.html?hpid=topnews

Good to see in this day and age that some people that are bought can be counted on to do the honorable thing and stay bought

Preacher
08-09-2008, 07:22 PM
Well if paying the bills is the test then I guess Edwards is an absolute prince of an adulterer:sofunny:

Rielle Hunter, the former presidential campaign aide who had an affair with John Edwards, said yesterday that she will not pursue DNA testing to establish the paternity of her 5-month-old daughter, despite the former senator's offer to participate in such a test. ...

Fred Baron, a friend of Edwards and a campaign fundraiser, acknowledged yesterday that he had helped Hunter financially so that she could move to what ABC described as a $3 million home in Santa Barbara.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/09/AR2008080901298.html?hpid=topnews

Good to see in this day and age that some people that are bought can be counted on to do the honorable thing and stay bought


You know the definition of an honorable politician right?

one that is once bought... stays bought.


its the kind of honor we can do less of.

Atlanta Dan
08-09-2008, 07:39 PM
You know the definition of an honorable politician right?

one that is once bought... stays bought.


its the kind of honor we can do less of.

Well yeah - I guess I should have used that sarcasm smiley

Preacher
08-09-2008, 08:31 PM
Well..

I just saw a 5 minute "expose" of this story on NBC. :pity:


He is not an elected official. Why does it matter at this point?


People need to leave it alone.

If he was in public office... maybe it would be worth comment-- depending on the situation.

Not here.

Godfather
08-09-2008, 08:50 PM
He was just too plastic... too slick for my taste.... I am not surprised. He reminded me of a used car salesman.

Now Obama, or even John Kerry, that would surprise me. They don't seem to have the personality for something like that.

I'b be surprised if Kerry found a willing partner.

Godfather
08-09-2008, 08:51 PM
Can you imagine if the Dems would have nominated this creep?

I can't believe he managed to keep this quiet in December, when he was polling well in Iowa. Maybe the big bad Clinton machine isn't as effective as it gets credit for.

Atlanta Dan
08-09-2008, 08:54 PM
Well..

I just saw a 5 minute "expose" of this story on NBC. :pity:


He is not an elected official. Why does it matter at this point?


People need to leave it alone.

If he was in public office... maybe it would be worth comment-- depending on the situation.

Not here.

If NBC does not meet your standards then you might want to consider changing the channel - DirectTV has about 200 of them

Same goes for threads on this board:chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
08-09-2008, 08:59 PM
I can't believe he managed to keep this quiet in December, when he was polling well in Iowa. Maybe the big bad Clinton machine isn't as effective as it gets credit for.

The $3 million house in California might have had something to do with that and the Clintons probably weren't real excited about teeing up the issue of whether marital fidelity is conduct one is entitled to expect of a President

stillers4me
08-09-2008, 09:12 PM
You know, I always wondered why Bill felt the need to lie about the whole infidelity issue. Knowing who he's married to, there isn't a single Republican out there that would have blamed him a bit. :toofunny:

Texasteel
08-10-2008, 06:32 AM
You know, I always wondered why Bill felt the need to lie about the whole infidelity issue. Knowing who he's married to, there isn't a single Republican out there that would have blamed him a bit. :toofunny:

I think she got made because he got to Monica before she did. :wink02:

Preacher
08-10-2008, 10:29 AM
If NBC does not meet your standards then you might want to consider changing the channel - DirectTV has about 200 of them

Same goes for threads on this board:chuckle:

I think you get my point.... or is it just too hard to comprehend that I actually DONT see every dem as the devil incarnate :chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
08-10-2008, 10:40 AM
I think you get my point.... or is it just too hard to comprehend that I actually DONT see every dem as the devil incarnate :chuckle:

I probably would never have started the thread if Edwards would have simply said yeah I did it, but his decision to try to put out his spin on Nightline wrapped in sanctimony made it too rich a target

The ombudsman for The New York Times has an interesting observation today on whether the so-called mainstream media (this of course has been kicking around Drudge for weeks) should get into this

Sometimes, There’s News in the Gutter

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/10/opinion/10pubed.html?ref=opinion

:drink:

Preacher
08-10-2008, 11:24 PM
I guess his outright denial for political reasons make him a target... I just tire of it.

It was one thing when Clinton did it in the office... and there were issues of sexual misconduct at work... and more importantly, perjury.

TroysBadDawg
08-12-2008, 09:38 PM
Good to see in this day and age that some people that are bought can be counted on to do the honorable thing and stay bought

That so reminds me of a certain famous car ride of a bridge into the Chapaquitic River on On July 18, 1969. Senator Kennedy drove his car off a wooden bridge on Chapaquitic Island. Mary Jo Kopechne was left to drown and her family was paid off.

revefsreleets
08-12-2008, 09:55 PM
Edwards would have been caught eventually. This was smart in the long run. He'll lose a little political capital in the short-term, but this dude is young, and he's observed the Clinton spin machine recover from far worse. Remember, he's the lowest form of scum on the planet: A PI attorney. He'd sell his wife for a dollar to be President, but bilk an honest company that really did make a mistake for a billion and shut them right down.

Lowest rungs of Hell are reserved for his ilk...

Godfather
08-13-2008, 08:40 AM
Edwards would have been caught eventually. This was smart in the long run. He'll lose a little political capital in the short-term, but this dude is young, and he's observed the Clinton spin machine recover from far worse. Remember, he's the lowest form of scum on the planet: A PI attorney. He'd sell his wife for a dollar to be President, but bilk an honest company that really did make a mistake for a billion and shut them right down.

Lowest rungs of Hell are reserved for his ilk...

PI attorneys aren't necessarily evil. Some are leeches who file lottery suits, but there are people out there with legitimate tort claims and they need representation.

I'm fully on Edwards' side in the swimming pool case. But what he did to the OB-GYN profession is unconscionable.

revefsreleets
08-13-2008, 09:05 AM
There are PI attorneys and there are PI attorneys. When the JD's are passed out every spring, what do you thnk happens to the kids NOT in the top 20% of the best schools? A lot of them become ambulance chasers, advertising to the unemployed how they can win their own personal little lotto.

Just like anything, everything in moderation. There are probably 100X more PI attorneys than we actually need, and that dragon needs fed...

Godfather
08-13-2008, 09:14 AM
There are PI attorneys and there are PI attorneys. When the JD's are passed out every spring, what do you thnk happens to the kids NOT in the top 20% of the best schools? A lot of them become ambulance chasers, advertising to the unemployed how they can win their own personal little lotto.

Just like anything, everything in moderation. There are probably 100X more PI attorneys than we actually need, and that dragon needs fed...

Yep. Best example is two of the PI attorneys who run commercials on the NOLA stations. Morris Bart puts up clients saying "Morris Bart got me $459,000" and standing in front of a top of the line stereo system. He represents everything that's wrong with the tort system.

Michael Hingle is the other side of the coin. His commercials show cars crumpled like tin cans, and he says "Take them (the 18 wheelers) to court and they won't be so big." Fully appropriate if you've seen the way some of those big rigs drive on I-10 in New Orleans East.

revefsreleets
08-13-2008, 02:33 PM
Know a dude who's job was to sit in hospitals and approach people (all on the DL, of course) and solicit their "business"...

His boss was a PI atty of course. Unethical, unlawful, and it could get him disbarred (or worse) but the guy found this practice to have a much better ROI than advertising on TV and in the phone book.

Pond scum...

xfl2001fan
08-13-2008, 06:14 PM
Fully appropriate if you've seen the way some of those big rigs drive on I-10 in New Orleans East.

And yet, there are just as many problems with the "4 Wheelers" cutting off Truck Drivers because they're more maneuverable. I have seen far more stupid drivers behind the wheel of the motorized roller-skates than I have behind the wheel of a Big Rigs.

While I don't have a CDL, I do have to (on a regular basis) drive 2-1/2 tons, 5 tons, FMTVs and LMTVs for the Army. There's nothing worse than being in a Convoy, going down the highway, keeping a perfect braking distance behind the truck in front of you only to have some car decide he doesn't want to wait 15 more seconds to get to his next exit by getting in line. Instead, he has to speed up, swerve over into my lane between my truck and the truck in front of me, slam on his brakes (because the off ramp is only 35 MPH) and never mind that Air-Brakes on a fully-packed 5-ton doesn't allow for quick stops.

But if the car get's run over because that driver is stupid, what do the headlines say?

US Soldier Run's Over Civilian Car During Convoy...
Tragedy on I-70, Car get's run over by Army truck that couldn't stop fast enough
Soldier not keeping a safe following distance...

Pick your line, pick your farce.

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Preacher
08-13-2008, 06:19 PM
XFL....


Driving I 71 between Louisville and Cincinatti...

I can not tell you how many times I had to pick up my cell phone and call the safety number on the truck to talk to their dispatcher.

You better believe they got the number off the side of the truck, the license plate, the color of the truck, and every other identifying marker.

Did any of them lose their jobs? I sure hope so. Yeah, I know, they have a family to feed. BUt there were many more people on that road that had a family to come home to as well.

xfl2001fan
08-13-2008, 06:32 PM
XFL....


Driving I 71 between Louisville and Cincinatti...

I can not tell you how many times I had to pick up my cell phone and call the safety number on the truck to talk to their dispatcher.

You better believe they got the number off the side of the truck, the license plate, the color of the truck, and every other identifying marker.

Did any of them lose their jobs? I sure hope so. Yeah, I know, they have a family to feed. BUt there were many more people on that road that had a family to come home to as well.

I know there are dumb truckers. (Here's where the comments really come flooding in.) My mom has been driving for Ryder for just shy of 20 years now. She's also called dispatchers from trucking companies. She believes (as I do) that a dumbass is a dumbass, regardless of rank, station, wealth, etc...

The only time she got into a wreck, some lady tried to cross from the left lane, through the middle land and into my mom's lane rather fast...to get to an exit. My mom wasn't expecting that and couldn't brake fast enough.

The headline read something like: Trucker crushes car near an exit ramp.

What do you do when you're in that position? She had to take two weeks vacation after that because she was a jumble of emotions. Pissed that the lady ruined her safety rating (the ONLY mark on her record), scared because she could have killed that lady and then pissed because regardless of who's at fault, she's in the bigger vehicle, so she's viewed as a bully. She was wrong because someone else is an idiot. If my mom had been at fault, she could lose her CDL (and her career.) Do you think that lady lost her license? Even if she did, she can petition for a "workers permit" and still be able to drive. My mom get's screwed for life because she took the only job available at that time to pay the bills for being a single mom raising 6 kids. No real formal education and 20 years in one job. Who's going to hire her after that?

Most of the truckers frustrations comes when you get cut off constantly. If you're not careful, you let your emotions start driving you. That's when "regular" drivers end up making phonecalls.

Who can truckers call? You think the State Patrol is going to sympathize with a trucker because a vehicle cut them off? You think DoT gives a damn? Who dispatches personal vehicles?

When you (general, not specific) get stupid, who can I call to get you fired from your driving career? The odds are stacked against truck drivers.

Then again, I just don't sympathize with stupid. A trucker being stupid, deserves what he gets. Same with a "lil regular".

Godfather
08-13-2008, 06:38 PM
Don't they have some kind of black box on commercial trucks? At least you could prove you weren't speeding, and there's usually evidence if someone was changing lanes when they got hit.

They should also have dashcams on big rigs. Then there would be a videotape of the other guy being an idiot.

My point with Michael Hingle was really just that there are cases where people have a legit claim and suffered a lot of damage.

BTW, who's the hottie in your avatar?

xfl2001fan
08-13-2008, 06:44 PM
Don't they have some kind of black box on commercial trucks? At least you could prove you weren't speeding, and there's usually evidence if someone was changing lanes when they got hit.

They should also have dashcams on big rigs. Then there would be a videotape of the other guy being an idiot.

My point with Michael Hingle was really just that there are cases where people have a legit claim and suffered a lot of damage.

BTW, who's the hottie in your avatar?

Most of the trucks now have computer's in them that you have to program to run your route. It also let's you know when you've been on the road to long and wont' let you start before the "mandatory rest" time is up. It's getting harder for truckers to break the rules.

What do you do when a vehicle changes lanes and then hit's the brakes? If you're doing the speed limit, it comes down to your word against theirs. There are several insurance scams that revolve around this very dangerous scheme.

When dash-cams become regular practice, the price of all goods will go up. The consumer will (in the end) eat that cost.

You're right, there are legit claims.

The avatar, is just some internet hotty I found when searching for Browns pictures. Figured she'd be a great way to represent my team.

HometownGal
08-13-2008, 06:56 PM
There are PI attorneys and there are PI attorneys. When the JD's are passed out every spring, what do you thnk happens to the kids NOT in the top 20% of the best schools? A lot of them become ambulance chasers, advertising to the unemployed how they can win their own personal little lotto.

Just like anything, everything in moderation. There are probably 100X more PI attorneys than we actually need, and that dragon needs fed...

I've worked with many PI attorneys over the years and the small percentage that are shitbags give the rest a bad name, quite honestly. I think the same applies to just about every profession, including doctors. The majority of attorneys are good, honest people who want to present the most straight-forward case possible for their client(s) and get them the settlement they feel they deserve and the rest are cold-hearted vampires trying to suck the last drop of blood out of their clients (and in some PI and med-mal cases - out of the insurance companies).

Lawyers are definitely a rare breed - I can say that with the utmost certainty :chuckle:, but out of the multitudes I have worked with and for over the years, there are only a handful who I felt were dishonest assbags not deserving of a mouthful of wee if they were dying in the desert.

Preacher
08-13-2008, 07:05 PM
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stlrtruck
08-13-2008, 09:09 PM
I've seen more idiotic drivers in sports cars and on motorcycles than I have in a rig.