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Mosca
09-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Snopes calls it "TRUE", btw. It was verified as real.


Part 1:

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992. Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her father was my child’s favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and won’t vote for her can’t quit smiling when talking about her because she is a “babe”.

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents for seven months. She is “pro-life”. She recently gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby. There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby. She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn’t take positions; she just “puts things out there” and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit. Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything like that of native Alaskans. Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters. She’s smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000 (at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about 670,000 residents. During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was still in litigation 7 yrs later–to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once. These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city. As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today’s surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideasor compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of “old boys”. Palin fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people, creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally grateful and fiercely loyal–loyal to the point of abusing their power to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job.

In a gutsy move which some undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit, exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative action restored most of these projects–which had been vetoed simply because she was not aware of their importance–but with the unobservant she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.

They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah’s mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked toglobal warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar bears as threatened species.

Mosca
09-06-2008, 02:17 PM
part 2:


McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a heartbeat away from being President. There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more knowledgeable and experienced than she. However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are regretting it.

CLAIM VS FACT

•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years
•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary school, not since
•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships (said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to promote it.
•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation
•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska. No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on residents
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city government in Wasilla’s history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny + Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100 or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

CAVEATS

I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor) from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of Wasilla, and I can’t recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible for a private person to get any info out of City Hall–they are swamped. So I can’t verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the population of Wasilla, ranging from my “about 5,000″, up to 9,000. The day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was 5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.

MACH1
09-06-2008, 02:27 PM
As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated” her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska’s top cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure and she had every legal right to fire him, but it’s pretty clear that an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn’t fire her sister’s ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law.

What they fail to mention in this part is that her sisters ex like to punish they're 11 year old with a TAZER. If that kid as so much looked at him funny he got tazed. The coward deserved to get fired.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/476430.html

stillers4me
09-06-2008, 02:36 PM
Sounds like someone got beat out for prom queen. :sofunny:

She has an 80% approval rating from the citizens of Alaska.

stillers4me
09-06-2008, 02:46 PM
she is immensely popular here

she has hated me since back in 1996

That about says it all. But then I guess she's a more credible source for facts and figures than a rag called the Wallstreet Journal. :hunch:

In the end, the voters will decide. And we all have to live with it.

GBMelBlount
09-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Sounds like someone got beat out for prom queen. :sofunny:


It certainly does. I can't believe some of the stories my wife has told me about what girls did to her in high school.

That being said, certainly some of the points on borrowing unwisely, etc. may be valid concerns. However, It is only natural for people to make mistakes as they grow into a new job and make decisions like that for the first time. Hopefully she has learned from any mistakes. Thankfully though, she at least has some experience.....

millwalldavey
09-06-2008, 03:20 PM
What scares me about both tickets most may be the VP candidates.

Based on actual job experience (read: service in years and levels of government) I'd lean toward Biden over Palin. When it comes down to actual issues, I couldn't agree with either wholeheartedly.

This letter does wreak a bit of "sour grapes", however I sure there is a ring of truth to a great deal of what has been written. In the quest for power a lot of bridges get burned. Let's check her merits before we elevate her to some kind of hero.

The one thing I read that stuuck out was at the beginning of part 2. I think that this may be a point in history where we will be closer than ever to the possibility of having a VP take over for some reason or another either way things go. Do we really want either of these people running our country in the case of a disaster?

We could of course look for ohther qualified persons to lead our contry elsewhere but most of us do not want to do the work.

Mosca
09-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Sounds like someone got beat out for prom queen. :sofunny:


LOL, that's what I thought, too.

But still; due diligence would mean that there would have been a plan in place for this sort of thing.

tony hipchest
09-06-2008, 05:32 PM
im sure this letter has tons of credibility to it. even in the non government political arena, small towns have a ton of social politics that drive it.

anne kilkenny isnt the first one to speak out and most certainly wont be the last. (especially if the state finally rids itself of the "barracuda" or as i prefer- the "snake in the snow".

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080905/pl_politico/13190

Palin's cold shoulder

WASILLA, Alaska — While Sarah Palin’s supporters tout her personal warmth and openness, the newly minted Republican vice presidential nominee can be brusque to allies, advisers and employees who fall from her favor.

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Palin has unceremoniously ended relationships with an aide who was dating a family friend’s soon-to-be ex-wife, a campaign adviser whose mother-in-law fought Palin’s legislative agenda, a local political mentor who she felt represented the “old boys' network,” a police chief who she said tried to intimidate her with “stern look[s]” and a state commissioner who refused to fire her sister’s ex-husband.

“When she decides you’re done, you’re done,” said John Bitney, who was a top aide to Palin’s gubernatorial campaign and administration.

Bitney, a longtime state Capitol hand who grew up in this small town with Palin and her husband, Todd, said he was asked to leave his job as legislative director in the governor’s office last year after the Palins found out that he was dating the soon-to-be-ex-wife of one of Todd’s good friends.

While Palin’s office framed the departure as an “amicable” mutual decision, Bitney told Politico that Sarah and Todd Palin “were upset with me about my divorce and who I was dating, and they didn’t want that in the governor’s office. I wanted to stay with the governor and support the governor — we’re talking about someone who’s been a friend for 30 years — but I understood it, and I have no ax to grind over the whole thing.”

Still, Bitney took a line from the "Seinfeld" character Elaine, deeming Palin “a bad breaker-upper.” :chuckle:

Palin’s abrupt and often unexplained — or not fully explained — dismissals, though, leave former colleagues and political observers speculating about the “real reasons,” Bitney said, adding that Palin's style “is more dramatic than the way most executives do it. They bring you in, tell you they’re going to go in another direction and get everyone in the office to sign a card and cut a cake. But that’s just not her style.”

The McCain-Palin campaign declined to answer questions about Palin’s personnel moves or personal rifts. Her supporters in Wasilla — a group that seems to include an overwhelming majority of the city’s 7,000 or so residents — say she is guided by the taxpayers’ interests and a strong moral compass.


plain and simple palin is a bitch. those who knew (and even liked) her know it. i know it. she knows it. she flaunts it and is proud of it.

whyelse would she champion herself as a female bulldog?

xfl2001fan
09-06-2008, 05:43 PM
Being a bitch isn't a crime.

To be a good supply sergeant in the military, you have to be able to be an asshole. Plain and simple. You can't just be everyone's friend.

One of the people in my office is a self-proclaimed (and proud) bitch. She's a single mom and knows how to get things done. She's far from the most technically proficient person on my staff, she's far from the most experienced, but when I need something done, I turn to her.

There are times when experience/talent are overcome by work ethic and willingness to make a decision.

tony hipchest
09-06-2008, 05:49 PM
Being a bitch isn't a crime.


There are times when experience/talent are overcome by work ethic and willingness to make a decision.nobody said it was.

too bad she has none of the 4 traits you just posted. make a decision? her initiatives consist of flinging poo against a wall and seeing what sticks. work ethic? she hated her $120,000 job cause of the work involved and got out of it. she had an administrator doing most of her work in her other job. :noidea:

Texasteel
09-06-2008, 05:57 PM
This will not be the last of these kind on letters that Obama,,,,,,,,, I'm sorry,,,,,,,,,,,, a concerned citizen will put out. If you can't talk sense, just talk a lot.

xfl2001fan
09-06-2008, 06:03 PM
nobody said it was.

You're right, but it automatically implies a negative connotation.

too bad she has none of the 4 traits you just posted. make a decision? her initiatives consist of flinging poo against a wall and seeing what sticks. work ethic? she hated her $120,000 job cause of the work involved and got out of it. she had an administrator doing most of her work in her other job. :noidea:

And I give you:

Within months of scoring this great job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party) engaged in unethical behavior on the job.

Who told her? Watch how this can work.

This is a total and complete fabrication, but I'm now telling you that she's actually bi-sexual.

The first portion of that phrase completely negates the second portion. However, you can now say you've been told that she's a bi-sexual. You can completely ignore the fact that I'm not a reliable source, you can completely ignore the fact how I started that statement and say that "you've been told".

There's also (after the bolded statement) a good reason to quit. A member of the Commission engaged in unethical behavior. Who wants to be associated with that? When some of my old high school friends turned to drugs and partying, I asked them to stop, or I'd have to step away from our friendship. They didn't stop and I haven't dealt with them since. Nothing wrong with that at all.

tony hipchest
09-06-2008, 06:33 PM
You're right, but it automatically implies a negative connotation.
exactly! which is why i seriously question mccains judgement and especially that of his advisors and campaign managers for encouraging and letting her run with it.

Who told her? Watch how this can work.

This is a total and complete fabrication, but I'm now telling you that she's actually bi-sexual.

The first portion of that phrase completely negates the second portion. However, you can now say you've been told that she's a bi-sexual. You can completely ignore the fact that I'm not a reliable source, you can completely ignore the fact how I started that statement and say that "you've been told".

There's also (after the bolded statement) a good reason to quit. A member of the Commission engaged in unethical behavior. Who wants to be associated with that? When some of my old high school friends turned to drugs and partying, I asked them to stop, or I'd have to step away from our friendship. They didn't stop and I haven't dealt with them since. Nothing wrong with that at allyou dont know her though. somebody who does atleast needs to be listened to. it could be 100% true. but for you to give yourself as much credit as anne is a great example of completely turning a blind eye.. again small town politics. nothing is secret. this lady knows and has known palins family on 1st name basis for a long time. ignore it if you will.

xfl2001fan
09-06-2008, 06:51 PM
I'm not necessarily saying I'm on the same page with personal knowledge as Anne. If it was a direct quote from Palin, wouldn't Anne have mentioned that? All I was trying to do was point out how that can easily be spun. I'm not turning a blind eye. I have yet view any politician that I thought was a 100% godsend and blameless. However, the information you gave (as to why she supposedly quit her lucrative job) was an invalid point to bring up. I showed how it could easily be spun about. It was a smoke and mirrors statement and nothing more.

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exactly! which is why i seriously question mccains judgement and especially that of his advisors and campaign managers for encouraging and letting her run with it.

Anytime a woman shows aggression, she's labeled a bitch. It's nearly automatic. Being a "bitch" is not necessarily a bad thing. I've had other people on my staff say that one of my NCO's is a bitch...as well as the NCO in question. However, she's probably the most reliable staff member I have. She just aggressively get's things done. So are you questioning me having a self-proclaimed bitch on my staff too? Are you questioning my judgement in giving my most important tasks to her? Are you questioning my judgement for ensuring she get's rewarded for her hard word, even though she's stepped on some people's toes to get it done?

Because my Colonel sure as hell doesn't.

You have the opinion of one individual listed. You are turning a blind eye to the 80% approval rating. But why would the left-wing media want to put a positive spin on anything she does? They rarely show the good going on in Iraq, the hospital's built, the schools built.

Palin most certainly stepped on toes, I do it all the time. If you don't want your toes stepped on, keep you feet out of the aisle and quit trying to trip me up.

millwalldavey
09-06-2008, 07:19 PM
If you can't talk sense, just talk a lot.

Exactly! Sounds like the Democrats camp is taking some advice from the Republicans.

revefsreleets
09-06-2008, 07:47 PM
Really?

Some woman who has an axe to grind?

Oh boy...