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BigBen2WardPITT
10-26-2008, 07:14 PM
Looks like we might need a new long snapper, and maybe a Punter. Who do we look to?

Stylez1877
10-26-2008, 07:22 PM
Maybe a new oline while we are at it??

Sorry thought I was in the gameday thread.
Do we have anyone on the practice squad???

The Duke
10-26-2008, 07:25 PM
the preseason long snapper

I always forget his name....

BigBen2WardPITT
10-26-2008, 07:26 PM
Yea any time we get pressure, our oline sucks,but Ben has legs, he needs to start getting out of the pocket and making some smart plays (not like the last drive when he just threw to his first receiver).

anyways... i dont know if we have anyone on the practice squad. Does anyone else?

Steel_Bus_24
10-26-2008, 07:41 PM
seriously we don't have anyone else to freaking long snap???


what a weird and crappy way to go down

and damm just when I thought we came of our funk on O we completely erase all gains. Ben looked lost for the majority of the game

We have quickly fallen into some serious shit with these injuries.

kmsteelerwr15
10-26-2008, 07:53 PM
i dont know about a LS but i have a feeling Gardocki is coming back to Pittsburgh

ShutDown24
10-26-2008, 07:58 PM
Paul Edinger? Or was it Mike? Not the kicker, the punter - lol, that's who we had in pre-season and who I'd look for the Steelers to bring in.

No idea about LS.

steelpinstripe72
10-26-2008, 08:12 PM
*cough*BenWoods*cough*

steelpride12
10-26-2008, 08:15 PM
Wow tough call, not big on LS in the league, guess we will see who the Steelers dig up.

jjpro11
10-26-2008, 08:35 PM
has any team ever lost 2 punters, a long snapper, and have their kicker dinged up all in the same season? and before the half way point at that?

fansince'76
10-26-2008, 08:38 PM
has any team ever lost 2 punters, a long snapper, and have their kicker dinged up all in the same season? and before the half way point at that?

If it's ever happened before, I sure don't remember it or know about it. This sucks.

Rhee Rhee
10-26-2008, 08:50 PM
o boy. you would think the finding a LS in FA is like finding a book in Borders.. i hope they bring in a few for tryouts ASAP

lilyoder6
10-26-2008, 10:19 PM
y not just get one of those lb's to do it... so we can save a roster spot..lol

Glace
10-26-2008, 10:35 PM
Gotta admit I was surprised to see Harrison in there as the long snapper. I don't really get that move.

You're telling me Hartwig, being a center, has never done any longsnapping?


And Berger...I appreciate you playing through the pain man. You were still booming them even though you were having trouble walking around. The punt that you initially hurt yourself...you pinned them at the friggin 2 yard line. I didn't know what to think of you when Sep went down, but you earned my respect tonight.

KeiselPower99
10-26-2008, 10:40 PM
Actually Harrison did long snap for the Rhein Fire of NFL Europe back when he was over there. As for punter Ben Graham ex Jet is available. Maybe bring up Legursky and let him try to be the LS since they did have him try that out in the spring.

dunkuntou
10-26-2008, 10:56 PM
Actually Harrison did long snap for the Rhein Fire of NFL Europe back when he was over there. As for punter Ben Graham ex Jet is available. Maybe bring up Legursky and let him try to be the LS since they did have him try that out in the spring.

Letting Legursky trying long snapping is a very, very bad idea. You can't just take a lineman and expect that he is going to be able to do this job. Why do you think James Harrison was the long snapper and not someone like Darnell Stapleton.

I would expect them to sign Jared Retkofsky. He is the guy that has been with us in previous camps.

As for punters, someone mentioned Ben Graham, he is punting for the Saints. Maybe a Mike Barr sighting

KeiselPower99
10-26-2008, 10:59 PM
Wasnt sure if Graham had been picked up. Thanks for clarifying that.

dunkuntou
10-26-2008, 11:02 PM
Wasnt sure if Graham had been picked up. Thanks for clarifying that.

No problem...a guy to keep an eye on is Steve Weatherford who is a pretty good punter. KC claimed him when the Saints signed Graham. The Chiefs punter Dustin Colquitt has an injury

fordfan485
10-26-2008, 11:37 PM
So who is our emergency punter if Berger has to come out of a game? I know Ben was a part-time punter in college and I think he has 1 or 2 NFL punts. Does Reed punt at all?

XxKnightxX
10-26-2008, 11:56 PM
yeah well have ben in a shotgun formation pooch kicking all the time haha. hey its like the wildcat formation either we go for it or just pooch the kick.

MasterOfPuppets
10-27-2008, 12:01 AM
anyone else take notice of hardwigs shotgun snaps? i think he thought he WAS long snapping.i seen several of em , where ben was catching em at head level.

fordfan485
10-27-2008, 12:17 AM
anyone else take notice of hardwigs shotgun snaps? i think he thought he WAS long snapping.i seen several of em , where ben was catching em at head level.

That is also my guess why they didn't have him long snapping, probably would have had the same results as Harrison sending it over Bergers head. Another argument for having Harrison over Hartwig is he is faster for covering a punt return.

jjpro11
10-27-2008, 01:23 AM
ben would still end up getting sacked if he dropped back to punt. :toofunny:

steelerstrade
10-27-2008, 11:12 AM
I would think the Steelers would sign BOTH positions but only look at the punter short term (if he does well they may throw Berger on IR, but I think they have been happy with him thus far)...Give Berger 1, maybe 2 weeks to get better.

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 11:41 AM
Getting a serviceable punter is no problem, but finding a decent long snapper can be tough.

Nothing like getting down to a game winning FG try and having a bad snap.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 11:48 AM
Letting Legursky trying long snapping is a very, very bad idea. You can't just take a lineman and expect that he is going to be able to do this job.

“Right now, they are looking at me more as a guard and back-up center,” Legursky told Anthony Hanshew of The (Huntington) Herald-Dispatch. “I’m going to be working hard to earn the respect of the veterans and coaches and find my way to the top.” Legursky has been working out at the HIT Center in Huntington, and back in early March had a long-snapping clinic with former Marshall, Philadelphia Eagles and All-Pro long snapper Mike Bartrum. Legursky hoped long snapping, which he picked up rapidly, will enhance his chances of making the team.

http://marshall.scout.com/2/750840.html

Dizzle43
10-27-2008, 12:05 PM
I'm pretty sure we will need a LS for long-term. That did not look good for Warren when he was walking off the field. I really hope we can find someone to do the job. It is an important position. We know Reed is money but he can't kick the game winning FG if we can't snap the ball to the holder.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 12:12 PM
I'm pretty sure we will need a LS for long-term. That did not look good for Warren when he was walking off the field. I really hope we can find someone to do the job. It is an important position. We know Reed is money but he can't kick the game winning FG if we can't snap the ball to the holder.

Another article about legursky being able to long-snap.....

.........Now Legursky can add another talent to his repertoire. (Long-snapping)

As part of his workouts prior to Marshall’s pro day in March, Legursky worked with former Herd star Mike Bartrum.

The now retired Philadelphia Eagles long snapper helped Legursky learn the craft over the winter.[/B
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“He has been such a big help to me, answering questions I have had about this and that and helping me understand what to expect whenever I get onto a team,” Legursky said.

[B]The long snapping has gone well and makes Legursky all the more versatile.

“For somebody who has never done that before, it’s a hard task,” Legursky said. “It’s not easy.

“It’s something that adds some versatility. If two guys have the same ability, and one can long snap and the other can’t, they are going to take the guy who can first.”

http://www.register-herald.com/sports/local_story_116234404.html

fansince'76
10-27-2008, 12:13 PM
Can Kuhn long snap? I'll bet he can. :chuckle:

DACEB
10-27-2008, 12:19 PM
Another article about legursky being able to long-snap.....

I agree LLT, Legursky would be the first guy to look at. He's on the practice squad, correct?

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 12:22 PM
I agree LLT, Legursky would be the first guy to look at. He's on the practice squad, correct?

Yes he is.....also did a quick search for Retkofsky, and see that he is not currently signed to any team...but as you said...if you have one on the practice squad...why look elsewhere?

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-27-2008, 12:32 PM
I agree LLT, Legursky would be the first guy to look at. He's on the practice squad, correct?

A guy on the practice squad that just learned to long snap this spring would probably be the easiest guy to look at.

On the other hand, there are dozens of guys that have long snapped in college, the NFL, NFL Europe, CFL with more experience that I would rather see.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 12:45 PM
A guy on the practice squad that just learned to long snap this spring would probably be the easiest guy to look at.

On the other hand, there are dozens of guys that have long snapped in college, the NFL, NFL Europe, CFL with more experience that I would rather see.

Hence the reference to Retkofsky....Legursky will be looked at first...then they will look elsewhere if it looks like he cant handle it.

DACEB
10-27-2008, 02:05 PM
I don't dissagree that Retkofsky would be the straightforward LS choice. I like Legursky because, like LLT, I believe he will be an assett on the O-line in the future and provides depth at center with Stapleton playing well at RG.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-27-2008, 02:26 PM
I don't dissagree that Retkofsky would be the straightforward LS choice. I like Legursky because, like LLT, I believe he will be an assett on the O-line in the future and provides depth at center with Stapleton playing well at RG.

Hadnt thought about how Stapleton being moved to guard might effect the decision....good insight!!!

KeiselPower99
10-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Thats why I brought Dougs name up. Plus if we need an experianced vet then look up Mike Barturm. He lives 30 minutes from me and just retired from the Eagles.

KeiselPower99
10-27-2008, 02:37 PM
Ok I should have read the 3rd page before posting that last reply

stlrtruck
10-27-2008, 04:21 PM
Can Kuhn long snap? I'll bet he can. :chuckle:

Not only can he long snap but he's so good that he'll be able to long snap it, run back and catch the snap and punt it two inches from the goal line - regardless of position on the field.

dunkuntou
10-27-2008, 08:04 PM
Honestly, you have no idea how difficult long snapping can be.

I think its a horrid idea to say that Doug Legursky would be a good option. I would much rather give him game time action in the preseason rather than in Week 9 of a season in which we are 5-2.

Sign someone who has actually done it in a game and has a legitmate chance to make good snaps.

My concern would be him botching a key snap late in a game because he has never long snapped in a game EVER.

Everyone wants to believe Doug Legursky is a great asset for this team which he may be in the future...but not right now. He can't help this team on the O-Line for this season, even with how bad they have been.

If he is such a good lineman why did we essentially release him twice and NO ONE else pick him up? I really want to get an experience long snapper....trust me its better than any experiment

Aussie_steeler
10-28-2008, 06:25 AM
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_595489.html

Steelers begin search for long snapperThe Steelers will work out four players today at their practice facility as they try to fill the void they have at long snapper.

Greg Warren went down with a season-ending knee injury in the Steelers' 21-14 loss Sunday to the New York Giants. Warren, who has been the Steelers' long snapper since 2005, had surgery Monday.

Those vying to replace him are Jared Retkofsky, Tim Lindsey, Derek Rackley and Boone Stutz.
Rackley, who played in the NFL from 2000-07, is the most experienced of the group; the Steelers have the most familiarity with Retkofsky. He signed with the Steelers as an undrafted free agent in 2007 and spent parts of the last two training camps with the team.

Kicker Jeff Reed said Retkofsky impressed him in the short stints he had with the Steelers.

"I know what he can do," Reed said. "I think it's an open competition and whoever snaps the best will get it, but if Jared has a good workout, he'll be here."



I did a little research and found a few interesting facts.

Rackley has experience with the Falcons and Seahawks.
Lindsey has experience with the Falcons and Seahawks
Stutz has experience with the Falcons and Seahawks
Retkofsky has experience with the Steelers and Seahawks

I am guessing that when you urgently need a LS there cant be too many around to chose from. All have some experience so any would have to be a better option than Legursky IMO. Legursky may develop as a guard or center but please go with a specialist Long snapper.