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I-Want-Troy's-Hair
10-17-2008, 01:04 PM
Seems Golden Boy was rushed back into surgery due to infection.

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/10/17/brady_had_2d_surgery/

Brady had 2d surgery
Procedure needed for knee infection

Patriots quarterback Tom Brady underwent a second procedure on his injured left knee Wednesday to clear out an infection, according to a source close to Brady on the West Coast.

Brady had surgery Oct. 6 at the Kerlan-Jobe Orthopaedic Clinic in Los Angeles. Doctors said the procedure went well, but Brady began to feel ill this week because of the infection.

While he has not seen Brady's injury, Dr. Nicholas DiNubile - a knee specialist and spokesman for the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons - said an infection must be aggressively treated and monitored. He noted there are different types of infections, with different degrees of severity, and some are more easily managed than others.

"This can happen to anyone having a surgery, but it's a relatively rare occurrence after knee procedures," DiNubile said. "The earlier you recognize and treat it - that's surgery and antibiotics - the less likely you're going to have problems down the line. The best-case scenario is that they got it early, and if everything goes right, he would be back at the same time as was expected."

Brady's initial surgery came 29 days after he was injured in the Patriots' season opener against the Kansas City Chiefs on a hit by safety Bernard Pollard. Multiple sources told the Globe Brady tore the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments in his knee.

In cases similar to Brady's, doctors often wait for the MCL to heal before reconstructing the ACL, usually a time frame of about 4-6 weeks. So Brady's initial surgery was closer to the early side.

ShutDown24
10-17-2008, 01:16 PM
Seems like it sounds a lot worse than it is?

Here's hoping he's 100% healthy by the opener next year (Though I'm not sure if all of you will share that sentiment)

NJarhead
10-17-2008, 01:22 PM
Seems like it sounds a lot worse than it is?

Here's hoping he's 100% healthy by the opener next year ](Though I'm not sure if all of you will share that sentiment)[/U]

Of course we do.

steelerstrade
10-17-2008, 01:46 PM
Not saying I want ANYONE to get hurt (I don't)...but to me you can't spell Belichick or Kraft without a "K" ... K as in bad Karma!

stlrtruck
10-17-2008, 02:02 PM
Of course we do.

once again, proof we need the sarcasm smiley!!! :wink02:

steelreserve
10-17-2008, 04:13 PM
Here's hoping he's 100% healthy by the opener next year (Though I'm not sure if all of you will share that sentiment)

Hey, speak for yourself. It might be considered unsportsmanlike to cheer for an injury, but I've sure as hell never heard anyone say I can't cheer for an infection.

NJarhead
10-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Hey, speak for yourself. It might be considered unsportsmanlike to cheer for an injury, but I've sure as hell never heard anyone say I can't cheer for an infection.

:toofunny: :rofl:

HometownGal
10-17-2008, 04:30 PM
Well, when you're on your knees worshipping at the Beliprick* altar 24/7, what do ya expect? :noidea::chuckle:

Just knowing who Brady is porkin' these days, he probably has more than a knee infection.

MasterOfPuppets
10-17-2008, 05:23 PM
if you spend as much time on your knees as brady does in public facilities, your bound to get something....:laughing:

tony hipchest
10-17-2008, 07:10 PM
Brady is the George Michaels of the NFL.

WHAM!

NJarhead
10-17-2008, 08:28 PM
Brady is the George Michaels of the NFL.

WHAM!

Then Bilichick is the Boy George...

"Karma, Karma, Karma, Karma, Karma Cameleeeeooooon....":chuckle:

lilyoder6
10-17-2008, 09:00 PM
i wonder y brady took so long to get the surgery done.. right not the day after being on ir... trying to get back to form as soon as possible.. but delaying the surgery for like a month.. just made his comeback 1 moth longer..

Steelman16
10-18-2008, 12:24 AM
Hard to laugh, and harder not to. :chuckle:

Here's to hoping he gets better enough to play so we can kick his butt next year. :thumbsup:

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
10-18-2008, 12:30 AM
i wonder y brady took so long to get the surgery done.. right not the day after being on ir... trying to get back to form as soon as possible.. but delaying the surgery for like a month.. just made his comeback 1 moth longer..

They waited because the swelling in the knee had to go down before doing the surgery.

Karma what a terrible thing to waste.

Galax Steeler
10-18-2008, 07:43 AM
if you spend as much time on your knees as brady does in public facilities, your bound to get something....:laughing:

:toofunny::toofunny:

steveironcity
10-18-2008, 09:05 AM
Of course we do.

I dont

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-18-2008, 09:51 AM
Hey, speak for yourself. It might be considered unsportsmanlike to cheer for an injury, but I've sure as hell never heard anyone say I can't cheer for an infection.


This just in!!!!....

Reports out of Los Angeles suggest that an attorney has been hired to represent the Hospital Infections in a lawsuit against Tom Brady. The Infections claim that at least one camera was used in the course of Tom Brady's surgery which gave Brady an unfair advantage over the Infections in the last couple of weeks.

One bacteria was quoted as saying. "Its almost like they KNEW what we were going to do next".

In a Press release concerning the allegation, Commisioner Goodell said "I have yet to hear from Patriot owner Robert Kraft. When I get permission from him to make a statement and he tells me what position I am to take, we will be happy to let you know where the league stands on this".

www.LLTsarcasm.com

missedgehead
10-20-2008, 02:34 PM
If and WHEN (one day, I am afraid it will, but I hope and pray it NEVER DOES) it happens to Roethlisberger, you all will shut the hell up about Tom Brady. Karma, if you all want to play that card(Brady did not deserve it. That is just STUPID.), has a strange way of coming back and biting you in the you know where, so keep jumping up and down about Tom Brady being hurt.

fansince'76
10-20-2008, 02:39 PM
If and WHEN (one day, I am afraid it will, but I hope and pray it NEVER DOES) it happens to Roethlisberger, you all will shut the hell up about Tom Brady. Karma, if you all want to play that card(Brady did not deserve it. That is just STUPID.), has a strange way of coming back and biting you in the you know where, so keep jumping up and down about Tom Brady being hurt.

Yeah, it already did happen - Ben almost DIED, and there was no shortage of crass jokes about it coming from the asshat fans of other teams. Now why don't you run along to your little Pats* board already? Or are you on the Titans' wagon this week since they're 6-0? :coffee:

SteelMember
10-20-2008, 03:11 PM
If and WHEN (one day, I am afraid it will, but I hope and pray it NEVER DOES) it happens to Roethlisberger, you all will shut the hell up about Tom Brady. Karma, if you all want to play that card(Brady did not deserve it. That is just STUPID.), has a strange way of coming back and biting you in the you know where, so keep jumping up and down about Tom Brady being hurt.

:yap::coffee:

Yeah, it already did happen - Ben almost DIED, and there was no shortage of crass jokes about it coming from the asshat fans of other teams. Now why don't you run along to your little Pats* board already? Or are you on the Titans' wagon this week since they're 6-0? :coffee:

G-men...It's cool to say. Give it a try, Geeee-men. Recent Superbowl winning Geeee-men. :thumbsup:

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-21-2008, 07:42 AM
If and WHEN (one day, I am afraid it will, but I hope and pray it NEVER DOES) it happens to Roethlisberger, you all will shut the hell up about Tom Brady. Karma, if you all want to play that card has a strange way of coming back and biting you in the you know where, so keep jumping up and down about Tom Brady being hurt.

OH ...but you misunderstand us on this point....we all actually agree with you....Karma DOES indeed have a way of coming back and biting one on the "you-know-where.

We all just happen to think that Mayhaps Bradys injury is a direct RESULT of karma.....When one belongs to a team full of cheating pieces of crap....and when one is a condescending egomaniac....Karma can be the greatest bearer of justice known to man.

Glad to see we are on the same side.:thumbsup:

X-Terminator
10-21-2008, 08:14 AM
If and WHEN (one day, I am afraid it will, but I hope and pray it NEVER DOES) it happens to Roethlisberger, you all will shut the hell up about Tom Brady. Karma, if you all want to play that card(Brady did not deserve it. That is just STUPID.), has a strange way of coming back and biting you in the you know where, so keep jumping up and down about Tom Brady being hurt.

Why thank you - I certainly will! :jump:

Someday you will realize that on a STEELERS message board, we do not and will not kiss Marsha's ass, nor will we shed a tear because karma kicked him in his trick knee.

Yeah, it already did happen - Ben almost DIED, and there was no shortage of crass jokes about it coming from the asshat fans of other teams. Now why don't you run along to your little Pats* board already? Or are you on the Titans' wagon this week since they're 6-0? :coffee:

Word.

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
10-21-2008, 04:14 PM
Oh this is not good - more baaaaaaaaaaaaaad Karma

BRADY’S INFECTION COULD HAVE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES
Posted by Mike Florio on October 21, 2008, 10:03 a.m. EDT

In response to recent reports and analysis regarding the infection that developed in the surgically-repaired knee of Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, we’ve gathered from our vast array of sources (i.e., Google) some additional information regarding the potential consequences of Brady’s condition.

Actually, we didn’t rely on Google. That would have actually required affirmative effort on our part. Instead, we were contacted by a league insider who spoon-fed us the information.

As we understand it, infections are uncommon in knee surgery, happening only 0.5 percent of the time. (This year alone, however, Tom Brady, Browns receiver Joe Jurevicius, and Colts quarterback Peyton Manning developed infections after knee operations.)

The mere fact that doctors conducted a second surgery should be regarded in each case as a major cause for concern. Infections are treated initially (and ideally) with antibiotics. If antibiotics don’t do the trick, then surgery becomes necessary.

In the case of an ACL replacement, the presence of an infection can lead to far greater problems. Screws are used to hold down the new ligament in place. If, as Chris Mortensen of ESPN observed on Sunday, the screws become contaminated, they must be replaced.

Then there’s the question of whether the ligament was from a cadaver, or from a donor location in Brady’s body. If the infection was introduced via a cadaver ligament, the ACL will need to be removed and replaced.

And so the biggest unknown for now is whether Brady ultimately will need to have a second ACL replacement surgery. Though Brady sounds optimistic that post-surgical antibiotics will do the trick, it’s likely too early to know for sure whether the new ACL will remain infection-free.

If, in the end, Brady needs yet another ACL, Brady might not play in 2009. And, possibly, 2010.

In this regard, consider the case of John Grant. The 2008 MVP of Major League Lacrosse, Grant underwent an ACL replacement four years ago. In August of this year, Grant developed an infection in his elbow. The infection migrated to the ACL, and doctors had to remove the ACL and the screws that were holding it in place.

“When I had knee surgery in 2004, I received a cadaver’s ACL instead of a part from my own body,” Grant said. “I’m no doctor, but I was told that when the elbow infection spread, it attacked the weakest part of my body — the dead tissue in my knee.”

Due to the infection, Grant will have to wait as little as four months and as long as a year to receive a new ACL. Thereafter, he’ll go through the lengthy rehab period following ACL replacement.

Though Grant’s case represents an extreme outcome, the fact that Brady already has needed surgery to clean out an infection in the vicinity of the new ACL puts him on the slippery slope that could ultimately require a new ACL, if the ongoing efforts to remove the infection from his body aren’t successful.