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wildjames
11-29-2005, 01:08 AM
LOL This is a great night to watch football. The big bad Steelers get SMACKED in the mouth by the Colts, and "Big Ben" has to actually throw the football more than 8 yard outs, and what happens? As of now (game about over) 17 for 26 (I bet his arm hurts from throwing 26 freaking passes, LOL), for 133 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT. WOW. And you can't blame his knee, because he made a couple decent scrambles and runs and did not limp once and looked fine. Let's see what was Carson last week against the Colts? Hmmm... 25 for 38 for 335 yards. 2 TDs and 1 INT. We did lose yes, but we went toe to toe with heads and above the best team in the NFL, punch for punch, and came out on the losing end by one touchdown. Your team couldn't even score a touchdown except when Troy P intercepted it and brought it deep into Colts territory. I bet Cowher was so mad he couldn't just run the football 9 plays out of 10 because his product of a system quarterback can't play shootout football, or heck even lead the team on ONE decent touchdown drive. Why? You have a hand the football off quarterback, and one good WR, and a good TE. That's it. The Bengals 3rd and 4th string WRs would compete for the #1 spot on the Steelers. Yeah you guys play great smash mouth football, but face it, you can't play from behind period.

I know my Bengals also lost to the Colts last week, but there's such thing as quality of a loss, I guess you could say. The Steelers looked awful tonight, and the Bengals were in it until the end, trading punches, score after score with Indy last week. And Fast Willie wasn't too fast tonight getting knocked on the ground during repeated 1 yard runs after another. I loved reading all the beginning posts in the official game thread, as you started out so excited, how it was going to be such a close game and playoff atmosphere, and then your offense goes out and basically lays a goose egg were it not for the exceptional Troy P. And you wonder why most fantasy owners would rather have Kyle Boller than Ben Roethlisberger in their lineup, lol. I'll stick with my top 2 or 3 in the league quarterback, and take my chances.

Hoo Dey Big Ben changing his nickname to Handoff Ben
Hoo Dey Bengals rolling into the Steel City and returning the favor from last month
Hoo Dey Bengals winning the AFC North
Hoo Dey the nation and media realizing how weak Ben actually is

Out

BlitzburghRockCity
11-29-2005, 01:13 AM
Hey guess what..imagine that..a colts fan comes outta the woodwork to gloat and be stupid..

just imagine that..where were u all week when we were building up to this game you dumb ass !! Any fool can come out and talk a bunch of shit after the game... and I can guarantee had u loss, we wouldnt have seen ur worthless ass around here..

wildjames
11-29-2005, 01:21 AM
Hey guess what..imagine that..a colts fan comes outta the woodwork to gloat and be stupid..

just imagine that..where were u all week when we were building up to this game you dumb ass !! Any fool can come out and talk a bunch of shit after the game... and I can guarantee had u loss, we wouldnt have seen ur worthless ass around here..

Hey dude, did you actually read my post? I think not. Let me help you out.

"I know my Bengals also lost to the Colts last week, "

Ok? That's a good boy. Now, try to post again.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-29-2005, 01:43 AM
Read between the lines genious.. if u are a bungals fan.. u were a colts fan this week.

and I say again..where have you been all week trying to play up this game in the colts favor so it benefits your team..

wildjames
11-29-2005, 02:24 AM
Read between the lines genious.. if u are a bungals fan.. u were a colts fan this week.

and I say again..where have you been all week trying to play up this game in the colts favor so it benefits your team..

Well considering you straight up called me a colts fan, yeah I would assume you thought I was. LOL. Where have I been? Um I dont post on forums daily, I like to actually WATCH the games. The fact that I wasn't "here all week playing up the game" takes nothing away from your humiliating defeat.

Koopa
11-29-2005, 02:35 AM
this ain't no bengals fan he's just a dickrider........there are only like two real bengal fans that post on here

Livinginthe past
11-29-2005, 08:07 AM
Well considering you straight up called me a colts fan, yeah I would assume you thought I was. LOL. Where have I been? Um I dont post on forums daily, I like to actually WATCH the games. The fact that I wasn't "here all week playing up the game" takes nothing away from your humiliating defeat.

Hey,

Nice logic there. You dont 'post daily' because you like to actually WATCH games?

So you dont post tuesday- saturday when the games AREN'T ON - but you will post on a monday night when a game is STILL IN PROGRESS?

No-one has any respect for smack talkers who dont turn up until the game is almost done.

NM

Suitanim
11-29-2005, 09:39 AM
The nice thing about this is we get to redeeem ourselves this week and beat the Hell out of the Bungals next week...

I almost feel sorry for them, since they will be the poor team the Steelers take all their frustrations out on...

wildjames
11-29-2005, 01:00 PM
Lol, I dont care if I dont get respect because I dont post on here Tuesday through Saturday. I don't post much, period. But I do like to read forums alot. What I like is that nobody is even defending their big star Big Ben. Why? Because I am absolutely right and you know it. I didn't know a post count determined the validity of someone's actual post. Because I guarantee you the "experts" and most of the country feels the same way too.

tony hipchest
11-29-2005, 02:29 PM
whats great is seeing palmer fans that still have so much ben envy or "benvy". one day your qb may have as many career victories as ben and the heisman winning #1 pick will no longer play 2nd fiddle to the great steeler qb.

just remember as you chirp about bens 3rd loss in his last 3 years of playing football, that you are still a bengal fan and they have already proven they cant beat jacksonville, steelers, colts, and would probably struggle against denver, san diego, the cheifs and their running games. the bengals may roll into the playoffs but the happy to be there attitude will do them in quickly.

wildjames
11-29-2005, 03:05 PM
whats great is seeing palmer fans that still have so much ben envy or "benvy". one day your qb may have as many career victories as ben and the heisman winning #1 pick will no longer play 2nd fiddle to the great steeler qb.

just remember as you chirp about bens 3rd loss in his last 3 years of playing football, that you are still a bengal fan and they have already proven they cant beat jacksonville, steelers, colts, and would probably struggle against denver, san diego, the cheifs and their running games. the bengals may roll into the playoffs but the happy to be there attitude will do them in quickly.

I wonder aloud quite often if anyone actually OUTSIDE of Pittsburgh (except non resident fans) actually think Ben is anywhere near as good as Carson. It is obvious by comparing the Indy games. The ONLY card you Steelers fans can play is how many games he has won/lost. Well, he hasn't DONE anything that any other quarterback who specializes at handing the football off couldn't have done. Let's see the strengths of certain NFL quarterbacks.

Peyton Manning - Reads defenses like a book, makes perfect reads.

Carson Palmer - Heir apparent to Peytons greatness. And it's not just Bengals fans saying that..unlike your quarterback...the rest of the league actually BELIEVES the hype.

Michael Vick - Can beat you with his legs, and his arm, especially in the last few weeks.

Ben Roethlisberger - Hands the ball off. Product of a good system quarterback. The luckiest day of his life was when the Steelers drafted him. Because if he had gone to any team that depends on their quarterback actually passing the football more than 20 times a game regularly, he would've ended up another David Carr. Plays against Indianapolis and his team needs him to step up and make some plays, and he does nothing.

You seriously think I am envious of Ben..."benvy"? LOL. Wow, that's hilarious. Let's see, we have one of the best sets of wide receivers in the NFL. Yeah, I want Ben leading them with his 8 yard out tosses. How I know these things when the actual fans don't is beyond me. Your team has a SMASH MOUTH concept, it is just how it is, and it's a good way to be. It was like that BEFORE Ben got there. So, insert big quarterback who can take a few hits and hand the ball off to a SMASH MOUTH type of team, and win!

I don't care who we lose to, if we lose in big games, no big deal. It's because our defense isn't as smash mouth as yours or others, hopefully we can get there one day. But you don't see Bengals fans harping on how great the defense is when it's potentially one of the poorer defenses, as you do with your quarterback. He's a fantasy bust, and can't throw the football, period, it's just a fact, the same as the Bengals defense can't stop the run.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-29-2005, 04:04 PM
If you remember correctly, Ben is a higher rated passer than Carson before he went down w/ injury.

ben is as good as he is touted and he is as good as we say he is. His record and our team speaks for itself! So please spare us your ridiculous comments.

tony hipchest
11-29-2005, 04:35 PM
I wonder aloud quite often if anyone actually OUTSIDE of Pittsburgh (except non resident fans) actually think Ben is anywhere near as good as Carson. It is obvious by comparing the Indy games. The ONLY card you Steelers fans can play is how many games he has won/lost. Well, he hasn't DONE anything that any other quarterback who specializes at handing the football off couldn't have done. Let's see the strengths of certain NFL quarterbacks.

Peyton Manning - Reads defenses like a book, makes perfect reads.

Carson Palmer - Heir apparent to Peytons greatness. And it's not just Bengals fans saying that..unlike your quarterback...the rest of the league actually BELIEVES the hype.

Michael Vick - Can beat you with his legs, and his arm, especially in the last few weeks.

Ben Roethlisberger - Hands the ball off. Product of a good system quarterback. The luckiest day of his life was when the Steelers drafted him. Because if he had gone to any team that depends on their quarterback actually passing the football more than 20 times a game regularly, he would've ended up another David Carr. Plays against Indianapolis and his team needs him to step up and make some plays, and he does nothing.

You seriously think I am envious of Ben..."benvy"? LOL. Wow, that's hilarious. Let's see, we have one of the best sets of wide receivers in the NFL. Yeah, I want Ben leading them with his 8 yard out tosses. How I know these things when the actual fans don't is beyond me. Your team has a SMASH MOUTH concept, it is just how it is, and it's a good way to be. It was like that BEFORE Ben got there. So, insert big quarterback who can take a few hits and hand the ball off to a SMASH MOUTH type of team, and win!

I don't care who we lose to, if we lose in big games, no big deal. It's because our defense isn't as smash mouth as yours or others, hopefully we can get there one day. But you don't see Bengals fans harping on how great the defense is when it's potentially one of the poorer defenses, as you do with your quarterback. He's a fantasy bust, and can't throw the football, period, it's just a fact, the same as the Bengals defense can't stop the run.

damn youre pretty dense. by youre logic if carson had been drafted by the steelers hed be another maddox. carsons good but easy there with those dilusions of qb grandeur. bengals wouldve made the playoffs the past 2 years if ben was their qb.

clevestinks
11-29-2005, 05:03 PM
It was just a game! Ben was not to blame, but a little rusty,

Props to the Colts.

But I am not impressed

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
11-29-2005, 05:37 PM
18 and 2 in regular season games.....I'll take ben over any quarterback in the league right now to build my franchise around.....Yes there are better qb. out there but ben is young..and i said to build my franchise around.......
Ben has brought the steelers from behind 7 times.........if you take that he has played 20 regular season games and only losing 2 gemes (Pats, and Colts) means that he brought the steelers from behind 7 times and we lost 2. we can say that we were losing 9 games and lost 2 of them.This means that Ben brings us from behind 77.7 percent of the time.......I like thoes odds. Also, to anyone who wants to doubt Ben.....He lost the the Pats and the Colts......two very good team........
STEELERS #1

wildjames
11-29-2005, 05:55 PM
damn youre pretty dense. by youre logic if carson had been drafted by the steelers hed be another maddox. carsons good but easy there with those dilusions of qb grandeur. bengals wouldve made the playoffs the past 2 years if ben was their qb.

Those are ridiculous comments. Not in on way did by my logic even remotely imply that if Carson had been drafted by the Steelers he would've been another Maddox. By my logic, he would've done the same thing (but better) than Ben. Hand the ball off to a smash mouth team, and pass when needed (not often). The Bengals would not have made the playoffs the last 2 years if Ben was their quarterback, that's so funny.

It's an unfortunate situation for you Steeler fans. Yes you lost to the Pats and Colts BIGBENFASTWILLIE, but Ben did NOTHING against the Colts. How many touchdown drives to Carson lead against the "awesome" Colts defense? 6? lol, your quarterback barely got into the end zone on a gift wrapped field position drive by the again awesome Troy P. So...6 TD drives vs basically 0.

And to the poster who said that Bens rating was higher than Carsons before he got hurt. Let's wait till the end of the season, and see who has a higher passer rating. "Stretches" of the season mean nothing to see who is the better quarterback.

And BlitzburghRockCity, that's fine if you think Ben is as good as you and your fans tout him to be. If you don't know already, I am impressed by your teams smash mouth format of playing football, it's a good system. But it was PROVEN last night that 1 dimensional offensive teams have to be playing near perfect, especially to beat a team like the Colts. Your 1 dimensional team was shut down on the run, and Ben (not used to being in the shotgun set on 3rd down, hell barely used to using his arm to throw the football at all), looked so uncomfortable trying to lead his team down the field. But I assure you, 80-85% of fans/teams/owners in this league would MUCH rather have 9 on the field leading their team than Ben, as he can make plays in the passing game. I understand that's hard for you to believe, it's like the Yankees fans and Red Sox fans going at it and neither chooses to believe the hype the opposite fans declare..but hell watch programs like NFL Live and SportsCenter, not that the media isn't shoved down our throats most of our life, because they are. I would venture to say 9 out of 10 of those so called experts rant and rave about Carson Palmer quickly becoming one of the few elite quarterbacks in the league. Being on an awesome team does not make you an elite quarterback, no matter the amount of wins your team gets, as you fans seem to believe. Ben is an 'ok' QB on an awesome TEAM, Carson is an AWESOME quarterback on an great to awesome TEAM.

Look at last weeks Bengals/Colts matchup. We are far superior to the Steelers in passing and wide receiver play, which is why we scored 45 points on them. We also can run the football, maybe not as good as Pitt can, but pretty damn good, especially with Chris Perry to complement Rudi. The Steelers needed to get a lead last night so they could then just hammer Better/Staley/Parker at the Colts and keep Manning off the field, but Manning came out and made Ike Taylor look like he was in high school and BAM, now that format doesn't work for the Steelers. While watching the Bengals game, I was not worried that Manning shredded our defense with TD after TD, because we answered the best team in the league TD for TD basically, just like a prized boxing fight between 2 behemoths. The Steelers have one way. If it doesnt work, they crumble. That's a knock on your coach and your system. Perhaps Ben CAN throw like Carson, who knows...but he doesn't, at least not right now in his career.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-29-2005, 06:06 PM
Look at last weeks Bengals/Colts matchup. We are far superior to the Steelers in passing and wide receiver play, which is why we scored 45 points on them

If you had a defense that could stop anybody, u wouldnt have to throw for all those yards..

Credit us for holding Manning to 2 TD's.. how many did you hold him too??????? oh thats right, u couldnt !!!

Far superior at throwing the ball considering our starting QB missed 3 weeks worth of games and came in against the hottest team the league has seen in a very long time.. We had our chances to win and we didnt need to score 40+ points to do it.

Please stop while your behind...

RoethlisBURGHer
11-29-2005, 07:07 PM
Your Bengals are still gonna get thier asses kicked by the Steelers on Sunday.

CantStop85
11-29-2005, 07:27 PM
Your Bengals are still gonna get thier asses kicked by the Steelers on Sunday.
Convincing argument there, sunshine, but I think the tide has changed since the last steelers-bengals matchup. Seeing how Pittsburgh couldn't stop the Colts offense, I highly doubt that they will be able to stop the Bengals offense either. The Bengals defense is less than spectacular, but if they can get an early lead, it won't really matter because Pittsburgh doesn't have an offense capable of scoring a lot of points. The Steelers biggest advantage against the Bengals (the running game) is hobbled by injuries. I think this is the game where the Bengals finally get that monkey off of their backs.

tony hipchest
11-29-2005, 07:31 PM
Perhaps Ben CAN throw like Carson, who knows...but he doesn't, at least not right now in his career.

and after all of that wildjames FINALLY gets it! thats quite a 180 from saying ben cant throw at all and would be david carr on another team. and perhaps the bengals will one day have a decent defense that doesnt put all the onus of winning on c. palmers shoulders. we see where that has gotten manning. so palmer wouldve done better than 13-0 in 13 starts with the steelers last year? its hard to do better than a 100% win percentage as 1st year starter.

wildjames
11-29-2005, 07:39 PM
If you had a defense that could stop anybody, u wouldnt have to throw for all those yards..

Credit us for holding Manning to 2 TD's.. how many did you hold him too??????? oh thats right, u couldnt !!!

Far superior at throwing the ball considering our starting QB missed 3 weeks worth of games and came in against the hottest team the league has seen in a very long time.. We had our chances to win and we didnt need to score 40+ points to do it.

Please stop while your behind...

Well Matt, thanks for the in depth argument. Of course you think I'm behind, being on your teams forums, I am the stranger here, but it doesn't negate my argument.

Yes you held Manning to 2 TDs..but you COULDNT SCORE ANY. So it makes no difference. We had a much better shot at winning because we just about scored on the Colts at will as they did us. Your team scored on one gift wrapped field position interception.

Yes, far superior at throwing the football, and there isn't a non Steelers fan in the country that would disagree with me. At least I know you have a better ground game than us, well usually, maybe not now. Nice homer job there, can't even admit something that is CLEARLY obvious. It doesn't matter how many games Ben missed, he would'nt have done anything against the Colts if they had played in week 5, because he isn't that type of quarterback.

Your team would be a hell of a lot better if it was more than 1 dimensional. I was just watching a sports show on ESPN this afternoon and the guests were laughing at how Ben attempted to lead the Steelers in a higher scoring type game, and did nothing. They know, we know, just YOU dont know it. They also discussed Carsons chances of winning MVP this year, amazingly Bens name never came up..amazing! I always had respect for your coaching as well until last night, and this year in general, that was just ugly.

1. 4th and 4 and run a QB draw?
2. Going for it so early on 4th?
3. Onside kick to start the second half down what...17-6?
4. The lack of any deep threat whatsoever. Your best WR is a transplanted quarterback, and Randle El is nothing more than Kordell, a quick flash in the pan who won't amount to the hype he was given originally. You have a good TE, better than the Bengals thats for sure, but it's not nearly enough.

I imagined Cowhers thought process at halftime.

"Well I have a quarterback who was hurt, and a team who is built to play with the lead. We dont have the lead, and I am unsure of Bens ability to come back from this huge 11 point lead. I know an 11 point lead is like most teams being down 20+ points, so let's try some trickery!"

But of course it doesn't work and you give who will probably be the best quarterback of all time the ball in your territory. Nice job Bill, hopefully most of your team was wearing those spit shields the fans in the RCA dome were wearing last night.

Cheers to the Bengals getting over the hump and putting Pittsburgh out of the playoffs with a win next week at Heinz Field, and cheers to Ben having his arm put on ice until at least Wednesday for having to throw the ball so much.

tony hipchest
11-29-2005, 07:40 PM
Convincing argument there, sunshine, but I think the tide has changed since the last steelers-bengals matchup. Seeing how Pittsburgh couldn't stop the Colts offense, I highly doubt that they will be able to stop the Bengals offense either. The Bengals defense is less than spectacular, but if they can get an early lead, it won't really matter because Pittsburgh doesn't have an offense capable of scoring a lot of points. The Steelers biggest advantage against the Bengals (the running game) is hobbled by injuries. I think this is the game where the Bengals finally get that monkey off of their backs.
and maybe if the bengalfans at the game are loud enough the steelers will have 5 false start penalties. and maybe c. johnson has practiced and rehearsed for 3 end zone celebration this week. who cares. its the same stories, teams, hopes and wishful thinking as before the last meeting. the tides havent turned. so your team is 1 game ahead in the standings again. your bobbing in the water barely staying afloat.

wildjames
11-29-2005, 07:47 PM
and after all of that wildjames FINALLY gets it! thats quite a 180 from saying ben cant throw at all and would be david carr on another team. and perhaps the bengals will one day have a decent defense that doesnt put all the onus of winning on c. palmers shoulders. we see where that has gotten manning. so palmer wouldve done better than 13-0 in 13 starts with the steelers last year? its hard to do better than a 100% win percentage as 1st year starter.

It's not a 180. I still don't think he can, or ever will be an elite passer in this league. I think PERHAPS he can, sorry I felt bad for your fans and wanted to lighten up a little. The Bengals defense is much better than recent memory, we have a rookie named Odell Thurman who is going to be a monster in a few years at middle linebacker, if you have seen him play at all, he is quite amazing for a rookie. He blasted Jamal Lewis and Boller repeatedly on Sunday. Once he learns to calm down a little and not be so aggressive (not a bad thing), he will be great.

You fans are SO stuck on Bens 13-0 start last year. It is already starting to sound like those fools from 1972 that lift the champagne glasses every year when the last undefeated team wins. NOBODY cares about that anymore. And yes, Carson would've done about the same as Ben last year had he been on Pitts, and that would be, not do much just don't make mistakes. Once you get off your high horse of your quarterback starting so high when 75-80% of the reason is your TEAMS smash mouth ability and your GOOD DEFENSE. I wish I could've read the forums back in what..2000?...when Baltimore went to the Superbowl with Trent Dilfer at quarterback. Not that Ben is as weak as Dilfer was, but he's pretty close. Let's see

1. Weak WR corps? Check
2. Good tight end? Check
3. Smash mouth running game? Check
4. Scary as hell, in your face defense? Check

Not much difference there to compare the two teams. And I guarantee you if the Ravens had won so many games in a row and Dilfer had happened to be a rookie, oh wow he's the best thing since Joe Montana, when actually he had little to do with it except manufacture wins and not make mistakes. So do yourself a favor and look at the actual stats, because you're not going to be winning any more 13 in a row, your little escapade is far over, and once you get over that, you'll be much better off.

CantStop85
11-30-2005, 06:40 PM
and maybe if the bengalfans at the game are loud enough the steelers will have 5 false start penalties. and maybe c. johnson has practiced and rehearsed for 3 end zone celebration this week. who cares. its the same stories, teams, hopes and wishful thinking as before the last meeting. the tides havent turned. so your team is 1 game ahead in the standings again. your bobbing in the water barely staying afloat.
No, it's obvious that the atmosphere has changed. Just look at the past two weeks. You guys get dominated by the colts and lose, we lose but keep it a close game. You guys lose to the ravens, we absolutely blow them out. I know that you beat us head-to-head earlier in the season...but I'm going on how the teams are playing right now. The bengals are growing up...especially on offense. The defense is still a little inconsistent, but it's not a very big concern to me when the bengals have a prolific offense that can score on every drive. The steelers better keep troy back in coverage, because if they start playing him like a MLB against the bengals like they did against the colts, it's gonna be a quick 9 to 85 connection for 6.

tony hipchest
11-30-2005, 07:22 PM
No, it's obvious that the atmosphere has changed. Just look at the past two weeks. You guys get dominated by the colts and lose, we lose but keep it a close game. You guys lose to the ravens, we absolutely blow them out. I know that you beat us head-to-head earlier in the season...but I'm going on how the teams are playing right now. The bengals are growing up...especially on offense. The defense is still a little inconsistent, but it's not a very big concern to me when the bengals have a prolific offense that can score on every drive. The steelers better keep troy back in coverage, because if they start playing him like a MLB against the bengals like they did against the colts, it's gonna be a quick 9 to 85 connection for 6.

its tough. i snuck into my fantasy playoffs and this week is the 1st playoff game. i have johnson and palmer. could be no worse week to be facing the steelers. i usually throw out the past few games and records between conference rivals. you really never know whats gonna happen. but i dont think steelers will do anything different with polamalu. you may see them make an adjustment to get him in place for an interception or something though. the only atmosphere that will matter is the heinz field crowd

Suitanim
12-01-2005, 12:01 PM
All the stats in the world can't change the fact that the Bengals are still completely owned by the Steelers, and until they can prove differently, well...

You get another shot Sunday...

SalukiSteelers
12-01-2005, 08:51 PM
Well, well, well. Bengalsfan is feeling it, aren't they? The Steelers aren't a passing team, yeah that's true. The Steelers want their QB to pass as a second option or for a change of pace -- guilty as charged. Palmer is getting some run for MVP -- this week he is.

Fact is, though, that Ben has seven (I think) fourth quarter drives to tie or give the Steelers the lead. How many does Carson have? Since the Bengals usually have a hard time winning seven games, period, I'm going to say not that many.

Sure, Cincy can score, but where was that state of the art offense the last time they played the Steelers? Maybe they left it in the locker room. Or maybe the Steelers 'D' dominated the Bengals.

Look, Palmer is a good quarterback. Especially for the system that Cincy uses. I'll give him credit for that, not that it matters. Who's a better quarterback? Who cares. Neither guy has a picture holding the Lombardi trophy, do they?

Before everybody loses perspective on this one, right now Ben has the wins (counting last sseason) and Palmer has the stats. Well, except for career QB rating. We'll take our guy, you take yours. It's the other 21 guys that make a difference so we'll see how your fellas stack up on Sunday.

StillerPaul
12-02-2005, 11:21 AM
My scoreboard says Ben - 3, Carson Punker - 0. Don't blame us cause' our QB can WIN.

How about going to a bungle board and asking them if they can tell Carson not to throw the ball to US so often?