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revefsreleets
09-24-2008, 12:12 PM
http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=3643#more-3643

(Here's the first breakdown and some exposition and analysis...click the link for the rest)

Ladies and Gentlemen, today we bring to you a new weekly feature. Of course you are aware that we break down and grade each game from an offensive line perspective but we wanted to spice things up a bit. Our boy CW is going to handle the task each week of breaking down just the SACKS. Some weeks there might be 3, some weeks 1, and of course some weeks there will be NINE!
*Note: I would like to point out that it is often too difficult to pin a sack on one player in particular, and in these cases, I will “credit” the sack to multiple culprits. You will notice in my conclusion and final scores that this method of giving sack credits to more than one OLineman per play can lead to a higher number of sack deductions than the actual number of sacks against the QB that week. Don’t worry…it’ will be easy to follow along.
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OK, let me start off by saying this is only a breakdown on the actual plays that were counted as sacks. It was certainly a long night with a lot of blame to go around.
In each section you will find my notes- I watched every player on the field and wrote what I saw - then I looked at each play multiple times to see as much as I could from what the Eagles were doing. If you want to skip the notes, I also provide a final summary for each sack, which I did after I watched every sack and then went back for a final impression.
And one other thing - I know no one wants to hear this but this freakin Jim Johnson has more tricks than Spielberg - and that defense has some special athletes.


Sack Analysis

Sack #1 - 2nd quarter - 9:19 - 1st down - 2 TE’s - single back - 2 WR’s - twins right - 5 step drop
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Smith: good pass pro, one on one with RDE
Kemo: RDT slants inside, double with Hartwig
Hartwig: Doubles with Kemo
Simmons: Good pass pro one on one with LDT
Colon: Good pass pro one on one with LDE
Parker: Good pass pro on MLB
Ben: Couldn’t find anyone open and tried to tuck and run up the middle, 2 yard loss
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-Great SLB blitz, funneled Ben into LDE
Tough sack to pin blame on someone. The easy way out is to blame Colon, however the guy is trying to form a pocket, and when Ben takes off like that and an athletic DE chases him down, how is that on the tackle? What disrupted the play and the pocket was the LB who came around unblocked. There is no TV angle that shows anyone is open - however Ben does have a full 4 seconds to set up and throw, and instead of getting rid of it he tried to get yards up the middle. I blame this one on Ben.

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Cool feature. I like it.

I am not gonna play the blame game, as you are right that you can pin that on Colon, Kemo, Ben, etc.

I'm more concerned that there seems to be too much space for the D-line to run between blockers and look at the interior O linemen not establishing a good post foot and ending up 7 yards deep in the backfield. They look like they are on skates.

Steeldude
09-24-2008, 01:08 PM
the is spread from the coaches down to the players. perhaps some deserve more blame than others.

these are the same problems they faced last year. it has yet to be corrected.

Leftoverhard
09-24-2008, 01:28 PM
very cool, I've been looking for this exact thing.

It looks like Washington was open in the middle but...
That was a very well executed blitz.

MasterOfPuppets
09-24-2008, 01:46 PM
hmmmmm....this guys analysis isn't consistent with the 30 + experts here on SF....:scratchchin:

Rotorhead
09-24-2008, 01:54 PM
It was good analysis, very interesting read. Wish I could have watched the videos at work though. Wonder if it is possible to add the amount of time Ben had to actually look down field on the sacks? I recall on several of them, he actually dodged at least one person before getting sacked.

Elvis
09-24-2008, 02:20 PM
:noidea: The only thing I know is ... We Gave Up 6 Sacks In 1 Quarter!!!

Enuff Said''' :doh:

Steeldude
09-24-2008, 02:51 PM
hmmmmm....this guys analysis isn't consistent with the 30 + experts here on SF....:scratchchin:

he is a poster on the steelers scout message board.

his assessment looks to be the similar to many on here. this was just a review of the plays that resulted in sacks, not the ones BR scrambled out of or was hurried. lots of blame to go around for that debacle on sunday.

this person's analysis is also interesting. here is a quote Roethlisberger either got rid of the ball or was dodging his first pass rusher less than three seconds after the snap on 31 of his 37 pass plays. Four of Roethlisberger's sacks came on plays where the first rusher was on him in less than two seconds

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/09/22/what-a-debacle-steelers-o-line-falls-apart-against-eagles/#cont

steelpride12
09-24-2008, 05:03 PM
:noidea: The only thing I know is ... We Gave Up 6 Sacks In 1 Quarter!!!

Enuff Said''' :doh:

Haha ya that doesn't mean much when you lose count of sacks! :chuckle:

Preacher
09-24-2008, 05:50 PM
See...

Now THIS type of fan analysis is GREAT...

I am not sure I agree with him about "throwing the ball away."

Again, I wonder what happens when you try to "throw it away" and end up with an INT or a Intentional Grounding penalty since Ben was still in the pocket."
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Davison_K
09-24-2008, 06:05 PM
makes me cry a little just thinking about the sacks

klick81
09-24-2008, 06:07 PM
Thanks for posting this. Great content.

Steelman16
09-24-2008, 10:19 PM
Nice post! This is the type of stuff that folks should slap on the plate...not the moanin' n' groanin'.

We've got work to do, but I think by the mid/end of the season, we'll be much more gelled in terms of pass protection.

(that is, if big dollar man ain't on a stretcher. :chuckle: )

augustashark
09-25-2008, 12:03 AM
After watching the "sack #1" video, it is clear to me that Ben should have check it down to Nate. It was 3rd and 1, there was no reason to run three receivers down the field 10+ yards, so not the best play call.

Galax Steeler
09-25-2008, 03:23 AM
very interesting post.