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Leftoverhard
10-07-2008, 01:14 PM
Here's a funny/ironic article from the NY Times a couple days ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/weekinreview/05schwartz.html?no_interstitial

Who You Callin’ a Maverick?

By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Published: October 4, 2008
There’s that word again: maverick. In Thursday’s vice-presidential debate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, the Republican candidate, used it to describe herself and her running mate, Senator John McCain, no fewer than six times, at one point calling him “the consummate maverick.”
But to those who know the history of the word, applying it to Mr. McCain is a bit of a stretch — and to one Texas family in particular it is even a bit offensive.

“I’m just enraged that McCain calls himself a maverick,” said Terrellita Maverick, 82, a San Antonio native who proudly carries the name of a family that has been known for its progressive politics since the 1600s, when an early ancestor in Boston got into trouble with the law over his agitation for the rights of indentured servants.

In the 1800s, Samuel Augustus Maverick went to Texas and became known for not branding his cattle. He was more interested in keeping track of the land he owned than the livestock on it, Ms. Maverick said; unbranded cattle, then, were called “Maverick’s.” The name came to mean anyone who didn’t bear another’s brand.

Sam Maverick’s grandson, Fontaine Maury Maverick, was a two-term congressman and a mayor of San Antonio who lost his mayoral re-election bid when conservatives labeled him a Communist. He served in the Roosevelt administration on the Smaller War Plants Corporation and is best known for another coinage. He came up with the term “gobbledygook” in frustration at the convoluted language of bureaucrats.

This Maverick’s son, Maury Jr., was a firebrand civil libertarian and lawyer who defended draft resisters, atheists and others scorned by society. He served in the Texas Legislature during the McCarthy era and wrote fiery columns for The San Antonio Express-News. His final column, published on Feb. 2, 2003, just after he died at 82, was an attack on the coming war in Iraq.

Terrellita Maverick, sister of Maury Jr., is a member emeritus of the board of the San Antonio chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union of Texas.

Considering the family’s long history of association with liberalism and progressive ideals, it should come as no surprise that Ms. Maverick insists that John McCain, who has voted so often with his party, “is in no way a maverick, in uppercase or lowercase.”

“It’s just incredible — the nerve! — to suggest that he’s not part of that Republican herd. Every time we hear it, all my children and I and all my family shrink a little and say, ‘Oh, my God, he said it again.’ ”

“He’s a Republican,” she said. “He’s branded.”

Vis
10-07-2008, 01:27 PM
But when he was younger he would get out of the corral on occasion. In his age he gets stuck in the Bushes.

Leftoverhard
10-07-2008, 04:00 PM
But when he was younger he would get out of the corral on occasion. In his age he gets stuck in the Bushes.

funny, who would have thought McCain would be using the name of a prominent progressive, liberal family from Texas. And that's an oxymoron in it's own right.

MACH1
10-07-2008, 05:08 PM
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_images/ObamaAsElder.jpg

I wonder how the Hussein's feel about their name being used. Ohh wait their all dead.:doh:

revefsreleets
10-07-2008, 06:55 PM
That's a very good point...probably not the most brilliant idea to start hearkening back to the origin of names in this election...

Leftoverhard
10-08-2008, 10:09 AM
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_images/ObamaAsElder.jpg

I wonder how the Hussein's feel about their name being used. Ohh wait their all dead.:doh:


it's almost funny how white people can't even tell when they're being racist. Almost.
Ordinarily I don't point out spelling errors on the internet but as long as you're being ignorant, your their is spelled they're.
If the coin was flipped and Obama started calling himself a Maverick and the original Mavericks were actually a conservative family from Texas, I would concede and say yeah, he sure got told, that's ironic. I wouldn't post a picture of McCain in a Klan kostume.

Vis
10-08-2008, 10:24 AM
It also should be pointed out that the Ford Maverick was a p.o.s.

MACH1
10-08-2008, 11:53 AM
it's almost funny how white people can't even tell when they're being racist. Almost.
Ordinarily I don't point out spelling errors on the internet but as long as you're being ignorant, your their is spelled they're.
If the coin was flipped and Obama started calling himself a Maverick and the original Mavericks were actually a conservative family from Texas, I would concede and say yeah, he sure got told, that's ironic. I wouldn't post a picture of McCain in a Klan kostume.

Sorry to disappoint but I'm not a racist. I believe he is hiding the truth. To many slip ups for me to let it slide by. He is lying about it and I don't trust the guy.IMO Personally I couldn't give a rats ass what faith people are, just don't lie about it.
As far as the pic I don't see anyone holding a gun to his head making him pose for it. If you find a picture with McCain in a klan costume with a big ass smile on his face please do post it, it would change my mind about him. Oh by the way while your checking spelling its costume not kostume.
I find it a little racist myself for you to ass-u-me that I'm white right off the bat. Or does the ball not bounce that way?

Spell check please.

Leftoverhard
10-08-2008, 01:07 PM
:leap:Sorry to disappoint but I'm not a racist.

Oh, ok.

Personally I couldn't give a rats ass what faith people are, just don't lie about it.

I'll point out the irony of your second statement with your first statement but that's all I'm gonna do.
Obama is a Christian. You have a picture of Obama visiting with foreign dignitaries dressed in traditional garb. I have some pictures too.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2006-11/20/xin_5911032010586913131360.jpg
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2004/11/22/howard_wideweb__430x234.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/118/302966156_05be28c472.jpg?v=0
http://www.ghanaweb.biz/GHP/img/pics/65562474.jpg
http://images.derstandard.at/20041203/a%2811%29.jpg

As far as the pic I don't see anyone holding a gun to his head making him pose for it.

No guns on anyone in any of these pictures either. Although Bush looks like he's having a hard time keeping a straight face.

If you find a picture with McCain in a klan costume with a big ass smile on his face please do post it, it would change my mind about him.

I don't have to do that to prove a point. The original maverick, McCain voted against Martin Luther King day as a federal holiday in his state. Me not finishing the end of that story is my response to your continual use of Obama's middle name to try and tie him to Sadaam Hussein (an association so loose it belongs in a brothel) and your post of Obama in traditional garb, which by now may ring a bell as something politicians do and have done for a long time.

Oh by the way while your checking spelling its costume not kostume.

:noidea:

I find it a little racist myself for you to ass-u-me that I'm white right off the bat. Or does the ball not bounce that way?

No, not right off the bat. It took me a few days. That's not racist, that's a skill I've acquired over the years.

MACH1
10-08-2008, 01:49 PM
You know I really don't care what you think about me. I think Hussein is hiding the truth and I don't trust him.

No, not right off the bat. It took me a few days. That's not racist, that's a skill I've acquired over the years.

If I were to say something like that you'd label me a racist, wait you already did. But for you, you've fine tuned it into a skill. :applaudit:
See the ball doesn't bounce both ways. :shake02:

Now I'm done with this conservation as it is going no where.

tony hipchest
10-08-2008, 05:21 PM
“He’s a Republican,” she said. “He’s branded.”

mccain = republican = owned :chuckle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_el_pr/biden

TAMPA, Fla. - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden called Republican John McCain an angry man making ugly attacks against the Democratic ticket to cover up his support for President Bush.


"You can't call yourself a maverick when all you've ever been is a sidekick," Biden said Wednesday of McCain. He credited Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey with first using the line.
:laughing:

Preacher
10-08-2008, 05:54 PM
it's almost funny how white people can't even tell when they're being racist. Almost.
Ordinarily I don't point out spelling errors on the internet but as long as you're being ignorant, your their is spelled they're.
If the coin was flipped and Obama started calling himself a Maverick and the original Mavericks were actually a conservative family from Texas, I would concede and say yeah, he sure got told, that's ironic. I wouldn't post a picture of McCain in a Klan kostume.

If it was Robert Byrd, then a pic in a Klan costume would be appropriate.

It has nothing to do with race.. it is name association. But go ahead and trumpet the race card.

After all, associating him with Bill Ayers is racist too supposedly.