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stillers4me
10-24-2008, 06:10 AM
I've cut myself out of the political debates around here, but this was too good not to share. Since the other Obama0/Socialist thread sort of went to hell in a handbag (McMuffin?), I'll post this separately.

It's not a wonder Obama's policies shout socialism.


Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party
Democrat's campaign denied allegations, but new evidence indicates membership

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Posted: October 24, 2008
12:50 am Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily



Excerpt from New Party publication (Courtesy New Zeal blog)
JERUSALEM – Evidence has emerged that Sen. Barack Obama belonged to a socialist political party that sought to elect members to public office with the aim of moving the Democratic Party far leftward to ultimately form a new political party with a socialist agenda.

Several blogs, including Powerline, previously documented that while running for the Illinois state Senate in 1996 as a Democrat, Obama actively sought and received the endorsement of the socialist-oriented New Party, with some blogs claiming Obama was a member of the controversial party.

The New Party, formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America and leaders of an offshoot of the Community Party USA, was an electoral alliance that worked alongside the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. The New Party's aim was to help elect politicians to office who espouse its policies.......................................... ......

...........Obama's campaign has responded to the allegations, denying the presidential candidate was ever a member of the New Party.

But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him....................

..................Obama's campaign has responded to the allegations, denying the presidential candidate was ever a member of the New Party.

But the New Zeal blog dug up print copies of the New Party News, the party's official newspaper, which show Obama posing with New Party leaders, list him as a New Party member and include quotes from him....................
New Ground, the newsletter of Chicago's Democratic Socialists for America, reported in its July/August 1996 edition that Obama attended a New Party membership meeting April 11, 1996, in which he expressed his gratitude for the group's support and "encouraged NPers (New Party members) to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration."

Becoming a New Party member requires some effort on behalf of the politician. Candidates must be approved by the party's political committee and, once approved, must sign a contract mandating they will have a "visible and active relationship" with the party.

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78945
Check out the pictures of the actual newspaper articles from 1996.

People who vote for this guy are blind fools. He has way too many past associations with people that make him extremely untrustworthy.

Have fun twisting this around..............I'm sure CNN, and MSNBC will never report it.

HometownGal
10-24-2008, 09:43 AM
People who vote for this guy are blind fools. He has way too many past associations with people that make him extremely untrustworthy.


This is one of the biggest reasons why I can't even consider voting for him. His associations with unsavory people - even up until he announced his candidacy - throws out a huge red flag.

This country is in for a rude awakening if this guy is elected and those who put him in office will have no one to blame but themselves. :shake02:

Vis
10-24-2008, 10:00 AM
straw, they're grasping at you.

CantStop85
10-24-2008, 10:38 AM
http://rlv.zazzle.com/red_scare_jersey_shirt-p235511393623861139abwi_400.jpg

Godfather
10-24-2008, 10:55 AM
Caveat: Per World Net Daily.

klick81
10-24-2008, 10:59 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2382/1574576278_842b8978b1.jpg?v=0

MACH1
10-24-2008, 12:41 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20010306031216/www.newparty.org/up9610.html

Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).


http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932

Chicago New Party Update

by Bruce Bentley

About 50 activists attended the Chicago New Party membership meeting in July. The purpose of the meeting was to update members on local activities and to hear appeals for NP support from four potential political candidates. The NP is being very active in organization building and politics. There are 300 members in Chicago. In order to build an organizational and financial base the NP is sponsoring house parties. Locally it has been successful both fiscally and in building a grassroots base. Nationwide it has resulted in 1000 people committed to monthly contributions. The NP's political strategy is to support progressive candidates in elections only if they have a concrete chance to "win". This has resulted in a winning ratio of 77 of 110 elections. Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP.

The political entourage included Alderman Michael Chandler, William Delgado, chief of staff for State Rep Miguel del Valle, and spokespersons for State Sen. Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez, chief of staff for State Sen. Jesse Garcia, who is running for State Rep in Garcia's District; and Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. Alice Palmer. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.

Michael Chandler thanked the NP for its support in his electoral victory. His achievements to date included obtaining an increase of 30 police in the 24th Ward, citizen involvement in street clean-up and establishment of a 24th Ward Organization. William Delgado is exploring whether to run for State Rep in the 3rd District. He is a former social worker and spoke with compassion and dynamism. He considers himself a community activist who wants to be an advocate for change in the community. His presence in political office would be a benefit to the democratic left.

Indeed it was an exciting evening because the NP has two crucial components. First, the NP is a true "Rainbow Coalition" consisting of both young and aged African-Americans, Hispanics and Caucasians. Although ACORN and SEIU Local 880 were the harbingers of the NP there was a strong presence of CoC and DSA (15% DSA). Moreover a good 8% were younger Generation X'ers who are critically needed. A more diverse representation of Labor is missing. Secondly, the NP is taking "action." Four political candidates were "there" seeking NP support. The NP is strategically organizing via house parties and tactically entering only elections that they can win. Furthermore they are organizing a campaign on the "Living Wage Ordinance" in the Chicago City Council.

The NP has the following working committees: political, membership/fund-raising, public relations, and legal/finance.


Suck that through your straws. :chuckle:

Must be a duck!

http://jschumacher.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/13/duck.jpg

revefsreleets
10-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Now wait a second. He wasn't a memeber of the Socialist Party, because, even as the article clearly states, he was seeking endorsement under the auspices of the Democratic Party.

Dude was trying to drum up votes...

This is just as bad as Tony bashing Palin over and over and over again for things that just aren't true, or aren't nearly as nefarious as the portrait he likes to paint.

This kind of silliness is why these political discussions get so heated, and otherwise rational people lose their heads.

Leftoverhard
10-24-2008, 02:51 PM
How about people stop using sites like (and especially) worldnetdaily.com as a news source? They have proven themselves to be The National Enquirer of political news.

Rev - I understand what you're saying about these kinds of discussions being silly - I think Tony's most recent Palin post was less him bashing her and more him pointing out the hypocricy of her spending all that RNC money, all the while crying maverick and pork-eater. If it isn't true, then that's another story.

MACH1
10-24-2008, 03:01 PM
Rev - I understand what you're saying about these kinds of discussions being silly - I think Tony's most recent Palin post was less him bashing her and more him pointing out the hypocricy of her spending all that RNC money, all the while crying maverick and pork-eater. If it isn't true, then that's another story.

She didn't spend it, she had no control over what the party bought for her. And she doesn't get to keep it either.

Kinda blows that out of the water.

Leftoverhard
10-24-2008, 04:04 PM
She didn't spend it, she had no control over what the party bought for her. And she doesn't get to keep it either.

Kinda blows that out of the water.

That's what you call blowing something out of the water? Um, it's still in the water and it kind of looks a little like this....:poop:
So, because she didn't actually do the shopping, she didn't buy it? Gift? Ok. But she's Joe-six-pack? Giving it all to charity? I'm sure needy women will be thrilled to wear 3000 dollar political suits to their job interview at McDonalds. :noidea: How does giving it to charity justify the spending? What's next, a diamond necklace that will be donated to charity later. The bottom line is that regular people don't live like that. Isn't that her big sell? Joe-six pack is more like Joe Hilton.

Doesn't it bug you that the highest paid person in her campaign for the first two weeks of October was her stylist?

Updated | 12:20 p.m. Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?

Not Randy Scheunemann, Mr. McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser; not Nicolle Wallace, his senior communications staffer. It was Amy Strozzi, Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday night.

Ms. Strozzi, who was nominated for an Emmy award for her makeup work on the television show “So You Think You Can Dance?”, was paid $22,800 for the first two weeks of October alone, according to the records. The campaign categorized Ms. Strozzi’s payment as “Personnel Svc/Equipment.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/

[/sarcasm]I know, I know, the NYTimes isn't a real news source.[/sarcasm/ But this is being carried by just a few other credible news sources too.

MACH1
10-24-2008, 04:17 PM
:yawn:

Wake me when you find something important :yawn:

revefsreleets
10-24-2008, 06:55 PM
Again, there are some misconceptions and more than a little naivety flying around here. Palin didn't know the wardrobe cost 150k because she didn't buy it, and I'm sure she was probably a little surprised at the cost. Regardless, the clothes will be auctioned off at Christie's and fetch a nice little paycheck for some worthy charity or other.

Obama wears Hartmarx. I have a couple Hart Schaffner Marx suits, and those puppies AIN'T cheap! And mine are off the rack...I'm sure his are bespoken, meaning he could be shelling out several thousand per. Wouldn't it be a little more genuine of him to buy some nice JC Penneys Stafford suits off the rack for $500 per and donate the difference to a local charity that helps people pay their medical bills?

No?

Why not?

Hypocrisy is a two-edged sword....sometimes it cuts back.

tony hipchest
10-24-2008, 08:27 PM
lol.

palin didnt even know those clothes werent hers to keep until this came under media (and GOP donors) scrutiny.

(mccain camp quickly went into damage control)

hell, she dont even know the vice presidents primary function.

theres alot she needs to learn before being on a ticket this big.

one cant just wink their way through washington.

43Hitman
10-24-2008, 10:26 PM
No one said a word about Mrs. Clinton's 6000k pant suits either. How convenient.

HometownGal
10-24-2008, 10:39 PM
theres alot she needs to learn before being on a ticket this big.



I think the same could be said for Senator Do-Nothing.

Vice President < President

one cant just wink their way through washington

One is obviously attempting to bamboozle and bullshit his way into the White House, so what's the difference?

Makaveli
10-24-2008, 11:16 PM
People who vote for this guy are blind fools. He has way too many past associations with people that make him extremely untrustworthy.



Mccain/ Keating ?

GBMelBlount
10-24-2008, 11:24 PM
Mccain/ Keating ?

Do you think that is comparable to the aggregate of long term associations Obama has had with unsavory individuals in his very short political career? I don't.

Makaveli
10-24-2008, 11:28 PM
Do you think that is comparable to the aggregate of long term associations Obama has had with unsavory individuals in his very short political career? I don't.

Do you not see the point Mel?,.....perspective. "People gladly believe anything that they WISH to believe.". And this is most certainly true from ALL.

MACH1
10-25-2008, 01:54 AM
I think the same could be said for Senator Do-Nothing.

Vice President < President



One is obviously attempting to bamboozle and bullshit his way into the White House, so what's the difference?

Just turn on your TV to any channel but Fox. :rolleyes:

revefsreleets
10-25-2008, 05:20 PM
Palin had the clothes for 3 days. That doesn't imply ownership, it infers "borrowing them".

Non-issue blown up by haters...

Hines0wnz
10-26-2008, 12:51 PM
"Obama has associated with people who in their past have, at best, done questionable acts along with questionable judgments and Obama has worked with them in both private and public office."

"So what? Palin is wearing clothes bought for her by the RNC!"

:rofl:

:popcorn: