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OneForTheToe
09-26-2008, 05:59 PM
I hate the BCS. No. I don't think not having championship game is UN-American (USA, USA), but this fiction is an insult to the great sporting nature of the great game of college football. Outside of rooting for Pitt (or even P State, WVU) I simply root now for any outcome that throws a wrench into the inner workings of the BCS. Here is hoping somebody from the WAC or Mountain West goes undefeated every year until they fix this cluster @#@$#ck.

With that in mind, how sweet it was to see the BCS darlin S Cal get whooped last night. Think of this thread as a place to throw doo-doo at that validity of the BCS, until the end of the season when the BCS tries and convince us that they can determine which 2 loss SEC team (best conference by far) is better than a one loss team from the Big Ten or PAC Ten.



So, here's to you MR. BCS man :flap::flap::flap:

MasterOfPuppets
09-26-2008, 06:45 PM
i couldn't agree more.......if it weren't for that BCS bullshit, my terps would have 4 or 5 championships by now..........:rofl:

revefsreleets
09-26-2008, 07:30 PM
Hey, wait! I'm all for a playoff...I think even 4 teams would be better than the current system, but 8 would be awesome (and they aren't going any deeper than 8, so forget it).

I think it will happen, and happen soon...College football has gotten too big, and now teams are jumping on the OSU/USC bandwagon and scheduling big ooc games. It's generating bigger interest and the DEMAND for a playoff will be overwhelming and unavoidable at some point in the near future.

Steeler in Carolina
09-26-2008, 07:32 PM
There must be a playoff. You can have a playoff and still keep the bowl system.

MasterOfPuppets
09-26-2008, 09:55 PM
Hey, wait! I'm all for a playoff...I think even 4 teams would be better than the current system, but 8 would be awesome (and they aren't going any deeper than 8, so forget it).

I think it will happen, and happen soon...College football has gotten too big, and now teams are jumping on the OSU/USC bandwagon and scheduling big ooc games. It's generating bigger interest and the DEMAND for a playoff will be overwhelming and unavoidable at some point in the near future.
8 ? , i was thinking 10. there should be 10 conferences (re aligned, based on qualifications, such as size of university) with 10 teams.each team plays 7 conference games, and 3 non conference games. the top 2 teams play 1 game for the conference title . the conference winner advances to the playoffs.of course 1 team would need a 2nd rd bye. it could be determined by the strength of schedule against the non conference opponents.

SteelCityMan786
09-26-2008, 11:03 PM
There must be a playoff. You can have a playoff and still keep the bowl system.

I say 16 where the conference champion and runner up make it and 4 bids go at large.

Bowls for those who still had winning seasons.

MasterOfPuppets
09-26-2008, 11:45 PM
I say 16 where the conference champion and runner up make it and 4 bids go at large.

Bowls for those who still had winning seasons.that would be a heck of a long season for the finalist.....

SteelCityMan786
09-27-2008, 11:28 AM
that would be a heck of a long season for the finalist.....

It's not the success that makes you great, it's what become because of it.

Steeler in Carolina
09-27-2008, 04:39 PM
that would be a heck of a long season for the finalist.....

It's that way in the 1-AA (or FCS if you want to call it that.)

Steeler in Carolina
09-27-2008, 04:40 PM
Great to see Ole Miss knock of Florida today. I hope every team ends up with 1 loss or more.

GoFins11
09-27-2008, 06:50 PM
Great to see Ole Miss knock of Florida today.

:mad:.........:hug:

It wouldn't surprise me if both teams in the NC game had at least 1 loss.

revefsreleets
09-27-2008, 07:14 PM
Oh, bank it...there isn't a major BCS program that goes undefeated this year...but mayube a team like Utah or something (and NO they DON'T deserve to play in the NCG!). It'll be two one loss teams.

Dino 6 Rings
09-28-2008, 11:05 AM
Top 4 is all you need for a National Title game...that's it. I don't like the idea of 16. Just give me 1 - 4 and that'll really settle things on the field. Basically...a Plus One game.

lilyoder6
09-28-2008, 02:15 PM
the bcs is A JOKE... u see it evry yr that voters give a lil extra of take a lil extra from teams.... i want to see how far they drop there team USC

Godfather
09-29-2008, 10:28 AM
They should do the 11 conference champs and one at large. My other computer has how that would have worked last year with the playoffs and bowl games.

revefsreleets
09-29-2008, 10:57 AM
They'd have to pare the schedule down to 12 games, (maybe 11 for confrerences with championship games) and they will never ever do that. If we could get 4 teams it's better than 2, and 8 would be great, but I think even that is stretching what we're ever likely to see.

Have to keep this realistic here...

Godfather
09-29-2008, 11:37 PM
They'd have to pare the schedule down to 12 games, (maybe 11 for confrerences with championship games) and they will never ever do that. If we could get 4 teams it's better than 2, and 8 would be great, but I think even that is stretching what we're ever likely to see.

Have to keep this realistic here...

True....maybe a plus-one that kicks in only if there's two undefeated teams left after the bowls. That would apply to 1998, 1999, and 2004.

Dino 6 Rings
10-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Pitt beat #10 USF, that Mucks things up a little. WOOHOO!

MasterOfPuppets
10-03-2008, 01:38 PM
It's not the success that makes you great, it's what become because of it.
i'm just saing....for someone that would be 4 playoff games plus the regular season....15 plus games for a college student? and 1 team would have to get a bye in the 3rd round.

revefsreleets
10-03-2008, 03:31 PM
i'm just saing....for someone that would be 4 playoff games plus the regular season....15 plus games for a college student? and 1 team would have to get a bye in the 3rd round.

Seriously, i think everyone would be a lot happier even if it was just the top 4 teams (obviously #5-8 will bitch, but, hey, dems da breaks!). It'd still be a helluva better system than we have in place now!

MasterOfPuppets
10-03-2008, 04:35 PM
Seriously, i think everyone would be a lot happier even if it was just the top 4 teams (obviously #5-8 will bitch, but, hey, dems da breaks!). It'd still be a helluva better system than we have in place now!no doubt....but i'd just like to see at least 1 representative from each major conference. who or how would the top 4 be chosen? the only fair way would be a point system based on strength of schedule.at least with the winner of each conference its clear cut on who makes it and who don't. you either win your conference....or STFU and go home. as i said before...the conferences should be realigned, to make them all competitive.

revefsreleets
10-04-2008, 06:11 PM
The BCS does take several things into account, included several different computer rankings. I'd accept their top 4 at face value.

MasterOfPuppets
10-04-2008, 08:55 PM
The BCS does take several things into account, included several different computer rankings. I'd accept their top 4 at face value. considering the "computer rankings" is what the contoversey is all about to begin with, i only see extending it to 4 ,only slightly legitamizes the champ.as you said in one of your early post......5 thru 8 is now the one's that'll be " the squeeky wheels" ..the computer ranking system needs to be scraped alltogether....IMO.

Godfather
10-07-2008, 08:32 PM
no doubt....but i'd just like to see at least 1 representative from each major conference. who or how would the top 4 be chosen? the only fair way would be a point system based on strength of schedule.at least with the winner of each conference its clear cut on who makes it and who don't. you either win your conference....or STFU and go home. as i said before...the conferences should be realigned, to make them all competitive.

Right now we take 2 and #3 gets mad. If we took 4 then #5 would get mad. If we took 8 then #9 would get mad.

But a 4 or 8 team playoff would still be better. I can't see an undefeated team being 9th so you can always tell #9 it's their own fault for losing to _______.

lilyoder6
10-07-2008, 09:47 PM
like the yr that auburn went un-defeated and they didn't play in the NC... a lot and i mean a lot of teams get screwed b/c of the ranking system

MasterOfPuppets
10-07-2008, 09:53 PM
Right now we take 2 and #3 gets mad. If we took 4 then #5 would get mad. If we took 8 then #9 would get mad.

But a 4 or 8 team playoff would still be better. I can't see an undefeated team being 9th so you can always tell #9 it's their own fault for losing to _______.ok....now read what i have darkend.....


no doubt....but i'd just like to see at least 1 representative from each major conference. who or how would the top 4 be chosen? the only fair way would be a point system based on strength of schedule.at least with the winner of each conference its clear cut on who makes it and who don't. you either win your conference....or STFU and go home. as i said before...the conferences should be realigned, to make them all competitive.

Godfather
10-09-2008, 09:21 AM
ok....now read what i have darkend.....

Oh, that would work too...I'm just saying how a 4 team playoff would work.

I like the idea of every conference champion getting in. Ideally you'd have the 11 champs and one wild card.

revefsreleets
10-09-2008, 10:08 AM
like the yr that auburn went un-defeated and they didn't play in the NC... a lot and i mean a lot of teams get screwed b/c of the ranking system

That was their own fault. The SEC wasn't THAT great that year, and Auburn played a particularly weak (even by SEC standards) ooc schedule. They reaped what they sowed...

OOC in 04:
LA Tech
LA Monroe
Citadel

OneForTheToe
10-11-2008, 04:40 PM
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone
And another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust


Bye bye Sooners.

MasterOfPuppets
10-11-2008, 11:21 PM
texas the new # 1 ?
penn state 2 ?

lilyoder6
10-11-2008, 11:39 PM
well i think bama will stay number 2 for being idle...

OneForTheToe
10-12-2008, 12:47 AM
I think it will be:

1) Alabama
2) Texas
3) Penn State
4) Texas Tech
5) USC

The clock is ticking on bama.

I think it should be:
1) Texas
2) Alabama
3) Penn State ( I will root for them to make the BCSCG, but they don't deserve to be ranked above Texas and and Alabama at the moment)
4) Texas Tech
5) BYU

Pitt should move up two spots (to 22 withVandy and Auburn dropping) even after being idol.

OneForTheToe
10-12-2008, 12:12 PM
Top 25
RANK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1. Texas (39) 6-0 1599 5
2. Alabama (26) 6-0 1582 2
3. Penn State 7-0 1492 6
4. Oklahoma 5-1 1306 1
5. Florida 5-1 1284 11
6. USC 4-1 1247 8
7. Texas Tech 6-0 1210 7
8. Oklahoma State 6-0 1184 17
9. Brigham Young 6-0 1131 9
10. Georgia 5-1 1081 10
11. Missouri 5-1 984 3
12. Ohio State 6-1 908 12
13. LSU 4-1 893 4
14. Utah 7-0 834 14
15. Boise State 5-0 714 15
16. Kansas 5-1 620 16
17. Virginia Tech 5-1 540 18
18. North Carolina 5-1 416 22
19. South Florida 5-1 397 19
20. Michigan State 6-1 371 23
21. Wake Forest 4-1 330 21
22. Vanderbilt 5-1 258 13
23. Pittsburgh 4-1 182 24
24. Ball State 7-0 166 25
25. California 4-1 115 NR


Well there is the fake rankings for the week. What a joke?

I'm fine with the top three, but how does OKLA only fall to four? And what did USC do to deserve leaping over Texas Tech? In addition, I know Florida deserved to jump up after dismantling LSU, but why above BYU and OKLA St?

Pitt moved up one spot. Not bad after not playing, but I thought they might move over Vandy.

Over all, just more proof that this system is a joke. One could throw darts at a board and not be that far askew from where we end up.

Dino 6 Rings
10-12-2008, 05:07 PM
Holy crap at this season...if ever there was a call for a top 8 teams playoff...this is it.

MasterOfPuppets
10-12-2008, 05:20 PM
Holy crap at this season...if ever there was a call for a top 8 teams playoff...this is it.
but then you still have the ranking system coming into play....the ranking system is the whole freakin problem to begin with.

Godfather
10-13-2008, 07:57 AM
Well there is the fake rankings for the week. What a joke?

I'm fine with the top three, but how does OKLA only fall to four? And what did USC do to deserve leaping over Texas Tech? In addition, I know Florida deserved to jump up after dismantling LSU, but why above BYU and OKLA St?

Pitt moved up one spot. Not bad after not playing, but I thought they might move over Vandy.

Over all, just more proof that this system is a joke. One could throw darts at a board and not be that far askew from where we end up.

Yep...the AP poll is ridiculous. How can Southern Cal be above BYU, an undefeated team from a conference that's unquestionably better this season (as demonstrated by its domination of the Pac-10?)

revefsreleets
10-13-2008, 08:35 AM
USC has never been properly penalized for losing to a team that will only end up ranked about 50 when the season is over. And, Oklahoma should have fallen farther than 5. I'd have dropped them to at least 10. Texas did deserve to jump to one since they had to BEAT 1 to do it, and that's no slight on Bama at all.

The ONLY reason PSU didn't hop up to #2 with their dismantling of Wiscy is that Bama is an SEC team. That Big 10 hate lingers...

atlsteelers
10-13-2008, 12:47 PM
8 team playofff system would work better if the big 10 and pac 10 add a conference championship game. that way the playoff really start with the conference championship game.

revefsreleets
10-13-2008, 04:35 PM
Adding games is NEVER going to happen...games will have to be subtracted if you want 8 playoff teams. They'd cap it at 12. That's why it's unrealistic to think 8. There are about 30 programs that count on big money from home games, and only a few would benefit from 8 playoff teams at the expense of possibly losing the revenue of another regular season home game.

Dino 6 Rings
10-14-2008, 12:32 PM
I'm cheering for an Oklahoma State vs BYU national Title Game...if anything would open up the chances of a playoffs, that game would do it!

Dino 6 Rings
10-25-2008, 05:58 PM
Dang it...well OK State won't be in the title game. To muck it up, both Bama and PSU have to lose and then we'd have a ton of 1 loss teams all fighting for the title game match up.

Godfather
10-26-2008, 09:08 AM
Dang it...well OK State won't be in the title game. To muck it up, both Bama and PSU have to lose and then we'd have a ton of 1 loss teams all fighting for the title game match up.

The media would just hand the other spot to Southern Cal in spite of their weak schedule. If the computers put a more deserving team in based on SOS they'll tweak the formula :banging:

Steeler in Carolina
10-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Next week's game between Texas and Texas Tech should be interesting. History says Tech will have trouble, but you never know. Tech can score a lot of points.

Dino 6 Rings
10-26-2008, 06:59 PM
Well Florida and Georgia play this week so one of them will have a 2nd loss.

Texas vs Texas Tech, one gets a loss and drops.

Godfather
10-27-2008, 12:27 PM
Well Florida and Georgia play this week so one of them will have a 2nd loss.

Texas vs Texas Tech, one gets a loss and drops.

The key to that is which one. TT would nosedive. The sips would probably stay in the top five.

What's really cool is the number of busters threatening to crash the party. Utah is #10, Boise #11, TCU #13, Ball State #16, Tulsa #18, and BYU #20. A few of those will knock each other off, but that could REALLY muck up the system, especially since the ACC and Big East are embarrassingly bad this year and the Pac-10 is the third best conference out West.

lilyoder6
10-27-2008, 03:14 PM
ok state only drop 2 spots after losing to texas.. so if tt does lose they won't drop far.. but the game between tt and texas will be a shoot-out, something that will resemble when texas played ou.. good game it will be

OneForTheToe
11-02-2008, 12:11 PM
The Polls so far:


AP
1. Alabama (46) 9-0 1,600
2. Texas Tech (12) 9-0 1,528
3. Penn State (6) 9-0 1,525
4. Florida (1) 7-1 1,398
5. Texas 8-1 1,353


USA
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1,498
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1,437
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1,409
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1,290
5. Florida 7-1 1,268


So the AP moved Tech above PSU. The BCS uses the USA Today Coache's poll, I believe. So, this should be interesting. Another great year this would be for a playoff.:wink02:

SteelCityMan786
11-02-2008, 01:46 PM
The Polls so far:


AP
1. Alabama (46) 9-0 1,600
2. Texas Tech (12) 9-0 1,528
3. Penn State (6) 9-0 1,525
4. Florida (1) 7-1 1,398
5. Texas 8-1 1,353


USA
1. Alabama (40) 9-0 1,498
2. Penn State (14) 9-0 1,437
3. Texas Tech (6) 9-0 1,409
4. Oklahoma (1) 8-1 1,290
5. Florida 7-1 1,268


So the AP moved Tech above PSU. The BCS uses the USA Today Coache's poll, I believe. So, this should be interesting. Another great year this would be for a playoff.:wink02:


Yep, and people say that's a dumb idea. PLAY IT OVER THE KIDS WINTER BREAK!!!!

revefsreleets
11-03-2008, 10:08 AM
The BCS is really the only thing that matters at this point. I actually think both Bama and TT will both lose a game, and I expect to see PSU/UF in the NCG.

CrimsonTideSteelersFan
11-03-2008, 10:41 AM
The BCS is really the only thing that matters at this point. I actually think both Bama and TT will both lose a game, and I expect to see PSU/UF in the NCG.

I feel like if Alabama makes it by LSU this Saturday, that Bama is on their way to Miami. I think that Alabama's offensive and defensive lines will be too much in the end for Florida to overcome. Smash mouth football beats finesse football just about every time. If that does happen, then I like either an Alabama/Penn State matchup or an Alabama/Oklahoma matchup. Penn State is obviously in a tough spot with the SEC and Big XII having conference championship games.

revefsreleets
11-03-2008, 10:58 AM
UF is firing on all cylinders right now, and are probably the best all-around team in the country.

Bama has had a nice run, but they'll get squished like a grape against UF. Bama's only truly convincing wins are against inferior competition.

CrimsonTideSteelersFan
11-03-2008, 12:01 PM
UF is firing on all cylinders right now, and are probably the best all-around team in the country.

Bama has had a nice run, but they'll get squished like a grape against UF. Bama's only truly convincing wins are against inferior competition.

Bama has just as many so-called quality wins as does Florida at this point. Florida also lost to Ole Miss at home in Gainesville. I'll take my chances with Bama's O-Line and D-Line against UF all day long.

revefsreleets
11-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Hopefully they can get past LSU so we get a chance to find out.

If they can't beat the Tigers, well...

CrimsonTideSteelersFan
11-03-2008, 12:59 PM
Hopefully they can get past LSU so we get a chance to find out.

If they can't beat the Tigers, well...

Even if Alabama loses to LSU, Bama is still headed to Atlanta to play Florida unless a major debacle ensues. I think that Alabama should beat LSU, but there's a ton of pressure on Alabama right now being ranked #1 and this being Saban's first trip to Baton Rouge as the Alabama coach.

rbryan
11-03-2008, 01:21 PM
It's still too early for me to worry about whether Bama or Tech belongs ranked ahead of PSU. I'm not taking the three games we have left for granted. I'd hope the team isn't spending any energy worrying about it either.

If Bama and Tech win out, I'll tip my hat. Not because of who they've played so far, but because it means they both beat another 2 or 3 good teams. I doubt that happens though. I think they both lose and if PSU runs the table, we play Fla for all the marbles.

I just don't want to hear any BS about a one loss team jumping over us if we do manage to finish undefeated.

revefsreleets
11-03-2008, 06:14 PM
Even if Alabama loses to LSU, Bama is still headed to Atlanta to play Florida unless a major debacle ensues. I think that Alabama should beat LSU, but there's a ton of pressure on Alabama right now being ranked #1 and this being Saban's first trip to Baton Rouge as the Alabama coach.

I get that. But if they can't beat an only decent LSU team, how are they going to beat a Florida team that is probably playing as good as any team in the country?

SteelCityMan786
11-03-2008, 07:35 PM
Even if Alabama loses to LSU, Bama is still headed to Atlanta to play Florida unless a major debacle ensues. I think that Alabama should beat LSU, but there's a ton of pressure on Alabama right now being ranked #1 and this being Saban's first trip to Baton Rouge as the Alabama coach.

Knowing today's college Football world, NOTHING IS GUARANTEED!!!!

atlsteelers
11-06-2008, 08:28 AM
That should be a real good football game this saturday between LSU and Alabama - LSU wants to win this game more than OSU game last year (at least the fans i know from lsu). the shear hate for saban is amazing and understandable.

lilyoder6
11-06-2008, 09:41 AM
that wahat i was banking on for the tigers... they are gonna want to play amazing against saban for leaving them... it will be a good game to watch.... and between bama and florida.. it would be a good game.. but i think that florida has to many athletes to deal with and bama won't be able to stop them

atlsteelers
11-07-2008, 07:51 AM
i think bama will win but LSU does match up well with bama - but i do not sh*t about CFL football i thought we were going to beat Florida last weekend.

Dino 6 Rings
11-08-2008, 06:12 PM
Man, it would be awesome if one of the undefeated teams lost today, maybe 2, that would mess up the BCS for sure...lets check the scores...what's this?

24-23...Iowa Wins...Wow...just wow...didn't see that big CHOKE coming from the Lions...oh well, hopefully it messes up the BCS...

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

SteelCityMan786
11-08-2008, 06:26 PM
At the end of the day, Penn State still has a chance to go to Pasadena. Gotta have amnesia over this game and Prepare to play Indiana.

Dino 6 Rings
11-08-2008, 06:37 PM
PSU vs USC would be a very entertaining Rose Bowl. I wouldn't mind seeing that game and seeing USC avoid sneaking into the Title game. For me, its the winner of the SEC vs the Winner of the Big 12 (Unless somehow, the North 12 team beats whatever team from the south is going to the title game.) I mean if MIssouri beats Texas/Ok/OkSt/TTech in the title game, that would be a real shame.

OneForTheToe
11-08-2008, 06:37 PM
With PSU losing, I am now hoping that one of the "BCS Busters" get up into the to four or five by the end of the season and subsuquently wins their bowl game. I know there is almost no chance of Boise or Utah getting into the top 2. How sweet it would be though.

millwalldavey
11-08-2008, 09:18 PM
PSU vs USC would be a very entertaining Rose Bowl. I wouldn't mind seeing that game and seeing USC avoid sneaking into the Title game. For me, its the winner of the SEC vs the Winner of the Big 12 (Unless somehow, the North 12 team beats whatever team from the south is going to the title game.) I mean if MIssouri beats Texas/Ok/OkSt/TTech in the title game, that would be a real shame.

Everyone in the world can shove the whole OSU beating USC schtick. USC would PUMMEL the Lions. Final word on that.

Dino 6 Rings
11-09-2008, 09:23 AM
I think we need Bama and T Tech to both lose their title games. That would ruin thing, because you can't go to the NT Title game if you lose your conference title game, not since Oklahoma did it a few years back. Lost the Big 12 title game but still went to the NT game. That can't happen now. So if Bama and Tech both lose in the title games, well then, that'll muck stuff up for sure.

SteelCityMan786
11-09-2008, 09:24 AM
I think we need Bama and T Tech to both lose their title games. That would ruin thing, because you can't go to the NT Title game if you lose your conference title game, not since Oklahoma did it a few years back. Lost the Big 12 title game but still went to the NT game. That can't happen now. So if Bama and Tech both lose in the title games, well then, that'll muck stuff up for sure.

Not to mention that would tell the BCS Committee to finally start developing a playoff.

revefsreleets
11-09-2008, 02:25 PM
They announced yesterday that the Orange Bowl, who has an open at-large bid is giving serious consideration to giving the invite to Ohio State (provided MSU or PSU goes to the Rose, which naturally is still the big get at this point)...so the Bucks can still score a major BCS bowl as 2nd place in the Big Ten...which dovetails with the whole "Mucking up the BCS picture" thing...

Dino 6 Rings
11-14-2008, 02:16 PM
Ok,

Cheer for PITT to win out.
Chear for Oregon State to win out, cause then they are officially the Pac 10 Champ. Meaning, USC can't go to the title game even with one loss.
Cheer for Florida State to beat Florida and for Auburn to beat Bama, then have a 2 loss Florida team beat a 1 loss Bama team in the SEC title game.
Cheer for Mich State to beat PSU for a 2nd loss
Then, Cheer for Missouri to win the Big 12 title game.
Then, Cheer for FSU to lose the ACC title game to a 3 loss Miami team.

So then we'd have a 3 loss Oregon State Pac 10 champ.
We'd have a 3 loss Miami as ACC Champ.
a 2 loss Missouri team as Big 12 champ.
a 2 loss Florida team as SEC Champ.
a 2 loss Ohio State as Big 10 Champ
and a 2 loss Pitt team as Big East champ.

Now...pick your National Title game!

what if? Boise State at 12-0 vs Utah at 12-0 (if they win the Holy War vs BYU)

HA HA!

That'll blow up the BCS for sure!

Godfather
11-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Ok,

Cheer for PITT to win out.
Chear for Oregon State to win out, cause then they are officially the Pac 10 Champ. Meaning, USC can't go to the title game even with one loss.
Cheer for Florida State to beat Florida and for Auburn to beat Bama, then have a 2 loss Florida team beat a 1 loss Bama team in the SEC title game.
Cheer for Mich State to beat PSU for a 2nd loss
Then, Cheer for Missouri to win the Big 12 title game.
Then, Cheer for FSU to lose the ACC title game to a 3 loss Miami team.

So then we'd have a 3 loss Oregon State Pac 10 champ.
We'd have a 3 loss Miami as ACC Champ.
a 2 loss Missouri team as Big 12 champ.
a 2 loss Florida team as SEC Champ.
a 2 loss Ohio State as Big 10 Champ
and a 2 loss Pitt team as Big East champ.

Now...pick your National Title game!

what if? Boise State at 12-0 vs Utah at 12-0 (if they win the Holy War vs BYU)

HA HA!

That'll blow up the BCS for sure!

We would need Southern Cal to lose at least one more game too. There's no rule saying you have to win your conference--it's just an argument against you. That scenario could end up with Southern Cal against a one-loss Big XII South team in Miami.

OneForTheToe
11-15-2008, 05:36 PM
Ok,

Cheer for PITT to win out.
Chear for Oregon State to win out, cause then they are officially the Pac 10 Champ. Meaning, USC can't go to the title game even with one loss.
Cheer for Florida State to beat Florida and for Auburn to beat Bama, then have a 2 loss Florida team beat a 1 loss Bama team in the SEC title game.
Cheer for Mich State to beat PSU for a 2nd loss
Then, Cheer for Missouri to win the Big 12 title game.
Then, Cheer for FSU to lose the ACC title game to a 3 loss Miami team.

So then we'd have a 3 loss Oregon State Pac 10 champ.
We'd have a 3 loss Miami as ACC Champ.
a 2 loss Missouri team as Big 12 champ.
a 2 loss Florida team as SEC Champ.
a 2 loss Ohio State as Big 10 Champ
and a 2 loss Pitt team as Big East champ.

Now...pick your National Title game!

what if? Boise State at 12-0 vs Utah at 12-0 (if they win the Holy War vs BYU)

HA HA!

That'll blow up the BCS for sure!

Wow, you might have to diagram that for me.:chuckle:

SteelCityMan786
11-15-2008, 05:46 PM
Ok,

Cheer for PITT to win out.
Chear for Oregon State to win out, cause then they are officially the Pac 10 Champ. Meaning, USC can't go to the title game even with one loss.
Cheer for Florida State to beat Florida and for Auburn to beat Bama, then have a 2 loss Florida team beat a 1 loss Bama team in the SEC title game.
Cheer for Mich State to beat PSU for a 2nd loss
Then, Cheer for Missouri to win the Big 12 title game.
Then, Cheer for FSU to lose the ACC title game to a 3 loss Miami team.

So then we'd have a 3 loss Oregon State Pac 10 champ.
We'd have a 3 loss Miami as ACC Champ.
a 2 loss Missouri team as Big 12 champ.
a 2 loss Florida team as SEC Champ.
a 2 loss Ohio State as Big 10 Champ
and a 2 loss Pitt team as Big East champ.

Now...pick your National Title game!

what if? Boise State at 12-0 vs Utah at 12-0 (if they win the Holy War vs BYU)

HA HA!

That'll blow up the BCS for sure!

Pitt will lose to at least 1 of the last 3 teams they play against.

Penn State doesn't lose easily at home. So I wouldn't bank on it. Especially if they don't play like they did against Iowa.

Steeler in Carolina
11-15-2008, 06:05 PM
That would be a great outcome if it comes true. Bosie St is going to get screwed out of a BCS bowl this year and that is a shame.

revefsreleets
11-16-2008, 03:08 PM
Why would PSU want to duck USC?

As an OSU fan, I'm DYING for a rematch with the Trojans. Hiding from the best team available is a cop-out...

Any team.
Anywhere.
Any time.

SteelCityMan786
11-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Why would PSU want to duck USC?

As an OSU fan, I'm DYING for a rematch with the Trojans. Hiding from the best team available is a cop-out...

Any team.
Anywhere.
Any time.

I want a match up with them if I can get it.

Dino 6 Rings
11-16-2008, 08:18 PM
We would need Southern Cal to lose at least one more game too. There's no rule saying you have to win your conference--it's just an argument against you. That scenario could end up with Southern Cal against a one-loss Big XII South team in Miami.

Really? I thought after Oklahoma 2003 when they lost to Kansas in the Big 12 title game but still went to the title game that the rule was changed to disallow a conference champion loser from going to the title game.

Godfather
11-16-2008, 08:55 PM
Really? I thought after Oklahoma 2003 when they lost to Kansas in the Big 12 title game but still went to the title game that the rule was changed to disallow a conference champion loser from going to the title game.

Never heard of that. After 2003, they dropped SOS and quality wins from the formula and increased the weight of the polls, because that favored Southern Cal and its joke of a schedule.

They also switched the calculation so that it was your percentage of possible points instead of your rankings. In other words, instead of getting 2 points for being ranked second or 3 for being ranked third, they gave you 25 points for each first place vote, 24 for each second place vote, etc. and your score was total points divided by what a unanimous #1 would have.

OneForTheToe
11-22-2008, 09:13 PM
Well, the muckiness begins. Tech is getting destroyed. So, now if Alabama loses tofFlorida we have only two undefeated teams in the top ten, neither of which will get to play for the National Championship.:doh:

Gota luv college football.

Makaveli
11-23-2008, 02:07 PM
"Longshot" in the dark here,...but let's say OK State beats OSU, Florida State beats the Gators and then the Gators destroy Alabama ?

revefsreleets
11-24-2008, 12:16 PM
"Longshot" in the dark here,...but let's say OK State beats OSU, Florida State beats the Gators and then the Gators destroy Alabama ?

Texas USC

Godfather
11-24-2008, 03:10 PM
Texas USC

Yuck. Two large-market media darlings...not much of a muck-up there.

Now, if the aggies pull off a big upset and the condoms lose to ND or UCLA it gets REALLY fun.

revefsreleets
11-24-2008, 07:39 PM
Heard some speculation that the Fiesta may steal USC and face them against Texas if the cards fall right. I guess PSU would get to destroy Oregon State again if it fell that way, but that sucks.

Dino 6 Rings
11-25-2008, 07:30 AM
Need Auburn and Florida State to both pull off the upsets.

revefsreleets
11-25-2008, 08:32 AM
Auburn? Unlikely but remotely possible. FSU? No effing way.

revefsreleets
12-02-2008, 09:16 AM
By the way, thank you Oregon for beating up that pretender Oregon State. Thanks to you, my Bucks are almost certainly looking at an at-large Fiesta vs Texas or Oklahoma or (less likely) Sugar Bowl slot.

Rock on!

Godfather
12-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Looks like it can't get too mucked up. It'll be the FU-Gump winner against Oklahoma (if they win) or Texas (if Mizzou wins). Dangit.

Steeler in Carolina
12-02-2008, 07:20 PM
Looks like Boise State is going to get the screw job.

touchdownward
12-02-2008, 09:16 PM
The BCS is probably doing Boise St. a favor. Although they have beaten all their opponents handily, they really have played a very weak schedule, so it's hard to tell if they are that good.
The BCS might have learned their lesson from last season with Hawaii, of course I'm a huge Georgia fan. :wink02:

revefsreleets
12-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Plus Boise St would have to send the whole state population to make a decent fan showing, whereas there will be 30,000 Buckeye fans if just the area alum show up. And don't forget about TV ratings.

Texas/Ohio State will be a great match-up, and they have a great storyline with McCoy and Pryor.

Dino 6 Rings
12-03-2008, 11:49 AM
Need USC to win, and be at 11-1
Need Oklahoma to Lose to Missouri
Need Ball State to win and be 13-0
Need Florida to win and be 12-1, with Alabama at 11-1.
Then who would go? Texas who didn't even play in their conference title? Or USC who would be 11-1 and the Pac 10 champ?
Or PSU at 11-1?

Mess it all up.

revefsreleets
12-03-2008, 02:06 PM
Need USC to win, and be at 11-1
Need Oklahoma to Lose to Missouri
Need Ball State to win and be 13-0
Need Florida to win and be 12-1, with Alabama at 11-1.
Then who would go? Texas who didn't even play in their conference title? Or USC who would be 11-1 and the Pac 10 champ?
Or PSU at 11-1?

Mess it all up.
In that scenario, Florida, Texas and USC would be the 3 teams vying, and by SOS and conference strength it's a no-brainer: Texas vs Florida. The Pac 10 was a joke as a conference this year...

Dino 6 Rings
12-04-2008, 11:44 AM
But Texas didn't beat anyone out of conference and USC has the Win over #10 OSU to brag on.

Florida played Citadel and should be disaqualified for that reason alone.

revefsreleets
12-04-2008, 06:45 PM
A) I give Texas a pass on the Arkansas game. It was probably scheduled ten years ago. How could the AD at UT know Arkansas would suck ass in 2008?
B) USC lost to Oregon State, a horribly mediocre team. They choke every year against shitty competition. Eff the choking Trojans.
C) It IS shameful that Florida played Citadel. But if they beat Bama (and Bama is certainly for real), they have to go. I actually feel dirty saying that because I hate the Gators with a passion, but fair is fair...

Dino 6 Rings
12-05-2008, 11:00 AM
A) I give Texas a pass on the Arkansas game. It was probably scheduled ten years ago. How could the AD at UT know Arkansas would suck ass in 2008?
B) USC lost to Oregon State, a horribly mediocre team. They choke every year against shitty competition. Eff the choking Trojans.
C) It IS shameful that Florida played Citadel. But if they beat Bama (and Bama is certainly for real), they have to go. I actually feel dirty saying that because I hate the Gators with a passion, but fair is fair...

Texas vs Arkansas is actually considered a rivalry game to the Arkansas fans. It goes back to the old Big South conference. So it isn't that bad of an out of conference game. But it is the only legit game they played out of conference. Oklahoma beat 2 top 25 ranked teams out of conference.

USC lost in a very tough place to play on a Thursday night. They weren't "UP" for the game at all and barely lost. I watched the game. They just blew it. I hate USC but I'd rather see them play a top SEC team to see how they really stack up. I don't want another USC beat down of a Big 10 team in the rose bowl. That's so boring.

Oklahoma is great, but they choke in the big games. I want to see USC either step up and shut up the SEC or get beat like they did against Texas.

OneForTheToe
01-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Had to reserect this thread one last time for the utah Utes. Screwed out of a chance at a national title by a stupid corrupt system

GoFins11
01-03-2009, 07:47 AM
Had to reserect this thread one last time for the utah Utes. Screwed out of a chance at a national title by a stupid corrupt system

I don't think they should get a chance. I don't understand how a non BCS school can get in to a BCS game.:noidea:

steelreserve
01-03-2009, 03:54 PM
I don't think they should get a chance. I don't understand how a non BCS school can get in to a BCS game.:noidea:

Because they were one of the best teams in the country, maybe? It's too bad that "outside" teams have to make it that obvious to even get a shot at a lesser BCS bowl. All the BCS is, is a coalition of the conferences where the money is centered. If you're 12-0 and you've played a few decent teams, you ought to be guaranteed a shot to keep playing until you either lose or you have a national championship trophy, end of story.

revefsreleets
01-05-2009, 08:43 AM
I'm always against these non-BCS teams claiming a share, but I've changed my tune this year, and here's why:

-Utah didn't shy from scheduling OOC teams. Hell, 90% of the SEC teams would not schedule Michigan (and when the game was scheduled, nobody could have known Michigan would suck this year). They also scheduled Oregon State, which is no great shakes, but they DID beat USC.
- They beat Alabama. It's not the Utes fault that bama overlooked them. It was a BCS bowl game...you need to show up to play.
-They are undefeated. That's tough in any conference nowadays.
-SOS. It's probably not that horrible.