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Borski
10-22-2008, 05:10 PM
League meets with Steelers to discuss statements

By James Walker
ESPN.com

PITTSBURGH -- The NFL held a private meeting Wednesday with the Pittsburgh Steelers following a series of controversial statements the team made last week.

On the command of commissioner Roger Goodell, the NFL sent Ray Anderson, the league's executive vice president of football operations, to Pittsburgh to meet with "a small group" of Steelers that included team owner Dan Rooney, head coach Mike Tomlin, receiver Hines Ward and safety Troy Polamalu.

"I believe it was a very productive discussion," Anderson said. "You can ask Coach Tomlin and the players themselves. They've certainly indicated to us that, No. 1, they understand, and No. 2, they respect that we took the time to come sit down and engage and talk to them directly."

Tomlin, Ward and Polamalu all questioned the way the league handled fines after Ward was docked $15,000 for two infractions the team felt were unnecessary. Polamalu, who is rarely outspoken, went as far to say the NFL is becoming a "pansy" league.

Goodell is en route to London and talked with Anderson last week specifically about the Steelers and figured a face-to-face meeting with a higher-up from the league office was the best way to clear the air.

"It was nice exchange of frank feelings about where we are, and I think it provides a little closure for us, to be quite honest with you," Tomlin said. "Now we can get back to focusing on what we need to focus on."

Ward was not fined for Sunday's crushing block of Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Keith Rivers. The play broke Rivers' jaw and ended his season. Anderson clarified to the Steelers and the media Wednesday that, under current NFL rules, that play was a legal hit.

A big point of contention with the Steelers last week was neither of Ward's fines was flagged during the game, which Anderson also discussed with the team Wednesday.

"It is not a requirement that, in fact, a flag be thrown before a person can be fined for a foul," said Anderson, who said there were 139 fines distributed so far leading into last week's games. "What we explained to the players is about 40 percent of our fines are assessed against plays that are actually not flagged on the field."

Anderson also mentioned that the NFL is looking into recent comments made by Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs against Ward and Pittsburgh rookie tailback Rashard Mendenhall. Suggs mentioned on a recent radio interview that the team has a "bounty" on those two players.

"That 'bounty' notion is completely against the rules," Anderson said. "To the extent that someone is engaged in that activity, we will look into it and address it. Yes, we've seen the comments and we're trying to determine the completeness of the circumstances."

James Walker covers the NFL for ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3657578

fansince'76
10-22-2008, 05:17 PM
Anderson also mentioned that the NFL is looking into recent comments made by Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs against Ward and Pittsburgh rookie tailback Rashard Mendenhall. Suggs mentioned on a recent radio interview that the team has a "bounty" on those two players.

"That 'bounty' notion is completely against the rules," Anderson said. "To the extent that someone is engaged in that activity, we will look into it and address it. Yes, we've seen the comments and we're trying to determine the completeness of the circumstances."

Like I said in another thread, I won't be holding my breath on that one. :coffee:

I now understand "Goodell's NFL" perfectly - threats of bounties against players and threatening to "kill" other players = "league office will look into it." Rightfully calling the commissioner out over arbitrary and unfair BS fines = a special visit from one of his cronies to tell you to STFU about it. Got it. :coffee:

X-Terminator
10-22-2008, 05:25 PM
"It is not a requirement that, in fact, a flag be thrown before a person can be fined for a foul," said Anderson, who said there were 139 fines distributed so far leading into last week's games. "What we explained to the players is about 40 percent of our fines are assessed against plays that are actually not flagged on the field."

40%? Really? So you mean that 40% of the time, your referees don't feel that what are evidently fineable offenses/hits deserve a flag? Anyone else find that a bit strange? I would have thought the percentage was much lower than that. It's also another indictment of the ineptitude of the officials.

Anderson also mentioned that the NFL is looking into recent comments made by Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs against Ward and Pittsburgh rookie tailback Rashard Mendenhall. Suggs mentioned on a recent radio interview that the team has a "bounty" on those two players.

"That 'bounty' notion is completely against the rules," Anderson said. "To the extent that someone is engaged in that activity, we will look into it and address it. Yes, we've seen the comments and we're trying to determine the completeness of the circumstances."


I see a whole lot of flapping of gums there, Mr. Anderson, but the question is what are you and Roger Good Deal going to do about it? My guess is a slap on the wrist or a stern talking-to...as if that's going to work. :jerkit:

This whole "meeting" just reeks of :bs:

fansince'76
10-22-2008, 05:29 PM
I see a whole lot of flapping of gums there, Mr. Anderson, but the question is what are you and Roger Good Deal going to do about it? My guess is a slap on the wrist or a stern talking-to...as if that's going to work. :jerkit:

I got money that says not another thing is mentioned or done about it by Mr. Anderson or Good Deal in any capacity. If there's one thing Good Deal is good at (about the only thing, really) it's sweeping unsavory business such as this under the rug.

T&B fan
10-22-2008, 05:30 PM
I would hope that someone said something about the Browns talk before that game . hitting Ben late was ok to them .

revefsreleets
10-22-2008, 05:42 PM
Maybe some harsh words after they look into it for the Rats.

Fines and team visits for the Steelers.

Yeah, that seems fair...:banging:

RoethlisBURGHer
10-22-2008, 05:57 PM
And when asked, the Rats are going to deny and actual cash bounty...they're going to say by "bounty" the defense was looking to "hit these players hard, jack them up".

tony hipchest
10-22-2008, 06:00 PM
i just saw on PTI that dan rooney said that goodell should get a contract extension.

and it wasnt followed by one of these- :rolleyes:

#1LambertFan
10-22-2008, 06:06 PM
I would hope that someone said something about the Browns talk before that game . hitting Ben late was ok to them .

I thought I was the only one that noticed. Shaun Rogers hit Ben like 2 seconds after he threw the ball, and it wasn't just a love tap either.

fansince'76
10-22-2008, 06:10 PM
i just saw on PTI that dan rooney said that goodell should get a contract extension.

and it wasnt followed by one of these- :rolleyes:

Ehhh. NFL Commissioner historically has been pretty much a lifetime appointment. Goodell will be the commish until he decides to retire or drops dead, unfortunately.

Borski
10-22-2008, 06:32 PM
Ehhh. NFL Commissioner historically has been pretty much a lifetime appointment. Goodell will be the commish until he decides to retire or drops dead, unfortunately.

Maybe if he screws up enough this season owners will start calling for his impeachment.

Hammer Of The GODS
10-22-2008, 11:47 PM
And here I thought I couldn't hate ray lewis any more than I already did!

I hope he gets arsehole cancer! :mad:

chucoblack&gold
10-23-2008, 12:20 AM
The NFL fined a talented wide receiver who is not afraid to play hard. Yet on the other hand you have a team that issues bounties on opposing players, with bad intentions, and I see no media exposure on this. What gives?:noidea: I have yet to hear the NFL make as big of an issue out of these comments as they did against Ward's playing.

And if my memory serves correct, this isn't the first time that the ratbirds have leaked out a bounty against a STEELER.

Galax Steeler
10-23-2008, 03:30 AM
The only reason they had that meeting was just to try and smooth everyting over and tell them what they wanted to hear we won't see or hear nothing else about it they are full of bull _ _ _ _.

stlrtruck
10-23-2008, 07:39 AM
So let me get this straight:

1) You play hard between the White Lines, within in the rules of the NFL and you get fined

2) Threaten someone's career and physical injury and as to date - nothing?

Oh, Goodell you're really losing it on this one.

GBMelBlount
10-23-2008, 08:10 AM
40%? Really? So you mean that 40% of the time, your referees don't feel that what are evidently fineable offenses/hits deserve a flag? Anyone else find that a bit strange?

I would imagine it is hard for a ref to see and interpret everything that is happening, especially at full speed and in real time.

HometownGal
10-23-2008, 08:15 AM
If it looks like manure and smells like manure, than . . . . . :poop:

Anderson also mentioned that the NFL is looking into recent comments made by Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs against Ward and Pittsburgh rookie tailback Rashard Mendenhall. Suggs mentioned on a recent radio interview that the team has a "bounty" on those two players.

"That 'bounty' notion is completely against the rules," Anderson said. "To the extent that someone is engaged in that activity, we will look into it and address it. Yes, we've seen the comments and we're trying to determine the completeness of the circumstances."


Completeness of the circumstances? Lard ass Suggs made a direct statement on a radio interview that the Rats have a bounty out on Hines and Mendy - how much more"complete" can it be, dumb ass? :banging:

xfl2001fan
10-23-2008, 08:32 AM
To play devil's advocate...

Define Bounty. Did they mean it in a literal sense of the word, or like what the Browns players said about hitting Ben hard?

Unfortunately, it's innocent until proven guilty...which in this case, would likely mean it's too late.

And yes, I do remember the unfined, uncalled personal foul by Shaun Rodgers on Ben. So please, don't blast me because the team I have loved all my life has a player on it got away with something that he shouldn't have.

stlrtruck
10-23-2008, 10:26 AM
To play devil's advocate...

Define Bounty. Did they mean it in a literal sense of the word, or like what the Browns players said about hitting Ben hard?

Unfortunately, it's innocent until proven guilty...which in this case, would likely mean it's too late.

And yes, I do remember the unfined, uncalled personal foul by Shaun Rodgers on Ben. So please, don't blast me because the team I have loved all my life has a player on it got away with something that he shouldn't have.

And yet there has been no fine for either of the things that you mention.

Let me put it another way. If one of your co-workers whom you are in direct competition with says outloud for everyone to hear, "I'm gonna get that SOB" or "First person to take him out gets $1,000" wouldn't your company do something about it?

I know one thing where I work, your butt wouldn't hit the ground for at least 20 yards!

I think it would be funny if Suggs got fined and suspended for the next Steelers game. And if a player goes after Hines illegally, then Suggs gets fined again for having the bounty.

SteelMember
10-23-2008, 03:36 PM
i just saw on PTI that dan rooney said that goodell should get a contract extension.

and it wasnt followed by one of these- :rolleyes:

Didn't goodell come highly recommended by Mr. Rooney? and close friends?

Is it because of this that the league came in to say they didn't want it to look like they were showing any favoritism, so they fined the Steelers for anything questionable. And when the players started calling BS, they said something like...don't worry. It will all even out. Just don't go to the press anymore and make us look like the "bad guys".* :rolleyes:

The horse I've been hitting on about mr. goodcall is getting a little tender in the hind quarters. :mad:

Makaveli
10-23-2008, 08:55 PM
So what if the Rats had a "bounty" out on this guy. Such a bounty is merely all that their players can do upon the field to "shut him down" in light of him telling a fellow rookie that he was going to "have a big game".

Don't talk about it,...be about it cupcake.