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Preacher
08-28-2008, 03:29 PM
Ok, here is a little test.

Can you actually find something positive from the candidate you are voting AGAINST, or are you so biased that you think one side has EVERYTHING wrong and the other has EVERYTHING right, to the point you can't even compliment your opposing candidate?


Me, as it now stands, my vote for McCain is about a 70% probability, downgraded from an almost certainty a few weeks ago based on his idiotic campaigning.

So what 3 things can I say about Obama that is positive and substantive?

1. He seems to have a natural leadership quality which electrifies those with him.

2. While I hold that pretty much ALL politicians pander, for some reason, I trust Obama has integrity at a base level, something which many on both sides of the isle are lacking.

3. For the first time since 1988, I feel that a dem candidate has the NATIONS best interests at heart, not his or the dems or the worlds, but this nations interests. Sure, he feels that the dems way is the best way, and to get them in power is the best for America, but that is because of what is best for America.


There are three of mine.... positives for the candidate I am voting against.

We probably won't agree on policies of the other guy... but can we rise above the pettiness and incessant party blindedness to see the other guy as a human being with good qualities?

Let's find out.

NJarhead
08-28-2008, 03:37 PM
I'll be honest, and this is about as political as I will get in this forum. McCain is not the best candidate the Reps ever had. But HE IS the unObama. I need no other reason to give him my vote.

MACH1
08-28-2008, 03:43 PM
I'll probly vote for McCain unless something drastic happens between now and then.

As far as Obama goes he's a good talker. Other than that he's going to be nancy pelosi's puppet. He's already showed he can be pushed around.

Preacher
08-28-2008, 04:13 PM
Um...

what I am looking for here is to see people think through the OTHER GUY and be able to state things they like about the OTHER guy...

NJarhead
08-28-2008, 04:16 PM
Um...

what I am looking for here is to see people think through the OTHER GUY and be able to state things they like about the OTHER guy...

In past elections, I think I could have done that....but not this one. Well, having taken a few public speaking classes I admire Obama's ability to do it though.

Not trying to be a smart ass here either Preach, which is why I'll leave this thread alone after this.

Dino 6 Rings
08-28-2008, 04:39 PM
I have something Positive to say about the person I'm not going to vote for...

He wears very nice suits.

Godfather
08-28-2008, 04:44 PM
Give Obama a lot of credit for overcoming his disadvantages growing up. There were times he was poor enough to qualify for food stamps, but he made it to Columbia and Harvard.

Dino 6 Rings
08-28-2008, 04:50 PM
The person I am not voting for did in fact take down the one person I would have gone out and voted against.

tony hipchest
08-28-2008, 05:38 PM
good luck with this one preach....

but it has obama bashfest written all over it.

what? the Positive attributes of romeo crennell and marvin lewis thread wasnt good enough for you? :chuckle:

since im leaning towards obama (yet still undecided) i will start with mccain.

seems to be a no holds barred, no nonsense, strong willed leader.

seems to be a fighter with a thick spine.

doesnt have to toe the party line. seems much more flexible than what i usually see from the right. reminds me of former NM governor gary johnson.

hails from the great southwest and the beautiful state of arizona.

bravery. put up a fight in a country where millions wanted to see him dead.

obama-

hope that he could be the political version of mike tomlin.

gotta love the youthful gusto.

seems like he could easilly get people to "buy in" and rally behind him. seems to be the type of person who can draw out the absolute best from the people who surround him.

when he talks people listen.

bravery. putting up a fight in a country where millions of people wanna see him dead.

Preacher
08-28-2008, 09:52 PM
bravery. putting up a fight in a country where millions of people wanna see him dead.


Uh hum...


A little over the top maybe?

tony hipchest
08-28-2008, 11:25 PM
Uh hum...


A little over the top maybe?

maybe. but maybe not.

im pretty sure i could go out and talk to 100 random people and find atleast 1 who wouldnt mind if he took a bullet to the head tomorrow.

i even started a poll on this very board that suggested as much.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=26385 (2 out of 15 is very telling and pretty scary)

3 million poeple in a country of 300 million = 1%

6 million = 2%

9 million = 3%

very well could be that 3 percent of our nation wouldnt give a rats ass.

whats 2 out of 15? about 12-13%? thats about 37-39 million if extrapolated, right?

augustashark
08-29-2008, 02:41 AM
maybe. but maybe not.

im pretty sure i could go out and talk to 100 random people and find atleast 1 who wouldnt mind if he took a bullet to the head tomorrow.
i even started a poll on this very board that suggested as much.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=26385 (2 out of 15 is very telling and pretty scary)

3 million poeple in a country of 300 million = 1%

6 million = 2%

9 million = 3%

very well could be that 3 percent of our nation wouldnt give a rats ass.

whats 2 out of 15? about 12-13%? thats about 37-39 million if extrapolated, right?


LOL, I could find one in a hundred that would like to see McCain take a bullet also. Job well done.:hatsoff:

stlrtruck
08-29-2008, 08:01 AM
I'm sure you could probably find 1 in 100 that wanted them both to take a bullet...

Just sayin'

revefsreleets
08-29-2008, 08:30 AM
I've said plenty of nice things about Obama, so I'm recusing myself from this thread...