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El-Gonzo Jackson
08-23-2008, 12:55 AM
Here is a list of a some 2009 free agents next year in the event that we lose both Smith and Starks to free agency.

Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OG P.J. Alexander UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
OG D'Anthony Batiste UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT Jordan Black UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Mike Brisiel ERFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OL Rashad Butler RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Vernon Carey UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
OG Cooper Carlisle UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Richard Collier RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OT Marc Colombo UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
OT Willie Colon RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OG Harvey Dahl UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT Anthony Davis UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
OL Frank Davis RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Damane Duckett UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OT Patrick Estes UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OL Jahri Evans RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Dan Federkeil RFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
OG Kynan Forney UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT George Foster UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Renardo Foster UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OG Mike Goff UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OG Chris Gray UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Eric Heitmann UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Russ Hochstein UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
OG Richie Incognito UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Adrian Jones UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
OG Pete Kendall UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
OG Matt Lehr UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
OL Will Montgomery RFA New York Jets Free Agent
OL Chris Morris RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OT Chad Mustard UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
OT Frank Omiyale UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
OT Mike Otto RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
OL Tony Palmer RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Jeremy Parquet RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT Terrance Pennington UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Jon Runyan UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OG Blaine Saipaia UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Jonathan Scott RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OG Mark Setterstrom RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Marvel Smith UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT John St. Clair UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
OT Jon Stinchcomb UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Zach Strief RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Mark Tauscher UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Tra Thomas UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Seth Wand UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Chris L. White UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Ray Willis UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Tony Wragge RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Scott Young UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Age

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=OL&y=2009

Of them the best OT's that I think can play LT are Marc Colombo, Tra Thomas and .....not many.

Anybody got a suggestion who should protect Ben's blind side next season??? Best I can think is it will be a rookie if its not gonna be Smith or Columbo.

stlrtruck
08-23-2008, 01:31 AM
thanks for the list....I'll have to review it later and get back to you my suggestions IF Smith were to leave.

CantStop85
08-23-2008, 01:33 AM
Here is a list of a some 2009 free agents next year in the event that we lose both Smith and Starks to free agency.

Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OG P.J. Alexander UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
OG D'Anthony Batiste UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT Jordan Black UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Mike Brisiel ERFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OL Rashad Butler RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Vernon Carey UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
OG Cooper Carlisle UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Richard Collier RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OT Marc Colombo UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
OT Willie Colon RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OG Harvey Dahl UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT Anthony Davis UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
OL Frank Davis RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Damane Duckett UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OT Patrick Estes UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OL Jahri Evans RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Dan Federkeil RFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
OG Kynan Forney UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT George Foster UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Renardo Foster UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OG Mike Goff UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OG Chris Gray UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Eric Heitmann UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Russ Hochstein UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
OG Richie Incognito UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Adrian Jones UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
OG Pete Kendall UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
OG Matt Lehr UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
OL Will Montgomery RFA New York Jets Free Agent
OL Chris Morris RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OT Chad Mustard UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
OT Frank Omiyale UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
OT Mike Otto RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
OL Tony Palmer RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Jeremy Parquet RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT Terrance Pennington UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Jon Runyan UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OG Blaine Saipaia UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Jonathan Scott RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OG Mark Setterstrom RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Marvel Smith UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT John St. Clair UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
OT Jon Stinchcomb UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Zach Strief RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Mark Tauscher UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Tra Thomas UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OT Seth Wand UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Chris L. White UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Ray Willis UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Tony Wragge RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Scott Young UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Age

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=OL&y=2009

Of them the best OT's that I think can play LT are Marc Colombo, Tra Thomas and .....not many.

Anybody got a suggestion who should protect Ben's blind side next season??? Best I can think is it will be a rookie if its not gonna be Smith or Columbo.

Jordan Gross, Mark Tauscher, and Stacy Andrews are all very good as well. Though I think Andrews will be resigned, Gross and Tauscher will probably end up hitting the market. Tauscher would probably be the best value.

The Duke
08-23-2008, 01:34 AM
Vernon Carey and Marc Colombo are the ones that stand out to me

jon runyan too but....he's obviously too old

other than that it doesn't look that good

is it that crazy to think the steelers might use the tag on marvel? it doesn't sound like something they'd do, but if a new LT is to be groomed for the position they need someone for at least a season

maybe smith will surprise us with a healthy season and sign a contract next year

Haiku_Dirtt
08-23-2008, 01:43 AM
Can we start a thread about potential NCAA prospects?

Maybe I don't get it. But don't we have plenty of openings now? So if they don't work under THESE cirumstances then when would they work?

Riddle me this.

Is it harder to find a cheap mortgage or a Pro Bowl left tackle? We should be thankful that Kevin Colbert isn't the guy who is willing to buy subprime for the trenches. WE NEED TO BE PATIENT.

That sucks! So in that context what college players have NFL muster?

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-23-2008, 11:33 AM
Yeah, Stacy Andrews and Jon Runyan are RT, not really an option to me, Vernon Carey has played LT, but the Dolphins thought so much of him that they drafted Jake Long.

The only viable options that I see that may or may not be an upgrade over Marvel Smith are Jordan Gross or Marc Columbo. Columbo is 29 and Smith is 30, so not much of a young upgrade.

Everybody keeps saying Smith Sucks and he can be replaced, but nobody on these boards can really name a guy that could be had for less $$ and is an upgrade. I think he either needs to be extended or we expect a rookie LT to be drafted.

Texasteel
08-23-2008, 11:37 AM
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=OL&y=2009

Of them the best OT's that I think can play LT are Marc Colombo, Tra Thomas and .....not many.

Anybody got a suggestion who should protect Ben's blind side next season??? Best I can think is it will be a rookie if its not gonna be Smith or Columbo.

I think there is a couple there that would help greatly, just don't know if the Steelers would spend enough to get them.

Elvis
08-23-2008, 03:05 PM
This is something I dont understand about the obsurd resigning of a 33 year old LB named Farrior. I love Farrior and what he brings to our football team.. But we have Marvell Smith at LT and he is really in his prime right now.. Now, maybe I am wrong but I think our front office had their priorities confused.
We have Lawrence Timmons that is ready to take the next step to starting this season, why not let Farrior play out the season and let Timmons get some experience and go from there next offseason? I really dont think Farrior would be the kind that would have left for big money... he loves pittsburgh and wants to stay there.
Ok.. I know a lot are gonna dissagree with me and I am used that lol... but maybe the Steelers could have just signed him for 2 more years instead of 5 and less $$$
:noidea:

Aussie_steeler
08-24-2008, 04:39 AM
... but maybe the Steelers could have just signed him for 2 more years instead of 5 and less $$$
:noidea:

I think his contract is so front loaded that he is going to cost peanuts for the last three years if he chooses to hang around as a back up player.

This contract reads like a mates deal. I'll scratch your back now ( steelers hand out a great bonus) and you scratch mine later ( farrior plays a year or two for next to nothing against the cap in the last years of the contract)

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-24-2008, 08:34 PM
I think his contract is so front loaded that he is going to cost peanuts for the last three years if he chooses to hang around as a back up player.

This contract reads like a mates deal. I'll scratch your back now ( steelers hand out a great bonus) and you scratch mine later ( farrior plays a year or two for next to nothing against the cap in the last years of the contract)

Yeah, you are pretty much right. The signing bonus gets spread out evenly throughout the contract and Farriors last year is pretty large, so its almost a guarantee that he wont be around to collect the final year or 2.

Its a good deal, but I still wonder what the plan is for a starting LT in '09 and beyond??

lilyoder6
08-24-2008, 08:56 PM
maybe tony hills will suprise evryone and show he can start at lt next yr.. that would be nice if he could... just have to see how the nfl and ncaa season plays out

rbryan
08-25-2008, 09:22 AM
Steelers may go after OL help in FA but I wouldn't hold my breath for any big names. If the general conscensous is that players like Marvel Smith are going to command big bucks, that doesn't bode well for what you can expect to get for your $.

I don't see how we can possibly have another draft where both the OL/DL are not a priority, but then again I thought that this year.

Steeldude
08-31-2008, 09:08 AM
why isn't OT jordan gross on that list?

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/fa/ol.html

with the release of starks and smith next season, the steelers should have the room to sign jordan gross. he is a former 1st round pick in 2003. he started for the panthers since day one. that was the O-line that helped the panthers to SB 38.

here is his bio http://www.panthers.com/Team/PlayerBio.aspx?id=7516

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-01-2008, 04:09 PM
Yeah, Gross should be considered. Gross is talented and athletic, but the only thing I dont like about him is he never had that big thick lower body to get good leg drive in the running game.

Probably a better pass blocker than Smith, but not a better run blocker...IMO.

I still wouldnt be disappointed if we got Gross. I cant see the Steelers paying enough to get him though.

Rhee Rhee
11-10-2008, 02:50 AM
jahri evans stood out to me... he may fly under the radar and has experience at RG and could possibly play C depending on how well hartwig does the remainder of the season...

MasterOfPuppets
11-10-2008, 10:31 AM
OL
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
OT Jordan Black UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Mike Brisiel ERFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OL Rashad Butler RFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Vernon Carey UFA Miami Dolphins Free Agent
OG Cooper Carlisle UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Richard Collier RFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OT Marc Colombo UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
OT Willie Colon RFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OG Harvey Dahl UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OT Anthony Davis UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
OL Damane Duckett UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OL Jahri Evans RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Dan Federkeil RFA Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
OT George Foster UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OL Renardo Foster UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
OG Mike Goff UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
OG Chris Gray UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Eric Heitmann UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
OG Russ Hochstein UFA New England Patriots Free Agent
OG Richie Incognito UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Adrian Jones UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
OG Pete Kendall UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
OG Seth McKinney UFA Cleveland Browns Free Agent
OL Chris Morris RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OT Frank Omiyale UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
OT Mike Otto RFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
OL Tony Palmer RFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
OT Jon Runyan UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OG Blaine Saipaia UFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
OG Mark Setterstrom RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
OT Marvel Smith UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
OT John St. Clair UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
OT Jon Stinchcomb UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OL Zach Strief RFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
OT Mark Tauscher UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
OT Tra Thomas UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
OG Fred Weary UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Chris L. White UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
OT Ray Willis UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
OG Tony Wragge RFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-10-2008, 12:24 PM
MOP, great find on the list. I think Jordan Gross too is set to hit the FA market.

There are a lot of guys on that list that can upgrade the Steelers. Especially experienced RT's like

Marc Columbo, Tauscher, Vernon Carey, Jon Stinchcomb, Runyan. Unfortunately I dont know if I see a lot of LT's on the list other than Gross, St. Clair and the rather old Tra Thomas.

I think that Smith and Starks will go and the Steelers will not only draft an OT, but also pick one up in FA to compete for a starting job. I'd love to see St Clair signed to play LT and a Rookie drafted to compete with Hills for RT job, with Colon moving inside.