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Crushzilla
08-24-2008, 01:29 PM
Talking about Alex Smith before, it seems that Matt Leinart is also about to lose a job that would have EASILY been his if he had just inspired SOME hope.

REPORT: LEINART LOSING HIS GIG
Posted by Mike Florio on August 24, 2008, 12:35 p.m. EDT

As it turns out, four completions and three interceptions in the team’s third preseason game are enough to get the Cardinals to make a change at the top of the quarterback depth chart.

According to Chris Mortensen of ESPN, the Cards are expected to name Kurt Warner the starting quarterback for the start of the 2008 regular season.

An unnamed source told Mort that “Leinart’s training-camp performance has been uneven, and the Cardinals are concerned about his arm strength and consistency.”

Leinart was the tenth overall pick in the 2006 draft, selected seven spots after Vince Young of the Titans and one spot before Jay Cutler of the Broncos. Currently, Cutler looks to be the best of the trio.

The move, if it happens and if it sticks, also means that the Cardinals likely will be looking for another quarterback of the future, as soon as the 2009 draft. The fundamental problem is that Leinart was picked by the Denny Green regime, and Whisenhunt has decided in one year and some change that Leinart isn’t the guy. Whisenhunt isn’t likely to change his mind, unless Warner gets hurt or benched and Leinart lights it up.

For now, it’s late-career rebirth for the 37-year-old Warner, who started eleven games in 2007 after Leinart suffered a broken collarbone. In his three seasons with the Cardinals, he has started 26 games.

Warner was the league’s MVP in 1999 and 2001, but injuries and a spotty relationship with Rams coach Mike Martz ended Warner’s career there.

Before Leinart’s injury, he was the starter and Warner came off the bench when the offense was struggling, to the chagrin of Leinart.

It’ll be interesting to see how Leinart reacts to this development. Though Alex Smith, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2005 draft, seems to be taking his benching in stride, Leinart might start clamoring for a trade.

Warner is in the final year of his contract with the Cardinals, at a base salary of $4 million.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/08/24/report-leinart-losing-his-gig/

The big difference here, from San Fran's situation, is that the Cardinals actually have offensive weapons, including, perhaps, the finest one-two punch at wideout.

I agree that we will probably see some pouting and "clamoring" from the former Heisman winner.

The Duke
08-24-2008, 01:41 PM
The big difference here, from San Fran's situation, is that the Cardinals actually have offensive weapons, including, perhaps, the finest one-two punch at wideout.

I agree that we will probably see some pouting and "clamoring" from the former Heisman winner.

that's what worries me about leinart. he should be an average qb at least

he's started for half a season and spent injured most of another. now he can't even in the starting job. sucks to be him

Godfather
08-24-2008, 01:53 PM
sucks to be him

Sucks to be him? He's a multimillionaire and spends all his time hanging out with celebrities and banging groupies.

As far as being a bust, it's too soon to say. He deserves a mulligan for last year with the injury. I'd let him finish his rookie contract before I'd apply the bust label. Just look at Eli--halfway through last year he threw three pick-sixes in one game and had the worst career passer rating of the four first round QBs. Now he has a ring. Leinart could still have a breakthrough season too.

X-Terminator
08-24-2008, 02:33 PM
Sucks to be him? He's a multimillionaire and spends all his time hanging out with celebrities and banging groupies.

And that right there is Leinart's problem. He needs to stop spending so much time hanging out with celebrities and banging groupies and start spending more time on improving at his job. Otherwise, he's going to go the way of Ryan Leaf and be out of football within the next 3 years.

rbryan
08-24-2008, 02:41 PM
Hanging out with celebrities and banging groupies sounds like a tough habit to break...lol

It takes a true professional to pull that off and still be good at whatever you do for a living. I'm willing to give it a shot.

millwalldavey
08-24-2008, 04:42 PM
Arizona just seems like the black hole of the NFL.

The Duke
08-24-2008, 05:10 PM
And that right there is Leinart's problem. He needs to stop spending so much time hanging out with celebrities and banging groupies and start spending more time on improving at his job.

exactly. it's cool to party and stuff, but he's an NFL QB. his team expects way more from him

that said, he can still improve. it's just his 3rd year. manning turned it around in his 4th....

Arizona just seems like the black hole of the NFL.

weird thing is, they are actually improving. with some help on defense they could give the hawks a run for the nfc west

Steelman16
08-24-2008, 05:26 PM
I'm giving Matt another year or so to prove himself otherwise, but my stakes aren't very high. I don't like the guy or the school he played for, but I also don't like to see first round talent go to waste like that.

fansince'76
08-24-2008, 05:27 PM
As far as being a bust, it's too soon to say. He deserves a mulligan for last year with the injury. I'd let him finish his rookie contract before I'd apply the bust label. Just look at Eli--halfway through last year he threw three pick-sixes in one game and had the worst career passer rating of the four first round QBs. Now he has a ring. Leinart could still have a breakthrough season too.

Agreed - just a bit early to make the "bust" declaration yet, but it's not looking real promising for him.

silver & black
08-24-2008, 06:35 PM
Arizona just seems like the black hole of the NFL.

Hmmm.... and I thought that was Oakland... literally, and figuratively. :sofunny:

lilyoder6
08-24-2008, 09:05 PM
well last yr did end shortly 4 leinhart... i think he needs to get away from the glamor of being a usc QB and start playing qb.. he is good and justs needs to work on it and not bitch

RoethlisBURGHer
08-24-2008, 10:53 PM
Here are Leinarts main problems:

1. He's to enamored with the celebrity lifestyle. He's more worried about which girl he's gonna bang that night than he is about football.

2. He seems to have it in his head that he's entitled to things in the NFL because he played quarterback at USC and won a Heisman.

3. He was drafted by the Dennis Greene regime, not the Ken Whisenhut regime, so he won't be given much slack (if any) by his head coach.

He still has a chance to turn it around in Arizona. Warner is very inury prone, so it's not like he's being replaced by Brett Favre. But his time is almost up, after next season he may be out of the Cardinals orgiization.

And this is totally different from the Alex Smith dibacle in San Fransisco. I think Alex Smith can be successful if put in a place with a stable team structure. Im not sure Leinart can succeed anywhere if he doesn't pull his head out of his arse.

Galax Steeler
08-25-2008, 05:06 AM
Like someone stated above give him one more year and see where he is at and if not improved label him as a bust and he can go partying and banging groupies all he wants.

Tankus_Maximus
08-25-2008, 09:35 AM
Arizona just seems like the black hole of the NFL.

And Cincy is the Bermuda Triangle of the NFL.

rbryan
08-25-2008, 09:56 AM
The only thing I can be sure of after reading this thread is that everyone really likes using the phrase "banging groupies" .....lol

Dino 6 Rings
08-25-2008, 10:18 AM
USC QBs don't impress me. There is a huge difference passing against a Pac 10 defense as opposed to an NFL Defense. Reality check for these Heisman winners from USC.